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About 32% of people in Taiwan identify as both Taiwanese and Chinese, while diaspora from Taiwan in America tend to identify as solely one or the other. We talk about blending Chinese, Taiwanese, and American identity with Michelle Kuo and Albert Wu. Michelle and Albert moved back to their heritage country mid-career and have been sharing their Asian American observations and introspections about living in Taiwan in their weekly newsletter, A Broad and Ample Road. Featuring Michelle Kuo and Albert Wu: Remembering Michelle’s grandmother in A Broad and Ample RoadReflecting on Albert’s mother in A Broad and Ample RoadIs “Asian-American” a viable category? in A Broad and Ample RoadBreaking Bad review by Albert Wu and Michelle Kuo in the Los Angeles Review of Books, their first collaborationReading with Patrick by Michelle Kuo (陪你讀下去 in Taiwan)Michelle Kuo: @kuokuomich on Twitter and Instagram Albert Wu: @albertowu on TwitterAbout Michelle: Michelle Kuo is a visiting professor in the law program at National Taiwan University. She has worked with Teach for America, the Criminal Justice Institute, the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, Centro Legal de la Raza, the Prison University Project at San Quentin, RAICES, and the Stanford Three Strikes Project. She has started a nonprofit, Dialogue & Transformation, which works to create dialogue among formerly incarcerated people across the world. About Albert: Albert Wu is a global historian, focusing particularly on the transnational connections between Germany and China, the history of religion, and the history of medicine. He is currently an Associate Research Fellow at the Institute of History and Philology, Academia Sinica. After studying history at Columbia University, he has taught at the American University of Paris, UC Berkeley (where he earned his PhD), and the Prison University Project at San Quentin State Prison. Vocab: 外省人 waishengren - Family from mainland China who moved to Taiwan to escape Communism in the late 1940s 本省人 benshengren - Family who was already in Taiwan when waishengren came Other resources mentioned: Changes in the Taiwanese/Chinese identity of Taiwanese as Tracked in Surveys by the Election Study Center, NCCU (1992-2021)The Ethics of Identity by Kwame Anthony AppiahI've Got the Light of Freedom by Charles M. PayneConnect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

The mass shooting at the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, CA has sparked conversation about the significance of the Presbyterian Church for many Taiwanese individuals. Annie and Angela interview Christine Lin, a lawyer and expert on the history and influence of the Presbyterian Church in Taiwan who also conducts research on Taiwanese American identity. The hosts also share their own experiences with Christianity. Featuring Christine Lin: Respond to Christine’s current research: “Survey of Taiwanese Americans on Identity Issues”, 2022“The Presbyterian Church in Taiwan and the Advocacy of Local Autonomy” (PDF) by Christine Louise Lin for Sino-Platonic Papers, 1999“What Impacts a Taiwanese Americans' Political Identity?” by Christine Lin for Chinese America: History & Perspectives–The Journal of the Chinese Historical Society of America, Special Issue: Taiwanese Americans, 2017Christine Lin quoted in “Gunman Targets Taiwanese Faith With Long Pro-Democracy Link” (Associated Press)Contact Christine Lin on LinkedInAbout Christine: Christine Lin is a Taiwanese American lawyer. Her research on the topic of the Presbyterian Church in Taiwan inspired her to pursue a career in human rights, refugee, and immigration law. Currently, she is the Director of Training and Technical Assistance at the Center for Gender & Refugee Studies based at UC Hastings College of the Law where she has taught the Refugee & Human Rights Clinic. Previously, she was the Legal Director of Hong Kong Refugee Advice Centre and taught refugee legal assistance clinics at the University of Hong Kong and the Chinese University of Hong Kong. More resources: Major branches of Christianity (Wikipedia)Presbyterian Church USA allows same-sex marriages (NPR, 2015)Related episode: “Taiwanese by the Numbers” (Hearts in Taiwan, August 5, 2021)New York Times interview that consulted Christine Lin and interviewed Annie and Angela: "Coming From Separate Worlds in Taiwan, They Collided at California Church" (https://nyti.ms/3mDXG2q)Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan buymeacoffee.com/heartsintaiwan ← Buy us a boba! heartsintaiwan.com

