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Unsettled: Journeys in Truth and Conciliation

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40 episodes
Language
English
Date created
2020/11/27
Latest episode
2026/08/14
Average duration
69 min.
Release period
93 days

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Unsettled: Journeys in Truth and Conciliation builds upon the 94 calls to action of Canada's Truth and Reconciliation Commission, from the perspectives of Indigenous cohost Jessica Vandenberghe, settler cohost George Lee, and their Indigenous and settler guests. We start from the belief that conciliation in Canada is an ongoing project, individually and collectively, as the country moves beyond colonial thinking to build a nation of nations—one free of racist, pro-assimiliation policies, and one that honours treaties and other commitments to Indigenous peoples. Want to keep the conversation going? Donate here: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys

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Episode 40: Water as Life, Treaty as Partnership—How Shared Responsibility and Respect Reshape the Road Forward, feat. Mario Swampy
2026/08/14
Send us Fan Mail Former Samson Cree Nation councillor and ongoing community leader Mario Swampy explores the intersection of historical trauma, family and community life, addiction and recovery, his Christian faith, and the way forward for truth, reciprocity and conciliation in Canada. In this broadcast of a lecture series installment run by co-host Jessica Vandenberghe, Swampy reflects on his political career, a passion for serving his people, and why he's adopted a shoulder-to-shoulder mindset while working towards proper water infrastructure for First Nations. "Treaty, yes, is about rights, but it's also about responsibility, and there's responsibility and rights that exist on both sides of that table," Swampy says. "When you're willing to look at it that way, then you stop looking at each other in an adversarial approach, and you start looking at each other like true partners." Colonial government systems have perpetrated dependency and trauma for Indigenous people. Yet he notes that holding onto anger and pointing fingers can undervalue personal accountability and relationship building. Swampy highlights his participation on the Samson Cree Nation Nipiy Committee. Nipiy, he explains, is the Cree word for water, derived from the phrase niya pimatisiwin, for I am life. Also mentioned is Mario and his family's renewed battle with cancer. Listeners can donate via www.gofundme.com/f/marios-fight-against-cancer if they want to financially support the Swampys. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 39: Heart to Heart, Music to Music—How the Songs We Sing Propel Canada's Truth and Reconciliation Process , feat. Eric Alper
2026/06/05
Send us Fan Mail Prominent music publicist and SiriusXM radio host Eric Alper explores the intersection of the music industry, systemic barriers for Indigenous artists and the way forward for truth and conciliation in Canada. In this conversation with cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee, Alper reflects on his 30-year career, his lifelong passion for the magic of storytelling in music, and why he adopts the mindset of a "shameless idealist" when fighting to get musicians heard. "I keep saying yes to doing things for no other reason that I just like and love music, and I like being around people that make magic happen, because I can't play a single note," Alper says. "I've never written a song before. You stick me in a recording studio, I've absolutely no idea, zero, what and how anything is done."  But what he does know is that the entertainment industry has historically excluded and exploited Indigenous voices. At the same time, he notes that classifying Indigenous music as a distinct genre undervalues the breadth of musical styles within the scene today. Among the Indigenous artists and acts Alper highlights are Francis Baptiste, Tom Wilson, Crystal Shawanda, Northern Cree, Susan Aglukark, Mattmac, Mike Bern, Duke Redbird and Donita Large. Also getting a special shoutout is the non-Indigenous group Sultans of String and its cofounder Chris McKhool for their groundbreaking collaborations with Indigenous acts in Canada, resulting in the album Walking Through the Fire. McKhool has "kind of been a beacon" for people trying to right the wrongs against Indigenous communities and individuals in Canada, Alper says. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 38: The Colonial Mechanics of Water Privilege, feat. Kerry Black
2026/03/28
