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In these one-on-one conversations, host Linda Lacina interviews the world's top leaders, change-makers and experts on the solutions they're building to tackle the world's biggest challenges, the habits they can't work without, and their lessons learned, all from the World Economic Forum
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What Successful CEOs Do Differently During Transformation: Real World Case Studies
2026/11/05
More than 70% of leaders believe their organizations could become extinct within 10 years without the right transformation. Yet fewer than 30% surveyed believe they are good at making those changes happen. So what separates the successes from the stalled initiatives?
Constantine Alexandrakis is the CEO of leadership consultancy Russell Reynolds Associates. In his book The Catalyst CEO, he compiles stories and practical lessons from real CEOs, breaking down what's needed to make change possible, especially as leadership evolves in an AI era. He shares practical strategies from companies such as Eli Lilly, Merck and Yum Brands and organizational blindspots you can't ignore. He also shares his own hard-won transformation lessons as well as the importance of 'philotimo', a traditional Greek concept that can build a sense of stewardship in leaders.
In this episode, you'll learn:
Why driving change is especially challenging now - and what leaders overlook
What is psychological inertia and how it can slow transformation
How to spot and tap 'influencers' in your team to build momentum
The shocking announcement that kicked off one company's leadership restructure
The unsung form of feedback that leaders often dimiss but shouldn't
Alexandrakis also discusses AI, distributed leadership, psychological inertia, the meetings he never skips, and gives his take on big trends shaping the future of work.
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About this episode Russell Reynolds Associates: https://www.russellreynolds.com/
The Catalyst CEO: https://www.russellreynolds.com/en/insights/books/the-catalyst-ceo
Transcript: https://tinyurl.com/4tmd9rvk
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Microsoft's Lisa Monaco: What Leaders Need to Know About Digital Sovereignty
2026/10/27
How can organizations protect their data while staying nimble and competitive in an AI era?
Lisa Monaco, Microsoft's President of Global Affairs, explains what digital sovereignty means for businesses, governments and other organizations navigating geopolitical uncertainty, growing cyber risks and rapid technological change. She breaks down what leaders need to understand about digital sovereignty and what's easy to overlook. She also discusses the importance of having control over data, privacy, intellectual property and critical services — all while maintaining the connections and collaboration needed to respond to changing needs and evolving threats.
In this episode:
What is digital sovereignty - and what leaders must prioritize Why isolation can leave organizations with less cybersecurity intelligence, not more Why AI security and cybersecurity need to be treated as one connected challenge What role digital embassies can play in an AI era
Drawing on her experience as a former US Deputy Attorney General and Homeland Security advisor, Monaco also discusses the global AI divide, digital embassies and why AI should be treated as a societal and board-level risk.
About this Episode:
Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us
Related World Economic Report:
AI Infrastructure in the Age of Sovereignty: https://www.weforum.org/publications/ai-infrastructure-in-the-age-of-sovereignty-requirements-strategies-and-a-trusted-framework-for-digital-embassies
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Inclusive tech and AI: What Every Tech Founder Should Prioritize
2026/10/15
How can technology solutions expand access, equity and opportunity? Barbadian tech entrepreneur and technology expert Donnya Piggot speaks to moderator Doone Roisin of podcast 'Imagine If' about AI and the future of equitable innovation. It's a conversation that explores implicit bias, diverse product teams, reverse mentorship, and the leadership challenge of asking who is missing from the room.
Young Global Leaders: https://www.younggloballeaders.org/home
Key takeaways:
Build around real user behavior, not a founder's ego or a product that only impresses investors. Design for inclusion intentionally by bringing people from the margins into the room. Stay focused in the early market, while making accessibility and belonging part of how the technology works. This session is part of the Annual Meeting of Global Future Leaders theme: AI, technology and human agency and was recorded live in Dubai, 13 October, 2026. To learn more: https://events.weforum.org/en/events/annual-meeting-of-global-future-leaders-2026/home
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Sana Mir, trailblazing Pakistani cricketer: How sport made me a leader
2026/10/15
A conversation on the relationship between sport and leadership, from teamwork and resilience to ambition and responsibility. The session explores how sporting environments shape leaders and what wider society can learn from them — and how sport, at its best, becomes a vehicle for human flourishing, unlocking potential and wellbeing far beyond the field of play.
