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Curious Equestrian: Where Conventional Wisdom Gets Bucked. The podcast for riders who question "because we've always done it that way." We interview researchers, vets, and evidence-based trainers about horse care, training, welfare, and the messy realities of horse ownership. No gurus, just better questions. New episodes every two weeks. Support the Podcast Newsletter: https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk Merch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/ Book Shop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian
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Hay Prices Have Doubled. Here's What's Really Happening
2026/04/17
Hay prices have doubled. Some suppliers have nothing left. If you're a horse owner right now, this episode could save you time, money, and a lot of sleepless nights.Anna-Louise sits down with Nick from NP Nunn — a major hay, bedding, and feed supplier to stud farms and racing yards across the UK — to get an honest, ground-level view of the 2026 hay shortage crisis. Nick explains exactly why the shortage happened, how he's adapted his business to keep horses fed, and what horse owners can expect for the rest of the season.https://npnunn.co.uk/In this episode:Why the UK hay shortage started last June — and why it's still getting worse.How suppliers like NP Nunn are now importing hay from France, Belgium, Ireland and Scotland.The hidden nightmare of customs: one lorry held for 28 hours with correct paperwork.Why prices have doubled — and the extra 10% fuel surcharge now hitting buyers.The difference between French "crow hay" and UK meadow hay — and whether it's safe for your horse.What Nick predicts for the new hay crop and when supply might ease.How the war in the Middle East is affecting the wider equine supply chain.Whether you're a livery yard owner, a private horse keeper, or just trying to keep your horses fed this spring — this one is essential listening.🕒 Support the podcast: Shop our merch and browse our bookshop (links below)The Curious Equestrian challenges conventional wisdom in the horse world. We interview researchers, vets, and evidence-based trainers to ask uncomfortable questions about how we care for and train horses.🔔 New episodes every two weeksSubscribe to our newsletter: www.curiousequestrian.co.ukBook shop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrianMerch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/
See Your Horse, Not Your Idea of Your Horse | Kate Sandel
2026/04/06
Horse trainer and author Kate Sandel invites you to rethink what it really means for a horse to be well – in body and in mind. If your horse isn’t mentally with you, she argues, you’re not truly training together, you’re just doing things to them.
In this conversation, we explore how to see the horse in front of you more clearly, soften your expectations, and build a partnership that feels good for both of you. Drawing on French classical riding, horsemanship, and bodywork, Kate shares practical ways to centre the horse’s experience in everyday training choices.
Why you can’t separate a horse’s physical soundness from their emotional state.
How to notice who your horse actually is, instead of who you hoped they’d be.
The truth behind so‑called “naughty” behaviour, and what it might be telling you.
Why simple walking with your horse is one of the most underrated tools you have.
What really makes a great teacher – for horses and for humans in the arena.
How grassroots equestrians can nudge the wider horse world toward kinder training.
Kate is a UK‑based horsemanship teacher, French classical riding practitioner (École de Légèreté trainee), equine sports massage therapist, and author of Riding In Release. From her base on Dartmoor, she runs Soft & Sound, offering lessons, clinics, and online support for more ethical horse–human partnerships.
Links and resources
Resources & After Hours Q&A (newsletter): https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk/horse-human-partnership-right-question
Soft & Sound: https://softandsound.org/
Riding In Release: https://uk.bookshop.org/a/4745/9781908809940
Newsletter: https://www.curiousequestrian.co.uk
Bookshop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian
Merch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/
Caring for the Older Horse
2026/03/22
Do you care for a senior horse and want to ensure they are happy and healthy? Then you won't want to miss this episode written and narrated by Sue Palmer.
Sue is an experienced equestrian physiotherapist with over 25 years in the industry. Sue has worked with inspiring owners and professionals during her career, and she's here to share her insights and expertise on caring for older horses.
