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Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note. How do you lead people who have the agency not to follow you? Dr. Jeff Thompson, inaugural director of BYU’s Sorensen Center for Moral and Ethical Leadership, joins Hank and John to explore Jeremiah’s 40 years of faithful service without success and what his story teaches us about letting go of control, trusting the Lord, and leading through our own unique gifts. SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTS English: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT243EN ALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTES followHIM website: https://www.followHIM.co FREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKS New Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBook Old Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBook Book of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBook WEEKLY NEWSLETTER https://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast TIMECODES 00:00:00 Welcome 00:01:41 Meet Dr. Jeff Thompson 00:03:51 Jeff's background and bio 00:05:35 Jeff's lead role in a musical 00:09:24 Why Jeremiah is relatable 00:13:56 The Sorensen family's quiet influence 00:16:15 Jeremiah's tough times and tough assignment 00:20:05 Divine identity and unique gifts 00:23:27 Being yourself in the Church 00:28:00 Harmony is being different together 00:31:25 A student's hidden leadership gift 00:34:11 Being gentle with youth who don't fit in 00:38:04 Finding your calling: zookeepers 00:41:54 The Christ-Centered Leader Model 00:44:09 Love, agency, and accountability 00:47:29 Seeing the three principles in Jeremiah 00:49:42 Letting people learn from mistakes 00:52:04 Jeff's mohawk story 00:55:06 Learning through consequences 00:58:09 Leadership that keeps the door open 01:02:04 Love and accountability together 01:06:20 Leading with questions 01:09:17 Why we reach for control 01:13:18 Compliance versus conversion 01:15:38 Grace for parents 01:18:39 The potter and the clay 01:21:37 Growth mindset 01:23:04 A man who changed on death row 01:26:43 Jeremiah's raw honesty 01:29:09 Jeff's dramatic reading 01:33:29 Faith and pain together 01:35:46 Leadership measured by faithfulness 01:37:40 Jeff's story about his children 01:41:12 Giving the burden to the Savior 01:43:22 Hope for families in the middle of it 01:45:53 "Church is still in them" 01:48:54 Control is the opposite of faith 01:51:04 Jeremiah will be okay 01:52:29 Why Jeff returns to scripture 01:54:48 Where real power comes from 01:57:33 Closing thanks 01:59:22 End of Episode - Dr. Jeff Thompson

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Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note. Jesus opened his ministry by reading Isaiah, and the congregation tried to throw him off a cliff. Sharon Eubank, author of Doing Small Things with Great Love and a 29-year veteran of Church humanitarian work, joins Hank and John to explore Isaiah 61 and what it means to build a Zion heart by serving the people right in front of us, and by humbly letting others serve us. SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTS English: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT242EN NOW AVAILABLE IN Spanish @followHIMespañol French @followHIMFrançais Portuguese @followHIMPortuguês ALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTES followHIM website: https://www.followHIM.co FREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKS New Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBook Old Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBook Book of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBook WEEKLY NEWSLETTER https://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast TIMECODES 00:00 Welcome 04:51 Sharon Eubank’s bio 07:42 Dad, the weatherman 16:11 Beauty for ashes 19:11 Still being fulfilled 23:56 "I'm a minister now" 27:02 Loss and making heaven out of hell 31:50 Isaiah pleads for the poor 35:03 Can money heal society? 38:26 The Tadesse family in Ethiopia 41:48 Hope changes communities 44:33 Small things with great love 47:34 Fast offerings and Katrina 51:12 Self-reliance and Pathway 54:48 Where the money goes 57:25 What can I do right now? 60:44 C.S. Lewis and the people in front of us 63:11 "I'm going to fast for you" 68:11 The dark temple 71:04 “Arise and shine forth” 75:32 Airplanes and temple lights 78:51 Zion and the Nebraska hay 82:42 A gospel for everybody 86:43 What's working for you? 89:35 The humility to receive 93:04 For those in pain 97:12 Full circle to Nazareth 101:28 Closing Thanks to the followHIM team: Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host John Bytheway: Co-host David Perry: Director Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes Will Stoughton: Video Editor Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts Heather Barlow: Communications Director Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design "Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note. If you feel farther from the Lord today than you did yesterday, guess who moved? Dr. Ezra Gwilliam explores Isaiah 50-57, from the suffering servant who was “attacked” by the sins of humankind to the Lord’s tender promise to gather every outcast. SHOW NOTES/TRANSCRIPTS English: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241EN French: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241FR German: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241DE Portuguese: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241PT Spanish: https://tinyurl.com/podcastOT241ES ALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTES followHIM website: https://www.followHIM.co FREE PDF DOWNLOADS OF followHIM QUOTE BOOKS New Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastNTBook Old Testament: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastOTBook Book of Mormon: https://tinyurl.com/PodcastBMBook WEEKLY NEWSLETTER https://tinyurl.com/followHIMnewsletter SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcast/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast Thanks to the followHIM team: Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host John Bytheway: Co-host David Perry: Director Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes Will Stoughton: Video Editor Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts Heather Barlow: Communications Director Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design "Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note. What if God, who holds oceans in His hand, is more concerned with your fear than your failures? Dr. S. Michael Wilcox joins Hank and John to explore Isaiah 40-49, weaving personal loss, a vivid vision of divine judgment, and the promise that God never grows discouraged with those who are honestly trying. YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/rWohGVtM0Ks followHIM website: https://www.followHIM.co Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast TIMECODES 00:00 Beginning of Episode - Dr. S. Michael Wilcox 2:31 Shut the left brain, turn on the right 6:52 Liken the words of Isaiah 9:02 Introducing Dr. S. Michael Wilcox 11:25 “Comfort ye, my people” 13:58 “A voice crying in the wilderness” 17:05 “Behold your God” 19:11 Michael wasn’t a great runner 22:04 Who hath measured the waters 25:15 It’s the invitation to intimacy 28:33 When God feels far away 32:29 Kind, not just powerful 33:38 I have a B+ personality 38:15 Holding your hand through it 41:41 He won’t break what’s already bruised 45:21 Justice, not condemnation 48:03 Trusting the one leading you 50:02 The Waiting Room 53:13 I’ll go in with you 57:13 I won’t remember your sins 59:39 Someone pleading on your behalf 1:00:04 A judgment meant to be pleasant 1:04:01 The greatest discovery of life 1:07:10 God loves me 1:10:26 A blessing poured on your children 1:13:01 You will not be forgotten 1:16:40 The god you carry vs. the God who carries you 1:20:15 Babylon falls, Zion rises 1:25:15 Babylon’s false confidence 1:29:31 Make room, you’re going to need it 1:33:42 Peace that never stops moving 1:38:29 Send THIS to your teen 1: 40:03 Fed in the highest places 1:43:03 A love that won’t forget you 1:45:21 Look at how many are coming 1:49:18 Carried by others 1:55:00 It’s not a race, we’re going gently 1:57:35 End of Episode - Dr. S. Michael Wilcox Thanks to the followHIM team: Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host John Bytheway: Co-host David Perry: Producer Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes Will Stoughton: Video Editor Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts Heather Barlow: Communications Director Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design "Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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Touched by an episode? Click here to send a voice note. Why does a good God allow the desert–and why does he wait so long to bring us out of it? Kathryn Davis examines Isaiah’s message of destruction and restoration, showing how Christ’s role as both “restorer” and “repairer” offers a framework for trusting God’s timing even when prayers go unanswered. YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/6fRn2NPCiQ4 ALL EPISODES/SHOW NOTES followHIM website: https://www.followHIM.co SOCIAL MEDIA Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/followHIMpodcast Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast TIMECODES 00:00 Beginning of Episode - Kathryn Davis 00:28 A Marvelous Work and a Wonder 00:54 Welcome and Intro 2:26 Finding Jesus Christ in difficult Isaiah chapters 5:43 Meet Kathryn Davis 8:18 Jesus Christ as Restorer 10:27 Inviting the Holy Ghost into our learning 13:04 Why Jesus asks us to Study Isaiah 16:53 Slow Down 19:21 Isaiah 12–Trust and do not be afraid 21:14 Babylon as a symbol and a burden 25:40 Natural consequences and a God who still restores 29:57 Pride and trusting ourselves instead of God 31:08 “God’s not worried about my son” 33:45 Isaiah 14–After scattering comes gathering 38:10 Jesus Christ–the Repairer of the breach 42:32 The fall of Babylon and Lucifer 45:57 Stop looking elsewhere to be saved 47:26 The gospel is simple–Choose Him 50:07 The Stripling Warriors were all wounded 52:59 Recognizing Christ by His scars 54:35 Who are you going to trust? 59:12 the Assyrian army approaches Jerusalem 1:02:56 Shebna, Eliakim, and “the nail in the sure place” 1:07:44 The God of the 4th Watch 1:09:55 Why does God sometimes wait? 1:13:20 Saved in the fire, not from it 1:17:51 Comfortable gods and divine discontent 1:21:38 Apostasy, restoration, and the gospel feast 1:26:50 Perfect peace–Where are you looking? 1:29:40 Trust the plan and its Maker 1:32:18 Gathered, repaired, and rescued one-by-one 1:36:49 “A voice speaking from the dust” 1:39:27 A marvelous work 1:42:21 The power is in the words 1:45:19 The Lord will wait, that He may be gracious 1:47:31 Isaiah points us toward a Person 1:48:23 The desert is not the end 1:50:04 I will trust 1:52:08 Closing thoughts and testimony 1:53:05 End of Episode - Kathryn Davis Thanks to the followHIM team: Steve & Shannon Sorensen: Cofounder, Executive Producer, Sponsor David & Verla Sorensen: Sponsors Dr. Hank Smith: Co-host John Bytheway: Co-host David Perry: Producer Kyle Nelson: Marketing, Sponsor Lisa Spice: Client Relations, Editor, Show Notes Will Stoughton: Video Editor Krystal Roberts: Translation Team, English & French Transcripts, Website Ariel Cuadra: Spanish Transcripts Amelia Kabwika: Portuguese Transcripts Heather Barlow: Communications Director Sydney Smith: Social Media, Graphic Design "Let Zion in Her Beauty Rise" by Marshall McDonald https://www.marshallmcdonaldmusic.com

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