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Beyond the Norm Endings, Transitions, and the Courage to Rise A podcast for those navigating endings and standing at the edge of change. Norma O’Kelly guides you through life’s transitions with systemic insight, real stories, and the courage it takes to rise into your next chapter. 🎧 Listen, share & subscribe! 🌍 normaokelly.com | 📸 Insta : @normaokellysystemiccoach | 📺 YouTube; Beyond the Norm
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The Responsible One: Why Carrying Everyone Keeps You Stuck (Rescuer, People Pleasing & Burnout)
2026/09/15
You're not exhausted because you care too much. You're exhausted because you've been the responsible one, the rescuer, the one everyone leans on, for far too long.
I'm Norma O'Kelly, systemic coach and constellations practitioner, and in this episode I explore how the responsible role drives people pleasing and burnout, and why it quietly blocks change when you're ready to start a business, retrain, or step into a new season of life. It isn't only the eldest daughter.
The responsible one can be any child in the family. My own mother was the youngest.
You'll discover:• How the Drama Triangle (rescuer, victim, persecutor) keeps you going in circles• Why rescuing often hides a deeper need to be needed• How family systems and inherited loyalties shape what you carry• Why learning to receive is essential, not indulgent• Small shifts from helpful to useful, and from rescuing to coaching
I share my own story of overgiving and how family constellations helped me see the role I took on in my family of origin. I also offer simple somatic practices, like the pause and the physiological sigh, to help you notice where responsibility sits in your body.
This autumn, put down what was never yours to carry and make room for something new.
If this episode spoke to you, I'd love it if you'd rate and review the podcast. It really helps other people find it. And if someone in your life is always the one carrying everything, share this with them.
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Signs, Coincidences & What Your Heart Already Knows
2026/05/05
Signs, Coincidences & What the Heart Already Knows
Have you ever thought of someone and they rang you five minutes later? Seen the same thing appear again and again at exactly the moment you needed a nudge? Felt something shift in a room before a single word was spoken?
This episode is about all of that and the science, the folklore, and the lived experience that explains why it's anything but random.
We go into the world of signs and synchronicity through a systemic lens.. what the field is, how it speaks, and why most of us have stopped hearing it.
We bring in the Irish folklore of the Bóín Dé ( Ladybirds) and the magpie, the neuroscience of the Reticular Activating System, HeartMath research on heart coherence, and what quantum physics has to say about fields, attention, and connection.
And at the centre of it all ...Your Heart ❤️. Not as metaphor. As intelligence. When we live from the heart, when we slow down enough to get coherent, our outer world starts to reflect what our inner world is broadcasting. Signs become visible. Synchronicities multiply. Intuition sharpens. The field gets a word in.
This episode also holds space for those who have lost someone and for the sceptic who suspects there's more going on but hasn't had language for it yet. Both are welcome here.
Includes a live coherent breathing practice and spoke about the Two Bells track shared below. Please only do this in a safe, quiet space where you can fully relax seated or lying down.
Do not listen while driving, cycling, swimming, or operating machinery. If you feel light-headed at any point, simply return to your normal breathing rhythm.
KEYWORDS:
Signs, Coincidences, Heart Intelligence, Systemic Constellations, Signs from Loved Ones, Nature Symbols, Electromagnetic Field, Coherent Breathing, Intuition, Serendipitykey topics
Signs and symbols from nature and the universeThe science of heart intelligence and electromagnetic fieldsPractices for tuning into signs and intuitionThe role of systemic constellations in understanding unseen patternsPersonal stories of serendipity and signs from loved ones
Mentioned in this episode:
🎙️ Interview with Dr Tara Stewart on Signshttps://open.spotify.com/episode/4XNQDPEs7SZpzP6jdLhfbP
🎵 Two Bells — coherent breathing trackhttps://open.spotify.com/track/1vuf0jxcfB7Ry8qeSr7pBp?si=afba89a7a11a4e3a
Connect with Norma:
🌐 Website — visit for coaching, retreats, and everything Beyond the Normwww.normaokelly.com
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If this episode landed with you, please take a moment to rate, review, and subscribe it helps more people find their way here, and it genuinely matters.
Thank you so much for listening. From my heart to yours. 💜
8 Minute Pause for a Busy Mind | Breathwork to Calm the Nervous System
2026/03/05
This short guided breathwork practice is designed to help you slow down and return to yourself.
