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Brock and Cody welcome Jeff Row (@jeffrey.row) to the podcast. Jeff has taken and helped many others take some huge bucks from all over the greater Southwest. He brings a wealth of knowledge to the podcast and shares some great stories from the hunt and from the dirt track.Take a listen and get ready to after it! #playingthegame - Show Notes: 00:00 - 05:55: Walk up songs and wakeboarding 05:56 - 08:22: Introducing Jeff Row! 08:23 - 12:51: Trail cameras are donezo in AZ 12:52 - 18:24: Jeff’s introduction into hunting with his dad 18:25 - 23:55: Baseball players as athletes 23:56 - 29:32: ‘The Gram’ doesn’t do the grind justice 29:33 - 35:31: Look out for shoot planes 35:32 - 41:02: Shoes on or off? 41:03 - 48:26: Cliff rose: mule deers’ jam 48:27 - 57:53: The big 200 takedown 57:54 - 73:40: Racing dirt bikes on the Baja!

Welcome back to the show! The boys sit down with Mark Fillback from the Fillback Family of Auto Dealerships to discuss business, life, and of course, hunting. Straight out of the great state of Wisconsin, Mark brings a unique perspective on business and life with his down home roots. The Fillback Family of Auto Dealerships is in its third generation, and much of its current success is due to Mark. Lots of nuggets in this one, so sit back and study as Mark shares his story and how he keeps #playingthegame. - 00:00 - 10:36: Introducing Mark Fillback and Arizona travels: hikes, baseball, and rodeos 10:37 - 15:22: Fillback Family of Dealerships: First, Second, and Third Generations 15:23 - 20:48: Nuts and bolts of the auto dealership business 20:49 - 25:15: Keeping the store staffed with excellent customer service 25:16 - 29:08: From farm and factory to the sales floor 29:09 - 34:54: Youth coaching: put your money where your mouth is 34:55 - 39:38: Keeping confidence while also living in reality 39:39 - 44:54: Big city, big dreams, and everything in between 44:55 - 48:26: Arizona is great for training baseball and flying 48:27 - 53:14: Big city vs Small town living 53:15 - 58:11: Bonding through Diet Coke and hunting 58:12 - 61:45: Hollywood shenanigans 61:46 - 66:49: Let’s talk more about Diet Coke and caffeine 66:50 - 69:12: TAC: A great time requiring great effort 69:13 - 73:19: Arizona hunting units break down 73:20 - 76:54: Till next time….

Mike Schneider is back! The boys sit down with Mike and catch up on his world of brand development and taking companies to the next level. Brock, Cody, and Mike discuss the attributes of what it means to be a great teammate and how difficult that can be. Mike Schneider embodies these attributes, and it shows in how sought after he is by some of the best companies within the outdoor recreation industry. Sit back and listen as these overachievers share their hard earned stories from business, family, and sports. #playingthegame - Show Notes 00:00 - 06:46: Lost car keys and salvage titles 06:47 - 09:26: Catching up with Mike Schneider and brand development 09:27 - 13:49: Black Diamond, Coros, and going all day and all night 13:50 - 16:10: Sharpen the saws and refresh, or you’ll break 16:11 - 18:22: Being satisfied and when you’re an idea factory 18:23 - 21:08 Creativity and getting things done when you’re an original 21:09 - 23:34: Weird times mean opportunities for the brave and dedicated 23:35 - 26:35: Cody’s got almost 60 teams! 26:36 - 28:56: You need to have thick skin in the alpha environment 28:57 - 31:44: Punching and picking fights 31:45 - 37:32: Being a good teammate is hard 37:33 - 41:45: Do the right thing and be a good teammate. There’s more at stake than just you 41:46 - 44:49: Leaders do whatever it takes and leading by example 44:50 - 51:50: Cardiff Snowcraft: Product with a Purpose 51:51 - 53:55: VRBO for boats?? 53:56 - 56:42: Hiking the Grand Canyon: Rim-to-Rim

