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A Slight Change of Plans

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This podcast has
198 episodes
Language
English
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No
Date created
2021/04/06
Latest episode
2026/10/20
Average duration
45 min.
Release period
11 days

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What happens when life doesn’t go according to plan? In this award-winning podcast, cognitive scientist Dr. Maya Shankar explores how we experience change and strategies we can use to better navigate moments of upheaval. Maya’s life took a dramatic turn when an injury ended her career as a violinist and inspired her to study the science of change. Named Apple Podcasts’ Best Show of the Year, A Slight Change of Plans features deeply personal stories and scientific insights about who we are and who we become in the face of a big change. Past guests include Kacey Musgraves, Brené Brown, Ruby Bridges, Amanda Knox, Adam Grant, Angela Duckworth and more. Whether it’s a sudden pivot or a slow transformation, each episode reveals how change can give us an opportunity to reimagine who we are and unlock greater possibility. You can follow Maya on instagram @DrMayaShankar and read her free newsletter at changewithmaya.com.   Get early, ad-free access to episodes of A Slight Change of Plans by subscribing to Pushkin+ on Apple Podcasts or Pushkin.fm. Pushkin+ subscribers can access ad-free episodes, full audiobooks exclusive binges, and bonus content for all Pushkin shows.  Subscribe on Apple: apple.co/pushkinSubscribe on Pushkin: pushkin.fm/plus

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Letting Go of Control Through Tiny Experiments
2026/10/20
Neuroscientist Anne-Laure Le Cunff was climbing the ranks at a big tech company, and had ambitious plans for her future—when a health scare made her rethink her relationship with control.  In this episode, Anne-Laure explains why we cling to plans, scripts, and to-do lists when life gets uncertain, and how we can learn to meet these moments with curiosity instead. She talks to Maya about how to develop a more experimental mindset and embrace new possibilities within the unknown. Check out Anne-Laure’s latest book, “Tiny Experiments: How to Live Freely in a Goal-Obsessed World.” And if this episode resonated with you, check out a previous Slight Change episode, “When Productivity Becomes Pathological,” with Judith Joseph. Also, A Slight Change of Plans wants to hear from you!  What helps you navigate moments of uncertainty? Maybe it was advice someone gave you, a mantra you now repeat, or something surprising you discovered in your own moment of transition. Share your reflections with us in a voice memo and tell us why those lessons have stayed with you.  You can email your voice memo to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at (646) 397-8557. You may be featured in an upcoming episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Reckoning with the Empty Nest
2026/10/13
Writer Kelly Corrigan always knew her daughters would grow up and eventually move out. But knowing this chapter of parenthood would end didn’t make it any less heartbreaking when the time came. In today’s episode, we’re revisiting Maya’s conversation with Kelly about learning to let go, and how our relationships can evolve when the people we love no longer need us in quite the same way.  For more on Kelly, check out her podcast, “Kelly Corrigan Wonders” and her PBS show, “Tell Me More.” Also, A Slight Change of Plans wants to hear from you!  What helps you navigate moments of uncertainty? Maybe it was advice someone gave you, a mantra you now repeat, or something surprising you discovered in your own moment of transition. Share your reflections with us in a voice memo and tell us why those lessons have stayed with you.  You can email your voice memo to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at (646) 397-8557. You may be featured in an upcoming episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Why We Crave Closeness — and Run From It
2026/10/06
Neuroscientist Amir Levine studies attachment styles – how comfortable we feel with emotional intimacy and how sensitive we are to disruptions in our relationships. For decades, scientists have believed that this wiring is fixed and largely determined by our early childhood experiences. But research by Amir and others in the field has upended this view.  This week Amir shares with Maya how we can learn to shift our attachment orientation no matter our starting point and bring out our most secure selves.  Check out Amir’s latest book, “Secure: The Revolutionary Guide to Creating a Secure Life,” and take this quiz on attachment styles to learn more about your own.  Also, A Slight Change of Plans wants to hear from you!  What helps you navigate moments of uncertainty? Maybe it was advice someone gave you, a mantra you now repeat, or something surprising you discovered in your own moment of transition. Share your reflections with us in a voice memo and tell us why those lessons have stayed with you.  You can email your voice memo to [email protected] or leave us a voicemail at (646)397-8557. You may be featured in an upcoming episode. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Leaving the Life You Trained For
