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This episode is not about winning an argument. It is about people. Jonathan and Eric wrestle with how Christians talk about authority, obedience, and scripture when real people are caught in the middle. The conversation is sparked by the killing of Renee Good during an ICE operation, and by how quickly many Christians reached for Romans 13 to shut down grief, questions, and moral discomfort. At the center of this episode is a simple but difficult conviction: every person is made in the image of God. We talk about how scripture gets used to protect power instead of holding it accountable, why “just comply” is not a Christian ethic, and the tension between law and justice, order and mercy, and consequences and dignity. We also name the exhaustion that comes from watching fellow believers defend systems while ignoring the human cost. If you have ever felt like you are losing your mind watching these conversations unfold, you are not alone. If you have wondered whether there is a faithful way to care about law and borders without losing your humanity, this episode is for you. _________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.com/jonathan_carone https://www.threads.com/ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Most of us were taught to see Christmas through the lens of Easter: Jesus was born to die for our sins so we could all go to heaven. The whole story points to the cross. While that is true, it is not the whole picture. So we ask a different question in this episode: What were people celebrating before anyone knew how the story would end? We talk about the good news Jesus announced from the start: Hope for the poor. Freedom for the oppressed. Comfort for the brokenhearted. A new kind of kingdom for people who were tired of carrying heavy burdens. This episode is the side of Christmas many of us never heard growing up, and our hope is it changes the way you see Christmas this year. If you want to believe there is still something good in the middle of all of *this* - this episode is for you. The arrival of Jesus was never only about what would happen later. It was also about what he brought with him the moment he showed up. Restoration. Hope. A place to belong. Christ is born for you. Merry Christmas everybody. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.com/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.com/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

It has been eight months since our last episode, and a lot has happened. Jonathan and Eric sit down to talk honestly about why the break happened, how the last year has shifted their relationship with the church, and why speaking about faith in public has felt heavier than ever. This conversation sits in the tension between loving the church and calling it out. We talk about grief, frustration, Christian nationalism, worship songs that hit different now, the fear of saying the wrong thing in the wrong place, and what it means to represent Jesus when the loudest voices in the American church feel so far from him. Most of all, we talk about the people who feel stuck in the middle. The ones who still believe in Jesus but do not recognize the version of Christianity around them. The ones trying to love their neighbors when their churches are cheering for ICE raids and political power. The ones who wonder if they are the only ones who feel this way. If that is you, this episode is for you. You are not alone. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.com/jonathan_carone https://www.threads.com/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Less than 5% of podcasts make it to 100 episodes. So forgive us if we take a minute to celebrate getting to this milestone. In our super self-indulgent 100th episode, we take a look back at the impact our show has made in the lives of listeners over the last four years. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI notice: our outro was created with Suno using AI The intro theme song is used with permission from the artist. It's High School by 90's Kids. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We truly believe Christians can follow Jesus together while disagreeing on how we apply our faith to politics. We even believe we can disagree with respect and dignity. But what's happening in our current culture is making it hard to love some of our neighbors around us. And while it's the politics that we see on the surface, it's the outright mean-spirited nature driving those politics and the rhetoric around them that makes it so hard to love those neighbors. This week we have an honest conversation about where we stand, why it's so hard to love them, and what it looks like moving forward in this climate. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. Our intro/outro music was created using AI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Cancers usually grow inside you without you noticing they’re there. You often don’t even know they exist until it’s a major issue. That’s American individualism within the evangelical church. In today's Evangelical Culture, many would see the Gospel-inspired collectivism of Acts 2 as socialism. We are at the point where the literal Pope had to speak up because American Christians were trying to redefine what loving your neighbor meant into a more individualist view. This week we talk about how that's impacted the church as a whole and how even the most aware people have to take part in the blame. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI Notice: our intro/outro music was made with Suno using AI Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