The boys have the great privilege of sitting down with Lonnie Workman of PSE Archery. Lonnie is a bowhunter’s bowhunter and is a great example of following your passion. After a successful career in banking, Lonnie pivoted to his true love, archery and bowhunting. Lonnie worked his way up to the C-Suite at PSE, and according to bowhunting legend, Pete Shepley, “The work ethic, positive attitude, and active leadership of Lonnie Workman… will help take both PSE and the archery industry into a brighter future.” Pete’s words ring true throughout this conversation. Enjoy the listen and keep #playingthegame. - 00:00 - 06:12: Introducing Lonnie Workman of PSE! 06:13 - 09:33: Playing all the sports and the pitfall of sports specialization 09:34 - 12:01: From the backwoods of West Virginia to urban/suburban Florida 12:02 - 12:57: College in Florida/New York and back to West Virginia 12:58 - 18:46: Banking track to Political Consulting and back to banking 18:47 - 23:10: California and sand dunes with motocross bikes 23:11 - 29:14: Banking to the outdoor industry 29:15 - 34:46: Confidence to be the best but humble enough to study and learn 34:47 - 41:41: In Sales and Service, have your phone ready at all times 41:42 - 45:31: Speaking of GOATS… John Dudley 45:32 - 52:11: Teachability is a key prerequisite for archery and bowhunting 52:12 - 58:57: Recruiting John Dudley 58:58 - 64:29: California to Tucson and taking PSE to the next level 65:30 - 68:16: PSE presents the top bow in each price point. 68:17 - 75:32: Carbon all the way, every day all day 75:33 - 80:26: The C-Suite protects the bottomline and the people within the Organization 80:27 - 86:14: Humility of Ladies vs Ego of Males 86:15 - 92:40: Elk hunt in Colorado

Blayne Andersen Part 2: The boys welcome back Blayne Andersen to the podcast. Blayne runs and guns with the best of them. He’s a serial entrepreneur with a unique perspective as a CERTIFIED FINANCIAL PLANNER™. Brock and Cody sit down with Blayne to discuss business philosophy as well gain insight into these current up-and-down capital markets. These tumultuous times demand a clear and rational voice, and Blayne provides the historical context to help us navigate what lies ahead as we keep #playingthegame. - Show Notes: 00:00 - 05:17: The necessity for alternative voices. 05:18 - 08:33: Control what you can control. 08:34 - 18:59: Mentoring not only kids but parents in youth sports. 19:00 - 24:03: Never taking no for an answer. There will always be resistance. 24:04 - 30:54: Pleasing everybody vs Your way or the highway 30:55 - 35:44: Partners and the merit of a trial period. 35:45 - 40:27: COVID: turning a catastrophe into an opportunity 40:28 - 43:54: Cars to trailers and being willing to change. 43:55 - 47:01: Shoes: Be careful who you surround yourself with 47:02 - 58:45: Meeting Michael Jordan and other GOATs 58:46 - 61:17: Creating value and try to make yourself so valuable that it’s impossible for you to go. 61:18 - 71:43: Financial markets: Time in the market beats timing the market every time 71:44 - 78:37: Buy high and sell low: 90% of investors 78:38 - 83:24: Sound financial principles and practices breed success 84:25 - 89:43: Law of Abundance and being charitable equally important for financial success 89:44 - 100:40: What are the true indicators of success? Education - it depends

Brock and Cody are back! Life keeps moving and changing for the boys. After 20 plus years in pro baseball, Cody takes a leave of absence to focus on certain priorities and new opportunities ahead. Family, business, and of course the great outdoors keep these guys in the hunt and always #playingthegame. - 00:00 - 06:32: Cody’s big transition: Leaving Pro Ball. 06:33 - 12:16: Cody’s plans for the future. Family, baseball, and hunting. 12:17 - 17:13: Luck of the buck is always on its side…. Until it’s not. 17:14 - 19:59: Keeping options open, but family is first. 20:00 - 23:33: Playing the long game with customers and employees. 23:34 - 27:12: Being a good teammate even when you’re on your way out. 27:13 - 33:47: I’m 0 for 20. I’m due. 33:48 - 36:10: Don’t live in the past. It’s about improvement. 36:11 - 45:48: Joseph and the Coat of Many Colors: Ain’t no free lunch. 45:49 - 53:12: Importance of accountants and the nuts and bolts of businesses. 53:13 - 61:17: Mutual expectations = mutual understanding. 61:18 - 64:32: All that glitters isn’t gold. 64:33 - 67:12: Instagram: good and bad. Use it as a tool. 67:12 - 73:17: Investing in the future: stocks, real estate, and podcasts.

