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Shawntal Z. Brown once wore the burnt orange blazer and bought into every part of the institution she worked for. After being laid off in 2024 amid a shifting legislative landscape in Texas, she began writing about what that experience taught her, and the result is a Substack with one of the most honest titles in higher education: Loving an Institution That No Longer Loves You Back. In this conversation, Shawntal and Corinna explore how belonging, power, and care play out inside universities, and why the tenure system, built to evaluate and rank people, struggles to center their humanity. They look at what a care-centered version of tenure might reward, including the community service that one professor was actually criticized for doing too much of. Shawntal shares what academic freedom looks like day to day in Texas, why DEI work is quietly moving underground rather than disappearing, and how to tell a symbolic gesture from structural change. Her answer is a task force that ends in a period when it should end in a comma. The episode closes with a question for anyone who loves an institution that has not always loved them back: what is the cost, and what would it take to make these places more humane for the people inside them? Time Stamps By Topic 02:10 Loving An Institution That Doesn't Love You Back 04:17 Exploring Power, Belonging, And Care In Institutional Life 11:47 The Complex Realities Of Tenure And Institutional Support 19:55 The Impact Of State Legislation On Academic Freedom 37:16 Redefining Service And Community Engagement 41:22 The Chilling Effect On Classroom Teaching And Academic Freedom 50:30 Moving Beyond Performative Task Forces Into Real Action 55:25 Recalibrating Expectations And The Future Of Higher Education Resources and links Shawntal Z. Brown on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shawntalbrown/ Shawntal Z. Brown on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shawntalzbrown.phd/ Loving an Institution That No Longer Loves You Back (Substack): https://lovinganinstitution.substack.com/ Ethics of Care: Can Tenure Be More Humane?: https://lovinganinstitution.substack.com/p/ethics-of-care-can-tenure-be-more “Are we going to have a legacy or be forgotten?”: Organizational memory in an anti-DEI era, by Shawntal Z. Brown: https://psycnet.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fdhe0000735 PEN America: https://pen.org/ Texas Association of Diversity Officers in Higher Education: https://www.tadohe.com/ American Association of University Professors: https://www.aaup.org/ Iván Chaar López: https://www.ivanchaar.net/ Brian Evans on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-evans-58a2b76 Diane Gifford-Gonzalez on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diane-gifford-gonzalez-780522222 The Bell Jar by Sylvia Plath: https://www.amazon.com/Bell-Jar-Modern-Classics/dp/0060837020 CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Is eco-capitalism an oxymoron? In this solo episode, show host, Dr. Corinna Bellizzi, opens with big news: Care More Be Better has joined The Democracy Group podcast network. From there, she turns to a question that has followed her through her entire career. She steelmans the skeptic, who sees growth mandates and externalized costs as structural flaws no ethical CEO can outrun, and the believer, who sees commerce as a lever too fast and too powerful to abandon. Then she offers a report from the field: building Nordic Naturals into a $100 million market leader, the compromises that came with it, the ocean science that led her to walk away, and the algae-based work at Örlö Nutrition that shows what regeneration can look like when it is built into a company's structure. She closes with three votes every listener casts daily, as a consumer, a worker, and an investor. Episode blog page with transcript: https://caremorebebetter.com/is-eco-capitalism-an-oxymoron-a-report-from-the-field/ In this episode, Corinna explores: 00:00 Why Care More Be Better joined The Democracy Group, and why sustainability is a democratic question 04:47 Can Markets & Ecology Coexist? 05:51 The skeptic's case: growth mandates, externalities, and why "sustainable capitalism" so often means sustaining capitalism (and not regeneration) 08:22 Ben & Jerry's: the skeptic's case in a single pint. How Ben & Jerry's mission protections held for two decades after they sold, then unraveled under Unilever's shift to sectioning off their ice cream business under Magnum 11:17 The believer's case: B Corps, regenerative farms, Patagonia's ownership shift, and the speed of market change 15:10 Building Nordic Naturals with founder Joar Opheim, and the compromises even responsible companies make 18:18 Examples of compromises: Fisheries, dolphins, PET plastic 20:54 Ocean acidification & the emergence of algae-based nutrition solutions 24:52 Circle B and how VAXA Technologies, Örlö Nutrition, and growing omega-3s with geothermal energy and circular design serve to make regeneration foundational 28:41 Reframing the question from sustainable to regenerative commerce 31:04 Three votes you cast every day: as consumer, worker, and investor 34:45 Why supporting higher education, including cause partner Prescott