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2020/09/04
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2026/09/25
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71 min.
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24 days

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Jerry and Stably engage in a fortnightly conversation about a book they have recently read.

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Buddha's Little Finger by Victor Pelevin
2026/09/25
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed Buddha's Little Finger by Victor Pelevin. The hosts explored this postmodern Russian novel that weaves together multiple narrative threads across different time periods and realities. The protagonist Pyotr Void exists simultaneously as a patient in a 1990s Russian mental hospital and as a commissar to Bolshevik commander Chapayev in 1919. Through encounters with fellow patients whose delusions form separate vignettes—including a man believing he is a Mexican telenovela actress romantically involved with Arnold Schwarzenegger, and a drunk Russian intellectual inducted into a Japanese samurai clan—Pelevin constructs sophisticated commentary on post-Soviet Russian identity. Jerry and Stably discussed the novel's Buddhist philosophy, particularly how it functions as a Zen teaching device through paradox and riddle-like dialogue, depicting Pyotr's journey toward enlightenment and the realization of non-self. The translation was praised for its quality, and the hosts noted how Pelevin uses the patient hallucinations as political metaphors representing Russia's conflicting fantasies of merger with the West and East.
Ethics: Inventing Right and Wrong by J.L. Mackie
2026/09/10
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed Ethics: Inventing Right and Wrong by J.L. Mackie, a dense, academic defense of moral error theory: the claim that no objective morality exists. They walked through Mackie's argument from relativity (moral codes vary across cultures) and his "argument from queerness" (an objective morality would have to be an inexplicably motivating fact unlike anything else we recognize as real), and his conclusion that this needn't lead to nihilism, since morality functions as an evolved, practically useful system for cooperation given humans' limited sympathy and scarce resources. They connected this to evolutionary psychology, discussed how rapid technological change (AI, simulated realities, warfare) could strain inherited moral intuitions, and debated whether openly admitting morality's non-objectivity destabilizes social cohesion. Despite finding the prose difficult, both recommended the book, particularly for readers already sympathetic to skepticism about objective morality.
The Great Leveler by Walter Scheidel
2026/08/11
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed The Great Leveler: Violence and the History of Inequality from the Stone Age to the Twenty-First Century by Walter Scheidel. The hosts examined Scheidel's thesis that historically, reductions in economic inequality have only occurred through four violent mechanisms: mass-mobilization warfare, transformative revolution, state collapse, and pandemic. They praised the book's meticulous, well-documented scholarship while noting its dense, repetitive style, and debated whether relative inequality (Scheidel's focus) matters as much as absolute living standards, using the Russian Revolution as a case study of leveling accompanied by catastrophic loss of wealth. They also discussed why humans psychologically fixate on inequality and whether today's disparities are comparable to historical ones. Both agreed the book rewards patience but isn't a breezy read, recommending readers focus on the introduction and conclusion if pressed for time.
The God Test by Robert Wright
2026/07/16
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed The God Test: Artificial Intelligence and Our Coming Cosmic Reckoning by Robert Wright. The book's first half explains AI's rise and risks; the second argues, via Teilhard de Chardin-style "complexification," that evolution is driving Earth toward a unified planetary consciousness, or "noosphere," with AI as the catalyst. Wright frames this as requiring expanded cognitive empathy and coordinated global governance to avoid catastrophe. Jerry and Stably examined the book's undercurrents of Buddhism, nonzero-sum game theory, and cosmic purpose, questioned whether Wright's proposed top-down steering contradicts his own bottom-up instincts, and debated whether moral progress or natural selection will ultimately determine humanity's fate. They also touched on Thomas Metzinger's theory of consciousness as a useful counterpoint.
Addiction by Design by Natasha Dow Schull
2026/07/02
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed Addiction by Design: Machine Gambling in Las Vegas by Natasha Dow Schüll. The academic ethnography examines how slot machines—once a marginal casino afterthought—now generate most gambling revenue, driven largely by local repeat players rather than tourists. Schüll interviews designers, executives, and addicted gamblers, showing how machines are engineered to induce a self-erasing "zone" akin to flow states, prioritizing extended play over winning. Jerry and Stably debate her capitalism-focused framing, question whether her extreme case studies represent typical gamblers, and connect the addictive "zone" to evolutionary mismatch theory and Schopenhauer's concept of denying the Will. They also touch on Nevada's pre-1969 ownership rules that once limited corporate casino ownership. Despite its dry, jargon-heavy academic style, both hosts found it compelling and recommend it.