2026/09/24
Professional violinist Vijay Gupta grew up performing on the world’s biggest stages in order to fulfill his parents' dreams for him. But the pressure to play perfectly became too much, and over time he lost his love of the violin. Then Vijay started performing in homeless shelters and mental health clinics, where audiences wanted something very different from him: not perfection, but connection.  This week, Vijay joins Maya to share how those experiences rekindled his passion for music, and gave him the courage to walk away from his parents’ dreams towards his own. Check out Vijay’s new book, “Restrung: A Memoir of Music and Transformation,” and learn more about his work with Street Symphony at StreetSymphony.org. For Fun: Watch young violinists Vijay and Maya on PBS’s Reading Rainbow in 1996, “Zin! Zin! Zin! A Violin.” For more episodes like this, we recommend our conversation with Shira Gabriel, “Why Experiencing Awe With Others Feels So Magical.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Petra Mathers and Her Michael | From Death of an Artist
2026/09/15
Here’s a preview of another Pushkin podcast, one that explores many of the topics we cover here on A Slight Change of Plans: grief, jealousy, anger, and awe. It’s called Death of an Artist.  In February 2024, celebrated children’s book author and illustrator Petra Mathers and her husband, photographer Michael Mathers, mailed letters to dozens of friends and family members to let them know they had died by suicide. Petra and Michael were by all accounts healthy, happy, and deeply in love. As much a love story as one about death, it begs the question: what did that decision do to the people left to mourn them? Journalists Leon Neyfakh and Alice Gregory set out to interview everyone who got one of Petra and Michael’s letters—as one married couple trying to understand another. Told through intimate conversations with Petra and Michael’s friends and family about their own relationships to aging, grief, death, and the friends they thought they knew, Death of an Artist weaves together a portrait of a community grappling with the Mathers’ deaths and the final words they left behind. Search for Death of an Artist wherever you get podcasts. And get early, ad-free access to the entire season now by subscribing to Pushkin+ on the Apple Podcasts show page or at pushkin.fm/plus. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
What a Therapist Learned in Therapy
2026/09/08
Psychotherapist Lori Gottlieb built her career helping people question the stories they tell themselves. But when an unexpected heartbreak left her reeling, she found herself sitting in the patient’s seat – and discovered just how hard it can be to rewrite your own story. This week, Lori joins Maya to share what being a patient taught her about being a therapist, how therapy might not actually be for everyone, and how we can all start to be more honest with ourselves.   Check out Lori’s most recent book, “Maybe You Should Talk to Someone.”  For more A Slight Change of Plans, we recommend our conversation with Julia Samuel, “Lessons from a Grief Therapist.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
“I Have One Goal: Keep You Alive”
2026/08/18
Stephanie Wittels Wachs and her younger brother Harris were best friends. So when he confided that he was struggling with opioid addiction, Steph believed they’d find a way through it together, like they always had. But Harris didn’t survive his addiction.  Steph immersed herself in research on addiction to better understand what her family had been through. This week, Steph joins Maya to share what she’s learned about the disease and how we can help save more lives.  Check out Steph’s new book “Last Day: How to Stop Losing Our Loved Ones to the Opioid Crisis” and find her podcast, “Last Day” wherever you like to listen. For more on addiction and healing, we recommend our conversation with singer-songwriter Jason Isbell, “Jason Isbell on Resisting the Mythos of Sobriety.” If you or someone you love is struggling with addiction or if you’d like to learn more about the topic, resources are available at FindSupport.gov. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Can Uncertainty Be a Gift?