Sue's Free Horse Massage Mini MasterclassThe Inquisitive Herd — free newsletterEvery episode includes an after-hours conversation available only to subscribers. Subscribe free at www.curiousequestrian.co.ukBooks written by Sue PlamerHorse Massage for Horse Owners — Sue Palmer Harmonious Horsemanship — Sue Palmer and Sue Dyson Browse our bookshop: bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian
Horse Massage: What a Physiotherapist Actually Wants You to Know
2026/03/22
Sue Palmer is a chartered physiotherapist who works with horses and riders every day. Her mission, which she has given herself until 2030 to achieve, is straightforward: she wants every equestrian to understand that pain and behaviour in horses are linked. That when a horse is called naughty, difficult, or lazy, the first question should be whether that horse is in pain.
In this episode, Anna Louise sits down with Sue to talk through what horse massage means in practice - not as a luxury, but as a tool for listening.
Free Horse Massage Mini Masterclassthehorsephysio.co.uk
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Every episode includes an after-hours conversation available only to subscribers. Subscribe free B
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Horse Massage for Horse Owners — Sue PalmerHarmonious Horsemanship — Sue Palmer and Sue Dyson
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Does Kinesiology Tape Work for Horses?
2026/03/05
A $13 roll of tape is showing up in equine rehabilitation yards. The question is whether the claims stand up.
Rebecca Haddock has spent 30 years working at the edges of equine therapy. In this episode, she explains how kinesiology taping works in horses, why the equine version is built entirely differently from human tape, and how she's simplified the technique so that any horse owner can learn it. We also ask why she threw out the rulebook on who can access this training.
Learn more about Rebecca's work at equitecs.com
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Learn more about Rebecca's work: Website: https://www.equitecs.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/equi_tecs/https://www.facebook.com/EquiTape
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Support the podcast: Shop our merch and browse our bookshop (links below)Subscribe to our newsletter: www.curiousequestrian.co.ukBook shop: https://uk.bookshop.org/shop/curiousequestrian
Merch: https://curiousequestrian.teemill.com/
The views expressed are those of the guest. Nothing in this conversation constitutes veterinary advice. Always consult a qualified vet for the diagnosis and treatment of your horse.
Wild Horse Behavior: What 20 Years of Research Reveals About Domestic Horses
2026/02/17
Bonny Mealand - Equine Podiatrist, Touching Wild Academy
In this episode: Bonny Mealand has spent 20 years studying wild horses, she talks about how horses' entire lives revolve around social relationships, and how watching wild horses changes the way we advocate for domestic horses.Key topics:- Why social relationships are horses' primary need (not hierarchy or survival)- The two-year commitment: not riding until her mare genuinely agreed- How wild horse behavior reveals what we're missing in domestic horse careGuest contact & resources:Intro Video Credit: Lizzie MacKenzie, Of The Wild - visit the Touching Wild Academy to watch in full.
Intro Photo Credits: Jean Sinclair. Takhi in Mongolia Photo Credit Nancy Clarke.Support the podcast: Curious Equestrian challenges conventional wisdom in the horse world. We interview researchers, vets, and evidence-based trainers to ask uncomfortable questions about how we care for and train horses.🔔 New episodes every two weeksSubscribe to our newsletterBook shopMerch
Additional Resources mentioned in this episode:Horses in Company by Lucy ReesHorses in Our Hands5 Domains of Horse Welfare
The Complete Winter Feeding Masterclass
2026/01/29
This is your comprehensive "Winter Survival Guide." In this deep-dive, Independent Equine Nutritionist Clare MacLeod (MSc) joins us to cover virtually every aspect of managing your horse through the colder months.
From the anxiety of the Hay Crisis to the confusion around rugging and fasting windows, we leave no stone unturned. Clare provides the science-backed protocols you need to prevent colic, manage mud, and keep both "Good Doers" and "Hard Keepers" healthy until spring.
In This Extensive Guide, We Cover:
The Forage Crisis: Exact protocols for stretching hay and safely mixing forage types.
