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It starts with a map. Then it’s the buildings. Then it’s the windows. And at a certain point, it stops being about what’s true—and starts being about what feels like it could be. This episode is more about how a conspiracy theory becomes a thing. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://www.davidrumsey.com/https://www.loc.gov/collections/general-maps/https://www.raremaps.com/ https://www.bl.uk/collection-guides/maps https://www.britannica.com/place/Tartaryhttps://www.britannica.com/topic/Tatar https://www.nps.gov/subjects/architecture/neoclassical.htm https://www.britannica.com/art/Beaux-Arts-architecture https://www.chicagoarchitecture.org/2016/10/31/raising-chicago/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seattle_Undergroundhttps://undergroundtour.com/about/history.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_Bay,_Boston https://www.boston.gov/departments/archaeology/history-back-bay https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lower_Manhattan https://www.nyc.gov/site/lpc/designations/historic-districts.page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_geology https://www.chicagohistory.org/research/worlds-columbian-exposition/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_forthttps://www.britannica.com/technology/fortification https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/americanexperience/features/orphan-trains/ https://www.history.com/news/orphan-trains-child-migration https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mud_flood_conspiracy_theory https://www.reddit.com/r/Tartaria/https://www.reddit.com/r/AlternativeHistory/ All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Arlis Perry went for a late-night walk on Stanford’s campus and ended up inside a place that should have been safe. What was discovered the next morning would haunt investigators—and remain unsolved—for over four decades. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Arlis_Perry https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/29/us/arlis-perry-murder-stanford.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-stanford-church-murder-solved-20180629-story.html https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Stanford-church-murder-of-Arlis-Perry-solved-13032118.php https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/06/28/sheriff-to-announce-break-in-1974-stanford-church-murder-case/ https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/cold-case-arlis-perry-stanford-church-murder/199211/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/arlis-perry-murder-stanford-church-cold-case-solved-stephen-crawford/ https://abc7news.com/arlis-perry-murder-stanford-memorial-church-cold-case/3692844/ https://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/arlis-perry-stanford-memorial-church-murder-13032037.php https://people.com/crime/arlis-perry-stanford-church-murder-solved/ https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/arlis-perry-cold-case-solved-after-44-years/ https://www.santaclaracounty.gov/newsroom/Pages/06-28-18A.aspx https://law.stanford.edu/2018/07/02/the-murder-of-arlis-perry-and-the-lessons-of-cold-case-justice/ https://www.paloaltoonline.com/news/2018/06/29/after-44-years-suspect-identified-in-stanford-church-killing https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2018/06/29/dna-evidence-solves-44-year-old-murder-of-woman-found-in-stanford-church/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/dna-evidence-solves-1974-murder-arlis-perry-stanford-church-n887716 https://www.sccgov.org/sites/sheriff/Pages/arlis-perry.aspx All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Toby Dorr was a rule follower. Until she met a man who made her change her ways. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/10/toby-dorrs-great-escape/615487/ https://www.businessinsider.com/federal-prison-program-director-fell-in-love-inmate-broke-out-2022-9 https://www.wbir.com/article/news/crime/a-trip-to-remember-woman-reflects-on-huge-2006-police-chase-to-knoxville-after-breaking-man-out-of-prison/51-eecc36bd-acf3-4509-994e-3808ef361492 https://www.oxygen.com/crime-time/toby-dorr-toby-young-who-helped-inmate-john-maynard-escape-max-prison-in-dog-crate-tells-story https://www.corrections1.com/escapes/inmate-who-escaped-from-kan-prison-in-dog-crate-dies-while-incarcerated https://www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/37838227/prison-escape-volunteer-fell-inmate-dog-crate/\ https://www.kshb.com/news/crime/john-manard-notorious-kansas-prison-escapee-died-sunday-in-arizona-prison  All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Imagine being so convinced a lost city exists… that you walk straight into the Amazon to prove it. That’s exactly what Percy Fawcett did—and no one ever saw him again. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_Fawcetthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_City_of_Zhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuscript_512 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-lost-city-of-z-15468171/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/percy-fawcett-lost-city-of-z-amazon https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-35956514 https://www.history.com/news/percy-fawcett-lost-city-of-z-amazon https://www.historyextra.com/period/20th-century/percy-fawcett-lost-city-z-amazon-explorer-disappearance/ https://www.ancient-origins.net/history-famous-people/percy-fawcett-0011373 https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/what-happened-to-percy-fawcett https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/14/movies/the-lost-city-of-z-review.html https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lost-cities-of-the-amazon-discovered-from-the-air/ https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/amazon-civilizations-discovered-lidar https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/amazon-didnt-used-be-wilderness-we-thought-it-was-180973033/ https://www.livescience.com/amazon-civilization-lidar-discovery.html https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-45466768 https://www.britannica.com/biography/Percy-Fawcett https://www.rgs.org/about-us/our-history/percy-fawcett/ https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/3398625-the-lost-city-of-z All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

On New Year’s Eve 1997, Ben Smart and Olivia Hope boarded a yacht in New Zealand’s Marlborough Sounds after missing their ride back to shore. By morning, they had vanished—launching one of the country’s most debated murder cases. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Sources:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murders_of_Ben_Smart_and_Olivia_Hope https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/ben-smart-and-olivia-hope-timeline-of-events/ https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/ben-smart-and-olivia-hope-case https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/ben-smart-and-olivia-hope-case https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/crime/scott-watson-parole-hearing-decision/https://www.paroleboard.govt.nz/decisions https://www.courtsofnz.govt.nz/cases/r-v-watson https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/107745722/scott-watson-appeal-bid https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/451385/scott-watson-supporters-seek-royal-commission https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/gerald-mcneilly-testimony-scott-watson-trial/ https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/ben-smart-olivia-hope-trial-jailhouse-informanthttps://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/scott-watson-denies-confession-to-inmate/ All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dorothy Kilgallen was an American journalist and TV personality who was investigating the assassination of JFK when she reportedly died of an accidental drug overdose.  Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast   Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dorothy_Kilgallen https://www.britannica.com/biography/Dorothy-Kilgallen https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/ https://www.archives.gov/research/jfk/warren-commission-report/appendix5.html https://time.com/archive/6813826/reporters-50000-word-leak/ https://allthatsinteresting.com/dorothy-kilgallen https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination_conspiracy_theories https://youtu.be/VYDaqto22NY?si=-ynfi0nYb0M6NCv4 All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1969, University of Michigan law student Jane Mixer was found murdered in a cemetery in Denton Township after responding to a ride-share ad home for spring break.  Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast   Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jane_Mixer https://caselaw.findlaw.com/mi-court-of-appeals/1364596.html https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2005/04/gary_brown_convicted_in_1969.html https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2004/10/man_charged_in_1969_sl.html https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2010/03/gary_brown_appeal_denied_in_1969_jane_mixer_case.html https://law.justia.com/cases/michigan/court-of-appeals-unpublished/2007/20070426-c267822-59-267822-opn.html https://www.newspapers.com/clip/35629649/jane-mixer-case-dna/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michigan_Murdershttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Norman_Collinshttps://murderpedia.org/male.C/c/collins-john-norman.htm https://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/2009/07/40_years_later_the_michigan_murders.html All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