2026/08/04
How can we find resilience, growth, and new possibilities within life’s more unpredictable moments? In this special episode from the podcast, TED Talks Daily, Maya joins journalist and author Simone Stolzoff to talk about how they’ve each explored uncertainty and change from different perspectives. Listen as they draw from their new books, Simone's “How to Not Know” and Maya's “The Other Side of Change,” to discuss why our discomfort with not having the answers might be holding us back, and how to find resilience in the face of change. Find TED Talks Daily wherever you listen to podcasts or here: https://link.mgln.ai/kMxu6e See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Hidden Wounds of Moral Injury
2026/07/23
While deployed to Afghanistan with the U.S. Air Force in 2014, psychologist Michael Valdovinos had an unexpected emotional breakdown. None of the diagnoses he knew best–like PTSD or depression–fit the crisis of conscience he was experiencing. Then he came across the concept of moral injury.  On today’s episode, Michael and Maya explore what happens when our deepest values are violated, the different ways it can occur in everyday life, and how we can start to heal. Check out Michael’s book, “Moral Injuries: When Good Conscience Suffers in a World of Hurt.” If you enjoyed our conversation with Michael and want to hear more from A Slight Change of Plans, we recommend our episode “A Theranos Whistleblower” with Erika Cheung. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Tenacity: Stories about perseverance | From The Story Collider
2026/07/14
As the great Rocky Balboa once said about life: Iit will beat you to your knees and keep you there permanently if you let it.” But in this week’s episode from our friends at The Story Collider, two storytellers share stories of their strength of will and persistence to keep going despite the scientific challenges. Part 1: Coral reef conservationist Emily Darling is at loss when a journalist asks her if she still has hope for coral reefs. Dr Emily Darling is a coral reef scientist at the Wildlife Conservation Society and an Adjunct Professor at the University of Toronto. Her research has won international awards and been featured on National Geographic, Forbes International, CNN, and PBS Nature. She is passionate about the importance of underwater science and works closely with scientists around the world to measure the impact of coral reef conservation. In her spare time, she is (still) learning to sail. Part 2: James Gordon readies himself for another one of his daughter’s heart surgeries. James Gordon is an international award winning author and poet, champion storyteller, and acclaimed actor. James can be seen on Chicago Med as Kent Taylor, Detective Smiley on Amazon's The G, and PA Flanders in Background Extras. Find The Story Collider wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
A Realist’s Guide to Optimism
2026/07/07
Deepika Chopra, a clinical psychologist, has a problem with the way optimism is often defined. Real optimism, she says, shouldn’t be about always expecting the best, because sometimes the bad thing will happen. Instead, she wants us to expect the best from ourselves.  On today’s episode, Deepika joins Maya to talk about the deeply personal experience that changed her understanding of optimism – and how to hold onto hope while staying planted in reality.  Check out Deepika’s book, “The Power of Real Optimism: A Practical, Science-Based Guide to Staying Resilient, Curious, and Open Even When Life Is Hard.”If you enjoyed our conversation with Deepika and want to hear more from A Slight Change of Plans, we recommend these episodes: “You Have More Influence Than You Think” with Vanessa Bohns “Why We Avoid Conversations That Would Make Us Happier” with Nick Epley “How to Build Empathy and Avoid Burnout” with Jamil Zaki See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
When Panic Takes Over – And How to Break Free
2026/06/16
Amazon editors just chose Maya’s new book, “The Other Side of Change,” as one of the Best Books of 2026 So Far! To celebrate, we’re sharing a chapter from the audiobook with you today.  Journalist Matt Gutman spent years reporting live from high-pressure situations all over the world. Calm and collected on camera, he was privately dealing with panic attacks behind the scenes. Then, after an on-air mistake jeopardized his livelihood, Matt fell into a seemingly endless cycle of negative thoughts.  Order “The Other Side of Change: Who We Become When Life Makes Other Plans” at changewithmaya.com/book, or wherever you like to buy books. If you’ve already read “The Other Side of Change,” leave a quick review here:  Check out some of Maya’s favorite episodes of “A Slight Change of Plans” here.  