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Everyone is talking about AI right now. Some people are terrified it will take their jobs, while others claim it is the single greatest opportunity in human history. Host Joris Van Heukelom sits down with Salmaan Sana to strip away the hype and talk about what is actually happening to us as we rely more on technology. When we let machines draft our writing, summarize our thoughts, or manage our schedules, we run a real risk. Skills act like muscles. If you stop using them, they fade. Salmaan shares how he caught himself losing his personal voice after overusing AI tools, leading him back to a simple notebook and pen to protect his creative edge. This conversation shifts the focus away from tech hype and back toward natural intelligence. Joris and Salmaan talk through what it takes to stay grounded. They look at finding room to sit with uncomfortable problems, and protecting key human capabilities like empathy, original judgment, and real curiosity. Listen in for an unpolished conversation on how to use AI wisely without giving away your agency. Credits: Hosts: Joris van Heukelom, partner at Hatch Guest: Salmaan Sana, Senior Trainer Behind the scenes: Audio mixing / Visuals / Production: Robbyn Gray

In this episode, Mariska and Matt Dubois unpack why projects fail—focusing on scope creep and indecisiveness. They explore how politics, fear, and weak accountability blur requirements and scope, leaving project managers caught between delivery and power dynamics. Guest: Matt Dubois Host: Mariska Peters Produced by Hatch: Producers: Jessica Revet & Robbyn Gray Visuals & Audio Mixing: Robbyn Gray

Hatch Invites is a remote and in-person platform that explores the transformative power of humanized leadership. Hosted by Joris van Heukelom, a researcher and partner at Hatch, Hatch Invites features interviews with leaders from all industries and walks of life. Guests discuss their personal leadership journeys, the elements of humanized leadership they believe are crucial for success, and how to build and lead human-centered organizations. Our guest, Skyla Herod, a behavioral neuroscientist, shares her expertise on how our brains work and how we can use this knowledge to make better decisions. Here are three key takeaways from the podcast: - Our brains are wired to prioritize safety and efficiency, often leading to irrational decisions. - We can train our brains to become more rational by understanding how neural networks and biases work. - By taking more time for decisions, breathing through our initial impulses, and reflecting on our values, we can make more conscious choices. About Dr. Skyla Herod, Ph.D.: Dr. Skyla Herod, Ph.D., is a behavioural neuroscientist with Hatch. She applies her expertise in brain-behaviour relationships to executive development and workplace transformation. With a 20 year career in academia and industry, Dr. Herod combines scientific rigour with practical insights to create brain-based strategies that enhance leadership, employee well-being, and organizational culture. She helps organisations drive sustainable growth and long-term success through tailored, neuroscience-informed interventions.

Hatch Invites: SPEED UP! - AI-thens Manuel, Nora and Tatjana In this episode of Hatch Invites, host Joris van Heukelom will explore the aftermath of the Deutsche Telekom SPEED UP AI-thens event with 3 special guests from Deutsche Telekom. Focusing on the theme of leading with care in the age of artificial intelligence. 🎙️ Episode Highlights: Manuel Kirailidis, initiator of the SPEED UP Learning event at Deutsche Telekom, shares insights into the success of the AI-focused event in Athens. Nora Weber, senior expert at Deutsche Telekom, discusses the impact of AI on personalization, customer loyalty, and value management in the commercial sector. Tatjana Wittig, co-creator of the Artificial Intelligence Competence Center (AICC), dives into the ethical considerations of AI and the importance of responsible implementation. Join us for an engaging conversation on the evolution of AI, its challenges, and the responsibility we all share in shaping its future. 🌐 Connect with us Visit our website: www.iamhatch.com Stay updated on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/school/joinhatch Hatch Invites: 2024 Many organizations see endless opportunities to make things better, healthier, smoother, and more efficient. They are often excited about artificial intelligence. We at Hatch believe that technology will never distinguish the potential of organizations unless you relentlessly focus on the potential of the Humans within. Our focus is to put a spotlight on the potential of humans. Humans as individuals, humans in group, humans in relation to technology. We call it Humanizing Humans. At Hatch we believe it should be the main topic of your agenda in 2024. Humanizing humans is about self-awareness and direction, about collaborating in groups, about fears and fantasies. About the imperfections that make us perfect. To share our focus and insight we would like you to attend “Hatch invites 2024" More information and tickets here www.iamhatch.com/events-art/hatch-invites-2024