Gut Health: The "7-Day Rule" for transitions and the truth about "Ad Lib" feeding.
Medical Myths: Why the "4-Hour Fasting Window" is critical for ulcer prevention.
Management: To rug or not to rug? A nutritionist's verdict on calories vs. cold.
Winter Colic: The link between dehydration, impaction, and cold weather.
Weight Watching: Using the winter slump to your advantage for "Good Doers."
Guest Resources:
Clare MacLeod’s Website: https://www.equinenutritionist.com/
Follow Clare on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/ClareMacLeodEquineNutritionist
The native ponies we could lose
2026/01/21
We often think of the Shire horse as a staple of the county show. Huge, gentle, and safe. We assume they are doing fine.
The data tells a different story.
In this episode, Anna Louise sits down with Tracy Wathen-Jones from the Rare Breeds Survival Trust (RBST). We move past the nostalgia of the heavy horse to face the biological reality: we are losing our native breeds.
We discuss:
The extinction numbers: Why the Exmoor pony and Eriskay are now critically rare.
The "frozen" insurance policy: Why we are relying on a gene bank of semen from the 1960s to save these breeds from total collapse.
The lost language: Why handling a Shire requires a different skill set to a warmblood—and why losing the "old boys" means losing the horsemanship skills to keep the breed alive.
Utility vs. Sport: Why "conservation grazing" might be the only job left for our native ponies.
This is not just a history lesson. It is a conversation about whether the horse has a future if it doesn't have a job.
Special thanks to the following photographers and societies for the images used in the video intro: Jennifer Feleris, John Green, Katrina Bell, Frances Ellis, Louise Blundell, Deborah White, El Dunlop, David Stewart, and the Eriskay Pony Breed Society.Learn more about our UK Native Horse Breeds on the Rare Breeds Survival Trust website: https://www.rbst.org.uk/pages/category/equine-watchlist
The Inquisitive Herd (Membership):The conversation continued after the mics cut off. Members can listen to the After-Hours Tapes, where Tracy shares the specific reality of funding these projects and the "messy" truth of breed societies.
Horse Riding Accidents: A Paramedic’s Guide to Safe Hacking
2026/01/12
Have you ever thought through exactly what would happen if you fell off your horse while hacking? We often plan our routes, but do we have a plan for when it all goes wrong?
In this vital episode of Curious Equestrian, we are joined by Mike Elkins, Lead Driving Education Manager at South Central Ambulance Service NHS Foundation Trust. Mike is the driving force behind Project Pacer, a campaign dedicated to reducing road incidents involving horses and improving rider safety awareness.
Mike bridges the gap between the equestrian world and the emergency services, sharing eye-opening statistics and life-saving advice that every horse owner needs to hear.
In this episode, we discuss:
Project Pacer: Why reported incidents (over 3,000 a year) are just the tip of the iceberg.
The 999 Call: What actually happens when you dial emergency services and how to help them find you in remote locations (including the truth about mobile signal).
Immediate Action: Why deep breathing isn't just for calming down—it can physiologically slow down bleeding.
Sirens & Lights: How ambulance drivers are trained to approach horses on the road and why wearing high-vis makes you three times more visible to them.
First Aid Essentials: What you should carry in your saddlebag and why "just getting back on" isn't always the bravest choice.
Whether you hack on busy roads or remote bridleways, this conversation will leave you better equipped, better prepared, and potentially ready to save a life.
Links & Resources:
Learn more about Project Pacer via The British Horse Society
Check your phone for AML (Advanced Mobile Location) settings.
Disclaimer: This episode discusses medical trauma and road accidents. Please listen with care.
Give Them Choice. Why Track Systems Are The Future.
2025/12/26
We like to think that when our horse whinnies at us over the stable door, it's love. But what if it's actually desperation?
In this interview, I’m talking to Lauren from Graveney Equine about why Track Systems (Paddock Paradise) are the future of horse care. We dig into the hard truth that haunts many owners: when you give a horse true autonomy on a track, they stop "needing" you in the same way. And for many of us, that triggers a massive identity crisis.
