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Waweru asserts gold isn't valuable, Liam decides Factory is a made up word, and we argue why fathers love their children.   The Metademe restricts publication of this book for Discussion of Colonialism Discussion of Homophobia Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our discussion read chapters 7 and 8 for next time! Support the show

Johnny embraces Marxism but for science, Waweru proposes colonialism is good because you get books, and Liam thinks you can dark souls roll in real life The Metademe restricts publication of this book for: Description of Eugenic practices Discussion of Colonialism Discussion of Homophobia Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our discussion read chapters 4-6 for next time! Support the show

Waweru endorses the divine right of kings, Liam thinks societies should be analyzed based on lizard size, and we criticize Wikipedia for citing it's sources. Discussion of rape and cosent in literature. - Jo Walton's review of 40,000 in Gehenna - Jo Walton's review of Regenesis  - Nader Elhefnawy's review of Regenesis - Roundup of 40,000 in Gehenna by Book Club  - Alan Brown's review of Downbelow Station - Wikipedia Article on Themes in C.J. Cherryh - "The Human as Other in the Science Fiction Novels of C. J. Cherryh".pg 133 - Meal of Thorns Support the show

Waweru does a magic trick, Liam hates sequels, and we wondewr if communism improves books. Russ Albery Discussion of Military Coups Discussion of Bad Constitutional Design  Support the show

Waweru says it's a crime to want grandchildren, Liam loves sequels, and we wonder if defeating coups is bad. Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+  Discussion of Military Coups Discussion of Bad Constitutional Design  Support the show

Waweru rants about color revolutions, Liam accuses the Founders of being coup-curious, and we praise the moral values of Ariane Emory I. Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+  Discussion of Military Coups Discussion of Bad Constitutional Design  Support the show

Waweru debates supporting revolutionary centrism, Liam identifies with autocrats, and we critcize the framers for being lazy Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+  Discussion of Military Coups Discussion of Bad Constitutional Design  Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our review please finish Book 3 section 5 Support the show

Waweru advocates for f*****y rights, Liam asserts healthy relationships are a red flag, and we throw rocks while living in constitutional glass houses.    Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+  Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our review please read Book 3 sections 5 through chapter 12. Support the show

 Waweru insists planets all have the same length of year, Liam forgets people speak languages other than English, we discuss whether Harry Potter speaks Chinese Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+ Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our review please read Book 3 sections 3 and 4 Support the show

Waweru wonders why people want restaurants, Liam says that economic research is worthless, and we decide that people who love their homes should be confined to them. Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+ Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our review please read Book 3 sections 1 and 2 Support the show

Waweru claims libertarians can't predict things, Liam says the best kind of person to be is a bad guest, and we discover men and women are different. Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+ Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our review please read Book 2 Support the show

Waweru suggests prison as a family bonding activity, Liam thinks ambition always precedes death, and we think it's unfair to ask questions when conducting criminal investigations. Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 70+ Remember to subscribe in your preferred podcasting portal and Support the show. To keep with our review please read Section 3 Support the show

Waweru disavows peacemakers, Liam denies the existence of bastards, and we support mass deforestation for the sake of a farflung elite.  Reseune Educational Publications: Approved for 60+ Discussion of abusive parents Discussion of Paxer ideology Support the show

Waweru doesn't read the essays, Liam wishes he didn't, and we argue about whether it should be legal for teachers to be fans of the x-men. https://reactormag.com/designing-people-and-societies-cj-cherryhs-cyteen/ * Contains a line about Regenesis (Edited out of version received by Liam) https://reactormag.com/who-killed-ariane-emory-cj-cherryhs-cyteen/ * Contains info from Regenesis blurb https://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/reviews/books/0-446-67127-4.html * Contains a line about Regenesis (Edited out of version received by Liam) https://philpapers.org/rec/TURATA * Contains a line about Regenesis The Following are in Cherryh's Odyssey  "C.J. Cherryh's Fiction" – by Burton Raffel  "Of Emorys and Warricks: Self-Creation in Cyteen" – by Susan Bernardo  "Dr. Ariane Emory, Sr.: Psychopath—Or Savior?" – by Elizabeth Romey Support the show

Waweru argues against radical change, Liam argues red lobster is insufficiently red, We publicly accuse a cardinal of being mildly rude Support the show