College, matters right now Resources and Links The Democracy Group: https://www.democracygroup.org/ Prior Episode: Finding Common Ground in Hard Conversations with Corey Nathan: https://caremorebebetter.com/finding-common-ground-in-hard-conversations-with-corey-nathan/ Prior Episode: How Corporations Socialize Costs in The Profiteers with Christopher Marquis: https://caremorebebetter.com/how-corporations-socialize-costs-in-the-profiteers-with-christopher-marquis/ The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socializes Costs by Christopher Marquis: https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/christopher-marquis/the-profiteers/9781668641583/ Ben & Jerry's co-founder Jerry Greenfield resigns (NBC News): https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/ben-jerrys-co-founder-jerry-greenfield-resigns-unilever-campaigning-rcna231819 Ben & Jerry's vs. Magnum: Timeline of the Governance Dispute (Dairy Reporter): https://www.dairyreporter.com/Article/2026/02/04/ben-jerrys-vs-magnum-timeline-of-the-governance-dispute/ Patagonia: Earth Is Now Our Only Shareholder: https://www.patagonia.com/ownership/ Vitamin Angels: https://vitaminangels.org/ Banking on Climate Chaos 2026 report (Sierra Club): https://www.sierraclub.org/press-releases/2026/06/new-report-global-banks-financed-fossil-fuels-87-trillion-paris-agreement Örlö Nutrition: https://orlonutrition.com/ Isaac Berzin and VAXA (EIT Food): https://eitfood.eu/impact-story/isaac-berzin-vaxa Circle B: https://circleb.co/ Prescott College: https://prescott.edu/ CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

NOTE: This episode is intended for informational and entertainment purposes. Neither the host or guest are medical professionals, so this episode should not be construed as health advice. It not intended to treat, diagnose, or cure any health condition. N If you have specific concerns, please consult with your healthcare professional. Coach Bill Hogarty spent most of his life in peak condition, won twelve bodybuilding titles including Mr. California, and assumed he understood health. Then a shoulder injury sidelined him, he gained weight, and he learned what it feels like to be on the other side of the gym floor. That experience gave him something his training never had: empathy. Today he channels it into the Kids Diabetes Foundation, built on a conviction that childhood insulin resistance is preventable and that telling a struggling parent they are failing their kid will never work. In this candid conversation, Bill and Corinna trade notes as two people who have spent decades in health and fitness, and they do not always agree. They dig into why BMI is a poor marker while A1C and body composition tell a truer story, why muscle functions as an endocrine organ that protects us as we age, and why abstinence-based rules tend to backfire while moderation sticks. Corinna pushes back on the language of shame and on the toll that diet culture took on her own generation, and Bill meets her there. Along the way you will pick up practical, low-drama tactics: let your kid pick one thing from the produce aisle and build a meal around it, walk 30 minutes a day with someone you love, and learn one number that most doctors never order. CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

When natural disasters strike, marginalized communities are often left behind without access to essential recovery resources or digital infrastructure. In her groundbreaking book Climate and Code: Building a Digital and Connected Climate-Resilient Future, Georgetown University Law Center professor and National Geographic Explorer Monica Sanders explores how law, community wisdom, and technology can bridge this gap to build disaster equity. Monica Sanders, founder of The Undivide Project, joins us for an insightful conversation on redefining resilience from the ground up. Drawing from her personal experience surviving Hurricane Katrina to examining digital redlining and community-led initiatives in Panama and Baltimore, Monica highlights why digital access is a critical lifeline during extreme weather events. Discover how centering local knowledge and co-creating digital solutions can empower communities to withstand environmental crises and shape a more resilient future. COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/climate-and-code-bridging-the-digital-divide-in-disaster-recovery-with-monica-sanders/ About Guest: Monica C. Sanders, JD, LL.M., is a law professor, author, journalist, and social entrepreneur working at the intersection of climate resilience, technology, and justice. A New Orleans native whose work was shaped by Hurricane Katrina, she founded The Undivide Project to help communities use digital infrastructure and data to strengthen disaster resilience, and Bonne Terre Labs to build decision-intelligence tools for more responsible infrastructure investment. Sanders teaches at Georgetown University Law Center, is a National Geographic Explorer and Forbes Senior Contributor, and previously held senior disaster, homeland security, and humanitarian roles in government and at the American Red Cross. Her new book, Climate and Code, explores how law and technology can help build a more resilient and equitable future. Guest Website: https://www.monicacsanders.com Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/monicasanders12/ Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/monicadrrprof/ Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@theundivideproject4007/videos Resources Mentioned: BOOK: Climate and Code: Building Digital Justice in a Connected World Chapters with Time Stamps: 02:40 How Hurricane Katrina Shaped Disaster Resilience And Equity 07:38 Valuing Natural Systems: The Barataria Estuary As Environmental Infrastructure 12:14 Designing Technology With Communities, Not For Them 20:18 Digital Access As A Critical Component Of Climate Resilience 28:51 Data Centers, Hyperscale Tech, And Environmental Justice 38:27 Climate And Code: Leveraging AI Responsibly Without Losing Human Innovation 48:06 Actionable Steps To Build Equitable Community Resilience CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Almost every conversation about AI is about power — what it can do, what jobs it will replace, and who it will enrich. Almost no one is asking what it would mean to bring care to this technology. In this solo episode of Care More Be Better, host Corinna Bellizzi, PhD, draws on Carol Gilligan's ethics of care, her own doctoral research into regenerative enterprise, and her personal experience using Claude and ChatGPT in dissertation research to make the case that AI can be an amplifier of care — but only with intention, transparency, and accountability. She covers the copyright settlement Anthropic reached with authors in July 2026, the attention question, the RFK Jr. MAHA report hallucinations, and the four questions everyone should ask before adopting any AI tool. Complete Blog: https://caremorebebetter.com/can-ai-be-used-responsibly-the-ethics-of-care-in-a-machine-age/ Chapter Markers 00:00 — Opening Question: What Does It Mean to Care When Machines Mediate How We Learn? 01:00 — Introduction: A Solo Episode on AI Ethics 02:00 — AI Is Already in Your Life Whether You Chose It or Not 03:00 — What Ethics of Care Actually Is — Gilligan, Noddings, and the Care Tradition 05:00 — Ethics of Care and Regeneration as Near-Synonyms 05:30 — The Care Questions AI Raises: Copyright, Ecology, Labor, Attention 06:00 — The Copyright Reckoning: Anthropic's $1.5B Settlement and 35+ Active Cases 06:30 — The Ecological Footprint: Water, Energy, and Whose Community Hosts the Data Center 07:00 — The Labor Question: Whose Words Trained the Model? 07:30 — The Attention Question: What Happens to Wonder When Answers Arrive Instantly? 08:00 — The Whale Bends Story — and What Was Lost 10:00 — Using AI in Doctoral Research: Building Intelligent Queries 12:00 — Claude vs. ChatGPT: The Hallucination Problem 13:30 — The RFK Jr. MAHA Report: What Happens When Nobody Checks 14:00 — Using Claude for the RSD15 Paper: Editing Without Outsourcing the Thinking 16:00 — AI in Podcast Production and the Disclosure Question 17:30 — The Website Disclaimer: What It Says and Why 18:30 — AI as Amplifier of Care — Used With Intention 19:00 — Four Questions to Ask Before Adopting Any AI Tool 20:00 — The Freedom Not to Use AI: Your Integrity Is Yours 20:30 — Closing: Embracing Technology with Intention, Purpose, and Integrity "Ethics of care moves us from thinking in rules and regulations, in inputs and outputs, to who is affected and what do they need. This show's name is essentially a care ethics thesis. Care more, be better. The order matters. You have to care first." — Corinna Bellizzi, PhD | Care More Be Better | Episode #301 Resources and References: In a Different Voice — Carol Gilligan (1982) Caring: A Feminine Approach to Ethics — Nel Noddings (1984) The Ethics of Care — Virginia Held (2006) Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis — Paul Hawken Anthropic copyright settlement — Reuters MAHA Commission report — Washington Post coverage RSD15 Conference — Relating Systems Thinking and Design Claude — Anthropic DuckDuckGo — AI-free search option Brave Search Startpage AI Disclosure — caremorebebetter.com Scary Smart — Mo Gawdat From Ideas to Income with AI — Zach & Jason Francis, Ep. 296 (previous episode) CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Many social change organizations struggle to bridge the gap between the values displayed on their office walls and the actual practices in their daily operations. Achieving true values alignment requires navigating deep humanity, conflict, and the inevitable shame that arises during transitional periods. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Genevieve Smith, an organizational effectiveness consultant and founder of GV Advisory. Genevieve shares her unique approach as a "professional bummer" who facilitates difficult but necessary conversations around power sharing, organizational grief, and leadership transitions. She explains how drawing inspiration from preschool classrooms and using tools like the community garden metaphor can help teams get unstuck, build trust, and move from panic to practical solutions. Full Blog Here: https://caremorebebetter.com/getting-unstuck-facilitation-and-the-work-of-values-alignment-with-genevieve-smith/ About Guest: Genevieve Smith is an organizational effectiveness consultant using a facilitative approach to her work with foundations and nonprofit