A Black Musician Takes on the KKK - Daryl Davis (Spotify) (Apple) Wired for Change - John Elder Robinson (Spotify) (Apple) “Grieving the Man I Thought My Husband Was” - Susan Messing (Spotify) (Apple) A Theranos Whistleblower - Erica Cheung (Spotify) (Apple) The Science of Regret - Daniel Pink (Spotify) (Apple) The Science of Making (and Keeping) Friends - Marisa Franco  (Spotify) (Apple) How Awe Transforms Us - Dacher Keltner (Spotify) (Apple) Brené Brown on Our Flawed, Imperfect Selves - Brené Brown (Spotify) (Apple) Looking for more? Explore six years of inspiring stories of change and science-backed insights for a happier, healthier life here. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Caitlin Lost the Voice in Her Head
2026/06/09
Today we’re bringing you an episode from Proxy, a show built around a simple idea: Whatever you might be going through — no matter how specific or hard to explain – you’re not alone. There is someone else out there, somewhere, who truly gets it – and they might have just the advice you need to hear.  In this episode, a writer who loses her inner narrator grapples with what happens when you can’t do the thing you love the most anymore — the thing you’ve built your whole life and identity around — and gets help from another artist who’s gone through something similar. You can find more episodes of Proxy at https://www.proxypodcast.com/, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
The Science of True Fun
2026/06/03
As adults, it’s easy to think of fun as a luxury – something we’ll get around to after everything else is done. But science journalist Catherine Price says fun is essential to our wellbeing. On today’s episode, Catherine joins Maya to talk about the difference between true fun and fake fun, and how making space for the real thing can leave us feeling more energized and restored. Check out Catherine’s book, “The Power of Fun: How To Feel Alive Again.” If you enjoyed our conversation with Catherine, we recommend our episode with Priya Parker, “The Art and Science of Gathering.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
When Grief Remakes You
2026/05/28
In 2023, Allie Kramer’s three-year-old son Theo was diagnosed with terminal brain cancer. In the months and years that followed Theo’s diagnosis, Allie tried to keep a steel grip on her “old” life. Until she realized that that life didn’t exist anymore. This week, Allie joins Maya to talk about what it means to survive something that changes you so completely, you cannot go back to who you were. For more on the topic of grief, we recommend this one from our archive: “Lessons from A Grief Therapist.”  Find Allie’s podcast, “Worst Club Ever” wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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4.7 out of 5
1981 reviews
★☆☆☆☆
ItsSid23 2026/10/12
The ads.
I was so excited to start this podcast until there were ads for AI. (ChatGPT) To be honestly, not worth the listen if you’re earning a commission from...
★☆☆☆☆
Flameonyou 2026/09/15
Like the show not the ads
I felt compelled to write a negative review in response to the revolting ads in this podcast and all over social media. I would call it a moral injury...
★★★★★
Ohio Vick 2026/07/25
Moral Injury episode
Thank you Maya for provided me a explanation of a personal experience. When I retired from a position that has expectations against my moral values, I...
★★★★★
Sheila@theplace 2026/07/09
Recommend
Interesting and intelligent interviews
★★★★★
Ali Schuback 2026/06/17
Thank you
Maya, Thank you for including that excerpt from your book, it sounds fabulous. I of course, had no idea of Matt Gutman. However enables Me to have a...
★☆☆☆☆
HuriMatt 2026/04/03
I stopped listening!
I found the episodes with Amanda Knox pretty disturbing. It felt like Maya positioned herself as a subject matter expert, bringing her back again and ...
★★★★★
Naomiruth 2026/02/04
Love this podcast
This is my favorite podcast. Without fail, these stories will get to me. Even when I couldn't imagine identifying with a particular guest. Maya is a m...
★★★★★
GriefRabbit 2025/12/07
Wonderful Insights
Zamil was a great guest and I loved your conversation. Her story teaches all of us so many lessons but her advice and insights are the icing on the ca...
★★★★★
BrittBC05 2025/11/07
This podcast saved me
This podcast came to me JUST when I needed it. 2025 has been one of the most difficult years of my life with some of the scariest lows I’ve ever felt....
★☆☆☆☆
bgyvju7osdn5cqz1wp4k6xt80f3i2a 2025/08/19
Murderer Amanda Knox?
Excuse me? Come again? Amanda Knox? The murderer? What is actually going on at your pathetic podcast? We demand ANSWERS N * O * W * ! * ! * !
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