Send us Fan Mail Have you ever stopped to think about what happens when you turn on the tap? University of Calgary researcher Kerry Black certainly has—and is keenly aware of how that access to clean, dependable water separates her from many First Nations families. Cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee sit down with the engineer and settler to discuss the great water divide and how it connects to persistent and destructive colonial constructs.  "If I can turn on the tap, and I can leave right now, and I can keep it on for the next 48 or 72 hours, no one's going to come to the door and go, are you OK? By the way, you're seriously wasting some water," says Kerry. "They're just going to send you a bill (and say), do you have a leak in your faucet? There's no urgency to that. And that, to me, is the definition of water privilege." Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 37: One Settler's Path—Listening, Learning and Doing the Work, feat. Ian Smith
2025/09/26
Send us Fan Mail Ian Smith, director of business development with the University of Alberta's Faculty of Engineering, talks about personal actions and impactful programs that tie into his own truth and conciliation journey. Cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee talk with Ian about moments of revelationeffective approaches, big and small, to truth and conciliationlearning to be a musician, responding to criticism and trying again (Ian has a master's degree in music performance from Arizona State University)the need for more genuine initiatives and less box tickingand much more.If you're looking for a simple entry point to your own truth and conciliation journey, Ian has a recommendation: "Go get some books. Read Indigenous authors. Read their perspectives. And that helps you understand more truth." Also, if you've got a spare zero dollars to spend, take the University of Alberta's online Indigenous Canada course, he says. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 36: Ethical Entrenchment—A Professional Place for Traditional Indigenous Values, feat. John Desjarlais
2025/02/28
Send us Fan Mail John Desjarlais, a professional engineer who grew up in Cumberland House, Sask., explores the values-based teachings of Indigenous peoples and his own Métis upbringing for pathways into more representative codes of ethics for professional bodies. A proponent of practical approaches to engraining truth and reconcilation (or conciliation or reciprocity) in the lives of all Canadians, Desjarlais speaks with hosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee about community wealth, role-modelling, the need for representation of Indigenous communities and peoples among decision-makers and policy-makers, and much more. "When I looked at the Cree code of ethics, I was, like, wow. It's all virtues. It's values. It's ways of being," says Dejarlais, a past president of the Association of Professional Engineers and Geoscientists of Saskatchewan. Non-Indigenous codes of ethics tend to focus on duty, he said — and would benefit from expanding into values that accent things like humility, respect and relationships. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 35: Diversity Destigmatized—How an Online Universe Celebrates Our Differences and Decolonizes Our Thinking, feat. Nicole Weatherly
2024/09/26
Send us Fan Mail Nicole Weatherly's deep connection to the art and genius of her brother, his challenges and his unique essence underpin the space for change she's created under the banner Superstar X. Cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee talk with Nicole about what makes her and her website tick, on the eve of Canada's National Day for Truth and Reconciliation and the launch of Love 2024, a multiplatform, weeks-long extravaganza. Subtitled An (un)Learning Summit for Truth & (re)Conciliation, Love 2024 kicks off on September 30, connecting Indigenous and non-Indigenous people through art shows, truth talks and Superstar X Magazine. The festival of ideas, words and imagery promotes healing and actionable steps to reciprocity across Turtle Island. Jessica, George and Nicole discuss: Nicole's journey from the small town of Czar, Alberta, to the big-city lights of Toronto, Ontariothe tricky distinctions and pratfalls of so-called allyship—along with the tricky distinctions and pratfalls of discovering and sharing your ancestral identitywhy and how Superstar X connects to her brother, Edward, and others who fall outside mainstream labelshow art breaks down barriers to reach into our souls, revealing and personalizing universal truthspersonal motivations for social changethe adoption and use of information technology as a force for good within and beyond Indigenous communities.and much more. Superstar X Website https://www.superstarx.xyz/ Love 2024 Registration https://www.eventbrite.com/cc/love-2024-3583239 Kevin Peeace Art https://www.kevinpeeace.com/ Ma-Nee Chacaby Art https://www.superstarx.xyz/artists/ma-nee-chacaby Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 34: International Relations—How Colonial Laws Often (But Not Always) Fail Indigenous Communities and the Environment, feat. Deborah Curran
2024/08/30
