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82 episodes
Language
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Abby & KelleeExplicit
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Date created
2020/09/06
Latest episode
2026/10/06
Average duration
21 min.
Release period
63 days
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Leaving the theorizing out and exploring this strange phenomenon of being a human and a therapist. Abby and Kellee explore the embodied experience of neuroscience and authenticity in the therapy room.
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Building Safety by Trying Again
2026/10/06
Abby and Kellee explore how integration takes time. They relate this back to therapists often feeling guilt or shame when they don’t get a moment in a session just right, a rupture occurs, or a task needed to be done that did not get completed. They provide language example therapists or supervisors can use when needing to “try again.”
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Therapists' Scope of Practice
2026/09/01
Abby and Kellee explore what "Scope of Practice," means, and how it shifts throughout a therapists' career. They come to this topic using an attachment lens as they explore fears that come up for therapists when trying new approaches or working with new populations.
Topics touched on:
Circle of Security: https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com/login/?mepr-unauth-page=1994&redirect_to=%2Fmembers%2Fmy-profile%2F
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Navigating Healthy Interdependence with Clients
2026/06/10
Abby and Kellee spend time exploring inner stories they might hold around clients not wanting to see another therapist or explicitly saying they “need you.” They move into describing the somatic feelings and wonder out loud how listeners navigate these dynamics internally or externally.
Topics Touched on:
Holding the Split: Attachment, Divorce, and Self of the Therapist: www.abbyesquivel.com
Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com
Oak Tree excerpt: https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/the-lost-spells_jackie-morris_robert-macfarlane/25347706/item/88496965/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=pmax_high_vol_scarce_%2410_%2450_17400876848&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=17400878123&gbraid=0AAAAADwY45hgnbhFEljQq9r4Cn6-CTDGU&gclid=Cj0KCQjwlqTRBhCBARIsANrkrxjhaqXJZD4XPwnJu_-Whm5vZZpRHFSfIfW66MUIq86lzmyJsLRNwZ4aAoA8EALw_wcB#idiq=88496965&edition=27078928
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Honoring the Shifts in Your Practice
2026/06/03
Abby and Kellee kick off a new season of The Whole Therapist. Both are returning from maternity leave and are making shifts in their practice. They use this episode to encourage listeners to think through when and how they decide to make shifts in their own practice. Honoring the need for a shift is highlighted.
Topics Touched on:
Holding the Split: Attachment, Divorce, and Self of the Therapist:
www.abbyesquivel.com
Rebodying the Self of the Healer:
https://www.marshalllyles.com/event-details/rebodying-the-self-of-the-healer-9-month-program
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Honoring Your Own Inner Celebrity
2025/11/18
Honoring Your Own Inner Celebrity
In this episode Kellee and Abby explore “celebrity therapists.” They talk through how the field looks to these therapists, but in doing this may miss other gifted healers who don’t have the same status. They draw parallels between the cultural of our field and religion and get curious about the messages of “good therapist,” and “bad therapist.” Abby and Kellee encourage listeners to embrace their own unique healing abilities.
Topics Touched on:
Predatory Education: https://sarahpeyton.com
Eternal Song Documentary: https://theeternalsong.org
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The Problem with CE's: A Critical Look at Continuing Ed in the Field
2025/07/10
Kellee and Abby dive into the problems with CEU’s across the field as a whole in this episode, but move specifically to discuss the Association of Play Therapy’s (APT) 12-hour in-person CEU requirement. Abby and Kellee express their opinion around the incongruence of APT’s DEI statement and their in-person CEU requirement. They go on further to explore the field’s origins of white supremacy, ableism, and problematic Western measures of learning, and the need for more expansive ways to deepen our work as therapists. They emphasize the need for consultation and mentoring above webinars. Kellee and Abby hold many privileges, some of which include being two abled bodied pregnant women with the financial means to travel for CEU’s.
Topics Touched on:
EMDRIA- https://www.emdria.org/
APT- https://www.a4pt.org/default.aspx
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Applying for an Internship
2025/06/24
Abby and Kellee talk through basics of looking for, applying for, and interviewing for your internship placement. They discuss the use of AI, and ways to use it appropriately in this process.
Topics Touched on:
Rupi Kaur
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Therapists' Relationship with Goodbyes
2025/05/13
Abby and Kellee explore how grief often accompanies goodbyes, and that goodbyes can also hold happiness and hope. They notice how endings and goodbyes can feel different for each therapist and each therapist/client dyad. They reflect on their own relationship with goodbyes in an out of the therapy space.
Topics Touched on:
Circle of Security- https://www.circleofsecurityinternational.com
Padraig O Tuama
Maya Ward
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Holding Space for Marginalized Clients
2025/02/04
Abby and Kellee recorded on 1/31/25 and began exploring how to hold space for marginalized clients who are impacted by executive orders and fear of or actual detainments of themselves and loved ones.
Topics Touched on:
Colorado Immigrant Rights Coalition: https://coloradoimmigrant.org/
Decolonizing Therapy (Jaiya john): https://www.decolonizingtherapy.com
Iain McGilchrist: https://yalebooks.yale.edu/book/9780300245929/the-master-and-his-emissary/
Enough About You- Titus Kaphar: https://www.kapharstudio.com
Masharll Lyles: https://www.marshalllyles.com
Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com/
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New Year, New Healer?