Lauren also shares how she started her first track system for just £300 (approx $380 USD) and how it healed hoof issues that traditional farriery couldn't touch. If you are struggling with mud, laminitis, or just feel like traditional boarding/livery is failing your horse, this conversation is the alternative you’ve been looking for.
In this video, we explore:
The "Affection" Myth: Distinguishing between connection and learned dependence.Budget Barriers: How to build a functional track system on a shoestring budgetThe Health Turnaround: Healing toe cracks, abscesses, and EMS through movement.Winter Management: Handling mud and forage without spending a fortune on surfacing.nrwN4iftUQFviJqEAZCQ
Featured Guest: Lauren from Graveney Equine (Founder of the Horse Track System FB Group)
Resources Mentioned:
https://www.facebook.com/graveneyequinenaturaltrack/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/808480805889892?locale=en_GB
#HorseTrackSystem #PaddockParadise #NaturalHorseCare #EquineWelfare #BarefootHorses
Feeding 20 Horses Through the Hay Shortage: Track System Owner Shares Strategies
2025/12/08
The UK is facing its worst hay crisis in over a century. And for livery yard owners like Lauren Johnson, the reality became terrifying when her hay supplier called to say the field was on fire. This is Day Three of our three-day Hay Crisis Special.
Meet Lauren Johnson—Faversham, Kent. Livery Yard of the Year 2024. Lauren runs Graveney Equine Horse Track System, a specialist livery designed to mimic how horses naturally live and eat. Her 20 horses rely almost entirely on hay distributed around the track—there's no grass safety net. When her regular hay supplier called to say the field had caught fire due to extreme heat and drought, Lauren's yearly hay bill jumped by £3,000. A field that normally yielded 500 large bales produced just 80. She scrambled to secure supply from a backup contractor she'd only just started talking to—pure luck that saved her season.
📌 IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL HEAR:
The Phone Call: "The field is on fire." Lauren describes the panic of being told her hay supply literally went up in flames due to machinery sparks in bone-dry grass during the hottest summer on record.
The £3,000 Increase: Lauren's hay bill jumped from £11,000-12,000 to over £15,000 for slightly less hay. She had no choice but to pass costs onto livery clients—who are already stretched thin by the cost of living crisis.
Practical Strategies for Horse Owners: Lauren shares her community's survival plan: slow feeder nets to reduce waste, mixing straw up to 50% (gradually), using chaff and hay replacers, storing hay properly with specialist tarps, switching to haylage (with gut health warnings), and utilizing standing hay on pasture for horses that can tolerate it.
The Gut Health Warning: Lauren explains why switching between hay and haylage can cause colic, laminitis, and hindgut acidosis—critical information many vets and feed merchants aren't sharing with desperate horse owners.
The Livery Yard Crisis: Livery yards are closing across the UK. Land is being sold for housing. Yards are overstocking to survive financially. Winter turnout is disappearing under mud. And licensing requirements may eliminate the "cheap field rental" loophole many horse owners rely on.
The Uncomfortable Future: Lauren predicts horse ownership is becoming elitist again—not by choice, but by economics. Fields that once rented for modest sums now command £500/month per acre. People are selling horses into a flooded market or making the heartbreaking decision to euthanize rather than risk unknown futures. And climate change means this isn't a one-off crisis—it's the new normal.
This episode is raw, practical, and deeply informed. Lauren manages both sides of the equation: she's a livery yard owner and an arable farmer. She understands the pressures on hay suppliers, the financial impossibility facing yard owners, and the heartbreak of horse owners who can no longer afford the animals they committed to for life.