Send us Fan Mail Deborah Curran's passion for the environment flows through her psyche and the work she does as a lawyer, an academic and a consultant. "If you met me in my 15-year-old self and drew a line, it would be pretty straight to where I am today," says Curran, a professor with the Faculty of Law and the School of Environmental Studies at the University of Victoria. Jessica, George and Deborah discuss: the inherent limitations of colonial law in addressing Indigenous and environmental issueshow some Indigenous communities are putting an outward-looking face on their internal legal ordersthe pressure, expectations and workloads placed on Indigenous leadersthe implementation of the United Nations Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoplesthe growing role of Indigenous awareness training in Canada's professionsthe work and purpose of UVic's Indigenous Law Research Unit and student-led Environmental Law Centreand much more.Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 33: The Afterlife of a Family Lie Gives Rise to a Powerful Mohawk Voice, feat. Tom Wilson CM
2024/02/29
Send us Fan Mail About 10 years ago, a stranger unwittingly revealed facts about Tom Wilson's adoption, pointing the singer and guitarist with Blackie and the Rodeo Kings towards life-changing truths about his identity. His origins had been hidden from him for more than five decades, even though a sense of not belonging and a recurring dream had made him suspect things were not exactly as they appeared. Growing up in Hamilton, he'd come to think of himself as "a big, puffy, sweaty Irish guy, when I'm actually a pretty big Mohawk guy," Wilson tells cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee.  "Now I can continue in my life, knowing the blood that runs through me, and that only strengthens my intent creatively," says Wilson, a member of the Kahnawake Mohawk Nation in Quebec.  "My job now is to bring the Mohawk culture into the light, to battle whatever way I can, artistically or with my voice, or through  standing as a land defender, or through starting an Indigenous scholarship, which I did at McMaster—all those ways are fighting colonialism." Find out more about Wilson, his thoughts on Canada, colonialism and identity, and his way of living a Mohawk life in this episode of Unsettled: Journeys in Truth & Conciliation. The Tom Wilson Indigenous Bursary in Honour of Bunny Wilson https://tomwilsononline.com/scholarship/ Beautiful Scars: Steeltown Secrets, Mohawk Skywalkers and the Road Home https://www.penguinrandomhouse.ca/books/531052/beautiful-scars-by-tom-wilson/9780385685672 Beautiful Scars TVO Documentary https://www.tvo.org/video/documentaries/beautiful-scars The Art of Tom Wilson https://tomwilsononline.com/art/ Kahnawake Mohawk Nation http://www.kahnawake.com/ Thunder Bay Podcast https://www.canadaland.com/shows/thunder-bay/ Thunder Bay on Crave https://www.crave.ca/en/tv-shows/thunder-bay Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 32: Ancestral Advice—Wolastoqiyik Musician Taps Culture and Language for Inspiration, feat. Mike Bern of Tobique First Nation
2023/11/30
Send us Fan Mail When your ancestors speak to you, you should probably listen. And in Mike Bern's case, that means using his talent and voice to honour them, his culture, and the loved ones he's lost. The folk rocker from Tobique First Nation in New Brunswick released the album Ancestors earlier this year, with the single no words for goodbye reaching number one on the Indigenous Music Countdown. Cohosts Jessica and George talk to Mike about his current and past musical focus, his culture, the importance of incorporating his native language in his songs, and much more. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 31: The Fentanyl Crisis—A Kainai Woman's Survival Guide for Families and Communities, feat. Ramona Big Head
2023/11/01
Send us Fan Mail Renowned Blackfoot educator Ramona Big Head talks about overdoses and other tragedies, the ripple effect of residential school abuses through generations and families, and hope. Recent deaths in her community and family "knocked me off my feet," she tells cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee. "I think I'm still processing the magnitude of these losses. And it's still happening." Among her tools for healing are prayer, ceremony, physical exercise, humour, empathy, and spending time with her grandchildren. "I'm such an optimist," Ramona says. "I honestly believe that this generation of kids. . .they could be the first generation of our people that absolutely, 100 per cent stay away from drugs or alcohol. Why? Because they see immediately, you take that drug, you die." Warning: suicide, sexual abuse, and substance abuse are discussed in this episode. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 30: From Trauma to Song—How Women and Community Create Musical Magic, feat. Haida-Cree performer Kristi Lane Sinclair
2023/09/30