**This was originally published on the Patreon in March 2024** Have you heard of Lavinia Fisher, America’s first female serial killer? Maybe we need to pay a little more attention to her story before we start throwing titles around. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast   Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources: https://allthatsinteresting.com/lavinia-fisher https://murderpedia.org/female.F/f/fisher-lavinia.htm#google_vignette https://chstoday.6amcity.com/lavinia-fisher-charleston-sc All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Twenty-four-year-old Rebecca Coriam was a crew member aboard the Disney cruise ship Disney Wonder when she vanished in 2011 while the ship was sailing off the coast of Mexico. Despite surveillance footage showing her shortly before she disappeared, no clear explanation for what happened has ever been confirmed. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/jul/23/rebecca-coriam-disney-cruise-mystery https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-20905530 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/mar/21/rebecca-coriam-disney-wonder-cruise-ship-disappearance https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/family-fight-find-truth-rebecca-11007098 https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/8937027.rebecca-coriam-missing-cruise-worker-cover-up-claims/ https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/four-years-after-disney-crew-member-vanished-sea-her-family-n333251 https://jonronson.com/articles/lost-at-sea/ https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/rebecca-coriam-disney-cruise-ship-2522768 All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 1983, former beauty queen Tammy Lynn Leppert vanished after expressing intense fear that someone was trying to kill her. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Sources:   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tammy_Lynn_Leppert https://charleyproject.org/case/tammy-lynn-leppert https://www.namus.gov/MissingPersons/Case#/1106 https://www.allthatsinteresting.com/tammy-lynn-leppert https://unsolvedmysteries.fandom.com/wiki/Tammy_Lynn_Leppert https://www.doenetwork.org/cases/168dffl.html https://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/os-xpm-1988-07-07-0050160207-story.html https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/fl-xpm-1993-07-04-9301240316-story.html https://www.newspapers.com/article/florida-today-tammy-lynn-leppert-disappea/ https://www.fbi.gov/wanted/kidnap/tammy-lynn-leppert All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

What happens when a political leader refuses to die? From radical science to public devotion, this episode examines the preservation of Vladimir Lenin’s body and the unsettling legacy it created. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast   Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-42172445 https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20160930-the-scientists-who-keep-lenin-looking-like-lenin https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/the-strange-afterlife-of-vladimir-lenin-180962326/ https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/lenin-mausoleum https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/lenin-embalming/ https://www.rbth.com/history/327915-how-lenin-body-preserved https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/lenin-dieshttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Vladimir-Lenin https://www.britannica.com/topic/Lenin-Mausoleum https://www.jstor.org/stable/10.2307/261013 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-47008675 https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/mausoleum-of-mao-zedong https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40683967https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/ho-chi-minh-mausoleumhttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Mao-Zedonghttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Ho-Chi-Minhhttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Joseph-Stalin https://www.catholic.com/tract/incorruptibleshttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Saint-Bernadette-of-Lourdes All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on F acebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 19th century Scotland, Glasgow socialite Madeleine Smith was accused of poisoning and subsequently murdering her secret French lover in case that gained notoriety around the world. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Sources:   https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/66006113 https://www.scottishlegal.com/articles/our-legal-heritage-new-forensic-science-podcast-puts-not-proven-madeleine-smith-case-under-the-microscope Scottish Legal News https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madeleine_Smith Wikipedia https://libcat.csglasgow.org/web/arena/smith Glasgow Libraries https://archive.org/stream/trialmadeleines00smitgoog/trialmadeleines00smitgoog_djvu.txt Internet Archive https://www.archive.org/stream/trialofmadeleine00smituoft/trialofmadeleine00smituoft_djvu.txt Internet Archive All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

