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2021/03/30
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2026/10/27
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A true crime podcast about murder and murdering, but we are not murderers. We promise. NEW EPISODES ON MONDAYS!
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A Cure for Death: Norman Baker & America's Most Haunted Hotel and The Woman Beneath the Wate
2026/10/27
Uncover the dark side of a "cure" and a haunting secret that refused to stay buried. In this week's spine-chilling episode of Murder, Not Murdering, we are diving deep into two tales of medical minds, madness, and the spirits left behind.
First, Erin takes us to Eureka Springs, Arkansas, to uncover the terrifying legacy of A Cure for Death: Norman Baker and America’s Most Haunted Hotel. Discover how a flamboyant, purple-suited charlatan turned the beautiful Crescent Hotel into a makeshift cancer hospital filled with false hope, a basement morgue, and the restless spirits of patients who never checked out.
Then, Autumn switches gears to a different kind of medical mystery, breaking down the haunting case of Dr. Norman Spencer and his wife, Claire. When a woman connected to them both suddenly vanishes, the truth begins to unravel from the most unexpected place—beyond the grave. Is it a haunting, or a horrific cover-up?
Takeaways
Haunting history of Crescent HotelNorman Baker's fraudulent practices Dark secrets revealedSupernatural elements intertwinedChapters
00:00 Introduction and Halloween Excitement03:13 The Crescent Hotel's Dark History09:07 Norman Baker: The Conman14:54 The Baker Cancer Hospital21:08 The Aftermath of Baker's Deception26:45 Paranormal Activity at the Crescent Hotel32:57 Conclusion and Reflections37:25 The Perfect Life Unraveled40:11 Claire's Struggles and Strange Events42:31 The Disappearance Next Door44:47 Investigating the Neighbors46:40 The Haunting Begins48:17 Seeking Answers with a Ouija Board49:30 The Connection to Madison52:31 Claire's Obsession Grows53:27 Memories Resurface54:14 Confronting Norman56:07 Jodi's Revelation57:00 Norman's Dangerous Secrets58:00 The Jewelry Box Discovery01:00:44 The Confrontation with Norman01:02:43 Norman's Confession01:04:16 The Attack01:06:44 The Drowning Attempt01:09:01 The Final Struggle01:11:10 The Aftermath and Reflection01:12:40 Unraveling the Mystery01:13:04 The Twist Revealed
The Unsolved Massacre at Hinterkaifeck & The Trick or Treat Slaying of Peter Fabiano
2026/10/20
This episode delves into the Hinterkaifeck massacre, a chilling unsolved case from 1922 Germany, exploring the eerie events leading up to the murders and the complex family dynamics involved. Erin and Autumn discuss the unsettling atmosphere surrounding the case. Then Erin delves into the Trick-or-Treat murder of LA hairdresser Peter Fabiano with a twist you will not see coming.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to the Hinterkaifeck Murders03:00 The Eerie Atmosphere of the Case06:03 The Family Background08:50 Strange Occurrences Before the Murders12:09 The Night of the Murders15:07 Discovery of the Bodies18:08 Investigation Challenges31:09 The Hinterkaifeck Murders Unveiled32:32 Suspects and Theories Explored36:23 The Role of Evidence and Investigation37:19 The Demolition and Discovery40:20 From Historical Record to Folklore46:51 The Trick-or-Treat Murder CaseKeywords
True crime, Los Angeles, LA crimes, Hinterkaifeck, Massacre, Halloween, Halloween crime, Unsolved
Murder at the Red Barn: The Maria Marten Case
2026/10/13
Explore the chilling case of Maria Marten, a woman murdered in 1827 England, whose story involves ghostly dreams, public executions, and morbid artifacts including death masks and a human skin bound book. This episode delves into historical forensic practices, classism, and the dark fascination with death.