RESOURCES: Graveney Equine on Facebook: Graveney EkwineHorse Track Systems Facebook Group (active community with hay crisis support)
#HayCrisis #HorseWelfare #ClimateChange #HayShortage #TrackSystem #LiveryYard #CuriousEquestrian #Equestrian #HorseOwnership #UKHayCrisis
What Happens When We Run Out? The Harsh Reality of the UK Hay Shortage
2025/12/07
The UK is facing its worst hay crisis in over a century. Spring 2025 brought the driest conditions in 50 years for the UK, and England's driest spring in more than 100 years. Hay yields have dropped by 50-75% in some regions. Prices have doubled or tripled. And for horse owners like Katarina Marcus, the reality is stark: hand-grazing three horses in the dark with a head torch just to keep them fed. This is Day Two of our three-day Hay Crisis Special. Yesterday, we heard from the British Horse Society about expert strategies to reduce waste and stretch your supply. Today, we're hearing the lived reality from someone on the ground.
Meet Katarina Marcus—Brighton, Sussex. Kat saw this crisis coming in July. She sectioned off winter grazing early, started hand-grazing her horses on the South Downs, and began rationing hard feed to compensate for hay she knew wouldn't arrive. Her hay prices have jumped from £5 to £7.50 per small bale—and she expects it to rise again. Her 5-foot round bales went from £35 to £50, soon to be £60. But the financial strain is only part of the story. Kat is also an author you can find her collection of novels here: https://www.katharinamarcus.com/
📌 IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL HEAR: The Daily Reality: Kat gets up an hour earlier than usual to hand-graze her horses before work. In winter, she'll be out in the pitch black with a head torch because she's stopped riding entirely to focus on keeping them fed. The Herd Dynamic Crisis: Kat lost one of her four horses to colic in January. She's been looking for a fourth all summer to ease the "terrible number three" dynamic—but her Shetland budget is now her hay budget. The two mares are fighting. The older one, a grass sickness survivor, is losing condition.
The Livery Yard Lifeline: Kat's yard has banded together to feed "little and often" throughout the day, with different owners coming at different times to give small portions. It's a beautiful example of community—but not everyone has that.
The Career Sacrifice: This isn't Kat's first hay crisis. The last one forced her to leave her career as a freelance horse trainer and instructor because clients couldn't afford lessons. .
The Uncomfortable Truth: Kat predicts we will run out of hay. Not just expensive hay—no hay. And unlike the last crisis, we can't import from France (Brexit, and Europe is facing the same shortage). She fears for urban horse owners with no access to grazing. She fears for stabled horses. And she fears we'll see a flood of cheap horses on the market as people are forced to sell. This episode is raw, honest, and deeply human. It's about the trade-offs we don't talk about—careers, Christmas plans, riding time, herd dynamics, and the fear of what happens when the supply runs out.
ABOUT CURIOUS EQUESTRIAN: We explore the questions horse owners are afraid to ask. From mental health to practical horse care, we bring you the experts. This episode is made possible by our Inquisitive Herd members.
Join for bonus Q&As, behind-the-scenes planning calls, and a community of thoughtful horse people: https://www.patreon.com/cw/CuriousEquestrian #HayCrisis #HorseWelfare #ClimateChange #HayShortage #HorseCare #CuriousEquestrian #Equestrian #DIYLivery #HorseOwnership
UK Hay Crisis: Expert Strategies to Reduce Waste and Stretch Your Supply
2025/12/06
The UK is facing its worst hay crisis in over a century. Spring 2025 brought the driest conditions in 50 years for the UK, and England's driest spring in more than 100 years. Hay yields have dropped by 50-75% in some regions. Prices have doubled or tripled. Horse owners fed hay through summer when they'd normally rest their budgets. And climate change projections suggest this is the new reality. In this first episode of our three-day Hay Crisis Special, we sit down with Emeline Hannaley, Horse Care and Welfare Education Manager at the British Horse Society, for practical, actionable advice on how to manage your horses through this shortage without compromising their welfare or breaking the bank.