The Special One by Diego Torres
2026/06/16
This episode covers The Special One: The Secret World of Jose Mourinho by Diego Torres, Jerry's pick timed to Mourinho's appointment as Real Madrid manager. Jerry and Stably discuss the book's chronicle of Mourinho's tumultuous 2010-2013 Madrid tenure, focusing on his combative management style: cultivating an atmosphere of fear and favoritism, sidelining players unrepresented by super-agent Jorge Mendes, and blaming referees for losses. They examine his fraught relationship with president Florentino Perez, the locker-room fractures between Portuguese and Spanish players, and his eventual exit following a player revolt. Both note the book's one-sided framing and oddly literal English translation, while drawing comparisons to authoritarian leadership styles. They recommend it for soccer fans despite its insider assumptions.
Homo Ludens by Johan Huizinga
2026/06/02
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed Homo Ludens: A Study of the Play-Element in Culture by Johan Huizinga. They examined the central thesis that play forms the foundation of human culture and critiqued the author for utilizing vague definitions and romanticizing historical conflict.
Ride the Tiger by Julius Evola
2026/04/20
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed Ride the Tiger, a survival manual for the aristocrats of the soul by Julius Evola. The discussion centered on Evola’s core thesis that the modern world is in terminal decline, having fallen from a traditional, hierarchical society where people found inherent meaning through natural aristocracy. The hosts explained that this decline has left people feeling a lack of meaning, which they attempt to fill through materialism, viewing both capitalism and communism as different expressions of the same materialistic impulse. Evola's prescription, the titular "Ride the Tiger," is an acknowledgment that the forces of decadence are overwhelming and cannot be stopped; therefore, the "differentiated man" must embrace the flow of modernity as a path toward transcendence, prepared to jump off and restart the cycle when the world exhausts itself. Jerry noted that the book functions more as a "permission structure" for individuals feeling alienated from the world rather than a literal manual, giving them authorization to be themselves and aim for transcendence. Both hosts acknowledged Evola's background as an actual fascist and Mussolini supporter, but pointed out that the book promotes a stance of apolitia, urging the differentiated man to be detached from all political, moral, and religious identification, as their will is their own morality. While Jerry agreed with the diagnosis of modernity's inability to provide meaning, he criticized Evola's superior, elitist tone and the book's focus on aristocracy, contrasting it with the compassionate ethics of other philosophical traditions. The hosts distinguished the modern issue of lacking meaning from the question of historical happiness, arguing that past societies may have had a clearer sense of meaning despite pervasive physical suffering. The conversation detailed Evola’s philosophical critiques of his contemporaries, particularly Nietzsche and the existentialists. Evola respected Nietzsche but saw his philosophy as ultimately materialist, relying on a faith-based ideal of the Superman that Evola compared to Marxist aspirations for a "new model man". Against the existentialist claim that "existence precedes essence," Evola countered that essence, derived from the metaphysical Will, precedes existence, viewing the individual as an instantiation of this universal force. Evola also analyzed certain modern practices that a differentiated man could use for transcendence—what he called "residues of tradition"—such as asceticism, warrior ethics, and even drugs (if used to awaken the mind rather than as an anesthetic against meaninglessness). However, Jerry strongly disagreed with Evola's specific condemnation of "Negro jazz," arguing that its improvisational nature and capacity to create a trance-like state aligns perfectly with Evola's own goal of "lucid inebriation" as a transcendent experience. The episode concluded with Stan announcing the next book pick, Homo Ludens, a study of the play element in culture by Johan Huizinga.
Leap of Faith by Michael J. Mazarr
2026/03/24
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed Leap of Faith by Michael J. Mazarr. Mazarr, a RAND Corporation scholar, draws on every available memoir, declassified document, and interviews with senior administration officials to dissect how the United States stumbled into the Iraq War. His central argument is that there was never really a decision — the invasion happened through a process of drift, assumption, and institutional momentum, with no memo ever formally ordering it. Jerry and Stably walked through Mazarr's typology of the principals — Bush and Wolfowitz as values-driven, Cheney and Rumsfeld as power-oriented unilateralists, and Powell and Rice as multilateralists — and how their clashing psychologies at every turn undermined coherent planning. They discussed how the easy initial victory in Afghanistan gave the administration a dangerously false sense of what a small-footprint war could accomplish, Saddam's catastrophic misreading of American intentions, and the near-total absence of any post-invasion plan. The conversation turned to the eerie parallels with the current situation in Iran, and whether the lessons Mazarr draws — about American missionary zeal and intuitive, values-driven foreign policy judgment — are simply baked in.