keywords
true crime, historical murder, Maria Marten, public execution, forensic history, ghost stories, classism, morbid artifacts, Red Barn case
key topics
The life of Maria Marten and her background
The events leading up to her murder in 1827
The role of dreams and ghostly apparitions in the case
Details of the murder and the violent attack on Maria
The trial, execution, and public fascination with William Corter
The artifacts preserved from the case, including the skin-bound book and death masks
Discussion on the ethics of morbid artifacts and public executions
The influence of classism and misogyny in the case and society
Reflections on historical forensic practices and their evolution
The importance of remembering victims as individuals with futures
The Murder of Colleen Slemmer: Christa Pike & The Hex Hollow Murder
2026/10/06
On this week's episode Autumn does a deep dive into the true crime case of Christa Pike whose execution is currently making headlines, she highlights the complexities of her background and the brutal murder of Colleen Slemmer. Autumn explores the legal battles, Pike's transformation during her time in prison, and the ethical implications surrounding her execution attempt in 2026, which ended in failure, raising questions about capital punishment and rehabilitation. Then Erin takes you back nearly 100 years for the Hex Hollow Murder in Pennsylvania Dutch country where folk healing and witchcraft leads to a brutal murder and fire leaving three men in its wake. See where folklore, powwow, magic, and violence meet.
Keywords: Christa Pike, Colleen Slemmer, True Crime, Pennsylvania, Hex Hollow, Current Events, Old Time Crime, Historical Crime
The Holy Rollers Love Cult: The Brides of Christ & The First Executed Witch of Salem
2026/09/29
This week Erin starts us off with a local Pacific Northwest cult case with The Holy Rollers Love Cult/The Brides of Christ. It takes place in the early 1900s and involves a cult, blatant adultery, an attack, assassination attempts, murder, asylums, prisons, and that is just scratching the surface. Then Autumn takes us back to 1600's Salem for the story of Bridget Bishop the first person executed during the Salem Witch hysteria.
New episodes are out every Tuesday and listen wherever you get your podcasts!
Steve McNair: the Legacy & Questions Left Behind and Kitsap's Erland's Point Massacre
2026/09/22
In this episode, we explore the life and legacy of NFL star Steve McNair, the mysterious circumstances of his death, and the importance of understanding the full story beyond headlines. Next we delve into a chilling case from 1934 in Kisap's Erlands Point, Washington, revealing how a massacre that almost went cold was solved.
key topics
Steve McNair's football career and legacyCircumstances surrounding Steve McNair's deathInvestigation and questions about the caseThe importance of understanding a person's full storyDetails of the Erlands Point massacre and investigation
Chapters
00:00Introduction to Steve McNair and today's case
02:04Autumn shares her day and personal mishaps
07:00Introduction to Steve McNair's early life and football career
11:59McNair's NFL achievements and Super Bowl run
17:07The tragic night of Steve McNair's death
20:00Details of the investigation and questions raised
25:14Reconstructing McNair's final hours and events
30:12Remembering Steve McNair beyond the headlines
32:14Introduction to the Erlands Point massacre case
36:01Discovery of the crime scene and initial investigation
39:58Media coverage and public reaction to the massacre
45:01The investigation, evidence, and unresolved questions
keywords Steve McNair, NFL, true crime, murder case, sports history, investigation, unsolved mysteries, crime analysis, Pacific Northwest, historical crime
The Teeth & The Body in the Lab: The Parkman Murder Case & The Candyman: Ronald Clark O'Bryan
2026/09/16
In this episode, Erin covers the murder case of Dr. George Parkman and the trial of Harvard professor John White Webster. It explores the disappearance, discovery of body parts, dental evidence, and the sensational trial. Then Autumn delves into the reason why we check our Halloween candy with the Candy Man Case. The tragic story of Timothy O'Bryan, who died after consuming poisoned Halloween candy given to him by his father, Ronald O'Bryan.
Takeaways
Forensic evidence played a crucial role in convicting the murderer.The trial attracted widespread attention and public interest. Early forensic evidence, such as dental identification, played a crucial role in the Parkman-Webster Trial.The Candy Man Case highlights the disturbing reality that danger can come from someone known and trusted, not just from strangers.