If we're honest, Jesus didn't make this easy for us. There were things he did and didn't do that make following him harder. There are things he still does today that don't necessarily make sense or feel good. We're still going to choose to follow him despite those things, but if we're going to have an authentic relationship with him, we have to at least admit those things exist. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI Notice - our intro/outro music was made by Suno using AI Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We hear a lot about thoughts and prayers in our culture. But if we're honest, prayer alone isn't enough. The single biggest way God chooses to work on earth is through the action - alongside the prayers - of people. This week we talk about that reality along with how our prayer life should change the way we view the world as well as the things we care about. And we play this season's favorite game: What unChristian executive order or policy statement was said this week?! __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI notice - our intro/outro was made with Suno using AI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In the evangelical church - especially the version that's so overbearing today - we're taught we have to be in lock step with every position and not question any of them. After all, the Bible is clear about them all, right?! But that's not the way actual life and faith work. In reality, there are many theological positions I wish I was wrong about. In this episode, we get super honest – and only a little bit silly – about some of those positions. After all, faith is about trusting even when we don't get it, right? Jesus never said we had to like or agree with everything, only that we trust him. And we can trust him while hoping we're wrong. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI Notice - our intro/outro music is created by Suno using AI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Heads up before you press play: If you’re currently processing the loss of a loved one, this episode might not be for you.  To be completely transparent: this episode talks about death, dying, and losing family members. It also talks about the fears and anxieties we have around those issues as we grow older. The first 7-8 minutes or so includes some humor around death and dying, but if you can push past the immature bad jokes, there's also a really honest and candid conversation about how we know Heaven will be great, and we know one day with Jesus is better than 1,000 elsewhere, but if we're honest, we don't want to experience those things anytime soon. Hopefully you enjoy this week, but if it’s not for you, we totally get it and hope you’ll come back next week. PS - Jonathan is all good. Doc said it was mainly a formality and for genetic testing.  __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI Notice - our intro/outro is AI generated through Suno. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

To kick off Season 12, we're introducing a series of honest conversations we think people are feeling but aren't having starting with a simple idea: I'd trust Jesus a lot more if it didn't require trusting other Christians. We know we haven't been hurt by Jesus, but many of us have been hurt by other Christians. Sometimes that hurt was intentional, but more often than not it's been unintentional because people are, well, people. __________________ If you want to send in a story for our 100th episode, send them to [email protected] or to Jonathan on Instagram (instagram.com/jonathan_carone). __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI Notice - our intro/outro music was created using Suno. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

By every metric, the American Evangelical church is not in a healthy place. We've spent the last few months talking about how Cultural Christianity is killing the American church. So now we ask - can it even recover from Cultural Christianity? In this bonus episode, we talk about four things we believe are needed for the American Evangelical church to heal. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI notice - our intro/outro music was created using AI. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

So the election happened... And not too long after it, we saw the wave of social media posts deify Donald Trump as God's chosen savior of our country along with any number of messages filled with mean-spirited language about people who voted for Kamala Harris. If you're like us, that's left you feeling some sort of way. In this bonus episode recorded two days after the election, we talk through a framework of how we can process what we're feeling and move forward in the tensions between how we believe we should apply our faith to the culture around us and the way a large portion of the evangelical church has decided to apply theirs. PS - the whole episode can be summed up in the final 30-seconds. We think the entire thing is good, but fast forward there if you just want the cliff notes. __________________ Our definitions of cultural Christianity: Spiritually immature Christians who have been discipled more by evangelical culture than the actual Bible. and/or Christians who are more concerned with applying their Christian preferences to the culture than they are in achieving unity in Christ with those who may have different preferences. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

We’ve tried to stay fairly reserved all season, but this week some emotions came out that have been boiling under the surface. In this episode you’ll see two completely different views of how the rise of Donald Trump has impacted us when it comes to our Christian faith. Whether it’s the deification of the man, the hijacking of prophetic gifts, or how we view things overall, this episode shows how the current conservative political movement has hit both of us individually. You won’t agree with everything - and some of it might even be a turn-off for you - but this is our raw response to where we are in today’s climate. __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI Notice - we use AI for our intro/outro music. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

Did you know 1/3 of all adults who grew up in church but have since left said pastoral sex scandals played a significant role in their decision to leave? Over the past 15 years, we've seen cover up after cover up within the American church. And it's all for the same reason: churches were scared of losing their cultural influence if they fired the pastor who abused his position. This week we talk about how this has impacted evangelical culture, what a healthier approach would be, and what actual restoration looks like. Content warning: we do go into some details on a few of the scandals. If that's not content you would like to hear, we suggest you skip 8:52 - 12:57. 8:52 - discussion of scandals starts 12:57 - details are done, you can come back __________________ Follow us on social: http://instagram.com/jonathan_carone http://instagram.com/ericw712 https://www.threads.net/@jonathan_carone https://www.threads.net/@ericw712 __________________ Tension was called Unlearning Youth Group for the first six seasons. AI notice - our theme song is AI generated using Suno. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.