In eight minutes you will move through a gentle coherent breathing rhythm, a vagus nerve activating breath, and a grounding moment that brings your awareness back into your body and your heart.
This is the kind of practice I often guide clients through between meetings, before a difficult conversation, or at the end of a demanding day when the mind is busy and the body is carrying more than it should.
You don’t need any experience with meditation or breathwork. Just find a quiet place, sit comfortably, and follow the rhythm of the breath.
Sometimes the most supportive thing we can do is pause, breathe, and allow the nervous system to settle.
You can return to this practice anytime you need a moment to reconnect with yourself.
Please listen to this practice in a safe and comfortable environment.Do not listen while driving, cycling, swimming, or operating machinery.
If you feel light-headed at any point simply return to your normal breathing rhythm.
⚠️ Important Safety NotePlease do not listen while driving or operating machinery.This meditation is intended to be done lying down or seated in a safe, quiet space where you can fully relax.
💜 SAVE this meditation and come back to it whenever your mind is racing, your body feels tense, or sleep feels difficult.
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Norma 💜
20 min Gently Body Scan + Heart Coherence- Helps You Sleep deeply!
2026/01/25
Struggling to sleep or calm a racing mind?This 20-minute gentle body scan meditation with heart coherence is designed to help you relax deeply, settle your nervous system, and fall asleep naturally.
In this episode of Beyond The Norm, I guide you through a slow, grounding body scan and breathwork practice that helps you move out of mental overdrive and back into the body — where rest, safety, and sleep become possible.
This meditation is especially supportive if:
you can’t sleep
your mind won’t switch off at night
your body feels tense or wired
you’re feeling emotionally overloaded
you want a gentle way to fall asleep without forcing rest
We begin with calming, coherent breathing before moving through a full body scan — from the feet all the way up — inviting areas of tension to soften and release.We then spend time connecting with the heart centre, using heart coherence to support emotional regulation, safety, and deeper rest.
This practice is ideal:
before sleep
in bed at night
during periods of stress or anxiety
whenever your nervous system needs calming
Many people return to this meditation regularly to help them sleep more deeply and feel more grounded.
⚠️ Important Safety NotePlease do not listen while driving or operating machinery.This meditation is intended to be done lying down or seated in a safe, quiet space where you can fully relax.
💜 SAVE this meditation and come back to it whenever your mind is racing, your body feels tense, or sleep feels difficult.
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Transition Without Certainty? How to Take the Next Step
2026/01/25
In this episode of Beyond The Norm, I explore what it really means to be in transition, personally and professionally. I talk about why uncertainty, imperfection, and discomfort are not signs you’re doing it wrong, but natural parts of change.
I share practical ways to navigate transitions without panic or pressure, including how to stay present, focus on what you can control, and choose self-respect over fear when making decisions.
I also reflect on the impact of societal expectations, why they can keep us stuck, and how taking the next obvious step can restore a sense of agency when clarity isn’t available yet.
This episode is for anyone feeling unsettled, in between, or unsure what comes next and looking for a grounded, realistic way forward that doesn’t bypass the complexity of real life.
🔑 Keywords
transitions, navigating change, self-compassion, imperfection, personal growth, professional change, societal expectations, self-respect, uncertainty, next steps, staying present, leadership in transition, identity change
Please rate, review and share this episode to anyone who will benefit or need clarity in a transition.
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Big love Norma x
Navigating Self-Belief, Success & Authenticity with Vicky Shilling - A Beyond the Norm Podcast
2025/12/15
In this episode of Beyond The Norm, I’m joined by the wonderful Vicky Shilling. Vicky is a coach, author, mother, and honest voice in the entrepreneurial world.
We dive deep into the real emotional journey behind building a business: self-belief, self-doubt, identity, motherhood, privilege, ethics and what success really looks like when you peel back the pressure and perfectionism.
Vicky shares her transition from the music industry into coaching, the wobble of imposter syndrome, and how confidence rises and falls at every level of business. We talk openly about the Dunning-Kruger effect, coaching ethics, acknowledging privilege, and why radical honesty is essential for building a business and a life that actually feels good.
