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Evan Vanderveer of Vanshap Capital joins The Brew to discuss investing in businesses built around a deep commitment to their customers. His approach combines on-the-ground research, a focus on founder-led cultures, and the willingness to hold a concentrated portfolio through uncertainty. We explore how that philosophy translates into investment decisions—and how to distinguish an exceptional business from an exceptional investment. The central tension is how to balance conviction in management and long-term growth with discipline around valuation, risk, and evidence that challenges the thesis. Tune in for a conversation about looking beyond the financial statements while remaining accountable to what shareholders ultimately earn. BIOGRAPHY Evan Vanderveer is a Managing Partner of Vanshap Capital, which he co-founded with David Shapiro in partnership with Markel Group (NYSE: MKL) in 2012. Prior to Vanshap, Evan was an Investment Analyst at Aegis Financial Corporation where he helped expand idea generation to include international equities. Evan received a Bachelor of Business Administration degree with a concentration in finance from The George Washington University. CONTACT INFO [email protected] Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Michael Kelley is a entrepreneur and community leader. You can find him running his Chick Fil A locations, at the school he started, coaching football and basketball, and making an impact. This one isnt the typical stock conversation, but it was fun to record. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Steve Hou, Head of Research at Silicon Data, stops by to discuss solving problems associated with AI capex financing. Silicon Data provides users with a number of indices and data sets tracking everything from token costs to chip residual values. Much of the "debate" around financing capex is just narratives and talking past one another. Steve seeks to actually use facts to discuss what is going on; which is refreshing. Enjoy the discussion! Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Bob Robotti stops by for a follow up episode. David Kessler, Portfolio Manager and Securities Analyst at Robotti & Company, is in the room with Bob to provide some additional analytical firepower. This conversation came about because Bill was researching the lumber supply chain, had a bit of recorder's block, and though "You know who I want to talk to? Bob Robotti." Bob said yes to the invite and this is the result. If this show speaks to you be sure to reach out to the team at Robotti & Company Advisors. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Peter Mantas returns to the show. This is a follow up episode to the episode discussing uniQure. It's timely given the amount of media attention Marty Makary is getting; in part because of uniQure. Describing his trip on his Substack: "I flew to Washington D.C. on Friday (and drove to Baltimore on Saturday) with a thesis. I left with something harder to quantify, not a different thesis exactly, but a materially deeper understanding of the terrain on which this thesis will ultimately be resolved, and a set of experiences that I think are worth documenting carefully, both for subscribers who are following AMT-130 and for anyone who wants to understand what is actually at stake in this regulatory fight."We hope you find the episode interesting and informative. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Charles Frischer and Asheef Lalani stop by The Business Brew to update the listeners on Fairfax Financial. They originally came on the program on 7/20/2023 when the stock was quite unloved. Bill asked them to return to the program after almost 3 years of ownership and fresh off the annual meeting. We hope the episode provides a good update to the first. Asheef Lalani as an independent director to the board of Sailfish Royalty Corp. Mr. Lalani graduated from the University of Waterloo with a Bachelor of Mathematics and Masters of Accounting, earned the CA/CPA designation in 2002 and is a CFA charterholder since 2003. Asheef first started his career with PricewaterhouseCoopers in 1998 and went on to become a portfolio manager at UBS Securities. Currently, Mr. Lalani is the Chief Investment Officer at Berczy Park Capital – a private family office in Toronto, Canada.Charles Frischer is General Partner of LFF Partners, a family office based in Seattle. Mr. Frischer was a multi-family loan underwriter and originator at Capri Capital for 10 years. As a Principal at Zephyr for 4 years, he was responsible for the asset management of more than 5,000 multi-family units and all related financings of the portfolio. Frischer sits on the Board of Kingsway Financial and Altisource Asset Management. He attended his first Berkshire annual meeting in 1998, his first Market annual meeting in 1999 and his first Fairfax annual meeting in 2010. He holds an B.A. in Government from the College of Arts and Sciences from Cornell University.   Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Evan Tindell, CIO at Bireme Capital, returns to The Brew for a laid back conversation. The impetus for the conversation is Evan's Q4 letter. A year ago Evan came on the show to educate people about some mistakes he made in 2024. In that show he made the case for foreign stocks. The portfolio he discussed at that time did quite well (our words; not his) in 2025. Find out what he's thinking about now. And hopefully have a few laughs along the way. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Sonu Chawla of Times Square Capital Management shares her investment philosophy, focusing on growth with a conscience, valuation discipline, and management assessment. Stocks discussed include Argenx, Carpenter Technologies, Cheniere, and JFrog. The conversation provides insights into how Sonu navigates market dislocations, valuation challenges, and sector opportunities. Sonu's bio: Sonu is a Director, Portfolio Manager/Analyst, and Partner in TimesSquare’s growth equity group. She is responsible for research coverage of the Software, Technology Services, and Internet & Communications sectors within TMT industry. Sonu joined TimesSquare in August 2018 from Pine River Capital Management, a multi-strategy hedge fund where she was a Senior Analyst covering TMT sectors across Software, Internet, Services, Hardware and Telecom. Her previous research analyst experiences were as a Senior TMT Analyst at Surveyor Capital platform of Citadel and an Analyst at Fred Alger Management. Sonu has an M.S. in Mathematics and Computer Science from Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi and an M.B.A from Kellogg School of Management at Northwestern University. She is a member of the CFA Institute and the CFA Society New York. Sonu is conversational in Hindi. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