2025/01/15
Abby and Kellee jump into a new season with the new year. They explore the ebbs and flows of their rhythms over the last 5 years of recordings, and how they have shifted as healers. Abby and Kellee highlight the importance of slowing down, community, intentionality, and how “being with” is truly enough for our clients healing.
Topics Touched on:
Rebodying the Self of the Healer - REGISTER NOW: https://www.marshalllyles.com
Maggie Smith’s poem- How Dark the Beginning: https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poetrymagazine/poems/152103/how-dark-the-beginning
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Humility, Arrogance, and Therapists Oh My!
2024/12/03
Abby and Kellee explore superiority, humility, arrogance, and how they show up for therapists. They give examples of how they have and do fall down this slippery slope (even while they record this episode) Abby and Kellee discuss the therapists’ parts of self that can show up in sessions where we may believe we are better and/or able to influence the outcomes for clients resulting in lack of true presence. How do we set this part aside to be fully curious?
Topics Touched on:
Adrienne Maree Brown:
https://adriennemareebrown.net/blog/
On Being with Krista Tippett:
https://onbeing.org/programs/dacher-keltner-the-thrilling-new-science-of-awe/
Dr. Meldoy Brown:
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/therapists/melody-m-brown-denver-co/774548
Bittersweet by Susan Cain:
https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/bittersweet_susan-cain/29217911/item/53180813/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=high_vol_frontlist_standard_shopping_customer_acquisition&utm_adgroup=&utm_term=&utm_content=689361939032&gad_source=1&gbraid=0AAAAADwY45goxXpmMinAST89X0a2cqzqd&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI8uqo---KigMVnEH_AR3riAElEAQYAiABEgL49fD_BwE#idiq=53180813&edition=60291104
The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino:
https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954
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Giving Clients Congruence with Our Internalized Community
2024/11/05
Abby and Kellee start to explore the word accountability and sift through their intention for the episode. They come to name self-reflection and community. Abby and Kellee talk authenticity and explore internalizing nurture from those in their community; which supports them in bringing this into the therapy space. They ask listeners to identify who they can be their truest self with; to practice authenticity and gain internalized nurturing that allows them to show up congruently with clients.
Topics Touched on:
The Development of a Therapist. Healing Others. Healing Self: Louis Cozolino
https://www.amazon.com/Development-Therapist-Healing-Others-Self/dp/0393713954
Daria - Accountability Mapping - https://accountabilitymapping.com/
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Moving Away from 'Topic of The Week' Therapy
2024/09/17
Kellee and Abby revisit the concept of 'process over content' in therapy, and explore what is bringing them Joy over the last few years since beginning the podcast. They dive into what may be leading therapists into content therapy versus process therapy, and encourage therapists to lean into what makes them feel alive and joyful.
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Withholding: Are You Colluding with Avoidance?
2024/08/13
Abby and Kellee are back after some big technological struggles. They welcome the community back in and explore the theme of, withholding. They explore withholding EMDR from clients and withholding the truth from clients. Are therapists withholding for a true clinical reason or out of fear? Abby and Kellee ask therapists to ask themselves, “Why might I not be leaning into something that is right here in the room where someone’s nervous system might really benefit from me leaning in?”
Topics Touched on:
Annie Monaco- https://www.anniemonaco.com
EMDR- https://www.emdria.org/
Cole Arthur Riley: https://colearthurriley.com/writing/project-one-64g3t
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Exploring Attraction to Our Clients
2024/05/07
Abby and Kellee get brave and venture into a topic that doesn’t seem openly talked about, feeling attraction to our clients. They share their own experience of this happening, normalize this experience, and explore the neuroscience that is happening when attraction happens.
Topics Touched on:
Bonnie Badenoch: https://www.nurturingtheheart.com
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Working Chic 2024/07/12
Great Podcast!
I really appreciate that Abby and Kellee talk candidly about the real-life challenges we face as clinicians. The episodes remind me of my conversation...
Hi I'm Mari 2023/06/03
Thumbs Up from a Non-Therapist!
I don’t work in therapy, but I enjoy learning new things. The range of topics has been good for reflecting on my own experiences in therapy and surpri...
Hillary in Louisville 2023/05/03
Warning
Do not listen if you have misophonia/can’t stand ASMR. One of the hosts is especially terrible. I brought this to their attention long ago, but they r...
jlolsen23 2022/06/14
Grounding and Validating
As an attachment therapist, it can be hard to stay grounded in what we know when there is often pressure to learn the new cutting edge techniques. Thi...
ebmontgomery 2022/06/14
Such a gem!
I stumbled upon this podcast and have loved every episode. Abby and Kelly have such a kind way of supporting therapists and are generous with their wi...
mlaLCSW 2022/06/13
So encouraging!
As a newer therapist, I have accessed lots of resources to help me learn and grow. This podcast has been so encouraging! Abby and Kellee speak to the ...
Jenniferrr_Annn 2022/06/13
Amazing
The transparency and vulnerability is really helpful as a newer therapist. Thank you!!
@thetreehuggertherapist 2022/06/13
Best Podcast
Seriously this podcast is so Great I have shared it with so many Therapist at my work. This podcast has made me feel like a better therapist with norm...
Byovb17 2022/06/13
Super helpful!
I’ve listed to this podcast since Day 1 and have loved every episode! They weave their lived experience, relevant topics, interesting ideas from books...
ewalt16 2021/09/15
Excellent
Started feeling a bit stuck in sessions lately and this podcast validated every emotion I've been experiencing. It felt like warm hug and just what I...
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