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This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down for their final episode before their “brief” medical leave post–kidney transplant hiatus. They talk about their ins and outs for 2026 — but, as usual, it turns into so much more. The two reflect on the closing of a chaotic "nine year," the promise of new beginnings ahead, and how numerology, astrology, and Saturn returns somehow feel a little too accurate this time around. Gavyn opens up about his health journey, kidney failure, and the surreal timing of his transplant, while Haley shares lessons learned from job loss, discomfort, and trusting that the universe really does clear what no longer fits. It’s a send-off episode full of closure, hope, laughter, and honesty — a pause before the rebuild, and a reminder that even when you don’t know what’s next, you’re exactly where you’re supposed to be. Music: “Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom “Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Season 3 - Episode 12

We’re back with our holiday special extravaganza! This week, we reminisce about the exact moments we learned Santa wasn’t real, relive iconic Christmas memories, including questionable holiday cocktails and Del Taco traditions, and spiral into discussions about grief, RBF vs. resting concerned face, and why Christmas dinner is basically just Thanksgiving in December.  Music: BalloonPlanet - "Once Upon a Christmas Groove" Rex Banner - "Silent Night" And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Season 3 - Episode 11

Guess who’s in their consistency era? (That’s on character development!) In this episode, Haley accidentally launches herself into orbit courtesy of a mystery gummy, while Gavyn gets unexpectedly acquainted with modern medicine and a surprise nap he didn’t sign up for. From hiccup horror stories to cosmic tarot readings, we somehow end up getting way too real about mental health, body image, and what it means to actually grow up. It’s funny, a little unhinged, and more vulnerable than we planned.. kinda like therapy, but with worse advice and better banter. Music: “Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom “Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Season 3 - Episode 10

This week, Haley and Gavyn sit down with artist and songwriter manager, A&R, founder of The Arena Music, and—once upon a time—Gavyn’s boss, Jared Kaner. They get into the wild reality of the music business and how Jared went from selling houses to working behind the scenes on global hits for artists like 5 Seconds of Summer, David Guetta, Galantis, Alan Walker, and more. If you’re an aspiring artist, songwriter, producer, or future manager, this episode is basically a free masterclass. Jared breaks down what it really takes to build a career in today’s industry, sharing the advice he wishes he had starting out. And because we can’t resist, we also drag Jared through our favorite recurring segments. Spoiler: he’s officially over Labubus. Music: “Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom “Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Season 3 - Episode 9

Happy Holidays and Happy Thanksgiving to our beautiful listeners! This week, Haley and Gavyn gather around the proverbial Thanksgiving table for a cozy holiday episode. They take a trip down memory lane and revisit old episodes in a rebranded “Into It and Over It,” now appropriately titled “It’s Giving Thanks… or No Thanks.” They dive into everything they’re genuinely grateful for this year, along with the things that are… respectfully not invited to the feast. Between the gratitude, they fall right back into their regularly scheduled yap sesh: Haley shares a backhanded “compliment” she received while getting Botox and a run-in with a heroic Postmates driver. Meanwhile, Gavyn fights for that title when he reveals his one-night-only career moment as a Postmates driver himself. It’s nostalgic, it’s chaotic, it’s heartfelt...exactly the kind of mess you want in your ears this Thanksgiving. 🧡 Happy Thanksgiving from our family to yours! xoxo, Gavyn & Haley Music: BalloonPlanet - "Once Upon a Christmas Groove" Rex Banner - "Silent Night" And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Season 3 - Episode 8

Breaking news! Gavyn finally left his apartment which means he and Haley are back in the same room for the first time in a year. Huge! They’re joined by the incredible artist/songwriter Debbii Dawson. They talk growing up in a musical family, her journey from AGT to today, building confidence onstage, and navigating the internet as an artist. This one is full of good tea. 🎶 Listen / Connect with Debbii: Spotify Apple Music Instagram TikTok Music: “Golden Hour” – Ariel Shalom “Good Vibe” – Alex MakeMusic And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Season 3 - Episode 7 Chapters: 00:00 Intro 13:40 Welcome Debbii Dawson 13:55 Pit & Peak 21:40 America’s Got Talent 23:57 Musical Upbringings and Influences 28:36 Debbii’s New Era 31:00 "I Want You” 32:12 Reality of the Music Industry 34:21 Achieving Confidence  39:40 Touring 42:56 Into It & Over It  50:00 Decoding Dreams & Hallucinations  1:00:26 Unpopular Opinions  1:02:36 Final Question and Closing