Chapters
00:00 The Disappearance of Dr. George Parkman05:26 Discovery of Body Parts and Dental Evidence08:53 Investigation and Suspicions12:08 Webster's Arrest and Evidence Collection27:51 Webster's Indictment and Trial30:49 The Parkman-Webster Trial34:25 The Verdict and Sentencing43:38 The Candy Man Case
Infamous Axe Murderers: Lizzie Borden & Thomas Goss
2026/09/08
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, Autumn and Erin take a trip into the dark folklore of New England, where two infamous axe murderers became the stuff of legend.
First, Autumn revisits one of America’s most notorious unsolved mysteries: Lizzie Borden. On a sweltering August morning in 1892, Andrew and Abby Borden were found brutally murdered inside their Fall River, Massachusetts home. Lizzie, the daughter of the victims, was accused of wielding the axe—but did she really do it? More than a century later, the question remains.
Then Erin takes us back to 1785 Connecticut for the strange and unsettling story of Thomas Goss, a man whose violent crime, bizarre behavior, and subsequent inquest raised questions about madness, murder, and the law. His case offers a glimpse into how early New England communities understood insanity—and what happened when a murderer was believed to be beyond his own control.
Two cases. Two axes. Two very different eras.
From whispered accusations and courtroom drama to madness, murder, and the gallows, The Witch, The Axe, & the Gallows explores how these two New England killers became part of American true-crime history.
Murder, Not Murdering — because sometimes the legend is only the beginning.
The Hammer, The Medium, and the Missing Brother / The Kidnapping of Patty Hearst
2026/09/01
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, Erin brings us back to Spokane, Washington, in 1919 for the strange and unsettling case of W.H. McNutt. A missing brother, a hammer, and a medium all become pieces of a bizarre mystery that captured the attention of Spokane—and left behind more questions than answers.
Then Autumn dives into one of the most infamous kidnappings in American history: the kidnapping of Patty Hearst. In 1974, the 19-year-old heiress was abducted from her Berkeley apartment by the Symbionese Liberation Army. What happened next would become a media sensation, sparking questions about loyalty, coercion, radical politics, and the mysterious transformation of a kidnapping victim into one of the most controversial figures of the 1970s.
Two cases. Two very different eras. And two stories that prove sometimes the strangest crimes are the ones that refuse to fit neatly into a box.
Murder, Not Murdering — new episodes every Tuesday.
Darlie Routier: The Mother on Death Row
2026/08/25
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, we’re diving into the deeply disturbing and still highly debated case of Darlie Routier.
In 1996, Darlie Routier called 911 after her two young sons were brutally attacked inside their Texas home. What followed was an investigation filled with unanswered questions, conflicting evidence, and a trial that would capture national attention.
Darlie was convicted of killing her sons and sentenced to death—but decades later, questions surrounding the evidence, the investigation, and what really happened that night continue to fuel debate.
Join us as we walk through the timeline, the evidence, the trial, and the questions that remain.
The Mirage: The Tavern That Set A Trap
2026/08/18
What happens when a group of reporters decides that the best way to expose corruption is to stop reporting—and start bartending?
In 1970s Chicago, a team of investigative journalists opened a tavern in one of the city’s toughest neighborhoods. But this wasn’t your average neighborhood bar. The Mirage Tavern was a carefully constructed undercover operation, designed to find out exactly what happened when city inspectors, police officers, politicians, and other officials thought nobody was watching.
For months, the reporters poured drinks, kept the books, and quietly documented a system of bribery and corruption that operated with remarkable ease. What they uncovered would become one of the most audacious pieces of undercover journalism in Chicago history—and prove that sometimes, the best way to expose a crooked system is to let it walk right through your front door.
This week on Murder, Not Murdering, we’re going behind the bar at The Mirage: The Tavern That Set a Trap—where the drinks were real, the reporters were undercover, and the corruption was very much on the record.
Murder on the Dance Floor: Audrey Jacob Kills
2026/08/11
Murder on the Dance Floor: Audrey Jacob Kills
A night of dancing. A sudden confrontation. A deadly shot.
In this episode of Murder, Not Murdering, we travel back to the Jazz Age for the sensational case of Audrey Jacob, a young woman who found herself charged with murder after a deadly encounter on the dance floor.