Hatch Invites is a remote and in-person platform that explores the transformative power of humanized leadership. Hosted by Joris van Heukelom, a partner at Hatch, Hatch Invites features interviews with leaders from all industries and walks of life. Guests discuss their personal leadership journeys, the elements of humanized leadership they believe are crucial for success, and how to build and lead human-centered organizations. Hatch Invites is a valuable resource for anyone who wants to learn more about humanized leadership and how to apply it in their own work and life. About our guest László Kónya: László is CEO of Deutsche Telekom IT Solutions HU. He is a digital leader, emotional intelligence champion, and agile mindset advocate. He is passionate about making an impact and developing business. Proven track record of success in driving innovation and growth.

After reading through Ruben Nieuwenhuis’ CV, Roanne was confused - and a bit dizzy. He is the director of TechConnect, a Tech Talent program to activate & educate underrepresented groups into tech/IT jobs; but he is also a book author, as well as a social entrepreneur and the founder of many startups and companies (TechGrounds, Boeren voor Buren, TekkieWorden, CupolaXS, TechMeUp, Growth Tribe); sits in many different advisory boards (Codam, International Advisory Board, Amsterdam Economic Board, Future NL and next to all that, he seems to be the driving force of just about a thousand initiatives. “So how can I describe your job function, exactly?”, Roanne asks before meeting Ruben at the Amsterdam SOHO house for this recording. Halfway during the interview, she decides: he must be an octopus, which totally makes sense to Ruben. Towards the end of their conversation, however, they both realize he can’t be under water, at all: he needs to be on bridges, as those are his natural environment. Don’t worry: just tune in, and all will become clear. Ruben also shares how he spent quite a bit of time in his career in helping a world that was, he later understood, increasing inequality and exclusivity. Courageously enough, he decided to then radically change gears. Listen how, and why. In this conversation, Ruben shares: - How he long worked in the techindustry without realizing how exclusive it was - How, when that realization finally came, he radically changed his goals - Why he is so committed to diversity, inclusion and equality of opportunity - How he combines all his jobs, without being busy - Why he forces himself to read book he does not want to read - and why you should, too - Why, as a good leader, you should be in touch with both the high ranks, and the target audience, in order to understand the whole SHOWNOTES: This podcast was hosted by [Dr.](www.roannevanvoorst.com/) Roanne van Voorst and facilitated by [HATCH](www.iamhatch.com/) - an experiential learning platform helping you and your company become future-proof. Ruben mentions the book [Humankind: A hopeful History](www.amazon.com/Humankind-Hopeful…man/dp/0316418536), by Dutch historian Rutger Bregman. And the book by Marleen Stikker: [Het Internet is Stuk](www.bol.com/nl/nl/f/het-interne…k/9200000115140353/) (the internet is broken, unfortunately not translated in English): He also tells about the cooperative economy that inspired him so much in [Jacksonville](cooperationjackson.org/). And shares his favourite, often uncomfortable podcast: [The All In](www.allinpodcast.co/) Find Ruben on [Linkedin](www.linkedin.com/in/rubennieuwenh…inalSubdomain=nl), or on Twitter: @rubenswindow

