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Your title is not your identity. Jen Fort learned that the hard way, and she says the "implosion" might be the best thing that ever happened to her. That's what Girl Out of Order is about, rewriting the script instead of squeezing yourself into a life that no longer fits. Jen spent decades as a single mom and the director of a high-stress security command center, doing everything right. Then two colleagues died within three weeks, and two years later she was blindsided by an involuntary exit. Instead of asking "now what?", she asked "now who?" She gave herself time to wallow, did the soul-searching, and landed a job she had no background in with a 3 a.m. email. She went on to become a career coach, turn a spreadsheet of life lessons into seven books, and coin her own word for human connection, “connect working.”  And she's the first to say she didn't see the path until she looked back. We also get into: Why you don't need clarity to start, and how "start scrappy, move messy" gets you moving when you can't see the whole pathConnect working vs. networking: why people hate being treated like a vending machine, and the Safari Strategy for approaching someone from the sideThe One Person Challenge (meet one new person a week, learn their name, learn one thing about them), including why introverts may have a superpower when it comes to connectingIf you've ever lost a title, a job, or a plan and wondered who you are now, this one's for you. Tag a woman who needs to hear this. #GirlOutOfOrder #IdentityRedesign

Fear is a liar, and a sneaky one. It rarely says no. It says "not now." Kindyl Keeton  That's what Girl Out of Order is about, no longer letting fear write the rules for who you get to be. Kindyl was a power tumbler and trampolinist who competed internationally, then a coach who ran her own program with about 300 athletes. Then she became a mom of three, and after her divorce in her mid-30s she became a UPS driver, knowing she was meant for more. She set a two-year goal to leave and watched it slip by, until a conversation with her teenage daughter exposed the belief holding her back: that a good mom plays it safe. When she rewrote it to "a good mom models the courage she's asking of her kids," she was out in about six months. Today she's an identity and transformation coach who helps people close the gap between where they are and who they already are. We also get into: Why fear sounds like logic and responsibility, and how it disguises itself as "good mom" excusesWhy the world justifies our fears, and why even the people who love us can pull us back toward what's familiarHow Kindyl moves toward discomfort on purpose, from dinner alone to a dance class full of college kids, to show her body that nothing terrible happensIf you've ever told yourself "maybe tomorrow" about something you really want, this one's for you. Tag a woman who needs to hear this. #GirlOutOfOrder #IdentityRedesign

You're not broken, you're becoming. Robyn Graham Anxiety is a liar. It's also not a personality flaw. Robyn Graham says it's biological, and once you understand that, everything changes. That's what Girl Out of Order is about, no longer contorting yourself into a mold you were never destined for. Robyn grew up in a loving but anxious home in Southern Illinois, and she spent years trying to be who the world said she should be. Perfectionism, people-pleasing, and the need to control every situation became her armor. What she eventually learned is that those anxiety-driven behaviors are your nervous system trying to keep you safe, and that you can retrain it. When her own children began struggling with anxiety, she decided the cycle would stop with her. She became a doctor of pharmacy and an anxiety expert, and she wrote the book You, and Anxiety: Take Action Over Anxiety to Enjoy Being You. And she's the first to say she's still a work in progress. We also get into: Why "just snap out of it" never works, and what's really happening in your brain and body when anxiety takes overThe switch between your fear center and your "brilliant center," and why gratitude can flip it in a momentWhy "I am anxious" becomes an identity, and the simple first steps (a pen, a piece of paper, and a walk around the block) that start rewiring itIf you've ever believed something was wrong with you, this one's for you. Tag a woman who needs to hear this. #GirlOutOfOrder #IdentityRedesign

I didn't do bad things. I did too many good things.  Erika Coleman The first time Erika and I got on a discovery call, I knew within five minutes this was a hell yes. Not just because we practically have the same bookshelves (we do), but because she said something I hadn't heard put into words before.  You can burn out doing everything right. That's what Girl Out of Order is about, figuring out that "right" and "sustainable" aren't always the same thing. Erika built a business teaching companies how to go virtual, grew it 345% in five months, and was still hired at the top of her game, right as her mom was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. For 14 months she gave everything, doctor's appointments, a flash mob of joy, a "happy pill" full of love notes, a family talent show. She thought giving her all was the only way to give her best. Then her mom passed away, her business closed two months later, and Erika found out the hard way that all in and giving your best are not the same thing. We also get into: The research on why even good virtues become harmful past a certain pointHow to keep your drive without robbing tomorrow's version of youThe two questions to ask yourself to check your pace and your presence before you burn outIf you've ever confused giving everything with giving your best, this one's for you. Tag a woman who needs to hear this. #GirlOutOfOrder #IdentityRedesign