Nature wins. Always. The preparation and training is what sets apart the good hunters from the great hunters. Brock and Cody in this episode get you prepped and trained for this upcoming hunting season by discussing fitness, shooting, and packing gear. This episode will get your heart pumping as we lean into the Fall and get to chasing big animals. #keepplayingthegame - Show Notes: 00:00 - 05:02: Catching up and sitting water 05:03 - 11:09: What’s in the pack and training to carry that weight 11:10 - 17:40: The pack is different depending on the hunt and fitness requirements are different as well. 17:41 - 22:01: Strength vs Size, Power vs Hypertrophy 22:02 - 27:58: Fatigue makes cowards of us all 27:59 - 35:44: You won’t be able to out hunt your equipment or your fitness 35:45 - 40:22: Shooting prep 40:23 - 47:17: The devil is in the details. Packing and prepping. 47:18 - 58:35: Gear reviews, camo patterns, etc. 58:36 - 67:02: Nature wins. Always.

The only thing better than hunting is the memory of hunting. Troy Smith of @authentictaxidermy creates a tangible artifact of people’s hunting experiences through his taxidermy business. Based out of Arizona, @authentictaxidermy has a national reputation for creating the best mounts in the industry. Troy is a great example of going against the grain, following your passion, and creating a lifestyle and livelihood that everyone should aspire to. Troy is the perfect guest to get you pumped for this upcoming Fall hunting season. #playingthegame - Timecode: 00:00 - 19:47: Introducing Troy Smith and the story behind Brock’s 387 bull elk. 19:48 - 23:28: Complacency kills. Evolving in business. 23:29 - 28:54: The art of taxidermy 28:55 - 32:44: Damn the torpedoes, let’s go to taxidermy school. 32:45 - 37:56: The Troy Smith taxidermy journey. 37:57 - 45:06: Taxidermy creates opportunities for you to be around interesting, like-minded people. 45:07 - 48:28: Hustling with two jobs and then going taxidermy full time. 48:29 - 54:15: Commerce contributes. Everyone has a taxidermy story. 54:16 - 63:38: Tanning is more than meets the eye and other nuances in taxidermy. 63:39 - 69:24: The story behind Troy’s most recent mount, a mountain lion. 69:25 - 73:10: Always be game, Brock’s buffalo. 73:11 - 78:26: Taxidermy humor, neighboring an animal clinic. 78:27 - 82:46: Inside baseball: Arizona hunting and the strip 82:47 - 88:20: Hunting withTaryn and hunting storytelling - Troy's Links: Instagram Profile: @authentictaxidermy Website: https://authentictaxidermyaz.com/

Our favorite Redneck Tech geek is back! @copecreative is here, ladies and gentleman, but there’s nothing geeky about Caleb Copeland. He’s your consummate gitrdone-good ol’ boy but with the smarts and savvy of a tech entrepreneur/businessman. The boys sit down with Caleb to discuss baseball, business, and bows. Sit back and listen as the boys tell stories, reminisce, and discuss their future endeavors (hunts of course!) #playingthegame - Show Notes Timecode: 00:00 - 03:33: Catching up and discussing the Rocky Mountains 03:34 - 08:46: Weather, rain, and horn growth 08:47 - 20:34: What’s cheating in baseball? 20:35 - 24:01: Randy Johnson/pidgeon/Cody Ransom story 24:02 - 26:49: Baseball’s greatest gift: the gift of failure 26:50 - 33:34: Weather across the country. Pick your poison. 33:35 - 38:25: Snoring roommates 38:26 - 45:12: Ryer, the leprechaun bike story 45:13 - 52:01: Caleb’s Genesis story 52:02 - 57:52: How the sausage is made 57:53 - 64:47: Emailing Jeff Foxworthy and snowballing from there 64:48 - 69:59: Once kids arrive get ready for time to fly 70:00 - 78:33: Letting kids fail but protecting them 79:34 - 85:12: Retaining and incentivising high performing employees 85:13 - 93:29: Influencer pay 93:30 - 97:40: Crossbow glory