In today's episode, Roanne meets with Araz Najarian. She enables leaders, teams, and organisations in being purposeful and relevant. Both those that are scaling up and need support in creating focus and pacing their growth, and also those companies stalling in their growth and needing to re-frame and re-ignite their innovative spirit. How does she do that, asks Roanne? The short answer is: by being curious, and by sparking people's creativity - yes, even those who insist they are not at all creative. Araz lives in the Netherlands with her husband and their beagle, and while she loves her work, she also enjoys leaving enough space in her life to go on new adventures and learn new skills. This is a conversation on invoking inspiration, daring to connect, daring to ask, and daring to grow. Enjoy! Links mentioned during the podcast: Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind: Informal Talks on Zen Meditation and Practice, Shunryu Suzuki: “In the beginner’s mind there are many possibilities, but in the expert’s there are few.”: www.goodreads.com/book/show/402843…_Beginner_s_Mind Getting Curious with Jonathan Van Ness: podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/gett…ss/id1068563276 Note to Self with Manoush Zomorodi: The Creative Habit: Learn It and Use It for Life, Twyla Tharp: www.goodreads.com/book/show/254799…e_Creative_Habit The Age of Surveillance Capitalism, Shoshana Zuboff: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Age_of_Surveillance_Capitalism Solid Project, Tim Berners Lee: solidproject.org/ And if anyone is interested in some of the insights Araz mentioned from her ELP Network projects and research, they can find it here: www.elpnetwork.com/en/insights www.linkedin.com/in/araznajarian/

Martine Beijerman is a Dutch author and legal scholar and currently lives in the USA. Her main research interests are democracy, rule of law and inclusion/exclusion. She has obtained her PhD on democratic legitimacy of international lawmaking. In her book Vreemde eenden (2021 Uitgeverij Podium) she explores the tension between our democratic ideals of equality and freedom and the harsh reality of exclusion, ranging from racism, homophobia, antisemitism and everything in between. She examines the role of group dynamics, the media, and unconscious biases and concepts such as power, fear, shame and status. By bundling scientific research and interviews with leading scholars and thinkers, Martine tries to find answers to the pressing questions: why do we exclude the other? Who benefits from exclusion? And why is there so much resistance to talk about it? More info on Martine: martinebeijerman.com www.linkedin.com/in/martine-beijerman-phd-03335a9 www.instagram.com/martinebeijerman

"We should slow down", says change manager Patrick van der Voorn, and: "to be human, means to be humiliated." Roanne figured that that was enough reason to invite him over for a podcast! She and Patrick discuss: - what working in 5 stars hotel taught him: especially that time when there was a fire and he was on the 24th floor, with all of his guests - what are the urgent questions in companies, noone dares to asks (but change managers must!) - the meaning of his motto: give direction, lead the way - why future leaders need to slow down, AND: fall down. - why true leaders, should dare to get their guards down (and their ties off) - and why we should all invest in 'sensitizing' ourselves Patrick recommends us all to go and try rinsinyoku, AKA: Japanese forestbathing. Roanne tried it already and loves it - let us know what your experience was!

Some people in this world, but not so many nowadays it seems, are truly humble. This woman is one of them - in the intro to the podcast, Roanne will give you the living proof. Meet: Lara van Druten, CEO and founder of The Waste Transformers, an award-winning company that works worldwide to deal with waste in a way that is environmentally ánd socially sustainable. She's a powerhouse, but, as said: a humble one. Lucky for us, she packs her story full of positive inspiration on how to make change, while also making money. Roanne and Lara discuss: How young Lara saw what no one back then saw: we need online universities (and she opened one!) How she then saw that the current waste system, is simply stupid How she managed to found a smarter waste company - without any relevant study background (but she has a major in philosophy, as well as in international politics, amongst others!) Why she allows chaos in her mind What good plans all need if they want to turn into successes (hint: business!) Why words like value and purpose, actually became valuable again

Derek Bruce on the importance of storytelling at work, and sneakers in life If we want to be successful at work in the future, we all need to learn how to tell good stories, says Derek Bruce. He is an HR and talent-development senior, who has been working all over the world with market leading global organizations in the Fashion, Financial Services, Media, Retail and Technology industries. At this moment, he works for Signify as a Director of Leadership Development, as an independent learning and development consultant, ánd he manages the Extraordinary Mentors Network, a mentorship program which provides People of Colour with Mentors. Derek met Roanne in the beautiful Amsterdam SOHO house to share his views on work and leadership of the future. In the episode, we talk about: - Why we all need to become storytellers in order to be successful at work - How writing can help you to communicate better to your colleagues (and boss!) - Why sometimes, the best thing you can do for your company, is refuse that job - Why the best leaders, are selfless leaders… - And the boss-like, very green, very cool shoes that he is wearing. Obviously. Roanne mentions the book ‘Weapons of Math Destruction’, by Cathy O’Neil: https://www.amazon.com/Weapons-Math-Destruction-Increases-Inequality/dp/0553418815 Derek tips the ‘10% happier podcast’: https://www.tenpercent.com/podcast/ Find more information on Derek: LinkedIn -> https://www.linkedin.com/in/derekbruce Instagram ->https://www.instagram.com/derekbruceassociates Twitter -> https://twitter.com/derekbruceassoc