What happened that night—and how did Audrey Jacob manage to get away with murder?
The newspapers had plenty to say. Now, let’s look at the facts.
New episodes are out every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts
The Louisville Torture House of 1924
2026/07/28
The Louisville Torture House of 1924 is a true crime story unlike any other.
When businessman Richard Heaton is found dead, the man who pulled the trigger insists it was self-defense. But as investigators begin peeling back the layers, they uncover a horrifying secret hidden inside a Louisville home—a place that newspapers would soon call The Louisville Torture House.
What follows is a case filled with kidnappings, torture, shocking courtroom testimony, mysterious crimes, and twists that seem too unbelievable to be true. Was William Gates an innocent victim who fought for his life, or was he hiding a darker past? And just how far did Richard Heaton’s violent reach extend?
Join Erin and Autumn as they separate fact from sensational headlines, explore the evidence, and uncover one of the most bizarre and forgotten true crime cases of the 1920s.
If you love historical true crime, obscure murder cases, courtroom drama, and stories with unbelievable twists, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.
New episodes of Murder, Not Murdering are released every Tuesday.
Lorena Bobbitt: The Story You Thought You Knew
2026/07/21
Everyone remembers the headline. Everyone remembers the joke. But very few people remember what actually happened.
In 1993, the Lorena Bobbitt case became one of the biggest media spectacles in American history. Television, tabloids, and late-night comedians turned a deeply complicated case into a cultural punchline, leaving millions with a version of events that often overlooked the evidence presented in court.
In this episode of Murder, Not Murdering, Erin follows the case from beginning to end: Lorena’s early life, her marriage to John Wayne Bobbitt, the allegations of domestic and sexual violence, the night of June 23, 1993, the criminal investigations, both trials, and the media frenzy that shaped public perception for decades.
This isn’t a story about taking sides. It’s about separating fact from fiction, examining the evidence, and understanding how one of America’s most infamous true crime stories became so widely misunderstood.
Pride Edition: Brandon Teena & Billy London – The Black Dahlia of West Hollywood
2026/06/30
In this Pride Edition of Murder, Not Murdering, Erin and Autumn explore two of the most heartbreaking LGBTQIA+ true crime cases in American history.
Autumn examines the life and murder of Brandon Teena, the young transgender man whose 1993 murder became a landmark case in the fight for transgender rights, LGBTQ+ visibility, and justice. She discusses the events leading up to his death, the investigation, the trial, and the lasting impact his story continues to have decades later.
Then Erin investigates the haunting 1990 murder of Billy London, a case that became known as The Black Dahlia of West Hollywood. For decades, Billy’s killer remained unidentified while rumors, dead ends, and unanswered questions surrounded the investigation. Then, nearly 30 years later, determined detectives and an unlikely group of civilian sleuths uncovered the truth, proving that even the coldest cases can still be solved.
This episode explores cold case investigations, forensic breakthroughs, LGBTQ+ history, hate crimes, and the pursuit of justice while honoring the lives of two victims whose stories deserve to be remembered.
If you enjoy true crime, cold cases, historical murders, LGBTQ+ history, and respectful, research-driven storytelling, this episode is for you.
Content Warning: This episode contains discussions of murder, hate crimes, anti-LGBTQIA+ violence, sexual assault, and graphic descriptions of violence. Listener discretion is strongly advised.
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Heath5055 2022/02/04
Respectful and informative
Erin and Autumn have a very respectful approach to discussing the crimes that fascinate me. They are gentle yet real, draw you in to their space, and ...
PinkHobbit 2021/12/14
The Friendship Makes This Show
There are many true crime podcasts out there but this one stands out because of Erin and Autumn’s friendship. It’s so relatable and a fun twist on the...
Jenni Rotten 2021/09/29
Love it!
It's just like sitting around with your pals & discussing true crime. Love it - keep going ladies!
Mrs Reba Marie 2021/03/31
New listener to true crimes!
I’ve never listened to true crime stories, but Autumn and Erin are very tantalizing, and now I’m hooked!
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