What if you fly? What if this ends up being the most incredible journey that you ever have?  - Melanie Borden The first time I saw Melanie Borden's bio, I decided she was out of my league. She was a keynote speaker, author, and founder, and I told myself she was "probably not my people." That had nothing to do with her and everything to do with the story I was telling myself about me. That's what Girl Out of Order is about: getting underneath the story you tell yourself to find the real one. Melanie and I are now friends, and in this conversation we compare notes on the moments that changed us. We talk about starting our businesses in the same season, both of us terrified, both of us crying over paperwork or in a home office, and both of us hearing the same question: What if you fly? We also get into: Why visibility is a form of leadershipHow to handle criticism when you're a visible womanHow to use AI without losing the part of you that can't be automatedIf you've ever talked yourself out of a room you belonged in, this one is for you. Tag a woman who needs to hear this. #GirlOutOfOrder #IdentityRedesign

What if your life on the inside could feel as good as your life on the outside?  Julee Brooke Have you ever caught yourself wondering when you disappeared? Not in one big moment, but slowly, over years of putting everyone else first. This week on Girl Out of Order, we sit down with Julee Brooke, a former lawyer turned real estate top-producer turned transformational guide, who has spent decades helping women reconnect with themselves after years of "chameleoning" to other people's needs. Julee's own path took her from law school in DC to educational design in Hawaii, twelve years in Santa Fe real estate, and eventually to the Netherlands, where she's lived for the past eleven years. Along the way, she kept noticing the same pattern, in herself and in the women around her: sixty-hour work weeks, taking on a partner's interests instead of their own, forgetting to actually live the life they were building. That pattern is what led her to create The Whole Woman Summit, a free virtual event on Sunday, September 20th, bringing together many power-packed, diverse speakers (myself included) to help attendees feel, in Julee's words, "alive in all aspects of their life."  Grab your free ticket to the Whole Woman Summit here: https://thewholewomansummit.com/optin-9542?am_id=christine6892  Go VIP and you'll unlock extra speaker freebies, including a free coaching session with me! Connect with Julee Brooke: https://www.instagram.com/julee_brooke_/

"Even when your voice shakes, sis, speak up!" My voice started changing in December. I kept brushed it off: a cold, aging, poor sleep. After a friend pointed it out, I started to pay attention. A visit to my doctor for hormonal support turned into a throat exam, then a thyroid ultrasound that flagged "mildly suspicious" nodules — later downgraded to "boring" by a specialist. That scare pushed me to an ENT, where a scope revealed the real issue: vocal cord nodules.  The fix isn't surgery. It's speech therapy — learning to slow down, breathe with intention, and speak differently, a real challenge for someone who moves through life fast by default. Well, I'm now in the middle of treatment, which is why the podcast went quiet and why this episode is a solo return before a run of previously recorded guest interviews. Here's what I want you to know... The literal voice mirrors the authentic voice. Silencing starts external, then becomes internal. We become our own censor. This matters for the next generation. Speak up even when your voice shakes, advocate for yourself, and refuse to outsource your own knowing to someone else's confidence.Join the Girl Out of Order Facebook Tribe! https://www.facebook.com/groups/girloutoforder Let's Connect! https://www.thechristinegale.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-d-gale-esq-0b899b204/ https://www.facebook.com/christine.salsberrygale/ https://www.instagram.com/thechristinegale/

"If you don't have any storms in your relationship, find some. Because if we did not have the obstacles we had, we would not have this relationship."                         John and Annie Meng What does it look like to build an identity as a couple — not just as two individuals sharing a life? In this rich, raw, and deeply personal conversation, Christine sits down with John and Annie Meng, founders of Love Jaam, to explore what it truly takes to create a shared identity in a relationship — and why the hardest seasons are often the ones that make you. Annie — Wharton graduate, former Miss Arizona, Wall Street finance veteran, and expecting mama — opens up about what it meant to be disowned by her family for choosing love. Death threats. Wedding day absences. And ultimately, the slow, intentional work of reconciliation that changed her from the inside out. John, a serial entrepreneur, business exit advisor, and relationship coach, shares how watching the woman he loved walk toward a potentially dangerous confrontation with her father — while he sat quietly in the car — became one of the most spiritually defining moments of his life. Together, they unpack: ✦ Why opposites don't just attract — they complete ✦ How to use the DISC profile to understand your couple dynamic ✦ What Tony Robbins' four seasons of relationship reveal about where you are right now ✦ The moment John realized love — not ego — had to lead ✦ Why Annie's estrangement from her family became the catalyst for her greatest personal growth ✦ The "Three C's" of lasting love: Chemistry, Commitment, and Compassion ✦ How to create a couples vision — the one exercise Christine is writing down mid-conversation This episode is for the woman who wants a great relationship but sometimes wonders if what she sees in other couples is even attainable. Spoiler: it is. And behind every great couple is usually a powerful, hard-won story. Connect with John & Annie Meng: 🌐 events.lovejaamm.com 📱 Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/annielimeng/ https://www.instagram.com/johnpmeng/