Marieke Vinck, creative director of CharlieMary on circular fashion and uncomfortable change When has it become so normal to throw away clothing we have hardly worn? What is circular fashion? And how on earth do you convince people to change their business model, if they aren’t even interested? In this episode, Roanne meets Marieke Vinck - co-founder & creative director of CharlieMary - the agency of six of the most forward-thinking labels in the benelux, and a circular fashion essentials label. Marieke shares insights on the fast fashion industry, where she started her career, and explains what has to change, and how she tries to take slow, sustainable fashion, from niche to norm. Roanne and Marieke discuss: - How fast fashion kills creativity - How you can make clothing, without producing any waste - Why change is always uncomfortable - What are the main challenges if you want to radically change a field - Why collaboration is the way forward Marieke tips the documentary ‘The True Cost’, and Roanne refers to an older episode on fair fashion, with Marieke Eyskoot. You find it here: https://www.iamhatch.com/blog/7-marieke-eyskoot-this-is-a-good-guide-how-doing-good-can-be-combined-with-doing-business More info on Marieke and her work: website: www.charliemary.com instagram: https://www.instagram.com/charliemary.official/ facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CharlieMary.official/

Robert Overweg on disruptive art, adaptable mindsets and the future of education We, humans, typically try to construct meaning of all that we experience. We see something, something happens to us, and our brains - essentially predicting machines, help us to navigate through an uncertain future - make up a story. This podcast episode is meant to disrupt that. You will hear it in the tone of the conversation, that flows and glows - Roanne and her guest -  artist, adaptation expert, education innovator and artist Robert Overweg - feel a click as two humans sometimes do when they first meet. Not love, not even a flirt, but definitely some sort of resonance - as if you instantly understand each others’ way of thinking and work. Maybe there is no perfect word for that, and that’s fine (although our brains don’t like that!) You will hear it in the tips to art and books that will leave you astounded and confused. You will note it in the conversation about Robert’s internationally renowned artwork, which is mindblowing (check the link in these shownotes if you want to see it!) You will sense it in the way Robert works: he is extremely successful, yet extremely relaxed if one looks at his schedule. This man has clients like Vodafone, Liberty global, eBay, Heineken, a variety of startups, and innovative schools (including the one owned by Elon Musk!) and is the cofounder of the Adaptable Mindset Program that has already been applied at several fortune 500 companies, SME’s, and which supports over a thousand students and solopreneurs, ánd his artwork was featured in Centre Pompidou and on the Seoul Biennale. And yet, he explains to Roanne that he rarely picks up his phone, takes long walks in the forest on workdays, and believes the best ideas come when he is not working. So, in this episode we discuss: - The future of education - Which artwork left him confused and inspired, and why - How his own art-career was ‘scary as shit’ - The importance of taking forest baths - Why busy people need to not answer their phone - Why we all need to study technological developments. Now. Enjoy the beautiful mess, dear listeners ;-) SHOWNOTES: Art by Robert can be found here: [https://www.shotbyrobert.com/](https://www.shotbyrobert.com/) Or here: [The end of the virtual world](https://www.shotbyrobert.com/end-of-the-virtual-world) Or check out his series ‘Flying and Floating’ as it was shown in the Centre Pompidou: [https://www.shotbyrobert.com/flying-and-floating](https://www.shotbyrobert.com/flying-and-floating) Find more information about Robert and his work on: [www.adaptablemindset.com](http://www.adaptablemindset.com/) Or connect with him on the socials: [https://twitter.com/RobertOverweg](https://twitter.com/RobertOverweg) [https://www.instagram.com/theadaptablemindset/](https://www.instagram.com/theadaptablemindset/) Roanne mentioned a book she wrote on fear, or more specifically, on how the world’s best climbers and other extreme athletes cope with overcoming fear. The English version of that book is sold out, internationally, but still available in E-version for Kobo E-readers: [FEAR!](https://www.kobo.com/nl/nl/ebook/fear-123) The Dutch version is still available: [Alles Onder Controle](https://www.bol.com/nl/nl/p/alles-onder-controle/9200000057446925/) Robert advises listeners to keep updated with what is happening in the world of tech. Here is how to start: [https://www.adaptablemindset.com/blog/what-is-happening-in-tech](https://www.adaptablemindset.com/blog/what-is-happening-in-tech)