Moderator: Mayowa Kuyoro, Partner, McKinsey Nigeria
Guest: Sana Mir, former professional cricket player (and first woman cricketer from Pakistan to be named to the sports hall of fame) and current sports analyst
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Hiring Is Changing: Why Human Judgment Still Matters in the AI Era: ManpowerGroup
2026/08/31
Hiring managers are struggling to find the talent they need, while job seekers face one of the toughest markets in recent memory. Jonas Prising, Chair and CEO of ManpowerGroup, explains what is driving these pressures—from the economic cycle and geopolitical shifts to major demographic changes.
He also examines AI's growing role in hiring and recruiting. While technology can make the process faster, it does not necessarily make it more accurate. For Prising, human judgment remains essential to recognizing potential, assessing fit and making better hiring decisions.
How cyclical economic shifts, not structural AI-driven changes, are shaping employer confidence
How big demographic shifts could push employers to tap underutilized parts of the global workforce
How AI can increase speed of hiring but not always its accuracy
How Manpower uses AI in hiring and recruiting and what leaders can learn
Prising also discusses ManpowerGroup's recent research on employment trends, the early boss that changed how he leads and his take on whether big predictions for the future will become a reality.
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About this episode:
ManpowerGroup
Manpower: https://www.manpowergroup.com/en
Report: Great Talent Shortage: https://www.manpowergroup.com/de/news-releases/news/global-talent-shortage-reaches-turning-point-as-ai-skills-claim-top-spot
Report: Q3 2026 ManpowerGroup Employment Outlook Survey: https://www.manpowergroup.com/en/insights/report/q3-2026-manpowergroup-employment-outlook-survey
Book recommendation - True North by Bill George: https://billgeorge.org/book/true-north/
World Economic Forum:
Report: Chief People Officer Outlook report: https://www.weforum.org/publications/chief-people-officers-outlook-may-2026/
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Be less reactive: A Buddhist monk on how mindful leaders make better decisions
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In a fast-moving world, the ability to pause and reflect gives leaders a valuable edge: the clarity to make better decisions, sidestep conflict and know when to pivot or keep going.
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Why a beginner's mindset can make leaders more adaptable
How mindfulness can help you focus, make clearer decisions and recognize when it's time to change course
Shogun also explores moral leadership, why values matter in the age of AI, and his belief in playing the long-term game rather than chasing short-term gains.
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About this episode:
Avant Labs: https://www.avantlabs.tech/
Zenful Institute: https://zenfulinstitute.com/
About Global Shapers:
Global Shapers 2024 -2025 Annual Report: https://www.weforum.org/publications/global-shapers-community-annual-report-2024-2025/
Read - Blog: What young leaders are telling us about the future: 5 signals from the World Economic Forum's youth summit
https://www.weforum.org/stories/youth/young-leaders-youth-5-signals/
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The books that shaped and inspired 5 tech founders
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In this episode of Meet the Leader, five founders share books that have helped them drive sector-leading innovation and navigate uncertainty — from classics like Isaac Asimov's Foundation series to modern favorites like The Purpose Driven Life and Brotopia. Their recommendations reveal the unique challenges founders face as well as key lessons on resilience, purpose, AI, fundraising and leading through change.
What you'll learn:
The key role books still play for top innovators, even in our AI era
Why a learning mindset matters to shape a tech-driven future.
How digging into purpose helps founders navigate uncertainty
Books referenced in this episode:
Kian Katanforoosh, Founder and CEO Workera
Recommendation: Asimov's Foundation series Sam Yang, Founder, Xandar Kardian:
Recommendation: A Purpose Driven Life by Rick Warren Sarah Fleischer, co-founder, tozero
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Recommendation: Brotopia by Emily Chang Jeremy Allaire, CEO and Founder, Circle
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Find your purpose after major setbacks: Katie Piper on how to adapt, reinvent and lead
2026/08/10
What do you do when life changes in an instant—and the future you expected disappears? Advocate, activist and author Katie Piper explains how she rebuilt her life after surviving an acid attack on a London street at 24 driven by a man she'd briefly dated. The ordeal lead her to rethink her purpose, eventually founding a burn-rehabilitation charity and helping survivors like herself reframe "Why me?" as "What now?" It's a special conversation about resilience, personal reinvention and leading through adversity.