“Who you surround yourself with will often dictate the altitude you achieve.” What happens when you finally find the room that calls you back to yourself? In this episode, I share a raw, heartfelt recap of the spring retreat with the True Legacy Collective — and why the tribe you choose can either cage you or completely transform you. This isn't about FOMO. It's about possibility. We break down what it really means to belong — not fitting in, but being fully seen, fully held — and why your identity expands fastest when you're in the right room with the right women. In this episode: What a mastermind really is (and why most people misunderstand it)The difference between fitting in and true belongingWhy your dreams need witnesses, not just your journalHow the women around you set the altitude of your life5 things the right tribe will always do for youIf this episode reminded you of a woman who needs a better room, a braver tribe, or a reminder of who she really is, send it to her. And if Girl Out of Order is speaking to your heart, please take a moment to rate and review the podcast so more sisters can find their way here. Join the Girl Out of Order Facebook Tribe! https://www.facebook.com/groups/girloutoforder Let's Connect! https://www.thechristinegale.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-d-gale-esq-0b899b204/ https://www.facebook.com/christine.salsberrygale/ https://www.instagram.com/thechristinegale/

"Going back would mean selling for an older version of myself. And I'm no longer in that identity." — Anita Karadalian-Girgis What happens when the person whose love you craved the most doesn't have the capacity to give it — and you spend years accepting breadcrumbs? In this raw, deeply moving episode, I am privileged to sit down with women's empowerment coach and somatic healing guide Anita Karadalian-Girgis to talk about the healing work that actually changes you from the inside out. Anita opens up about growing up with an absent father, the moment she drew a hard line in the sand, and why neutrality in the face of old triggers is one of the most underrated wins in personal development. She also breaks down her signature HER Method — Heal, Embody, Rise — and explains why vision boards and affirmations fall flat when your body doesn't feel safe enough to receive what you're asking for. This episode is for the woman who's been outsourcing her worth to someone who was never going to give it back. Connect with Anita: https://www.arisewithanita.com/ https://www.instagram.com/arisewithanita/ https://www.facebook.com/anita.karadalian.7 Let's Connect! https://www.thechristinegale.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-d-gale-esq-0b899b204/ https://www.facebook.com/christine.salsberrygale/ https://www.instagram.com/thechristinegale/

“Healing does not mean erasing what happened. Sometimes healing means becoming anchored enough in who you are that you can look back and finally see the whole story.” Have you been proverbially driving around the hard places in your life instead of through them? Last week, I got to return to the farm where I grew up, a place full of both beauty and pain. And I was unprepared for what happened when I finally drove up the driveway. What I found wasn't the weight of trauma I had expected. Instead, I discovered something I hadn't anticipated: sweet healing. This episode is about so much more — selective memory, the necessity and the danger — of locking away painful chapters, and what it truly means to be a fully integrated, embodied woman. Through an unexpected encounter with the family now living on my childhood farm, I was beautifully reminded that the magic is often laced within the hard memories, not in spite of them. In this episode, you'll explore: Why we selectively remember and what it costs usHow staying disembodied from painful experiences dims your entire beingThe power of borrowing someone else's courage to face what you've been avoidingWhy you can't be grateful and bitter — or grateful and traumatized — at the same timeWhat it means to embody all of your identity, not just the easy partsWhether it's a childhood home, a past marriage, a failed business partnership, or a parenting moment you're not proud of — this episode is your invitation to tiptoe back in, take another look, and reclaim the parts of yourself you thought were better left locked away. You are a fully integrated woman. It's time to light up every room. Join the Girl Out of Order Facebook Tribe! https://www.facebook.com/groups/girloutoforder Let's Connect! https://www.thechristinegale.com/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/christine-d-gale-esq-0b899b204/ https://www.facebook.com/christine.salsberrygale/ https://www.instagram.com/thechristinegale/