Guess who actually showed up two weeks in a row? (Miracles do happen.) In this episode, Haley takes us through the iOS update from hell, a laundry room run-in with a shirtless short king (that nearly ended in disaster), and why turning 30 might just be the glow-up she’s been waiting for. Gavyn dishes on Binx the cat's sudden Prozac prescription, surviving back-to-back infections, and booking a full East Coast trip while dragging a dialysis machine along for the ride. We also get into why Gavyn is convinced there is a ghost in his apartment, Haley’s birthday party planning stress, and our very serious analysis of why McDonald’s sodas somehow feel like they’re ripping the flesh straight off your esophagus (and why we love it anyway). xoxo, Gavyn & Haley And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Season 3 - Episode 6

Don't forget to subscribe, rate this podcast & hit the notification bell so you get alerts when new episodes drop! You guys… we’re embarrassed (monkey covering eye emoji)… We didn’t mean to take another hiatus. But what matters is we’re back and this time, we’re here to stay. We SWEAR! On this week’s solo episode, we cover everything from men’s Instagram reel activities and AI boyfriends, to eczema where the light don’t shine and… something about an Etsy witch. Our antics have never been more unstable. Buckle up and join us.. we promise we’re not going anywhere! xoxo, Gavyn & Haley Season 3 - Episode 5 Credits: Audio Editing/Engineering by Gavyn Bailey Produced by Gavyn Bailey and Haley Chapman And That's That On That contains music licensed from Artlist.io for use in this podcast. All rights reserved to the original artists and copyright holders. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome Back and Reflections on Hiatus 02:44 The Journey of Trust and New Beginnings 06:35 Honorable Mentions and Personal Updates 08:25 Update on Gavyn's Kidney Search 11:39 Pit and Peak 15:23 Witchcraft and Love Spells 24:44 The Power of Compliments 27:51 Into It & Over It 28:00 Honoring Your Inner Child 30:22 Life-Changing Comforts: Air Conditioning 34:01 AI Relationships 40:28 Social Media and Male Behavior 45:25 Closing

In this episode, Gavyn and Haley chat with ⁠Aidan Bissett⁠, the 22-year-old singer-songwriter who traded in footballs for guitars and jumped into the TikTok game in 2020. Aidan shares about his early days on the app (before it became the ultimate launchpad for aspiring artists) and how he’s evolved musically with his new album, building on the success of "Planet." But that’s not all—things get real as we explore therapy, the hunt for a good therapist, and our mental health status—spoiler alert: we’re doing our best! Aidan also takes us back to his all-boys school days, where his success didn’t always earn him high fives, and he dishes out some solid advice for new artists trying to navigate the wild world of today’s music industry. Plus so much more that we simply can’t squeeze into this description! Music courtesy of Artlist.io Season 3 - Episode 4

In this week’s solo episode, Gavyn is back with a kidney update (spoiler alert: still failing), while Haley celebrates a win in the health department with a smooth biopsy experience (only slightly less painful than listening to people chew loudly). In our brand-new segment, "Irritation Station," Haley shares how she unintentionally played cupid for exes—because why not add accidental matchmaking to her résumé? Meanwhile, Gavyn goes on a rant about his mortal enemies: Yelp reviewers. And just when you think he’s done, he reveals the time he was the unwitting star of a Yelp novel. It’s a story so spicy, you’ll feel compelled to leave a glowing review… Tune in for health updates, Haley’s matchmaking mishaps, and Gavyn’s ongoing war with keyboard warriors.  Music courtesy of Artlist.io Season 3 - Episode 3