If you’ve ever struggled with confidence, felt like an imposter, or wondered whether you’re “doing enough,” this conversation will bring you truth, compassion and the reassurance that you are absolutely not alone.
A huge thank you to Vicky for her time, passion and sharing this inspiring interview!
Chapters:
00:00 — Introduction to Vicky Shilling02:52 — From the Music Industry to Health Coaching05:48 — Understanding Self-Belief in Entrepreneurship08:54 — Navigating Self-Doubt & Imposter Syndrome12:01 — Family, Approval & Identity15:05 — Ethics & Transparency in Coaching18:08 — Privilege & Power Dynamics in Business21:02 — Client Success Stories & Real Transformation24:07 — Motherhood Meets Entrepreneurship27:02 — Redefining Success Beyond Money29:48 — Authenticity & Honest Conversations32:52 — Closing Reflections
Key takeaways:
Self-belief shapes every stage of entrepreneurshipConfidence rises and falls naturally (and you’re not imagining it)The Dunning-Kruger effect explains early overconfidence + later self-doubtPrivilege and ethics matter deeply in the coaching spaceMotherhood requires a flexible, compassionate approach to businessVulnerability builds deeper client trust than perfection ever willReal success is personal, evolving, and deeply individual🔗 Connect with Vicky Shilling
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/vicky.shilling/?hl=enWebsite: https://vickyshilling.com/
Her Book 'Just start Now'; https://vickyshilling.com/book
Vicky’s Substack: https://vickyshilling.substack.com/
🔗 Connect with Me:
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/normaokellysystemiccoachLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/normaokelly/YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@normaokellytransitioncoachWebsite: https://www.normaokelly.com
Key words:
Vicky Shilling, self-belief, entrepreneurship, authenticity, coaching ethics, privilege in business, motherhood and business, self-doubt, imposter syndrome, business mindset, purpose-led business, entrepreneurial transformation, confidence in business, Beyond The Norm Podcast
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Till then Go Gently
How to Rebuild Your Purpose and Identity After Loss
2025/12/10
In this episode of Beyond The Norm, I’m diving into something we all face , the kind of loss that doesn’t just break your heart, but breaks your identity wide open. I talk about how loss doesn’t just take something from us… it takes a version of who we were. And in that space, we’re left wondering: Who am I now? What’s my purpose? What happens next?
I explore how grief can create a full-blown identity crisis, especially in midlife, when the roles we’ve played start slipping from our fingers.
I share what I’ve learned personally and professionally about navigating these endings, honouring them, and letting them reshape us rather than destroy us.
I also talk about how purpose often emerges in the rubble
not in spite of loss, but because of it. And I bring in one of my favourite tools, breathwork, as a way to regulate the nervous system, clear emotional debris, and reconnect to the parts of ourselves we thought were gone.
If you’ve felt lost, disconnected, foggy, or unsure who you are after a loss , whether it’s a relationship, a job, a dream, a home, or even an identity — this episode will help you understand what’s happening, why it’s happening, and how to move forward with intention and compassion.
Take AWAYS:
Loss isn’t a moment; it’s a continuum we learn to live with.
Grief often triggers a crisis of identity.
Purpose tends to reveal itself through loss, not before it.
Breathwork can anchor and heal when everything feels chaotic.
It’s essential to honour the endings in your life.
It’s okay to feel lost — it’s part of the rebirthing process.
Finding your tribe makes the journey lighter.
Your purpose evolves as you evolve.
You can rebuild yourself after loss — gently, slowly, truthfully.
Life’s hardest chapters often spark the deepest transformation.
loss, identity, purpose, grief, self-discovery, breathwork, healing, transformation, resilience, personal growth, identity after loss, how to find purpose after loss, rebuilding identity, grief and identity crisis, breathwork for healing, purpose after grief, midlife identity shift, spiritual awakening after loss
I mention Elizabeth Gilbert’s newest book about loss, All the Way to the River: Love, Loss, and Liberation.Here’s a link to more about it:https://www.hippocampusmagazine.com/2025/09/review-all-the-way-to-the-river-love-loss-and-liberation-by-elizabeth-gilbert/
Chapters:
00:00 — Navigating Loss and Change02:24 — Understanding Identity in Grief03:51 — The Fog of Grief08:30 — Finding Purpose Through Loss12:45 — The Journey of Self-Discovery17:59 — Rebuilding Identity After Loss24:21 — Breathwork as a Tool for Healing38:34 — Finding Your Tribe and New Desires
Key Quotes:
“Who am I now?”
