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Pete and Chad ask each other questions about a set of 6 players whose early draft values have us wondering.

Keep or Kut Chad and Pete take keeper questions live from PitchCon 2024.

A deeper look at how to value keepers in draft leagues.

All things first year auctions.

We take a look at NFBC ADP to find guys you should be drafting in your keeper leagues. At these prices, these players are well situated to be on your team for multiple years.

Reviewing the recent Ottoneu mock auction

Keep or Kut - Chad (@chadyoung [https://twitter.com/chadyoung]) is joined by two guests to talk inflation in keeper leagues. Justin Vibber [https://www.patreon.com/vibbot], creator of the Ottoneu Surplus Calculator, and Adam Scharf [https://ko-fi.com/blueshoes], who recently wrote a paper on inflation [http://docs.google.com/document/d/1PP-fMlnns7ZTABVA2ebc1ZEjET5HWScnYfyElTFVg34/edit] in Ottoneu, go from 101 (what is inflation and how does it impact leagues) to some more nuanced discussion of how thinking on inflation needs to evolve so we can be smarter fantasy players. Join Pitcher List Plus [https://pitcherlist.com/plus/] and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 8:10 - What is inflation and how does it impact both auctions and drafts in keeper leagues? 14:57 - Inflation can change who you think about as a keeper. 27:12 - The benefits and risks of trying to predict what your leaguemates will do. 37:13 - The risk of over- vs underestimating inflation. 44:29 - Adam recaps his paper and discusses the implications if we are under-calculating inflation. 58:19 - Is there an inflation curve across the value spectrum? Subscribe: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/keep-or-kut/id1551885984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6RoNfxNKUjmQu3RkPC9gCi?si=aDxAWx20SryYPvbXAeQl3w&utm_source=copy-link] | Stitcher [https://www.stitcher.com/show/keep-or-kut] | TuneIn [https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Keep-or-Kut-p1405564/] | Google Podcasts [https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9vbW55LmZtL3Nob3dzL2tlZXAtb3Ita3V0LXBvZGNhc3QvcGxheWxpc3RzL3BvZGNhc3QucnNz?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwid_7Wbl-31AhXkBkQIHWptBSoQ9sEGegQIARAC] | RSS [https://omny.fm/shows/keep-or-kut-podcast/playlists/podcast.rss] Connect: Twitter [https://twitter.com/keeporkut] | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+ [https://pitcherlist.com/plus/] Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus [https://pitcherlist.com/plus]

Keep or Kut / On The Corner Nick Pollack reviews Chad Young's 2024 Mock Draft. Chad picked from the 12th spot in this draft Head to factormeals.com/kork50 and use code KORK50 to get 50% off [https://www.factormeals.com/pen50] Full Draft Board [https://clickydraft.com/draftapp/board/256060] "League" info: Standard Yahoo H2H Category 5x5 scoring format 12-teamer, 23 rounds C, 1B, 2B, 3B, SS, 3 OF, 2 UTIL, 9 P, 4 Bench One-Way Ohtani (two separate players for DH and SP) Chad's picks: 1 - Shohei Ohtani (Hitter) 2 - Spencer Strider 3 - Bo Bichette 4 - Zac Gallen 5 - Matt McLain 6 - Jordan Walker 7 - Eury Perez 8 - Emmanuel Clase 9 - Josh Naylor 10 - Riley Greene 11 - Jorge Soler 12 - Alexis Diaz 13 - Shane Bieber 14 - Wyatt Langford 15 - Isaac Paredes 16 - Kyle Harrison 17 - Braxton Garrett 18 - Kenley Jansen 19 - Trevor Rogers 20 - Ricky Tiedemann 21 - Justin Turner 22 - Esteury Ruiz 23 - Francisco Alvarez Hosts: Nick Pollack [https://twitter.com/PitcherList] | Chad Green [https://twitter.com/chadyoung] Producer: Adam Howe Subscribe: Apple | Spotify | Amazon | Google | RSS Join: PL+ | PL Pro [https://www.pitcherlist.com/premium/] Proud member of the Pitcher List Podcast Network [https://twitter.com/PitcherListPods]

Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) dive into Ottoneu arbitration. They go through the three leagues they compete against each other and look at who has received arbitration allocations that they wouldn't have expected. From prospects being hit too early in their careers to pitchers and the additional risk they carry, there are some good lessons about how to allocate your arbitration, as well. Join Pitcher List Plus [https://www.pitcherlist.com/plus/] and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 6:25 - Starting with the Podcasters League (1443), we are looking at Cole Ragans [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/cole-ragans/] 15:15 - CJ Abrams [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/cj-abrams/] had a bigger breakout than Chad realized. 20:09 - Are we ready to push up the salary on Elly de la Cruz [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/elly-de-la-cruz]? 31:45 - Moving to the Keep or Kut listeners league (1372) and feeling good about Triston Casas [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/triston-casas]. 35:43 - But not as good about Jackson Holliday [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/jackson-holliday] getting $6. 48:10 - Finishing up with the FanGraphs Staff League (13) which had fewer surprises but did feature some pitchers - Pablo López [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/pablo-lopez], George Kirby [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/george-kirby/], Kyle Bradish [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/kyle-bradish] - getting pushed Subscribe: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/keep-or-kut/id1551885984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6RoNfxNKUjmQu3RkPC9gCi?si=aDxAWx20SryYPvbXAeQl3w&utm_source=copy-link] | Stitcher [https://www.stitcher.com/show/keep-or-kut] | TuneIn [https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Keep-or-Kut-p1405564/] | Google Podcasts [https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9vbW55LmZtL3Nob3dzL2tlZXAtb3Ita3V0LXBvZGNhc3QvcGxheWxpc3RzL3BvZGNhc3QucnNz?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwid_7Wbl-31AhXkBkQIHWptBSoQ9sEGegQIARAC] | RSS [https://omny.fm/shows/keep-or-kut-podcast/playlists/podcast.rss] Connect: Twitter [https://twitter.com/keeporkut] | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+ [https://www.pitcherlist.com/plus/] Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus [https://pitcherlist.com/plus]

Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) break down the PitcherList mock that they are in the middle of, viewing it from a keeper league perspective despite it being drafted as a re-draft league. Interested in playing in this league? Let one of the hosts know! We have a few spots open for next season. Join Pitcher List Plus [https://www.pitcherlist.com/plus/] and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 11:55 - After discussing how their respective fantasy seasons ended up, Chad and Pete start discussing the PL Mock 2024. Click here to see the Draft Board. [https://clickydraft.com/draftapp/board/256060] 15:01 - Pete breaks down his start to the draft after taking Matt Olson [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/matt-olson/] 10th overall and José Ramírez [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/jose-ramirez/] 15th. Does the top of drafts in 2024 look deeper than ever before? 19:00 - Chad selected the 12th pick to lock up two of the top 13 players. He went with Shohei Ohtani [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/shohei-ohtani/] (hitter) and Spencer Strider [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/spencer-strider/]. 22:53 - Chad took Zac Gallen [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/zac-gallen/] over Zack Wheeler [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/zack-wheeler/], Luis Castillo [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/luis-castillo/], and Corbin Burnes [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/corbin-burnes/]. Was that the right move? Drafting pitching for 2024 looks to be a bit of a headache. 32:58 - Where are we at with Vladimir Guerrero Jr. [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/vladimir-guerrero-jr/] after his... fine (?) 2023? 38:33 - Who would you prefer to have a better price on in a keeper league: Jordan Walker [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/jordan-walker/] or Matt McLain [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/matt-mclain/]? 56:30 - Is Spencer Torkelson [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/spencer-torkelson/] that different from Christian Walker [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/christian-walker/]? How does he stack up against Guerrero Jr., Walker, and Paul Goldschmidt [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/paul-goldschmidt/]? 1:16:15 - Is attacking ace starting pitching early in drafts the right move for 2024? Subscribe: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/keep-or-kut/id1551885984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6RoNfxNKUjmQu3RkPC9gCi?si=aDxAWx20SryYPvbXAeQl3w&utm_source=copy-link] | Stitcher [https://www.stitcher.com/show/keep-or-kut] | TuneIn [https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Keep-or-Kut-p1405564/] | Google Podcasts [https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9vbW55LmZtL3Nob3dzL2tlZXAtb3Ita3V0LXBvZGNhc3QvcGxheWxpc3RzL3BvZGNhc3QucnNz?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwid_7Wbl-31AhXkBkQIHWptBSoQ9sEGegQIARAC] | RSS [https://omny.fm/shows/keep-or-kut-podcast/playlists/podcast.rss] Connect: Twitter [https://twitter.com/keeporkut] | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+ [https://www.pitcherlist.com/plus/] Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus [https://pitcherlist.com/plus]

Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) tentatively pick their keepers in the Keep or Kut Ottoneu listener league. The league is FanGraphs 4x4. Interested in playing in this league? Let one of the hosts know! We have a few spots open for next season. Join Pitcher List Plus [https://www.pitcherlist.com/plus/] and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 7:24 - Pete declares some of his intentions as it comes to his keepers. It was a tough year building a rotation around Triston McKenzie [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/triston-mckenzie/], Max Scherzer [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/max-scherzer/], Cristian Javier [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/cristian-javier/], Robbie Ray [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/robbie-ray/], and Tony Gonsolin [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/tony-gonsolin/]. So, he is excited to keep cheap Tyler Glasnow [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/tyler-glasnow/], Tanner Bibee [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/tanner-bibee/], and a few others. 32:08 - As for his outfield... is a $23 Christian Yelich [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/christian-yelich/] worth keeping? What about a $4 Sal Frelick [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/sal-frelick/]? 38:04 - The breakdown of Chad's keeper situation begins. Like Pete, Chad plans to (most likely) clean house with his bullpen. His starting pitching is mostly being kept, but what do we do with a $5 Josiah Gray [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/josiah-gray/]?  51:37 - Chad has a great problem at catcher: $14 Willson Contreras [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/willson-contreras/], $2 Ethan Salas [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/ethan-salas/], $3 Logan O'Hoppe, and a $1 Bo Naylor [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/bo-naylor/]. Later on they discuss Rhys Hoskins [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/rhys-hoskins/] and his potential worth, as well as whether or not they feel comfortable going into 2024 with Jordan Lawlar [https://www.pitcherlist.com/player/jordan-lawlar/] as their starting shortstop.  Subscribe: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/keep-or-kut/id1551885984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6RoNfxNKUjmQu3RkPC9gCi?si=aDxAWx20SryYPvbXAeQl3w&utm_source=copy-link] | Stitcher [https://www.stitcher.com/show/keep-or-kut] | TuneIn [https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Keep-or-Kut-p1405564/] | Google Podcasts [https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9vbW55LmZtL3Nob3dzL2tlZXAtb3Ita3V0LXBvZGNhc3QvcGxheWxpc3RzL3BvZGNhc3QucnNz?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwid_7Wbl-31AhXkBkQIHWptBSoQ9sEGegQIARAC] | RSS [https://omny.fm/shows/keep-or-kut-podcast/playlists/podcast.rss] Connect: Twitter [https://twitter.com/keeporkut] | keeporkut@gmail.com | Join PL+ [https://www.pitcherlist.com/plus/] Get PL+ and join our Discord: https://pitcherlist.com/plus [https://pitcherlist.com/plus] Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices [https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices]

Keep or Kut - Pete (@PeteBBaseball) and Chad (@chadyoung) are starting to look at off-season decisions, including their keeper choices in their Keep or Kut listener leagues. They go over some of their toughest choices, analyzing players who will force difficult decisions in the coming months. Join Pitcher List Plus [https://www.pitcherlist.com/plus/] and get an ad-free website and access to the Pitcher List Discord community, while supporting the podcast. Timestamps 1:02 - Before looking at the off-season, a quick look at the stretch run and fantasy playoff matchups, where Chad has to pick two of Hyun-jin Ryu, Nick Pivetta, and Gavin Williams to start. 12:30 - Time to turn our attention to keepers. 14:12 - Starting with Chad's League 1 Roster [https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/league/o0xec2plla8esspa/team/roster;teamId=ta5rvfxdla8essq0], and his four most obvious keepers: Tyler Glasnow, Michael Harris II, Tanner Bibee, and Spencer Steer. 19:26 - At one point, Luis Robert Jr. was one of those obvious keepers, even for a 2nd rounder, but is he now? 22:42 - Masataka Yoshida is causing the same kind of issue later in the draft. 28:51 - Pete's obvious league 1 keepers [https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/league/o0xec2plla8esspa/team/roster;teamId=kjp2pijqla8essqi] are George Kirby for 26th, Devin Williams for 15th, Francisco Alvarez for 14th, and that leads us to the saga of Chas McCormick. 35:32 - Piling up last-round keepers forces some interesting decisions. 38:24 - Is the talent enough to justify keeping Mason Miller? 42:42 - How cheap is cheap enough for Kris Bryant? Plus Pete has some fun rookies and another interesting closer in Kyle Harrison, Evan Carter, and Camilo Doval. 48:30 - In League 2, Chad [https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/league/6qe1rqc1l9oji7jj/team/roster;teamId=wcvbygx7l9oji7k7] is already thinking about what pick he wants, as it impacts the value on keeping Mookie Betts in the first. 54:44 - And that impacts some other tough calls at MI in Ezequiel Tovar, Andres Gimenez, Thairo Estrada, Xander Bogaerts, Justin Turner, and Zach Neto  1:01:40 - Meanwhile, Chad's minor leaguers are a debacle 1:09:47 - Pete's team [https://www.fantrax.com/fantasy/league/6qe1rqc1l9oji7jj/team/roster;teamId=pwccyv2fl9oji7k4] starting has Oneil Cruz (as does his team in league 1), but what is a good keeper cost for Cruz? 1:13:27 - Grayson Rodriguez is one of Pete's favorite keepers 1:21:53 - Pete's insane pitching upside might force a trade for offense 1:24:23 - Pete's minor league decisions on Gavin Williams, Pete Crow-Armstrong, Termarr Johnson, Kyle Manzardo, and Robert Hassel III, plus a really tough call on Anthony Volpe. Subscribe: Apple Podcasts [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/keep-or-kut/id1551885984] | Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/6RoNfxNKUjmQu3RkPC9gCi?si=aDxAWx20SryYPvbXAeQl3w&utm_source=copy-link] | Stitcher [https://www.stitcher.com/show/keep-or-kut] | TuneIn [https://tunein.com/podcasts/Sports--Recreation-Podcasts/Keep-or-Kut-p1405564/] | Google Podcasts [https://podcasts.google.com/feed/aHR0cHM6Ly9vbW55LmZtL3Nob3dzL2tlZXAtb3Ita3V0LXBvZGNhc3QvcGxheWxpc3RzL3BvZGNhc3QucnNz?sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwid_7Wbl-31AhXkBkQIHWptBSoQ9sEGegQIARAC] | RSS [https://omny.fm/shows/keep-or-kut-podcast/playlists/podcast.rss] Connect: Twitter [https://twitter.com/keeporkut] |