@crashkolnikov on X, and author of Notes From The Beauty Contest Substack, joins the show. Notes From The Beauty Contest is a long form Substack that focuses on stocks that are somewhat under covered elsewhere. It got its start with a deep dive into Regeneron, which is a primary focal point of this discussion. We hope you enjoy. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout: Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

uniQure is a business that develops gene therapies. uniQure's AMT-130 is currently in the headlines. This podcast episode attempts to present the Huntington's Disease community's arguments for why the FDA should work collaboratively to design a palatable drug trial. Last week the FDA told uniQure that AMT-130 would be subject to a double blind, Phase 3, randomized controlled study. While the scientific basis for that request is sound in most cases, the Huntington's Disease community argues that path is overly burdensome; perhaps impossible. This episode cites: Dr. Sung - https://www.youtube.com/watch?si=VhMQaFAZRvQA5NRj&t=62&v=mwEEJ91LeJY&feature=youtu.be Sr. Sarah Tabrizi - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKj1JRfJBRE&t=356s Dr. Ed Wild - https://www.spreaker.com/episode/uniqure-update-with-dr-ed-wild--67900959 FDA papers - External Control Guidance https://www.fda.gov/media/122425/downloadUse of Bayesian Statistics - https://www.fda.gov/regulatory-information/search-fda-guidance-documents/use-bayesian-methodology-clinical-trials-drug-and-biological-products Senate Committee on Aging - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLm1SltbRxw&t=2702s Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠  OG Sponsor Shoutout! Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Jacob Shapiro is a geopolitical analyst who provides strategic guidance to families, investors, and corporations. He is a global thought leader in the area of geopolitics and its impact on everything from global markets to supply chains. You can find his Substack at https://substack.com/@jashap, his personal podcast at here (Apple) or here (Spotify), or you can follow Geopolitical Cousins here (Apple) or here (Spotify). Hope y'all enjoy! Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ OG Sponsor Shoutout! Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Jeff and Jason, from the Investing Unscripted podcast, stop by the show for some general investment banter. Decent laughs, hopefully some smart thoughts, and a fun convo. Hope y'all enjoy! Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠ OG Sponsor Shoutout! Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Adam Wilk, Founder and CIO of Greystone Capital Management discusses all things investing. Prior to launching Greystone, Adam worked in scouting and analytics roles with the San Antonio Spurs and Houston Rockets, followed by commercial credit underwriting at a major bank. Those roles emphasized disciplined decision-making under uncertainty and long time horizons, which are central to how Greystone evaluates businesses, assesses risk, and allocates capital. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠ OG Sponsor Shoutout! Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Some Sunday thoughts and an offer from Bill. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠⁠ OG Sponsor Shoutout! Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.

Will Thomson returns! In this episode he has the audacity to suggest oil might be a smarter place to fish than gold. He also discusses copper as a theme. Bill likes Will. You should listen to Will. Will is a solid dude. Sponsorship Information Thank you to ⁠⁠Trata⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. If you're listening to this podcast, you'll like Trata. Trata is buyside to buyside conversations on individual stocks. Trata makes finding a bull or bear on any stock as easy as clicking two buttons. Over 125 funds globally contribute that collectively cover 2000+ tickers. Trata raised over $3mm coming out of Y Combinator. Before you would track 13Fs, now you can understand what funds are actually thinking. You can join as a lurker or you can join as a contributor and Trata will pay you hundreds of dollars per call. For a free trial, go to ⁠⁠trytrata.com/brew⁠⁠ OG Sponsor Shoutout! Thank you to ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ for sponsoring the show. DISCOUNT INFO: If you use the affiliate link ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠fiscal.ai/brew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, you will automatically get 2 weeks of Fiscal Pro for Free and if you find that you want to upgrade, my link will get you 15% off any paid plans. About ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ is the complete modern data terminal for global equities. The ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ platform combines a powerful user experience with all the financial data capabilities that professional investors need.  Users get up to 20 years of historical financials for all stocks globally that they can easily chart, compare, or export into their own models.  And unlike legacy data terminals where it can take hours or even days, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠’s data is updated within minutes of earnings reports.  ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Fiscal.ai⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ also tracks all the company-specific Segment & KPI data so you don’t have to.  Like to track Amazon’s Cloud Revenue? They’ve got it. How about Spotify’s premium subscribers?  Or Google’s quarterly paid clicks? They’ve got all of it.