organizations. She collaborates with companies on organizational effectiveness efforts, staff and board retreats, and helps them navigate conflict and grief. Genevieve's work tends to make the most sense for organizations in transition who have big questions about how to move forward and what to leave behind. Guest Website: https://gv-advisory.com Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gvadvisorygv/ Additional Resources Mentioned: • The Revolution WIll Not Be Funded, INCITE! https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-revolution-will-not-be-funded-beyond-the-non-profit-industrial-complex-incite-women-of-color-against-incite/381bf42fe2436b30 • The Success Spectrum, Eugene Kim (of the collaboration gym): https://fasterthan20.com/workout/success-spectrum/ • Creative Destruction, Liberating Structures: https://www.liberatingstructures.com/creative-destruction Chapter Markers: 01:04 The Evolution Of A "Professional Bummer" In Organizational Effectiveness 06:58 Navigating Massive Transitional Moments And Organizational Crisis 12:06 The AI Disruption: The Danger Of Polished Plans Over Rough Drafts 17:58 Grappling With Wealth And Philanthropy In The Social Sector 27:50 Power Sharing Vs. Abdication: Explaining "Power Under" 37:05 Tending To Acute Organizational Grief And Leadership Departures 42:00 The Myth Of Neutrality: How Everyday Actions Build Or Erode Trust 50:23 Getting Unstuck: Practical Tools And Experiments For Staff And Leadership CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This bonus episode revisits Corinna's Nutrition Without Compromise conversation with Chef Babette Davis, who was interviewed on Care More Be Better as Episode 174 in February 2024, roughly 6 months after this BONUS episode was originally recorded and shared on Nutrition Without Compromise. In this episode, they discuss: Babette's childhood: asthma, eczema, refined sugar and MSG addiction inherited from her mother's cooking The rough road through her 20s and 30s, including a seven-month battle with crack cocaine Meeting Randall in 1990: the Griffith Park run, her first vegan meal, and the two books that changed everything (Fit for Life and the Mucusless Diet Healing System) Food combining principles and why "mucus" is about systemic inflammation, not just congestion Honest talk on protein, B12, and omega-3s for plant-based eaters, plus personalizing nutrition through simple at-home testing Building Stuff I Eat, Inglewood's first vegan restaurant, and her advocacy with Mercy for Animals Notable quote: "All you have to do is have a little bit of knowledge of what foods to eat together that will eliminate so much of your indigestion." / "At 73 years old, I don't have to harm anyone to nourish myself." Resources: Chef Babette on Instagram: https://instagram.com/chefbabette Chef Babette on TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@chefbabette Stuff I Eat (Inglewood, CA): https://www.stuffieat.com/ Cash In On Cashews by Chef Babette Davis Fit for Life by Harvey Diamond: https://www.amazon.com/Fit-Life-Harvey-Diamond/dp/0446300152/ Mucusless Diet Healing System by Arnold Ehret: https://www.amazon.com/Mucusless-Diet-Healing-System-Scientific/dp/1884772005 CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

The federal government plans to kill 450,000 barred owls over 30 years to protect the northern spotted owl — while simultaneously narrowing the definition of harm under the Endangered Species Act to allow old-growth forest logging that will destroy the spotted owl's habitat. Wayne Pacelle, president of Animal Wellness Action and the Center for Humane Economy, joins Corinna Bellizzi to expose the timber industry logic behind both moves. Together, they explain what's happening to wild horses and wolves on America's public lands, and share what 35 years of animal protection work has taught Wayne about how a slippery slope can lead to environmental devastation. We must act to protect America's open spaces and wild habitats. 00:00 — Introduction: The Spotted Owl, the Barred Owl, and the Question of Whose Fault It Is 04:00 — The 14-Mile Zone of Life: How Much Room Do We Actually Share? 06:00 — The Northern Spotted Owl: History, Habitat, and the Timber Wars 10:00 — The Barred Owl Is Not Invasive: The Range-Expansion Argument 14:00 — Human Beings Crossed the Bering Land Bridge: Applying the Same Logic 18:00 — The Plan to Shoot 450,000 Owls: Why It Won't Work 20:00 — The Endangered Species Act: How the Definition of Harm Is Being Gutted 23:00 — The One Big Beautiful Bill and the 60% Timber Increase 27:00 — Old Growth Redwoods, Carbon, and the True Cost of Logging 30:00 — The Lawsuit and What Comes Next 32:00 — Wild Horses: 80,000 vs. 4.3 Million Cattle 36:00 — Wolves: Delisted for Politics, Hunted by Snowmobile 37:00 — Fertility Control as a Humane Alternative 39:00 — Why Every Animal Sequesters Carbon 40:00 — The Migratory Bird Treaty Act and Its Origins 44:00 — The Environmental Groups That Got This Wrong 47:00 — Direct Mail, Organizational Efficiency, and the 95% Program Model 50:00 — What Animal Wellness Action Has Actually Accomplished 53:00 — Wildfires, Forest Management, and Fossil Fuels 57:00 — The Colorado River and the Water Crisis 01:00:00 — What You Can Do: Congress, Donations, and Showing Up 01:02:00 — Closing: Inspired and Enraged Resources Wayne Pacelle on LinkedIn Animal Wellness Action — animalwellnessaction.org Center for Humane Economy — humaneeconomy.org Wayne Pacelle on X Wayne Pacelle on Instagram The Bond — Wayne Pacelle The Humane Economy — Wayne Pacelle Action Alert: Barred Owl Kill Plan Action Alert: Endangered Species Act Definition of Harm Donate to Animal Wellness Action Aldo Leopold — A Sand County Almanac Bill McKibben on Ezra Klein Show CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