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Katie Piper is a bestselling author, television presenter and founder of the Katie Piper Foundation, which supports burn survivors through rehabilitation. She is also a survivor of male violence and an advocate for people with burns and visible differences.
This conversation explores resilience, purpose, trauma recovery, inclusive leadership and turning pain into purpose. Follow Meet the Leader on YouTube, Spotify or podcast apps, and subscribe for more conversations with people shaping the world
This interview was recorded in January 2026 at the World Economic Forum's Annual Meeting in Davos Switzerland.
About this episode
Read - Book: Beautiful, Katie Piper: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0091940761?lv=shuf&channelId=500&plpRedirect=mhFallback
Watch - Davos 2026 session: Scars of Survival: How I Rebuilt My Life: https://www.weforum.org/meetings/world-economic-forum-annual-meeting-2026/sessions/scars-of-survival-how-i-rebuilt-my-life/
Connect - Foundation: https://www.katiepiperfoundation.org.uk/
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How do you focus on what matters most in a distracted and noisy world? In this special Meet the Leader episode, leading thinkers and adventurers share practical ways to reclaim your attention and sharpen your focus so you can spend your time on the right priorities. Their strategies and approaches for leaders will help you refresh your thinking, make better decisions and prevent distraction from turning into burnout.
Leaders will learn to:
Rethink the first and last things you do each day to sharpen your attention Craft a "to-feel list" to clarify priorities and make days more meaningful Better appreciate the present to take control of your attention Think 'like an ancestor' to help you think beyond the short term Featured voices include human flourishing expert and social psychologist Jonathan Haidt; writer and three-time cancer survivor Suleika Jaouad; blind adventurer Hiro Iwamoto and navigator Doug Smith; Nia Tero CEO Aulani Wilhelm; and Buddhist monk Shoukei Matsumoto. Together, they explore attention management, focus, deep work, reflection, long-term thinking and improving leadership in a distracted world.
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Key takeaways:
Courage means moving forward without waiting for 100% information. Find people who can solve problems, not just point them out How thinking in the present can prevent panic and enable decision-making Hiro is an adventurer, keynote speaker and the first totally blind person to sail across the Pacific. Doug had no previous sailing experience but became Hiro's crewmate and navigator for that extraordinary trip. Their lessons on crisis leadership, teamwork, overcoming fear and innovation can motivate any leader during difficult moments.
Recorded January 2026 at the World Economic Forum Annual Meeting in Davos, Switzerland.
About this episode:
Hiro: https://hiros-choice.com/
Transcript: https://www.weforum.org/podcasts/meet-the-leader/episodes/hiro-iwamoto-blind-sailor-lessons-fear-decision
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AI and Jobs series: How entry level jobs are changing in an AI era
2026/07/21
Entry-level jobs provide a special window into the wider changes we'll see to job design and skill development. In this episode of Meet the Leader, Peter Brown of PwC explains how entry-level roles are transforming and breaks down new research on what employers really want from entry-level workers now. He also shares how these roles can continue to serve as training grounds for career skills like collaboration, critical thinking, and relationship building and why a thoughtful redesign of these roles will be key to future leadership development. Top names from our Chief People Officer community also share the advice new grads need to know in a fast-changing job market.
Key takeaways:
The most dire headlines about entry-level jobs are not yet backed up by data. Employers are increasingly prioritizing applied experience and skills over degrees alone. Employers are expecting more 'seniorized' skills earlier. New grads should focus on outcomes rather than tasks and look for ways to build human skills on purpose. Peter Brown is PwC's global workforce leader and a co-author of the World Economic Forum report Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Entry-Level Work. Subscribe for more conversations on leadership, the future of work, and the biggest trends shaping business. This is the third episode in a 3-part series on AI and jobs.