"Your brain is the strongest pharmacy on planet Earth. You get to activate that inner pharmacy. You are the doctor of your life — and you are prescribing to yourself every single day." — Dr. Anna Marie Frank What if your body has been trying to tell you something for years — and you just haven't known how to listen? In this powerful episode, we sit down with Dr. Anna Marie Frank, traditional naturopath, herbalist, and author of Stop Bullying Yourself, to explore the profound connection between mindset, biology, and healing. Dr. Anna Marie Frank shares how she healed her own depression and chronic health challenges through natural medicine, energy work, and radical mindset shifts — without relying on pharmaceuticals. She breaks down why your thoughts literally change your biochemistry, how epigenetics proves your genes are not your destiny, and why most people are "asleep at the wheel" of their own lives. Whether you're navigating divorce, recovering from injury, struggling with anxiety, or simply ready to take back control of your health and happiness — this episode will leave you empowered, energized, and armed with tools you can use TODAY. Connect With Dr. Anna Marie: Instagram: @dr.anna.marie Website: happyholeyou.com Book: Stop Bullying Yourself — available now  Dr. Anna Marie Frank—known as The Mindset Doctor™—helps successful professionals get unstuck, conquer mental barriers, and create extraordinary lives by rewiring the brain and reconnecting to the body’s wisdom. Through her signature 6R’s Success Rewire Method™ and Activate Your Inner Pharmacy™ keynote, she blends neuroscience, natural medicine, and mindset transformation to help individuals and organizations improve performance, mental health, and productivity—without sacrificing joy or purpose. She is also host of The Happy Whole You™ Podcast, author of Stop Bullying Yourself! and the upcoming Activate Your Extraordinary, and a sought-after keynote speaker helping leaders activate clarity, confidence, and sustainable success.

"Waiting until you feel ready is just fear dressed up a little fancy." What if two minutes could literally change your life? This week, I am packing my bags and heading to Indianapolis for Mic Drop Live! I get the privilege of giving a two-minute talk in front of real booking agents. Does I feel ready? Absolutely not. Am I going to storm the sage with confidence anyway? Absolutely! In this quick-fire episode, I'm sharing the three truths that will help you stop waiting and start doing — whether your moment is on a stage, in a boardroom, or in your own living room. In this episode: Why "ready" is a myth (and what to do instead)Why your 2-minute moment won't wait for youHow small brave equals a big lifeThe world needs the biggest version of you. Go grab your moment.  Subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with a woman who needs to hear it. Join the Girl Out of Order Facebook Tribe! https://www.facebook.com/groups/girloutoforder Let's Connect! https://www.thechristinegale.com/ https://www.facebook.com/christine.salsberrygale/ https://www.instagram.com/thechristinegale/

"As a Latina, we're taught to persevere and be strong and keep going — but nobody tells you to get help." Leia Baez Trigger Warning: This episode contains discussion of childhood sexual abuse — please listen with care. In this raw, powerful, and deeply personal episode of the Girl Out of Order podcast, I sit down with my friend and fellow speaker sister Leia Baez — Omaha-based author, keynote speaker, communications director, and self-described overcomer.  Leia opens up about the childhood abuse she buried for over two decades, how she turned to alcohol as a coping mechanism starting in her teenage years, and how that addiction spiraled through college, marriage, career success, and eventually a devastating divorce and year-long custody battle over her daughter. But this is not a story of loss — it's a story of relentless return. Leia's message is simple and profound: the path back to yourself is possible, no matter how many years you've spent running from your truth. Connect with Leah:  https://www.leiabaez.com/ https://www.amazon.com/Star-Stella-Mothers-Journey-Overcome/dp/1637307098 https://www.leiabaez.com/5-lessons-from-my-oprah-interview/ Keep being a girl out of order because the world needs what only YOU can provide! xoxo--Christine

“If your identity is outdated, your future will be too.” What if the life you’ve been calling realistic… isn’t actually what’s possible for you? In this powerful Season 1 finale of Girl Out of Order, we challenge you to stop living inside invisible limits and start expanding what you believe is available—for your life, your relationships, your finances, and your future. Because most women don’t stop dreaming overnight. They slowly stop believing. 1. You cannot create a life beyond what you believe is available to you. Your limits aren't your circumstances — they're the invisible ceilings you've accepted as reality. Bust through them. 2. Your identity sets your ceiling. Everything traces back to how you answer the question: Who am I? You don't get what you want — you get what aligns with who you believe you are. 3. Take aligned, messy action. Clarity doesn't come before the action — it comes from the action. Stop waiting to feel ready. Done is better than perfect. If you’ve been playing small, settling for “comfortable,” or waiting until you feel ready—this episode is your wake-up call. It’s time to rewrite what’s possible. Subscribe, leave a review, and share this episode with a woman who needs to hear it. Join the Girl Out of Order Facebook Tribe! https://www.facebook.com/groups/girloutoforder Let's Connect! https://www.thechristinegale.com/ https://www.facebook.com/christine.salsberrygale/ https://www.instagram.com/thechristinegale/