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Honoring Your Own Inner Celebrity  In this episode Kellee and Abby explore “celebrity therapists.” They talk through how the field looks to these therapists, but in doing this may miss other gifted healers who don’t have the same status. They draw parallels between the cultural of our field and religion and get curious about the messages of “good therapist,” and “bad therapist.” Abby and Kellee encourage listeners to embrace their own unique healing abilities.   Topics Touched on: Predatory Education: https://sarahpeyton.com Eternal Song Documentary: https://theeternalsong.org Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Kellee and Abby dive into the problems with CEU’s across the field as a whole in this episode, but move specifically to discuss the Association of Play Therapy’s (APT) 12-hour in-person CEU requirement. Abby and Kellee express their opinion around the incongruence of APT’s DEI statement and their in-person CEU requirement. They go on further to explore the field’s origins of white supremacy, ableism, and problematic Western measures of learning, and the need for more expansive ways to deepen our work as therapists. They emphasize the need for consultation and mentoring above webinars. Kellee and Abby hold many privileges, some of which include being two abled bodied pregnant women with the financial means to travel for CEU’s.  Topics Touched on: EMDRIA- https://www.emdria.org/ APT- https://www.a4pt.org/default.aspx   Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee talk through basics of looking for, applying for, and interviewing for your internship placement. They discuss the use of AI, and ways to use it appropriately in this process.  Topics Touched on: Rupi Kaur     Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee explore how grief often accompanies goodbyes, and that goodbyes can also hold happiness and hope. They notice how endings and goodbyes can feel different for each therapist and each therapist/client dyad. They reflect on their own relationship with goodbyes in an out of the therapy space.   Topics Touched on: Circle of Security- https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com Padraig O Tuama Maya Ward Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee recorded on 1/31/25 and began exploring how to hold space for marginalized clients who are impacted by executive orders and fear of or actual detainments of themselves and loved ones.    Topics Touched on: Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition: https://coloradoimmigrant.org/ Decolonizing Therapy (Jaiya john): https://www.decolonizingtherapy.com Iain McGilchrist: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300245929/the-master-and-his-emissary/ Enough About You- Titus Kaphar: https://www.kapharstudio.com Masharll Lyles: https://www.marshalllyles.com Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com/   Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee jump into a new season with the new year. They explore the ebbs and flows of their rhythms over the last 5 years of recordings, and how they have shifted as healers. Abby and Kellee highlight the importance of slowing down, community, intentionality, and how “being with” is truly enough for our clients healing.  Topics Touched on: Rebodying the Self of the Healer - REGISTER NOW: https://www.marshalllyles.com Maggie Smith’s poem- How Dark the Beginning: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/152103/how-dark-the-beginning Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee explore superiority, humility, arrogance, and how they show up for therapists. They give examples of how they have and do fall down this slippery slope (even while they record this episode) Abby and Kellee discuss the therapists’ parts of self that can show up in sessions where we may believe we are better and/or able to influence the outcomes for clients resulting in lack of true presence. How do we set this part aside to be fully curious?   Topics Touched on: Adrienne Maree Brown: https://adriennemareebrown.net/blog/ On Being with Krista Tippett: https://onbeing.org/programs/dacher-keltner-the-thrilling-new-science-of-awe/ Dr. Meldoy Brown: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/melody-m-brown-denver-co/774548 Bittersweet by Susan Cain: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/bittersweet_susan-cain/29217911/item/53180813/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=high_vol_frontlist_standard_shopping_customer_acquisition&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=689361939032&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADwY45goxXpmMinAST89X0a2cqzqd&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8uqo---KigMVnEH_AR3riAElEAQYAiABEgL49fD_BwE#idiq=53180813&edition=60291104 The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino: https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954           Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee start to explore the word accountability and sift through their intention for the episode. They come to name self-reflection and community. Abby and Kellee talk authenticity and explore internalizing nurture from those in their community; which supports them in bringing this into the therapy space. They ask listeners to identify who they can be their truest self with; to practice authenticity and gain internalized nurturing that allows them to show up congruently with clients.   Topics Touched on:  The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954 Daria - Accountability Mapping - https://accountabilitymapping.com/ Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Kellee and Abby revisit the concept of 'process over content' in therapy, and explore what is bringing them Joy over the last few years since beginning the podcast. They dive into what may be leading therapists into content therapy versus process therapy, and encourage therapists to lean into what makes them feel alive and joyful.  Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee are back after some big technological struggles. They welcome the community back in and explore the theme of, withholding. They explore withholding EMDR from clients and withholding the truth from clients. Are therapists withholding for a true clinical reason or out of fear? Abby and Kellee ask therapists to ask themselves, “Why might I not be leaning into something that is right here in the room where someone’s nervous system might really benefit from me leaning in?”  Topics Touched on:  Annie Monaco- https://www.anniemonaco.com EMDR- https://www.emdria.org/ Cole Arthur Riley: https://colearthurriley.com/writing/project-one-64g3t  Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee get brave and venture into a topic that doesn’t seem openly talked about, feeling attraction to our clients. They share their own experience of this happening, normalize this experience, and explore the neuroscience that is happening when attraction happens.  Topics Touched on: Bonnie Badenoch:  https://www.nurturingtheheart.com The Whole Therapist Consultation Group: $50 per group. Capped at 8 participants each month.      Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Abby and Kellee use this episode to talk through some recent experiences that required Bravery in their own lives and how we relate to Risk both personally and professionally. They explore noticing how 'being brave' and 'taking risks'  show up in relationship in the therapy setting, and share some poetry with listeners.They ask listeners to get curious about their own relationship to Risk and how this influences their ways of being as a therapist and a human.   Topics Touched on: Marshall Lyles: www.marshalllyles.com Louise Erdrich: Advice to Myself  The Whole Therapist Consultation Group: Our second open monthly IPNB-inspired group starts 4/25 from 8am-10am MST at $50 per group. Capped at 8 participants each month.  Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected] Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Kellee and Abby are back from their holiday break! Join them for the Season 5 in another conversation, all about looooooove 💗. Their exploration is prompted by the question, “do we love our clients?” and, "must we?" Kellee and Abby muse about what it means to love, draw from some of Dr. Allan Schore's research, name the importance of therapist's doing their own parts work, and end with questions for listeners as they continue to do their own wondering.  Topics Touched on: Dr. Allan Schore: https://www.allanschore.com/books/right-brain-psychotherapy/   Robyn Gobbel: https://robyngobbel.com/   Bonnie Badenoch:  https://www.nurturingtheheart.com Wonder With Monthly Consultation Group: email us at [email protected] to be added to our waitlist!  Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

Kellee is going on maternity leave! This episode explores the ways in which therapists who experience pregnancy can be impacted and transformed as practitioners and humans. Abby and Kellee explore their own personal experience with pregnancy in the field, how they navigate boundaries, and conversations around client care as it relates to self-disclosure in this tender time period. They normalize how nuanced this topic and experience can be and emphasize how necessary it is to 'be so human' with our clients.    Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com  Email us: [email protected] Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]

This episode explores all the ways in which we therapists don’t take the time off we need while encouraging our clients to take time off for self-care. Abby and Kellee explore their own personal struggles with taking time off, including the messages and narratives they tell themselves about when and how much time off they should take. They normalize how guilt can show up around this subject and emphasize how necessary and worthy we are of taking time for ourselves.      Follow us: https://www.instagram.com/the_whole_therapist/ https://www.facebook.com/TWTPodcasters/ Visit our website: https://wholetherapistinstitute.com Email us: [email protected]