📌 IN THIS EPISODE, YOU WILL LEARN:
The Reality Check: How bad is the shortage really? Regional variations and what suppliers are experiencing on the ground. The Wastage Problem: Studies show 30% of hay fed to horses ends up on the muck heap. How to identify and eliminate waste in your feeding routine.
Slow-Release Feeding: Hay nets, haybales, and other enrichment devices that extend eating time and reduce consumption (without frustrating your horse).
Alternative Forages: Chaff, sugar beet, forage mashes, and even oat or barley straw—when to introduce them and how to do it safely.
Weight Management Opportunity: Over 60% of horses the BHS assesses are overweight. This crisis is a chance to reassess your horse's diet and body condition.
Storage Solutions: DIY weatherproofing, pallets, and maximizing small spaces when you don't have a barn.
Financial Strategies: Payment plans, sharing delivery costs, and where to cut costs without compromising welfare.
Climate Adaptation: What horse ownership might look like in five years and how we can prepare now.
RESOURCES: British Horse Society Welfare Helpline: 02476 840517 Email: [email protected] Hay crisis advice & cost-cutting tips: bhs.org.uk Free nutritionist helplines available through major feed companies
ABOUT CURIOUS EQUESTRIAN: We explore the questions horse owners are afraid to ask. From mental health to practical horse care, we bring you the experts.
#HayCrisis #HorseWelfare #ClimateChange #BHS #HorseCare #CuriousEquestrian #Equestrian #HayShortage #HorseNutrition
How Tiffany Learned to Speak: Equine Assisted Learning with Teal CIC
2025/11/19
When Lisa's daughter Tiffany was told she'd never walk or talk due to a rare chromosome disorder, horses proved the medical professionals wrong. Within a year at the yard, Tiffany spoke 100 words and could ride, though she still couldn't sit in a chair. That experience led Lucy and Lisa to found Teal CIC—now the UK's only ASDAN-accredited centre offering customized equine assisted learning courses.
In this conversation, Lucy and Lisa explain why equine assisted learning succeeds where traditional approaches struggle. You'll discover the science behind how horses physically lower human heart rates, why their force-free training methods work with students who stim or use wheelchairs, and how young people who refuse maths in classrooms enthusiastically calculate feed ratios for horses. From rescue pony Sam's transformation to students now working in the equine industry, this is the story of how alternative education through horses creates pathways to success.
Lucy retrained as a counselor with 30+ years in the equine industry. Lisa retrained as a cognitive behavioral therapist. Together they've run the multi-award-winning Teal CIC for 11 years, serving students aged 12-25 through alternative education and clients aged 2-85 through therapeutic sessions.
Find Teal CIC:Website: www.tealcic.co.ukSocial: @teal.equine or @tealcic
When It's Time to Say Goodbye: Horse Euthanasia & Grief Support
2025/11/07
Losing a horse is one of life's most devastating experiences—yet it's often a loss society doesn't fully recognize. In this episode, we explore euthanasia options, what to expect, grieving, and where to find support when nobody around you understands.
Sophie Cookson King from Blue Cross walks us through the difficult decisions horse owners face: When is it time? What are the methods? How do I prepare? And how do I cope with the grief afterwards?
Topics covered:
Lethal injection vs. gunshot euthanasiaWhat happens during the procedurePreparing in advance (the responsible thing to do)Disenfranchised grief: why horse loss feels so isolatingSupporting your remaining horsesTalking to children about lossThe rising cost of living crisis forcing tough rehoming decisionsGetting another horse after lossFree Blue Cross support services
Blue Cross Pet Loss Support:If you or someone you know is struggling with horse loss, Blue Cross offers free, confidential support:📞 Helpline: 0800 096 6606 (8:30 AM - 8:30 PM, 365 days/year)💬 Web Chat: bluecross.org.uk/pls📧 Email: [email protected]
This episode is for anyone facing the loss of a horse, considering euthanasia, grieving a beloved companion, or supporting someone through this journey.
Your loss is real. You're not alone.
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