This week, we somehow convinced the ridiculously talented Gatlin to be our second EVER in-person guest.  And yes, we spilled all the tea on her career highlights, including that time her single "What If I Love You" barely scraped by with a teeny 70 million streams on Spotify (very casual, very chill). We also dive into the thrilling world of Belmont University (go Bruins!), her cross-country move from Nashville to Los Angeles, and a bunch of other stuff that makes us sound like we know what we're doing. But let’s not kid ourselves—the real magic is in the chaos. Gatlin dishes on her TikTok trolls, shares her mutual obsession with black cats (she and Gavyn both have a Binx, which is clearly the universe flexing), and valiantly attempts to manage the ADHD-fueled tornado that is Gavyn and Haley. Spoiler alert: it’s a hot mess, but she gave it her all. Hit play if you're ready for wisdom sprinkled with chaos. Warning: TikTok haters may leave feeling... surprisingly entertained. Episode Vocabulary: “That’s For Inside The Car” – Ya’ll need to edit this out of the episode. “Rodent Boy Summer” – refers to a group of men who are considered attractive but also have some rodent-like features. “Kiki-ing” – A casual gathering of friends for gossiping, sharing stories, and having a good time. Music courtesy of Artlist.io Season 3 - Episode 2

Well, well, well… look who's decided to grace us with their presence! After a whopping 700 something days of doing some questionable things (oh sorry, I meant on “sabbatical"), Haley and Gavyn are finally back on And That’s That On That. Clearly, their two-year vacation was exhausting, but they're thrilled to return! They’re back to bless your eardrums with tales from the last Ice Age (aka the past two years), including juicy stories (think bodily fluids) and Haley's sudden career shift to FBI undercover agent (or so she claims). Buckle up, it's going to be a wild ride! Music by Ian Post and Nomad Producer, Courtesy of artlist.io Season 3 - Episode 1

Hello hello hello and welcome to Season 2 Episode 12!!!! We are officially half way through the season and we’re back from our one-week hiatus! Today our guest is Carol Ades, a globally successful artist and songwriter who released her debut single “I Can’t Wait To Be British” in 2021, but has been writing hits behind the scenes for years under her full name, Caroline Pennell. She’s written hits such as “Past Life” for Trevor Daniel and Selena Gomez, “California Sober” for Demi Lovato, "I Don't Know Why" (with NOTD) by Astrid S., and many more. She was in the Top 8 on Season Five of The Voice, and has even written a musical with Justin Tranter and Idina Menzel called “Wild” that is now a sold out show at the American Repertory Theatre. We love an undercover superstar!!! And of course, we’ve got Pit or Peak for you this week…SPOILER: it involves Miss Rona herself. All of this chaotic content is ready for your ears…ENJOY! 00:18:47 – Interview Begins -- Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of ⁠artlist.io⁠ Season 2 - Episode 12

This week, Gavyn and Haley have artist and songwriter Will Jay join the pod! Will is a former member of the successful boy band IM5, as well as a former contestant on The Voice China, and now is making a name for himself as an artist and songwriter. He’s accumulated over a hundred thousand followers on Instagram, and millions of streams across streaming platforms. You’ll hear us chat about our thoughts on the music industry today, growing up within the music industry and how that affects adulthood, Will’s experience as a member of IM5, his journey on The Voice China and our nostalgia for old Instagram filters. --- Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of ⁠artlist.io⁠ Season 2 - Episode 11

Today we’ve got the viral TikTok star herself…EILISE PATTON! You’ve probably seen at least one of her viral TikToks all over your feed as she’s already racked up 7.4 million likes and 113,000 followers on the app as of this interview, almost and has starred in multiple film & TV projects. Gavyn & Haley crack open a drink and chat with Eilise all about her career so far, how she was raised working at her family’s ham store in Virginia inspiring her hilarious characters she’s created, and much much more. Plus we’ve got another chaotic round of pit or peak, of course. Another chaotic episode starts right now… --- Theme Song - “Cheesecake” by Ian Post, Courtesy of ⁠artlist.io⁠ Season 2 - Episode 10