Send us Fan Mail Rooted in her own story of domestic abuse, Kristi Lane Sinclair's album Super Blood Wolf Moon oozes strength, perseverance, pain, and vulnerability. The award-winning Haida-Cree singer-songwriter has released a searing, deeply personal, and profound collection of songs, at once driving and anthemic, wispy and gentle, angsty and orchestral. "I didn't want to write this," says Kristi. "It was the last thing I wanted to do at that point, to share my story. But just going through it, I had this knowledge. I'm part of this secret club now. . .I just thought I'd extend that. If you know you know. They'll get what I'm talking about, and I'll not really help but just hang out and make someone feel not quite so alone." Cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee also talk with Kristi about: the healing power of creativity, women, community, family, ancestors, dogs (especially one named Murphy Brown) and naturethe need for non-Indigenous Canadians to stand against racism and for justice, side-by-side with their Indigenous neighboursKristi's film and TV workthe making of a song that features the late Inuit singer Kelly Fraser and the supporting video that features Haida women and family in traditional and ancestral rolesfilm-making and TV workand much, much more. Under fair dealing provisions of Canada's Copyright Act, we used recordings of several songs from Super Blood Wolf Moon in the production of this episode. If you'd like hear more, download Kristi's music wherever you get your music. You can also find out more about her and her music on her website: www.kristilanesinclair.ca. To watch the official music video of Break, feat. Kelly Fraser, check out Kristi's YouTube channel: https://youtu.be/NkNN2o94O-s?si=nfqOOk-GTcEteTnn Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 29: The Trail So Far—A Bridges and Milestones Episode, feat. Jessica Vandenberghe
2023/04/27
Send us Fan Mail In our Season 3 finale, Jessica and George look back, look ahead, and look around. Their discussion of  how the podcast has affected them and others—and where it might go from here—touches on many of the truth and conciliation challenges Indigenous and non-Indigenous Canadians continue to face. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 28: All Together Now—One Person's Take on the Music, the Spirit, and the Mystery of Who We Are, feat. Kevin John
2023/03/31
Send us Fan Mail For musician and luthier Kevin John of Kaslo, B.C., delving into his Indigenous roots is an important part of his own unfolding story. But it's not everything. The full story, he says, is about who the rest of us are, too, and what we can do individually and collectively to make Canada and the world a better place. Kevin—the writer and performer of the podcast's theme music—talks about reconnecting with his Kyuquot/Checleseht First Nations family, finding his own reason for being, and the need for peoples reconnected by technology to start heeding the teachings of their elders and spiritual leaders. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 27: Dream Job—It Has Special Meaning for One Indigenous Colouring Book Entrepreneur, feat. Diana Frost
2023/02/23
Send us Fan Mail Her heart told her she needed to connect her work to helping others and making a difference. Calgarian Diana Frost's dreamscape looked after the rest, giving her a fully formed outline for what her future as a social entrepreneur would look like. "I needed to do something I cared about, in order to justify the effort and time," she remembers. "And one morning, in the spring of 2016, I woke up suddenly and I remembered my dream, which was a very unusual thing for me: I never remember my dreams. "And I rushed into the living room and I said, 'John (my husband), I'm going to publish a series of colouring books. And I'm going to work with elders and artists from different nations, and we're going to share stories and teachings and beautiful artwork and we're going to help people to connect.' "And John looked at me and he was stunned, because how do you go from engineering to book publishing? But it just seemed to fit; it just seemed right, you know?" Visit the Colouring It Forward website at https://colouringitforward.com/ Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]
Episode 26: The Vocabulary of Conciliation—What's a Language to Do in a Changing Canada? feat. Jessica Vandenberghe
2023/01/27
Send us Fan Mail Are the very constructs of English a barrier on Canada's path to becoming a nation of nations? Cohosts Jessica Vandenberghe and George Lee talk about words—how they serve us, how they fail us, and how they reflect and unlock our identities. Support the show Join our Facebook community: www.facebook.com/UnsettledJourneys/ Check us out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/unsettledjourneys/ Become a paid subscriber: https://ko-fi.com/unsettledjourneys Questions, comments, suggestions, offers to volunteer: [email protected]

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