The Digital Reversal by Andrey Mir
2026/03/10
In this episode Jerry and Stably discussed Andrey Mir’s The Digital Reversal, which explores the concept of reversal, arguing that media, when pushed to extremes, reverse their cultural effects due to accelerating technological change. They discussed debated the book's support for technological determinism, which posits that the trajectory of AI and technology is unstoppable and will lead to an inevitable loss of human agency. This surrender of agency is driven by the relentless pursuit of optimization—exemplified by AI making coaching decisions in sports and the shift from structured knowledge to a searchable "goo"—suggesting that most people will voluntarily "plug in" to fully automated, performant systems, with only a few non-maximizing groups remaining.
On Photography by Susan Sontag
2026/02/25
In this episode Jerry and Stablydiscussed Susan Sontag’s On Photography, with both finding the book overly long, baroque, and pedantic, though both agreed that Sontag's observations were interesting when extracted from the dense, "show-offy" prose. Jerry and Stably critiqued Sontag’s positions on photography as a predatory act, its role in tourism and status, and its potential for desensitization, with Jerry challenging Sontag's political framing and insistence on classifying art. The discussion included Stably suggesting Sontag's critique was politically motivated, while Jerry  prioritized free speech regarding photography in public.
On the Suffering of the World by Arthur Schopenhauer
2026/01/27
In this episode, Jerry and Stably discussed Arthur Schopenhauer's On the Suffering of the World. Jerry praised the book as a great introduction to Schopenhauer's philosophy and its insights, particularly the concept of life as a balance between suffering and boredom, while Stan  found the text repetitive and at times impenetrable, disagreeing with the author’s premise. They also explored Schopenhauer’s core ideas, including the "Will" as an eternal, irrational force and the philosopher’s suggested solution of denying the Will through asceticism or art, and they further debated the ethics of procreation and the necessity of preserving consciousness. Stan  then selected "On Photography" by Susan Sontag as the next reading material for discussion.
The Return of the Common Good by Stefan Borg
2025/12/30
In this episode, Jerry and Stably discussed Stefan Borg's book, The Return of the Common Good: The Post-Liberal Project Left and Right, with Stably finding it enjoyable but wanting more and Jerry viewing it as a concise outline confirming prior beliefs, while both criticized its dense, academic style. A major talking point was the assertion that post-liberals offer a "fantastic critique" of liberalism's self-undermining nature but are "incredibly light on prescription," with participants exploring alternative post-liberal approaches like Michael Lind’s and the intellectual genealogy rooted in "radical orthodoxy." The conversation covered various facets of the post-liberal critique, including its US and UK contexts, its distinction from National Conservatism (NatCon), its theoretical core identifying liberalism as an ideology rooted in fear and violence, and its analysis of liberalism's internal contradictions, which erode social trust and necessitate state enforcement of radical individual freedom, alongside a critique of post-liberal feminism.
The Human Stain by Philip Roth
2025/12/08
In this episode, Jerry and Stably discuss Philip Roth's The Human Stain, focusing on the character Coleman Silk, a disgraced college professor whose downfall began after a misconstrued comment with a big secret. They analyzed the book's themes of radical individualism, societal judgment, and the complexities of Silk's relationships.
Days of Rage by Bryan Burrough
2025/11/06
In this episode, Jerry and Stably discuss Bryan Burrough's book, Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence, focusing on the complexity, motivations, and incompetence of 1970s radical groups like the Weather Underground, BLA, SLA, and FALN.

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3.8 out of 5
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Elephantslikemee 2025/03/10
They’re sorta jerks
Honestly, I tried listening to a few episodes but the guys came off as really judgmental and condescending. They definitely put their own political be...
★☆☆☆☆
BleepBloop333 2024/08/14
Why would you listen to this
Incredibly mid and add no substance to these books. You can listen to a real professor speak beautifully on YouTube or other podcasts. Don’t waste you...
★★★★★
tiny_pineapples 2023/07/29
One of my favorites
This podcast has grown on me over time, to the point that it is now one of just a few podcasts I look forward to hearing the most. Jerry and Stably ha...
★★★★★
Tmmmmmmmmy 2022/11/09
Great podcast
To fall asleep to
★★★★★
ChunkyLover__53 2022/11/07
WAP is a national treasure
Stably is the prophet of our age. Jerry is a bit sus tho.
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