For decades, large corporations have privatized their massive profits while quietly shifting environmental, social, and health costs onto the public. Unpacking these systemic costs is central to the discussion in The Profiteers, which diagnoses how business practices impact society at large. In this episode, host Corinna Bellizzi speaks with Christopher Marquis, Professor of Chinese Management at the University of Cambridge Judge Business School and author of Better Business, to analyze the hidden mechanics of corporate externalities. From plastics lobbying and regulatory co-optation to visionary models of regenerative agriculture and foundation ownership, they explore why exposing systemic corporate abuse is the first crucial step toward real reform. Discover how innovative enterprise models, policy levers, and conscious consumer choices can help build a truly sustainable and regenerative economy. About Guest: Professor Marquis’ research and teaching focus on how some of the biggest crises of our day – including climate change, inequality, and discrimination – are intimately connected to how our current economic and societal systems prioritize accumulating and concentrating wealth for the few over the concerns and needs of everyone and everything else. His research and writing focus on the need to rebalance the interactions between corporations, governments, and civil society to deliver socially and environmentally beneficial outcomes to all. Marquis is the author of The Profiteers: How Business Privatizes Profits and Socialize Costs. His earlier books include the award-winning Better Business: How the B Corp Movement is Remaking Capitalism and Mao and Markets: The Communist Roots of Chinese Enterprise, which was a Financial Times Best Book of 2022. He has also authored more than 20 peer-reviewed academic articles and more than 50 Harvard business cases on topics related to social innovation, sustainable business and doing business in China. Professor Marquis served 2 terms as an Associate Editor at Administrative Science Quarterly and has also been a Senior Editor at Organization Science and Management and Organization Review. He has also served a term as Representative at Large for the International Association for Chinese Management Research (IACMR) and Organization and Management Theory Division, Academy of Management. Before returning to academia, Marquis was a Vice President and Technology Manager at JP Morgan Chase. He currently is on the sustainability advisory board of the French multinational Sanofi Consumer Healthcare. Guest Website & Socials: https://chrismarquis.com https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-marquis-3884834/ https://x.com/Chris_Marquis_ https://substack.com/@chrismarquis Resources Mentioned: BOOK: The Profiteers https://amzn.to/4zbwM66 BOOK: Better Business https://amzn.to/4crRPHF Key Topics Discussed (with time stamps): 01:32 Who Really Pays For Corporate Externalities? 07:22 The Plastic Dilemma: Rethinking Packaging In Sustainable Business 11:57 Privatizing Profits & Socializing Costs: Unpacking Corporate Externalities 20:37 Lessons From GE: How Shareholder Primacy Distorts Business Ethics 30:17 Big Tech And Algorithms: Profit Growth Vs. Corporate Accountability 36:30 Unpacking The Policy Debate: Plastic Lobbying & Chemical Recycling 44:19 Rethinking Lifecycles: Circularity And Extended Consumer Responsibility 51:58 Regenerative Agriculture: How Purpose-Driven Brands Restore Soil & Systems 01:00:02 Building A Regenerative Economy: Purpose-Driven Governance & Ownership 01:07:15 Conclusion & Takeaways: Empowering Individual Action and Policy Reform CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

More than 1.3 million children in the United States are unsheltered — and for many of them, a pair of new athletic shoes is not a given but a barrier, to school attendance, to sports participation, to the simple feeling of belonging. Amy Fass, Executive Director of Shoes That Fit, joins Care More Be Better as the domestic companion to the earlier Because International conversation, bringing the lens of childhood shoe insecurity home. She and host Corinna Bellizzi explore what new shoes actually do for a child's self-esteem, the stories of children transformed by something as simple as a name-brand sneaker, the antiquated federal poverty line that leaves millions uncounted, and how to make a concrete difference when the scale feels overwhelming. Chapter Markers 00:00 — Introduction: The Domestic Companion to The Shoe That Grows 04:00 — How Shoes That Fit Works: Schools, Partners, and the Model 10:00 — The Girl with the Box: 'I've Never Had New Shoes Before' 16:00 — Why Name Brands Matter: Self-Esteem and Belonging 22:00 — The Physical Cost of