Here’s Jonny! Jonny Gomes is back with a bow and a brand new project. www.signingdaysports.com takes the baseball recruiting world virtual with a goal of empowering kids and colleges to find one another and creating more student athlete opportunities in the game of baseball. Brock and Cody sit down with Jonny to discuss this new project as well as Jonny’s new hobby, archery, along with the need for a new game: Big League Grocery Shopping. Keep #playingthegame. - Show Notes Timecode: 00:00 - 08:22: Welcoming back Jonny Gomes and a good ol’ Kill Cliff 08:23 - 14:01: Archery and new hobbies 14:02 - 20:30: Beginning bowhunting frustrations and flying squirrels 20:31 - 25:02: Kids doing kid things, great learning situations 25:03 - 27:16: Jonny’s bow is meant for hunting hippos 27:17 - 31:42: Virtual reality and ninjas 31:43 - 37:01: Creating real life baseball experiences in the grocery aisle 37:02 - 39:12: Rugby: football without pads 39:13 - 40:51: Best professional sports position is…. Starting MLB pitcher 40:52 - 44:52: Big RW project in the works! 44:53 - 52:47: Modern kids sports and the benefits of a great coach 52:48 - 59:31: Baseball, recruiters, and Jonny’s new project: www.signingdaysports.com 59:32 - 68:44: Getting kids scholarships 68:45 - 70:12: Your first virtual baseball card 70:13 - 73:29: It all comes back to Kill Cliff 73:30 - 76:15: Big League Grocery Shopping 76:16 - 80:09: Getting Jonny shooting straight

This week’s guest reverses roles, takes the headphones off, and puts a microphone in front of his face. We’re pumped to welcome Ryer Porter (@ryer_porter), field producer, designer, podcast producer, and social media manager for @copecreative and @playingthegamepodcast to the show. Ryer breaks down tracking sasquatch and what it’s like to document some of people’s most profound memories. “The Leprechaun '' is a skilled artist but most importantly epitomizes a good dude and is great company for any hunt or adventure. You’ll learn a lot but laugh harder in this one #playingthegame - Show Notes: 00:00 - 06:25: Introducing Ryer Porter, international man of mystery 06:26 - 10:04: Meeting Brock and hunts 10:05 - 23:32: Carrying a camera and looking for sasquatch 23:33 - 25:46: Who’d win in arm wrestling match, Cody or Barry Bonds 25:47 - 46:55: Meeting Brock in Colorado and the life of an adventure videographer 46:56 - 51:37: Dune trips 51:38 - 56:06: Deep sea fishing and sea sickness 56:07 - 60:03: Getting the calorie count right 60:04 - 71:37: Is that Lance Armstrong or Ryer Porter? 71:38 - 75:52: Kids parties and racing bikes 72:53 - 77:13: Ryer Porter II, when is the next episode? 77:14 - 82:07: Future hunts with Cody and Cope Creative 82:08 - 86:33: Working with content creators on hunts 86:34 - 98:15: Talking content on the dunes and making memories -

This week’s guest special guest is Greg Krogh. Greg is the owner/operator of Mogollon Rim Outfitters, and he and his outfitters have won the hard-earned reputation as some of the best outfitters in the country. He has forgotten more about hunting and shooting than most of us will ever learn in our lifetimes. The only thing that comes close to matching Greg’s hunting skill is his story telling ability. So sit back, laugh, and learn from Greg and the boys. #playingthegame - Show Notes: 00:00 - 06:31: Introducing Greg Krogh, owner/operator Mogollon Rim Outfitters 06:32 - 10:04: Greg’s start in the guiding game 10:05 - 19:46: Shooting school and shooting kit 19:47 - 26:30: Long range shooting and hunting ethics 26:31 - 31:21: A professional hunting guide uses a hunting guide 31:22 - 46:55: Big Buck story 46:56 - 57:07: Dear measurement matrix and personal measurements 57:08 - 59:19: How to age a deer 59:20 - 67:58: Hunting crowds and cameras 67:59 - 72:01: Cameras and hunting ethics 72:02 - 76:41: Pain and sacrifice to get your trophy 76:42 - 81:22: Closing thoughts 86:10 - 93:33: John’s upcoming hunts 93:34 - 100:47: Desert big game 100:48 - 106:19: In sickness and in health, hunting with your significant other - Contact Greg: Instagram: @greg_Krogh Website: http://www.mogollonrimoutfitters.com - Guest Bio: Owner/Operator of Mogollon Rim Outfitters since 1985 Specializing in Mule Deer and Elk in both Arizona and Nevada