“Your purpose is evolving.”
“Finding your tribe is key.”
“Loss asks us to rebuild who we are.”
“Purpose emerges when everything false falls away.”
Please rate, review and share with anyone else you know going through loss:
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What Nobody Tells You About Change - Beyond the Norm Podcast
2025/10/25
What Nobody tells you about Change:
In this episode of Beyond the Norm, I dive into the truth about change, not as a single moment, but as a living, breathing process.
We’ll talk about the grief that comes with letting go of old identities, the awkward middle ground where everything feels uncertain, and the quiet resilience it takes to grow through transition.
I explore how change ripples through our families, teams, and communities and how our loyalty to old patterns can sometimes keep us stuck. This is a conversation about resourcing yourself, honouring your emotions, and learning to feel safe in the unfamiliar.
Because change isn’t a failure; it’s the system reorganising itself for your next evolution.
Takeaways
Change isn’t a one-off event : it’s a continuous cycle of becoming. ( Quelle Surprise Norma ;)
Your identity evolves with every shift.
Grieving your old self is part of healthy growth.
The messy middle is normal — and necessary.
Fear is not the enemy; it’s information.
Resourcing yourself is the ultimate act of self-care.
Your change impacts — and liberates — the system around you.
Announcing
🌙 The Wintering Project launches this weekend on Norma's instagram stay tuned a soulful space to rest, reset, and re-imagine what’s next this Winter. Runs Nov 2025-Jan 2026👉 Join here and begin this Winter well!
I’m Norma O’Kelly, a systemic coach, marketing mentor and team facilitator based in Dublin. I help leaders, teams and seekers navigate the discomfort of change with depth, humour and heart.
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Building a Business with Passion: Kat's Vintage Shop Success Story
2025/06/20
In this episode of Beyond the Norm, I chat with Katrina Carroll, also known as Vintage Irish Kat. Kat takes us through her inspiring journey of transitioning from a beautician to a successful vintage shop owner. We dive into the emotional connections people have with secondhand clothing and how those stories shape the vintage shopping experience.
Kat shares how storytelling in fashion and personal branding plays a huge role in her business, plus the challenges and joys of entrepreneurship. We also discuss the importance of self-care and building resilience as a business owner, while recognising the value of community support.
From social media’s role in personal branding to the beauty of secondhand fashion, Kat’s insights are invaluable for anyone looking to build a business with heart and authenticity.
If you’re navigating a career change, working on your personal brand, or just love vintage fashion, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical tips.
Key Takeaways:
The Power of Career Transitions: My conversation with Kat illustrates how transitioning careers can lead to a more fulfilling, purpose-driven life.
Emotional Connections in Fashion: Secondhand clothing isn’t just about the fabric—it’s about the stories and memories they carry.
Building Resilience as an Entrepreneur: Entrepreneurship isn’t just about your business idea—it’s about passion, resilience, and staying true to your values.
Social Media & Personal Branding: Kat shares how she’s used social media to build an authentic personal brand and connect with her audience.
Sustainable Fashion: Vintage shopping is more than a style choice—it’s a way to support the planet while staying fashionable.
Self-Care & Entrepreneurship: Kat talks about why self-care is crucial for entrepreneurs and how it helps keep your energy aligned with your business goals.
Community Support: Building a community of support and collaboration is key to long-term success in business.
Chapters:
00:00 - The Art of Vintage Fashion and Home Decor
11:33 - Personal Journeys: From Fashion to Home Transformation
20:18 - Sustainability in Home Renovation and Vintage Shopping
21:13 - Finding Hidden Treasures
22:40 - From Laser Specialist to Vintage Entrepreneur
25:51 - The Reality of Quitting Your Job
28:16 - Balancing Business and Family Life
30:54 - Self-Care and Managing Energy
32:21 - Embracing Empathy and Authenticity
35:25 - Honoring Stories Through Fashion
39:23 - Dealing with Criticism and Haters
41:29 - Advice for Those Feeling Stuck
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Kat's Instagram: Vintage Irish Kat
Kat’s Shop Website: Preloved by Shay and Jo
Kat’s Shop Instagram: Preloved by Shay and Jo on Instagram
Connect with Me:If you’re feeling stuck or thinking about making a career change, I’m here to help. I work with people who want to move forward, reclaim their power, and embrace new beginnings.