About this episode:
PWC: Pwc.com
Report - PWC
AI 2026 Jobs Barometer
https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/services/ai/ai-jobs-barometer.html
Hopes and fears
https://www.pwc.com/gx/en/issues/workforce/hopes-and-fears.html
Report - World Economic Forum
Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Entry-Level Work: A Framework for Safeguarding and Reinventing Early Career Pathways: https://www.weforum.org/publications/artificial-intelligence-and-the-future-of-entry-level-work-a-framework-for-safeguarding-and-reinventing-early-career-pathways/
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AI and Jobs Series: Fixing the Skills Mismatch and Navigating Upskilling's 'Messy Middle' - An Expert Explains
2026/07/13
New research shows many labor markets face a skills mismatch, not a talent shortage. And in the 'messy middle' of the AI transformation, that mismatch will be harder for leaders, workers and hiring managers to ignore as they build future-ready teams. To compete, companies will need to focus on skills-based hiring to ensure worker capabilities reflect what rapidly evolving roles require. In this episode, Maria Flynn, CEO of non-profit Jobs for the Future, explains why skills, not degrees will be the currency of the future workplace, and why education and workforce systems built for the past are struggling to keep pace with AI-era job shifts. She shares changes needed in how workers are trained, assessed, tested and hired. Flynn also discusses the importance of designing quality jobs in all sectors and how worker voice and agency matters in both AI training and implementation and how this can reduce turnover, strengthen AI adoption, and close gender gaps.
Key takeaways:
• What is the skills mismatch - and what hiring managers need to understand to build their teams
• How skills-based hiring can expand across hiring, advancement and talent management
• Why successful AI adoption needs worker input, better job quality and inclusive workforce design
Part two of our three-part AI and Jobs series. Subscribe to Meet the Leader for more conversations on leadership, AI, skills and the future of work.
About this episode:
Jobs for the Future: https://www.jff.org/
Research - JFF:
JFF AI for Workers & Learners Survey: https://info.jff.org/ai-for-workers-learners-2026-survey
JFF American Job Quality Study: https://www.jff.org/idea/the-american-job-quality-study/
Research - World Economic Forum:
Report: 2026 Chief People Officer Outlook, World Economic Forum: https://www.weforum.org/publications/chief-people-officers-outlook-may-2026/
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AI and Jobs Series: What one company stopped doing - an HR exec shares lessons shaping the future of work
2026/07/06
As AI grows more powerful and takes on more rote work, what should humans stop doing? Fertility benefits company Progyny took on this question as a company to re-evaluate routines and norms and how AI might help work evolve. Chief Human Resources Officer Cassandra Pratt shares how teams there are using AI to reduce rote work, rethink job design, improve meeting culture and give people more time for the human side of work that machines cannot do, such as building trust and strengthening relationships. The first in a three-part AI and Jobs series.
Key takeaways:
The importance of clear goals and prep during AI implementation How the "Start, Stop, Continue" framework from author Barry O'Reilly can reduce burnout and sharpen execution How to turn teams into superfans of your company and business to strengthen engagement What fluid job design will look like in the years ahead - and how to help teams navigate it
About this episode:
Progyny: https://progyny.com/
Book: Unlearn: Let Go of Past Success to Achieve Extraordinary Results, Barry O'Reilly
Report: 2026 Chief People Officer Outlook, World Economic Forum: https://www.weforum.org/publications/chief-people-officers-outlook-may-2026/
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Top leaders from NVIDIA, Walmart International, TIAA, Goldman Sachs and NYU share career advice, leadership lessons and practical ways to stay resilient through uncertainty in an AI age. This an inspiring collection of advice and personal anecdotes shared at this spring's commencement addresses can help anyone from new grads to veteran professionals navigate coming AI shifts and other big career pivots.
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NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang on AI and maximizing your potential
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About this episode:
Nvidia CEO Jensen Huang, Carnegie Mellon Commencement address: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZh_0uRgrg4 Social Psychologist Jonathan Haidt, NYU Commencement address: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvoyGjK8vTA TIAA CEO Thasunda Brown Duckett, Florida A&M Commencement address:
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Workslop – low-quality work produced through poor human-AI collaboration – is wasting time, slowing teams down and limiting the productivity gains leaders expect from AI. But the problem isn't always the technology – it's often a signal to leaders that teams need more support. Workslop often reflects unclear standards, weak direction and poor feedback. In this episode, BetterUp CEO Alexi Robichaux explains why AI can amplify both good and bad leadership standards, and why leaders need to define what excellent work looks like before AI scales a team's output. He also shares how AI coaching can help managers find ways to hone hard-to-improve soft skills, practicing difficult conversations, tricky performance reviews and tough feedback, all in a safe space before those moments happen with real teams.
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Rethink how you invest in people. AI investment is overwhelming planning conversations. But are you putting that diligence into how you develop your talent?
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