Ill-Fitting Shoes: Injuries, Attendance, and Barriers to Sport 28:00 — 1.3 Million Unsheltered Children and the Antiquated Poverty Line 34:00 — Corporate Partnerships: Nordstrom, Rack Room, GEICO, and On Running 40:00 — The 2025 Challenge: Tariffs, Shoe Donations, and the Donor Base That Stepped Up 46:00 — Building for Scale: Warehouse Model, Distribution, and the Waitlist 52:00 — Leadership Lessons: Resilience, Burnout, and Investing in People 58:00 — Advice for Aspiring Nonprofit Founders: Listen First 64:00 — Closing: Find One Concrete Thing and Do It Resources Amy Fass on LinkedIn Shoes That Fit — shoesthatfit.org Shoes That Fit on LinkedIn @shoesthatfitcharity on Instagram @shoesthatfitcharity on TikTok Shoes That Fit on X Nordstrom — Shoes That Fit partnership Rack Room Shoes On Running Because International — Ep. 289 (previous episode) Godfrey Coker — previous episode Lydiah Kemunto Bosire, 8B Education — previous episode The Grapes of Wrath — John Steinbeck Donate to Shoes That Fit: shoesthatfit.org CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Do you know that your body possesses its own innate repair system through the power of regenerative medicine? Stem cell scientist and neurophysiologist Christian Drapeau, MSc joins the show to explore this fascinating topic and how ancient plants can support your body's natural ability to heal. Christian, who is the founder of the supplement company Stemregen and author of the book Cracking the Stem Cell Code, shares his groundbreaking research on how specific plant extracts can naturally stimulate the release of your own stem cells. We explore the paradigm shift in longevity science and how optimizing your innate repair system could change the way we approach health, aging, and disease recovery. Health Disclaimer Stemregen is a dietary supplement. Nothing in this episode constitutes medical advice or claims to treat, diagnose, or cure any disease. Stemregen supports the body's natural processes. Always consult a qualified healthcare provider before beginning any new supplement. Corinna Bellizzi is not affiliated with Stemregen. COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/the-body-as-a-repair-machine-a-deep-dive-into-stem-cells-and-regenerative-medicine-with-christian-drapeau-msc/ About Guest: Christian Drapeau, MSc is a stem cell scientist, neurophysiologist, medicinal plant explorer, and best-selling author with 35+ years in medical research. He was among the first scientists to propose in published literature that stem cells are the body's innate repair system - a paradigm shift now reshaping regenerative medicine and longevity science. Driven by that discovery, Christian has traveled the world studying ancient plants that naturally support the body's ability to release and deploy its own stem cells. He has lectured in 50+ countries, authored five books, including Cracking the Stem Cell Code, and is the Founder and Chief Science Officer of STEMREGEN. His work bridges rigorous science with nature's intelligence, making regeneration accessible to everyone. Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/christian-drapeau Guest Website: https://stemregen.co | https://www.francisbrothers.com/ Guest Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/stemcellchristian/ Guest TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@stemcellchristian Guest YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@stemregen Additional Resources Mentioned: BOOK: Cracking the Stem Cell Code by Christian Drapwau, MSc Chapter Markers for Key Topics: 00:00 - Stem Cells: The Body's Natural Defense 05:46 - Debunking The Myths Of Stem Cell Research 09:37 - Understanding The Body’s Innate Repair System 16:41 - Healing Injuries: Injections Vs. Natural Stimulation 24:56 - Ethical Sourcing And The Future Of Plant-Based Medicine 34:37 - Measuring Stem Cell Migration And Healing 44:33 - The Economy Of Health: Regenerating The Human Body CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Zach and Jason Francis have spent their careers proving that doing more with less is not a constraint — it's a philosophy — from a nine-month sailing trip from San Diego to Australia to building tiny homes on HGTV's Tiny Luxury to Willo, an AI platform that takes a business idea from concept to live website in under ten minutes. The brothers join Care More Be Better to share what 21 days at sea taught them about complexity, why ideas die in spreadsheets, how AI agents work like bees in a hive, and how to use AI as a tool that empowers rather than replaces the human behind the vision. Chapter Markers 00:00 — Introduction: The Through Line from Tiny Homes to AI Agents 05:00 — Building with a Sibling: Trust, Security, and the Ability to Argue Without Fragility 12:00 — The Sailing Trip: 21 Days at Sea and What You Actually Need 18:00 — Tiny Luxury to Willo: The Philosophy Was Always the Same 24:00 — Complexity Kills: Getting from Zero to One 30:00 — What Willo Actually Does: From Idea to Live Website in 8-10 Minutes 38:00 — The Seven Agent System: Proactive vs. Reactive AI 44:00 — How Willo Differs from Claude, ChatGPT, and Agentic Tools 50:00 — AI Energy Footprint: Stewardship Over Avoidance 56:00 — The Beehive: How Nature Informs Willo's Agent Design 62:00 — Pricing, Roadmap, and