Follow me on Instagram: Norma O'Kelly
Join my community on Telegram: Beyond the Norm Community
My Website: NormaOKelly.com
CTA:Are you feeling stuck in your career or personal life?
Do you dream of transitioning into something more fulfilling but feel unsure where to start? Let’s talk!
As a transition coach, I help people just like you move through feelings of stuckness and step into their next chapter with confidence.
Head to my website and check out my one off 90 min session: https://beyondthenorm.thrivecart.com/90-min-withnorma/https://beyondthenorm.thrivecart.com/90-min-withnorma/
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Thanks so much for listening!
Norma x
From Engineer to Healer - A Beyond the Norm Interview with Jennifer Dundon
2025/06/10
In this episode of Beyond the Norm, host Norma O' Kelly interviews Jennifer Dundon also named Suguna, an engineer turned energy healer and soul guide.
Jennifer shares her transformative journey from a conventional career to following her heart and embracing a life of healing and travel. She recounts her experiences in India, particularly her time in an ashram with Amma, the hugging saint, and how these experiences shaped her understanding of surrender, acceptance, and personal growth.
The conversation explores the challenges and joys of building a healing practice, the importance of community, and the power of following one's heart. Jennifer emphasises the significance of listening to one's inner guidance and the transformative potential of travel and self-discovery.
Please follow Jennifer on Instagram ; https://www.instagram.com/iamsugunajennifer/
Visit her website:
https://www.iamsuguna.com/
Chapters:
00:00 Journey of Transformation: From Engineer to Energy Healer
03:26 The Call to Adventure: Embracing the Unknown
06:27 Finding Home: The Ashram Experience
09:16 The Power of Surrender: Lessons from Amma
12:10 Cultural Shock and Acceptance: Navigating India
15:16 The Role of Community: Building Connections in the Ashram
18:24 Returning Home: Integrating New Realities
21:19 The Impact of Transformation: Sharing the Journey
24:15 Embracing Change: The Evolution of Self
31:50 Family Connections and Spiritual Experiences
34:23 Life Beyond the Ashram
37:33 Navigating Financial Sustainability
41:25 Returning to Roots and Community Offerings
46:08 The Journey of Self-Discovery
56:29 Embracing Change and Trusting the Heart
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FROM Tech Leader TO Award winning ARTIST - My Favourite Transition Career Story
2025/05/08
In this episode of Beyond the Norm, Kieran Guckian shares his inspiring journey from a corporate tech career to becoming a full-time artist.
He discusses the emotional challenges of transitioning careers, the importance of creativity for mental well-being, and the significance of community among artists.
Kieran reflects on his experience participating in Sky's Landscape Artist of the Year Finalist only 1 year after becoming a full time artist and emphasises the need for self-promotion and marketing in the art world.
He offers valuable advice for aspiring creatives, encouraging them to embrace their passions and find structured time for their artistic pursuits.
Links to find and follow Kieran:
https://www.instagram.com/kguckian
Kieran's website:
https://www.kieranguckian.art/
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Please, rate, review and share with your networks!
Thanks so much for listening!
Norma x
6 steps To Break Free from People Pleasing - Beyond the Norm Episode
2025/05/04
Summary
In this episode of Beyond the Norm, I explore the concept of people pleasing, its roots, and practical strategies to overcome it.
I discuss the systemic influences that contribute to people pleasing behaviours, including family dynamics and societal expectations. The episode emphasises the importance of self-awareness, setting boundaries, and prioritising personal needs to foster authenticity and emotional well-being. I encourage you to embrace discomfort as part of the growth process and to seek support through coaching and self-reflection.
Takeaways
People pleasing often stems from a desire for acceptance and belonging.Awareness is the first step in addressing people pleasing behaviors.Family dynamics play a significant role in shaping people pleasing tendencies.Setting boundaries is essential for personal well-being.Disappointing others can be a necessary part of self-care.Understanding personal values can help in making decisions that align with one's true self.Practicing saying 'no' is crucial for breaking the cycle of people pleasing.It's important to recognise the emotional cost of people pleasing.Change is a journey that requires patience and self-compassion.Systemic coaching can provide valuable insights and support in overcoming people pleasing.
Chapters;
00:00 Introduction to People Pleasing
00:29 Understanding the Roots of People Pleasing
01:27 Supportive Resources and Personal Connection
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02:09 Understanding People Pleasing
05:20 The Roots of People Pleasing
08:08 Family Dynamics and Roles
10:56 Fear of Exclusion and Belonging
14:03 Rules of Belonging
16:59 Conflict Avoidance and Perfectionism
20:18 Practical Tools to Stop People Pleasing
29:05 The Power of Saying No
32:25 Disappointing Others: A Necessary Step
36:23 Letting Go of the 'Good One' Identity
41:44 Identifying and Upholding Personal Values
43:39 Setting Boundaries and Enforcing Them
48:20 Embracing Resistance and Personal Growth
READ the BLOG that pairs with this episode https://www.normaokelly.com/blogbeyondthenorm/stoppeoplepleasingunlearn
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Norma's Entrepreneurs Update - Beyond the Norm
2025/05/02
Summary
In this episode of Beyond the Norm, Norma O' Kelly shares a heartfelt update on her podcast journey, reflecting on the challenges of balancing personal and professional life. She discusses her desire for more fun and connection, the launch of new programs aimed at supporting budding entrepreneurs, and the importance of intuition and stillness in her work. Norma emphasises the need for self-compassion and the joy of community as she navigates her path forward.
Takeaways
Norma emphasises the importance of not letting the podcast become a chore.She expresses guilt for not publishing guest interviews in a timely manner.Norma acknowledges her humanity and the messiness of life.She reflects on the need for more fun and balance in her life.Norma is ready to celebrate and enjoy life beyond work.She recognizes the costs of entrepreneurship on her personal life.Norma desires to let her hair down and have fun this summer.She is launching an accelerator program for aspiring entrepreneurs.Self-belief is a significant barrier for many in pursuing their passions.Norma highlights the power of stillness for enhancing intuition.
Chapters
00:00 Welcome Back and Podcast Update
02:55 Navigating Personal and Professional Life
06:13 Desire for Fun and Balance
08:58 Launching New Programs and Self-Belief
11:47 Intuition and Stillness in Work
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Forgiveness Heals your Life - A Beyond the Norm Podcast special with Eileen Clair
2025/03/18
In this episode, I interview Eileen Clair, a holistic therapist and teacher, who shares her journey into the world of healing through Louise Hay's work.
Eileen discusses the importance of community, forgiveness, self-love, and the power of language in personal growth. The conversation explores how you can navigate your challenges, find purpose, and embrace their unique paths while fostering connections with others.
Eileen shares the significance of compassion, both for oneself and for others, as a catalyst for healing and transformation.
Really heartwarming and powerful interview
Do let us both know what you think x
Eileen's website:
https://eileenclair.com/
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on Sunday April 27th. Please Follow Norma's stories for this going on sales this week to her waitlist Mid March.
Takeaways
Eileen Clare emphasises the interconnectedness of individuals on their healing journeys.Forgiveness is a powerful tool for personal liberation and healing.Self-love begins with compassion towards oneself.Language and affirmations play a crucial role in shaping our self-perception.Community support is essential for personal growth and healing.Clarity in emotions can sometimes come from acknowledging sadness.The journey of healing is ongoing and requires continuous self-reflection.Courage is necessary to question and change one's circumstances.Rest is not a sign of weakness but a necessary part of self-care.The future of healing lies in building authentic connections and communities.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Connection to Louise Hay's Work
07:36 The Journey of Self-Discovery and Healing
13:30 The Role of Community and Spiritual Connection
18:47 The Power of Forgiveness in Healing
24:55 Forgiveness as a Path to Freedom
28:00 The Power of Self-Compassion
34:26 Reframing Self-Love and Kindness
40:42 Healing Through Awareness and Community
47:03 Finding Courage in Unfulfilling Environments
50:29 Introduction to Eileen Clare and Upcoming Retreats
51:26 Marketing Master Classes and Support for Entrepreneurs
51:56 Engagement and Community Building through Telegram and Social Media
Keywords:
Keywords
Eileen Clair, Louise Hay, holistic healing, self-love, forgiveness, community, personal growth, energy work, emotional healing, wellness
Career Change at 40 – Is It Too Late? (Spoiler: No, It’s Your Time!)
2025/03/11
🎙️ Beyond the Norm Podcast: Career Change at 40 – Is It Too Late? (Spoiler: No, It’s Your Time!)
Episode Summary
In this episode of Beyond the Norm, I dive deep into the realities of career change in midlife and beyond.. in fact no matter what age you.
If you’ve been feeling stuck, burned out, or questioning whether there’s more out there for you—this one’s for you.
I share my own story of leaving corporate life, the doubts and fears I faced, and why freedom has been my number one value ever since.
l explore:✔️ The common reasons people seek a career change at 40 (burnout, lack of meaning, life changes).✔️ The biggest barriers—including fear and other people’s expectations.✔️ Seven essential steps to navigating a successful transition without waiting for permission.
If you’re sitting on the edge of change, unsure if it’s too late, know this: You are not starting from scratch. You are bringing everything you’ve already built into this next chapter.
🔹 Are you ready to take imperfect action? Let’s get started.
Key Takeaways
✨ It’s never too late to step into more meaningful work.✨ Freedom is a core value that often drives career change.✨ You don’t need fixing—you’re already whole.✨ Life’s fragility can be a catalyst for change.✨ Recognition in the workplace is crucial for fulfilment.✨ Many people seek change in their 40s because they crave purpose.✨ Financial considerations can be a valid reason to pivot.✨ Self-employment can break familial expectations.✨ Fear feels real, but it’s often unfounded.✨ Rest is a strategy, not a luxury.✨ Imperfect action is always better than inaction.✨ Careers aren’t linear anymore—embrace the squiggly path.
⏳ 00:00 – Welcome Back and New Beginnings🎭 02:46 – The Journey of Career Change🔥 11:24 – Catalysts for Change in Midlife💡 29:46 – Common Reasons for Seeking Change🚧 37:57 – Barriers to Career Change🛠️ 40:50 – Overcoming Career Change Barriers📍 50:29 – Seven Steps to Navigating Career Change at 40📖 01:02:10 – The Squiggly Careers Approach to Career Growth🌱 01:08:25 – Embracing Imperfect Action and Community Support🚀 01:19:00 – The Catalyst for Change and Future Opportunities
🔹 “Freedom is my number one value.”🔹 “Life can end just tomorrow morning.”🔹 “Peace is the new luxury.”🔹 “You want more than just survival mode.”🔹 “You can create your own peace.”🔹 “What does society think you should do?”🔹 “Breaking rules of belonging in my family.”🔹 “Fear—false evidence appearing as real.”🔹 “You can start as you are.”🔹 “Nothing is forever. It's an experiment.”🔹 “Expect to be taken seriously.”🔹 “You are not starting from scratch.”🔹 “Listen to your own voice. You got this.”🔹 “Rest is a strategy.”🔹 “Take imperfect action. Just start now.”🔹 “You are on the edge of something.”🔹 “Careers aren’t straight lines anymore—they’re squiggly, and that’s okay.”
READ MY BLOG on this same topic; https://www.normaokelly.com/blogbeyondthenorm/careerchangeat-40-your-7-step-roadmap-to-a-job-you-love
💬 DM me on Instagram (@normaokellysystemiccoach) and tell me: What’s your biggest fear about career change at 40?💡 Need clarity? Book a 90-Min Clarity & Confidence Session—I’ll help you get unstuck and map your next steps. https://beyondthenorm.thrivecart.com/90-min-withnorma/
📢 Join my Telegram group for conscious career conversations and support from like-minded people navigating change. https://t.me/+fKwiSZni3fMwNzk0
📖 Check out Squiggly Careers by Helen Tupper and Sarah Ellis—it’s a brilliant reframe on how career paths work today.
✨ Share this episode with a friend who’s also thinking about a career shift—support is everything!
🎧 Subscribe & Leave a Review! Your feedback helps get this podcast to those who need it most.
Go gently, and remember: You are not too late. You are right on time. 🌿
PS have you read my blog yet? https://www.normaokelly.com/blogbeyondthenorm/careerchangeat-40-your-7-step-roadmap-to-a-job-you-love
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