Mariah Mansvelt Beck always aimed to have a positive impact on the world. This led her to working for Doctors without Borders - at headquarters as well as in the field - to being a social worker as well as to giving yoga and meditation classes - something she still does. When Mariah was 30 she found out she was developing cervical cancer. This sparked an interest in her health and led her together with friend Wendelien Hebly to realize no ingredients were listed on the packaging of regular tampons, pads and liners. Together they started Yoni. Yoni is a fem care brand aiming to break open the taboo around menstruation and to provide healthy, sustainable alternatives to regular fem care. They now have organic cotton tampons, pads and liners as well as more sustainable options like the menstrual cup and period proof underwear. For more information check out https://www.yoni.care Interview Questions - what did you want to be when you grew up? - so tell me about your company, work now. - in times of robotization, polarization, AI; what keeps us, humans, on the right track when it comes to work that we value? (you may also make this personal, so what keeps YOU on the right track)? - what did you have to learn most, to get there? - what do you think future proof companies/leaders need, when it comes to capabilities or strategies? (fx. they need to dare and take risks in increasing uncertainty, or they need to become more inclusive) - do you have a book, or a podcast or film or quote that inspires you a lot and that you could share with our listeners? Show Notes Ever considered to slow down, on your leadership journey? In this episode, Mariah Mansvelt Beck - cofounder of fem care company Yoni - argues that pausing may be a key future capability - to pause, before making a decision, but also to lower your pace on busy days. Or even: creating more space in your life. She practices what she preaches: after launching a company that would radically change the field of fem care, she now only works for Yoni 2 days, allowing more space for teaching Yoga, enjoying motherhood and inspiring change on many levels. Roanne and Mariah discuss: - Why chemicals are not for pussies - How her health situation inspired her to start a fem care company - Her background: from humanitarian, to care worker, to entrepreneur - Why Yoni does not believe in fixed office times - Why silence is scary - Which meditation helps her through confrontational meetings and challenges Mariah tips the 6 faces meditation: https://www.mindvalley.com/learn-meditation/ and Martha Beck books: https://marthabeck.com/books/

Let’s discuss a topic that is as hot as it is uncomfortable: flight shame. Do you have it, every time you fantasize about buying a ticket for a plane? Roanne certainly does. Never flying again is one future scenario, but flying in a more sustainable manner, is another one - and that’s the one we talk about today. We do so with Maarten van Dijk, managing director of SkyNRG - the pioneer and global market leader for sustainable aviation fuel (SAF). Having supplied over 30 airlines on all continents, it is their mission to make SAF the new global standard. That demands visionary leadership. Courage, and being able to engage in complex conversations, because boy oh boy, will this company meet a lot of scepticism - until they reach enthusiasm. Whilst getting to know Maarten, Roanne also found out that he seems to possess some other skills that future leaders need: realism, the guts to NOT jump on every opportunity,  and a surprising amount of humbleness. In this episode, we talk about: Maartens’ journey from being a pioneer in the industry, where his product was still unknown and even perceived as unsafe, to being a big player in the field. Why saying ‘no’ is a must if you want to grow - as a company, and as a leader. How to create a working culture in which little time is spent on back-reporting. Why he is willing to step down and be paid less, than his next CEO. This podcast is hosted by Futures-Anthropologist Dr. Roanne van Voorst, and facilitated by Hatch (www.iamhatch.com) - helping you and your company become future-proof through experiential learning, art, good food, connection and more surprises than you ever expected the future to hold! For more information on SkyNRG: www.skynrg.com Or find Maarten on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/maartenvan-dijk/)