What's Next for Willo COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/from-ideas-to-income-with-ai-zach-and-jason-francis/ About Guests: Brothers Zach and Jason Francis are serial entrepreneurs, builders, and prior hosts of the straight-to-series reality HGTV TV show Tiny Luxury. Over the years, they have built, acquired, and invested in companies spanning real estate, media, software, and artificial intelligence. Their mission is to make entrepreneurship more accessible by simplifying the process of building and growing a business. As the founders of Willo, they are helping a new generation of entrepreneurs turn ideas into real businesses with the power of AI. Beyond business, Zach and Jason are real estate developers, AI investors, beekeepers, sailors, adventurers, and family men who are passionate about creating meaningful companies, exploring new opportunities, and helping others build lives and businesses on their own terms. Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zach-francis-750200157/ | https://www.linkedin.com/in/jason-francis7/ Guest Website: https://willo.ai | https://www.francisbrothers.com/ Guest Socials: https://www.youtube.com/@buildwithwillo | https://x.com/BuildwithWillo | https://www.facebook.com/buildwithwillo/ Additional Resources Mentioned: Scary Smart by Mo Gawdat CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

This is a bonus episode. Back on Juneteenth, we shared Episode 1 of Angela Glover Blackwell's Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life. Last Wednesday, you heard our full conversation with Angela. Today, we're closing that loop with Chapter 6, the final episode of Season 1: Hope Is a Discipline. Angela and choreographer Ana Maria Alvarez explore how art moves a place, and a country, from resistance to creation, with stops along the way for joy, honest pushback on whether LA is really "the model," and a reminder from Mariame Kaba that hope has to be practiced, not just felt. Season 2, focused on Georgia, is out now. Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life is a podcast created by PolicyLink in partnership with Pineapple Street Studios. Chapter Markers 00:00 — Cold open: Charles White's mural and Angela's reflection on Black artists in the fight for democracy 03:32 — Show intro: welcome to Chapter 6, Hope Is a Discipline 07:17 — Ana Maria Alvarez on Contra-Tiempo Activist Dance Theater and art as resistance 09:15 — Intergenerational organizing: Ana Maria's parents and the village that built PolicyLink 10:33 — Resistance as a healthy democratic practice, the salsa metaphor 12:53 — Joy as fuel for the movement, adrienne maree brown and Pleasure Activism 15:25 — Is LA the model? Denise Fairchild's honest pushback 16:31 — Manuel Pastor: "a thing of beauty with our friends" 17:35 — Anthony Thigpen: standing at the brink 18:30 — 2024, the biggest global election year in history 21:00 — Hope is a discipline, the Mariame Kaba idea 22:07 — Justin Jones and Justin Pearson: expelled, reinstated, undeterred 23:17 — Fight for 15, ROC United, and the New Georgia Project with Nse Ufot 25:58 — Closing reflection and Shanaka Hodge's poem 27:22 — Angela's closing charge, credits, and a call to vote Resources & Links Follow Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life: wherever you listen to podcasts! Season 2: Georgia is available now: https://www.policylink.org/resources/podcasts Learn more about PolicyLink: https://www.policylink.org/ Listen to our full interview with Angela Glover Blackwell (Episode 294): https://caremorebebetter.com/reimagining-democracy-with-angela-glover-blackwell/ Revisit our Juneteenth share of Episode 1: Los Angeles: https://caremorebebetter.com/juneteenth-feature-angela-glover-blackwells-reimagining-democracy-for-a-good-life-episode-1-los-angeles/ Questions or reflections? Email [email protected] CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Are you tired of feeling helpless about our growing global garbage crisis? Host Corinna Bellizzi sits down with Tom Szaky, the visionary founder and CEO of TerraCycle and Loop, to discuss why we must start Rethinking Waste. Szaky explains how his companies are transforming hard-to-recycle items, like cigarette butts and dirty diapers, into valuable resources. They unpack how the modern concept of disposability has failed us and why a circular economy is the target for sustainable social impact. You'll discover how the chess pieces of business and policy must align to drive scalable, real-world change. This eye-opening discussion will challenge you to reconsider everything you buy and throw away. COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/nature-has-no-concept-of-waste-tom-szaky-on-terracycle-loop-eliminating-disposability/ About Guest: Tom Szaky is founder and CEO of TerraCycle, a global leader in the collection and repurposing of complex waste streams. TerraCycle operates in 20 countries, working with some of the world’s largest brands, retailers and manufacturers to create national platforms to recycle products and packaging that otherwise go to landfill or incineration. It also created a new circular reuse platform called Loop that enables consumers to purchase products in reusable packaging. Tom and TerraCycle have received hundreds of awards and recognition from organizations including the United Nations, World Economic Forum, Fortune Magazine and U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Tom is the author of four books, Revolution in a Bottle, Outsmart Waste, Make Garbage Great and The Future of Packaging. Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomszaky/ Guest Website: https://www.terracycle.com/en-US/ Additional Resources Mentioned: BOOK: Regeneration: Ending the Climate Crisis in One Generation: https://amzn.to/4gwCXIE BOOK: Carbon: The Book of Life: https://amzn.to/4kQi9xL Time Stamps: 00:58 00:00 - Why True Change Starts With Natural Capitalism 05:10 02:45 - The Hidden Cost Of An Unsexy Utility 08:11 05:30 - Flipping The Economics Of Trash On Its Head 07:37 09:40 - Surviving The Scrutiny Of The System 13:18 13:15 - The Logistics Of Sorting The Unsortable 34:36 17:50 - Designing For Reuse In A Convenient World 52:16 23:20 - Democratizing Capital For A Cleaner Future BUILD A GREENER FUTURE with CARE MORE BE BETTER: Together, we planted 36,044 trees in 2025 through our partnership with ForestPlanet. We screamed past our goal of planting 20,000 trees thanks to subscribers like you! CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner — Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Follow us on social media: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.

Democracy isn't just something we vote for once every few years, it's something we build together, in our neighborhoods, city halls, and everyday relationships. Corinna Bellizzi is joined by Angela Glover Blackwell, founder of PolicyLink and host of Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life, who has spent more than 50 years working at the intersection of racial equity, housing, and civic life. Angela reflects on how growing up during segregation shaped her understanding of community and leadership, explains why she defines democracy as "co-governance for human flourishing," and makes the case that America may be ready for a third founding. She also shares how tools like civic assemblies and participatory budgeting can restore civic life, and why joy has to remain at the center of any vision for real change. COMPLETE BLOG & TRANSCRIPT: https://caremorebebetter.com/reimagining-democracy-with-angela-glover-blackwell About Guest: Angela Glover Blackwell has spent over 50 years working at the intersection of racial equity, housing, and civic life. As the founder of PolicyLink and host of the podcast Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life, she provides a roadmap for rebuilding our communities. In this episode, we discuss why true democracy requires co-governance and active participation from every citizen. We explore how to cultivate joy in our activism and why local leadership is the key to national change. You'll learn how to navigate the complexities of our changing demographics while building a future where everyone can reach their full potential. Guest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/angela-glover-blackwell  Guest Website: https://policylink.org Guest Social: https://www.youtube.com/policylink  PODCAST: Reimagining Democracy for a Good Life On PolicyLink.com On Spotify On Apple Podcasts Chapter Markers 00:00 — Introduction: Bioneers, PolicyLink, and Reimagining Democracy 05:45 — Early Lessons in Segregation and Resilience: Growing Up in 1950s St. Louis 12:30 — Founding PolicyLink: Bridging Community Work and National Policy 18:15 — Recreating Civic Life: Civic Assemblies, Participatory Budgeting, and Mutual Aid 26:40 — Democracy as Co-Governance for Human Flourishing 33:00 — The Third Founding: Why the Nation's Mechanisms Have Outgrown Themselves 38:00 — Joy in Activism: Adrienne Maree Brown and What Los Angeles Taught Angela 44:10 — Patience, Impatience, and Why We Must Stop Being Nostalgic for a Time That Never Was 50:00 — Season 2 of Reimagining Democracy: Atlanta, the Curb Cut Effect, and Hartsfield-Jackson 58:00 — Hope Is a Discipline: Answering the Listener Who Has Lost Faith 64:00 — The Third Founding, Future Cities, and What Comes Next BUILD A GREENER FUTURE with CARE MORE BE BETTER: Together, we planted 36,044 trees in 2025 through our partnership with ForestPlanet. We screamed past our goal of planting 20,000 trees thanks to subscribers like you! CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner — Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Follow Care More Be Better on social media: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CONNECT & SUPPORT CARE MORE BE BETTER Substack: https://caremorebebetter.substack.com YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/caremorebebetter TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@caremorebebetter Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/caremorebebetter Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/CareMoreBeBetter LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/care-more-be-better CAUSE PARTNER: If you value open dialogue, sustainability, and social equity, I invite you to support our new cause partner —Prescott College. To learn more about this effort and to support the show, visit: https://caremorebebetter.com/support/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.