During a routine night flight in 1978, Frederick Valentich reported a disturbing encounter over the Bass Strait, moments before his transmission ended. Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast   Support our sponsors!  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at www.betterhelp.com/wmmm and get on your way to being your best self. Sources:   https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-10-21/frederick-valentich-ufo-disappearance-40-years-on/10397438 https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/australia/valentich1978.pdf https://www.naa.gov.au/explore-collection/defence-and-war-service-records/air-force-records/frederick-valentich https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/the-mystery-of-frederick-valentich-the-australian-pilot-who-vanished-after-a-ufo-encounter/0w6n1d2l5 https://www.project1947.com/shg/valentich.htm https://www.history.com/news/frederick-valentich-ufo-disappearance https://www.archives.gov/research/military/air-force/air-force-ufo-records https://www.projectbluebookarchive.org/the-mantell-incident https://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/Visit/Museum-Exhibits/Fact-Sheets/Display/Article/196357/capt-thomas-f-mantell-jr/ https://www.history.com/news/ufos-air-force-project-blue-book https://www.faa.gov/sites/faa.gov/files/2022-10/pilots_spatial_disorientation.pdf https://www.boldmethod.com/learn-to-fly/aerodynamics/what-is-a-graveyard-spiral/ https://www.aopa.org/news-and-media/all-news/2015/january/flight-training-magazine/technique-graveyard-spiral https://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/ufos/jal1628.pdf https://www.narcap.org/reports/ADP004.pdf All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

From Plato’s Atlantis to a newly discovered sunken settlement along the Silk Road, this episode traces why drowned cities still haunt us.  Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Sources:   https://nypost.com/2025/11/14/science/archeologists-discover-an-atlantis-like-metropolis-at-the-bottom-of-a-lake/ https://www.rgo.ru/en/article/underwater-archaeology-lake-issyk-kul https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-hellenic-studies/article/platos-atlantis-story/9E6E7F6C2A59E9F6F6C8C0D7B3A4B6D2 https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0175%3Atext%3DTim. https://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0175%3Atext%3DCrit. https://www.britannica.com/topic/Atlantis-legendary-island https://www.britannica.com/place/Helike-ancient-city-Greece https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/sunken-city-thonis-heracleion-egypt https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/santorini-volcano-minoan-eruption https://www.britannica.com/place/Pavlopetri https://whc.unesco.org/en/tentativelists/5894/ https://www.britannica.com/topic/Theosophy-religious-movement https://www.edgarcayce.org/about-us/blog/blog-posts/atlantis/ https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-24036125 All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In 2011, an entire French family was found murdered in their home—except for the father, Xavier Dupont de Ligonnès, who vanished without a trace. Was he a desperate man who took his own life, or did he carefully plan the perfect disappearance? Need more WMMM in your life? Join the Patreon! https://www.patreon.com/c/witchesmagicmurdermystery Want WMMM Merch? Check out the podcast store: https://witches-magic-murder-mystery-podcast-store.myshopify.com   Our Youtube Channel has longer versions of our episodes, with less editing and more outtakes: https://www.youtube.com/c/WitchesMagicMurderMysteryPodcast Sources:   https://www.rfi.fr/en/france/20110506-murdered-mother-and-children-letter-father-fake https://www.thelocal.fr/20110609/296 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dupont_de_Ligonn%C3%A8s_murders_and_disappearance https://www.france24.com/en/20191012-xavier-dupont-de-ligonn%C3%A8s-murder-mystery-and-an-8-year-manhunt https://casefilepodcast.com/case-129-the-dupont-de-ligonnes-family/ All Witches, Magic, Murder, & Mystery episodes are a mix of Kara and Megan’s personal thoughts and opinions in response to the information that is publicly available at the time of recording, as well as, in some cases, personal accounts provided by listeners. In regard to these self-reported personal accounts, there can be no assurance that the information provided is 100% accurate.  If you love the Trash Witch art (see our Patreon or the Podcast store), Tiffini Scherbing of Scherbing Arts created her. Like her Scherbing Arts page on Facebook, or follow her on instagram at @scherbingarts76! She can create anything you need.  TikTok: @wmmmpodcast Instagram: @witchesmagicmurdermystery Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/465405701297488/ Email all your weird stories: [email protected] Get to know us better:                  Kara: @many_adventures_of_kara on Instagram              Megan: @meganmakesjokes on TikTok, @megan_whitmer on Instagram  WMMM Podcast P.O. Box 910674 Lexington, KY 40591 Music credit: Chloe’s Lullaby (podcast theme) by Robert Austin. Available on Spotify, Google Play, YouTube, Bandcamp, and Patreon! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices