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100 episodes
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Date created
2021/02/21
Latest episode
2026/01/25
Average duration
55 min.
Release period
23 days
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Join Australia’s most popular copywriting coach Bernadette Schwerdt as she takes you deep inside the world of how to be a professional copywriter. She’ll bring you the latest in how to get started, find work, build a brand, make money, manage your mindset and more. This behind the scenes look at how to become a top copywriter is the perfect pick-me-up for any writer who wants to earn more doing something they love. This podcast is by Australian Writers' Centre and Copy School.
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COPYWRITER 100: How to optimise your content to get found on ChatGPT with Justin Kabbani.
2026/01/25
Justin Kabbani is an AI strategist, educator, former agency leader and one of the smartest voices in Australia when it comes to making AI useful.
In this conversation, we dive into the real-world side of AI: the failures, the breakthroughs and the new techniques to make using it so much simpler.
We explore how to use AI to write better content, get found on ChatGPT, create better prompts and build agent-based systems that automate the jobs you don’t want to do.
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COPYWRITER 099: How to build a new app and source Australia’s top creative talents to write for it
2025/12/21
In this episode, Lucy Durack, star of Wicked and Legally Blonde, and Elise McCann, star of Mamma Mia and Matilda, talk about how Hey Lemonade grew from two friends swapping pep talks into a motivational app featuring scripts written by some of Australia’s greatest creatives.
This episode provides the inside story of how this app got built, funded, written and brought to life by two of Australia’s favourite actresses, each stepping out of their comfort zone to become tech entrepreneurs.
We cover:
How a moment during COVID sparked the original idea for Hey Lemonade. The writing room process for creating the scripts. Why writing, not technology, sits at the heart of the app. How they found and briefed Australia’s top creatives to write the pep talks. The challenges of writing for an app. The role of humour, empathy, and clarity in mental health writing. Navigating funding, partnerships, and growth whilst retaining the purpose and friendship that underpinned it. If you’re interested in writing purpose-driven content and building a tech product from scratch, this episode is for you.
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COPYWRITER 098: How to create a one-woman content empire with wellness expert, Nat Kringoudis
2025/11/23
Nat Kringoudis is a one-woman media magnate, and her topic is women’s health and wellness.
She’s got a podcast, a masterclass, a clinic, an online shop, a series of bestselling books, a popular blog, a slew of brand deals, and she helps thousands of women feel better about themselves.
It’s a winning formula that has seen her win a stack of awards and become an influencer with real impact.
Today I talk to Nat about how she built her content empire – the successes, the failures, the online love, the online hate, the court case, the stress and how she navigates it all and turns up smiling every day.
For content creators, we also do a deep dive into the exact formulas, content plans and cadences she uses to manage her content empire.
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COPYWRITER 097: How to use content to build a cult shoe brand with eCommerce legend Vince Lebon
2025/11/02
If you haven’t already tried the sneakers from Rollie Nation, you should. They are light as a cloud and as colourful as a piece of art.
The founder is Vince Lebon, one of the most innovative entrepreneurs working in Australia right now. With over 20 years of experience and award-winning collaborations with brands like Adidas, Asics, and Foot Locker, Vince has got his finger on the marketing pulse as to what worked in the past, what’s working now and what will work in the future.
He got his start selling shoes at the South Melbourne market, and now he’s one of the leading eCommerce brands in Australia.
In this episode, we dive into email marketing, customer experience, content creation, brand building, automation, AI, loyalty, and even token-gated commerce – all through the lens of someone who’s been ahead of the curve for decades.
What you’ll learn:
How Vince turned his passion for shoes into a hugely profitable eCommerce brand. How he sold 3,000 shoes before a single one was made. How to gain a competitive edge by combining an eclectic range of skillsets. Email automation secrets: what Vince did years before others caught on. Why he believes the future of loyalty is blockchain and tokenised access. How he hires his team and tips on how you can hire the best people for you. Read the show notes
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COPYWRITER 096: How to turn online hate into a magnificent memoir with Australia’s leading columnist, Kate Halfpenny.
2025/10/12
Via her popular weekly column for The Age and Sydney Morning Herald, Kate Halfpenny is known for speaking her mind, having an opinion and sharing it with the public.
And now she’s written a book about her life, marriage, mental health – and the toll her husband’s drinking took on all of it.
You’ll laugh, you’ll cry and you’ll get to hear the inside story of how one column Kate wrote created a maelstrom of fury, which in turn led to the writing of her magnificent memoir Boogie Wonderland.
Today I get to talk to Kate about how this book came about, how she dealt with online hate and how her decision to make a sea change from Melbourne's cosy hipster suburb of Collingwood to a sleepy ocean town led to a mid-life reckoning she neither expected nor wanted.
What we cover:
The surprising column that landed Kate a book deal. Why vulnerability is her greatest storytelling strength. How she handles online hate (including serious threats). Mental health strategies for navigating public backlash. The reality of writing about your own life and the people in it. Tips for pitching stories and landing a column in major publications. How AI is changing the writing business and what Kate’s doing about it. Read the show notes
This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 095: How to become an influencer with Australia's leading Talent Agency Founder, Kat Moses
2025/09/21
Would you like to become an influencer? Would you like a step-by-step playbook for how to get that career up and running? If you’ve ever wanted to monetise your passions and turn your knowledge into profit, this is the episode for you.
Kat Moses is the founder of MGMT, one of Australia’s leading influencer talent agencies. She manages many of the big names in Australia and knows what’s what and who’s who in the world of influencer marketing, influencer management, brand collabs and much more.
I sat down with Kat to talk about all things influencers, but what I loved most about our chat was that she gave me a blow-by-blow summary of how I could become an influencer – and it’s a guide that you could use to do the same.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
How Kat transitioned from working for others to being the founder of her own agency. Why she moved to Los Angeles to grow the business. A day in the life of a successful influencer. How anyone can turn their knowledge into actionable insights people would pay for. What she looks for in an influencer and how to find representation. Why authenticity and consistency always beat follower count. How to create a compelling content plan. How creators can future-proof themselves in the face of AI, fatigue, and shifting platforms. The exact blueprint Kat uses to help new talent find their niche, grow fast, and get paid. Why influencer marketing is far from over, and where it’s heading next. Read the show notes
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COPYWRITER 094: How to turn your passion into a profitable podcast with Glen James
2025/08/31
It seems like everyone has got a podcast right now, but few know how to turn their podcast into a content empire like Glen James.
Glen started out life as a financial planner, and when he realised what impact he was making on people’s lives, he decided to scale up his business and use podcasting to reach more people.
Podcasting is just one pillar in his content empire, but if you’re interested in learning how someone has turned their passion for a topic into a very profitable content business, this is the episode for you.
You’ll learn:
How Glen went from teen investing nerd to podcast founder and author How he monetises his podcast How he uses two clear guidelines to decide where he puts his time and energy How to ensure your podcast guests promote the podcast for you How to create magnificent lead magnets that work How to use the podcast to find new clients How to future-proof your content business. Read the show notes
This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 093: How to manage fear, anxiety and imposter syndrome with the star of Phantom of the Opera, Josh Piterman
2025/08/10
Josh Piterman is no stranger to pressure. As the only Australian to play both the Phantom in London’s West End and Jean Valjean in Les Misérables, he knows what it’s like to perform at elite levels and what it takes to keep showing up when your inner critic won’t sit down.
Now also a coach, author, and podcast host, Josh shares how mindset, breathwork, meditation and self-awareness have transformed not only his performances but also his life. In this episode, we go deep into:
The crossover between performers and high-performing leaders What really fuels imposter syndrome, and how to shift it Using breathwork and heart rate variability to handle fear and stress The difference between achievement and fulfilment Josh’s “6 Ps” of performance, and why play matters more than perfection Behind the Mask: Why Josh wrote his deeply personal memoir-meets-self-help guide Why vulnerability is the most underrated leadership tool Whether you're heading into a boardroom, onto a stage, or just trying to show up more authentically in life, this conversation is a masterclass in mindset.
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This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 092: How to hire great people (and fire them if you have to) with Meahan Callaghan
2025/07/20
Without a doubt, hiring staff is one of the hardest, yet arguably, the most important parts of building a business.
Whether you’re hiring a Virtual Assistant to update your database or hiring a CEO to run your business, getting the right team together is critical.
A few know better how to put a team together than Meahan Callaghan, the current Chief People and Culture Officer at Red Bubble (now known as Articore) and has held senior HR roles at Afterpay, Mecca, Seek and Foxtel. Meahan has hired and, let’s be honest, fired a lot of people, and she knows exactly how to find the right person for a role and build a winning culture.
In this episode, we take a look at how one of the best in the business goes about hiring and firing people, what it’s like to work with some of the most famous founders in the country, and how to go about hiring the right people for your business.
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This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 091: How to build your YouTube following with Lachlan & Austin Macfarlane
2025/06/29
What if your side hobby could land you on the set of How to Train Your Dragon or in the same room as Timothée Chalamet?
That’s the wild reality for Lachlan and Austin Macfarlane – aka the Macfarlane Brothers – two self-taught filmmakers whose short-form videos have clocked more than 500 million views online. Starting with a childhood curiosity and a second-hand camera, they’ve grown into full-time content creators, directors, and award-winning storytellers for global brands like Warner Bros., Netflix, and Universal Pictures.
In this episode, they unpack the creative process behind their viral videos, how they turn 15 seconds into a storytelling masterclass, and what it really takes to build an audience that sticks around. Plus, they share what goes into landing brand deals, writing sponsored content that doesn’t suck, and why they’re aiming to direct feature films next.
Whether you're a marketer, copywriter, or creator at heart—this one’s packed with practical gold.
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COPYWRITER 090: How to land lucrative brand deals as a content creator with Michelle Melky
2025/06/08
We’ve all heard about the TikTok video that goes viral for no apparent reason or the unsuspecting tradie who becomes an overnight sensation off the back of one post.
Well, it turns out there’s a method to that madness, and the one with the keys to unlocking that method is Michelle Melky.
Michelle is the Global Creative Director of a marketing agency called Amplify. They represent the top influencers and broker the deals for them. Michelle has created cutting-edge content for brands including Estee Lauder, Warner Bros. and Google.
She also co-produced Love Songs, the world’s first narrative web series for TikTok. Her work has been nominated for a TikTok Ad Award, three Mumbrella Awards and in 2024, she was shortlisted for the B&T 30 Under 30 Awards.
In this episode, we talk about what it means to be an influencer – or content creator, as Michelle prefers to call them. She gives us the low down on how to create that content, land a brand deal, find clients willing to pay you the big bucks and why you don’t need as many followers as you might think to start calling yourself an influencer.
If you’ve ever wanted to monetise your knowledge about anything and learn how to negotiate and navigate the new media landscape, this is the episode for you.
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This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 089: How to launch your own digital marketing campaign with expert marketer Ben Fewtrell
2025/05/18
If you’ve ever wondered what digital marketing really is, and how you can leverage it to generate more traffic, more leads, and convert more sales, this is the podcast for you.
There are lots of digital marketers out there, but few have the depth, skill, and knowledge that Ben Fewtrell has.
As the owner of Digi TLC, he’s run campaigns for a huge range of clients and has got the digital process down to a fine art.
In this episode, Ben teaches us how to kick-start a digital marketing campaign, how to create content for it, what to focus on, what to forget about, and provides some simple case studies to demonstrate how he does it and how you can do it too.
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This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 088: How to create SEO content that gets you on page 1 of Google in an AI world with Penelope Cannata
2025/04/27
In this episode, Bernadette chats with Penelope Cannata, SEO Content Strategist at StudioHawk, about what it really takes to get found online right now. Penelope unpacks the biggest mistakes businesses make with SEO copy, how to write for both humans and algorithms, and why brands need to double down on trust, quality and purpose if they want to stay relevant in AI-powered search.
With 6+ years of experience across education, commercial and not-for-profit sectors, Penelope brings a refreshing mix of strategy, empathy, and clarity to the world of content marketing. Whether you’re a writer, marketer, or business owner, you’ll walk away with a more grounded (and hopeful!) view of where content is headed.
In this episode, you’ll learn:
The #1 SEO mistake writers still make (and what to do instead) Why content length and quality both matter more than ever The difference between informational and thought leadership content (and when to use each) How to structure content for SERP features and AI overviews Why trust signals and audience-centricity will define the future of SEO What AI is actually pulling into results (and how to get your brand included) How to optimise for voice search and the rise of zero-click content Read the show notes
This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 087: How to write an SEO Blog in an AI world with Matthew Farmer
2025/04/06
AI might be dominating headlines, but when it comes to getting found online, Google is still king. In this episode, we’re cutting through the hype and getting back to basics - because no matter how fast AI evolves, knowing how to write an SEO blog that ranks is still essential.
To walk us through it, I’ve invited back Matt Farmer - former student, long-time SEO content strategist, and past team member at award-winning agency Studio Hawk. Matt knows exactly what it takes to get content noticed by Google, and in this mini masterclass, he shares practical tips and strategies you can use right now to boost your website rankings.
If you want to sharpen your SEO writing skills, this episode is for you.
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This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
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COPYWRITER 086: How to free up time and avoid burning out in copywriting with Kieran Browning
2025/03/16
In this episode, we chat with Kieran Browning, a consultant with deep expertise in operations and digital marketing. If you’re a copywriter struggling to scale, feeling overwhelmed with client work, or battling endless revisions, this conversation is packed with practical insights to help you streamline your business.
In this episode, you’ll discover:
The biggest bottlenecks copywriters face when scaling. How to efficiently delegate tasks and systemise your business. The simple email tweak that reduces unnecessary revisions. Why onboarding is the key to preventing scope creep. How to manage difficult client expectations without losing them. The best ways to generate leads without it taking up all your time. The "phase two" trick for handling clients who always want more. A streamlined sales process that works for conferences and networking. Follow-up techniques that help close deals (without feeling pushy). Kieran shares invaluable advice on making your business more sustainable, so you can focus on what you do best.
Tune in now and start implementing these strategies today!
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This podcast is brought to you by the Australian Writers' Centre. WritersCentre.com.au
Join our community of copywriters at CopyClub.com.au.
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ShaniceJM 2023/02/23
Love love love!
I absolutely love this podcast! Bernadette has such an amazing voice, provides wonderful tips for copywriters to help grow their businesses, and bring...
Andrea Seale 2022/10/20
Wannabe Copywriter’s Gold
I love this podcast. It’s full of really valuable information. Thanks to the rich content in each episode, I feel confident taking the next steps to...
Dewberry June 2022/06/20
Professional and Comprehensive
Bernadette sets the bar high. I haven’t found another copywriting podcast as helpful as her interviews with former students. The interviews reveal the...
Gwen Pintor 2021/10/28
Thank you
Gave valuable information to start.
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