The Chinese name for America, 美国/美國/měiguó, translates to “Beautiful Country”. We talked with author Jane Kuo about her experience as a 1.5-generation immigrant bridging Chinese, Taiwanese, and American identity. Her family’s pursuit of the American Dream inspired her debut novel In the Beautiful Country which is available for pre-order before its June 28 release (delayed from June 14 due to supply chain issues). Featuring Jane Kuo: In the Beautiful Country by Jane Kuojanekuo.com for upcoming tour dates and projectsinstagram.com/janekuowritesfacebook.com/janekuowritestwitter.com/janekuowrites About Jane: Jane Kuo is a Chinese and Taiwanese American writer. She is an immigrant and the daughter of immigrants. Jane grew up in Los Angeles in the 1980s and as a child, she spent her weekends and summers working in her family’s fast food restaurant. Jane’s middle grade novel, In the Beautiful Country, is a fictional story inspired by the events of her childhood. Other works mentioned: Inside Out and Back Again by Thanhha LaiMaslow’s hierarchy of needs (Wikipedia)Asian Comedian Destroys America!, Ronny Chieng’s first special on NetflixEnglish language writing by Taiwanese Americans about the May 15 shooting in Laguna Woods, California Brian Hioe for New Bloom Magazine, “Confusion About ‘Chinese’ Or ‘Taiwanese’ Identity Of Gunman After Shooting At Taiwanese Church In California”HoChie Tsai and Leona Chen for TaiwaneseAmerican.org, “We grieve the May 15th Shooting at Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church”Jocelyn Chung for USA Today, “Church shooting is deeply personal for us as Taiwanese Americans”A prayer by Jocelyn’s ama for the Irvine Taiwanese Presbyterian Church (Instagram video in Taiwanese with English translation in the caption)Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

Who were the Taiwanese before they called themselves Taiwanese? In this episode, we’re going back to school for a crash course in history with Dr. Evan Dawley. We discuss identity on the island before the Japanese colonial period, the influences of Japanese colonizers and the Kuomintang-led Republic of China, and identity among the modern Chinese diaspora. This historical overview of the formation and evolution of the Taiwanese identity provides context for present day conversations. Resources mentioned: Becoming Taiwanese: Ethnogenesis in a Colonial City, 1880s to 1950s (Harvard University Press) by Evan N. Dawley, Chinese edition (NTU Press)TaiwanPrimarySources.com, collected by Wayne Soon (Vassar College) and Evan Dawley (Goucher College)The 4th World Congress of Taiwan Studies, June 27 to 29, 2022 in Seattle, WashingtonOrphan of Asia by Zhuoliu WuGreen Island by Shawna Yang RyanTrends of Core Political Attitudes survey data by the Election Study Center at National Chengchi UniversityThe Good Immigrants: How the Yellow Peril Became the Model Minority by Madeline HsuThe Great Exodus from China: Trauma, Memory, and Identity in Modern Taiwan by Dominic YangAmerican Exodus: Second-Generation Chinese Americans in China, 1901–1949 by Charlotte BrooksRemembering China from Taiwan: Divided Families and Bittersweet Reunions after the Chinese Civil War by Mahlon Meyer“The War in Ukraine Has Unleashed a New Word” by Timothy Snyder for The New York Times MagazineMore publications by Evan DawleyAbout Evan: Evan Dawley is Associate Professor of History at Goucher College, where he has taught since 2013, and he previously worked in the Office of the Historian at the U.S. Department of State. His research relates to modern East Asian history, with particular attention to Taiwan, China, and Japan, as well as identity formation, imperialism, and international/transnational history. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

We hope that sharing this conversation helps anyone who has chased top grades, Instagram followers, performance ratings and promotions at work, or other external metrics of success. Taking and sharing personality tests teaches us new things about ourselves and each other.  We discover that we each have a strong inner tiger parent, and we discuss the paradox that seeking external validation actually ends up blocking deeper social connections. Throughout, we realize how our respective beliefs about our own self-worth manifest differently in our podcast partnership. Take the personality tests: 16personalities.com/free-personality-test personalitypath.com/free-enneagram-personality-test Personality Types mentioned about ourselves: Enneagram Type 1: Perfectionist Enneagram Type 3: Achiever Enneagram Type 5: Investigator 16 Personalities ISTJ Logistician Also mentioned: Myers-Briggs MBTI® Types Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

Inspired by our conversation with Carey Lai, hosts Angela and Annie share the rocky beginnings of starting their careers in the early ‘00s when nobody was hiring after the dot-com bubble burst. We also share a different way of looking at the career journey to get around leadership ceilings. Mentioned: “10 big dot-com flops” (money.cnn.com) “Careers are a jungle gym, not a ladder” - excerpt from Lean In by Sheryl Sandberg Related episode: Bringing Taiwanese values to entrepreneurship with Carey Lai (Hearts in Taiwan S2E3) Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

“Budget Conscious | Authentic Relationships | Integrity”—these values distinguish Conductive Ventures from other venture capital firms that hold the keys to which startups get funding in Silicon Valley. Our guest Carey Lai shares how his story and shared values with co-founder Paul Yeh have shaped their unique formula for investment that have led to a portfolio of companies that is two-thirds led by minorities and first-generation immigrants. Featuring: Conductive Ventures (conductive.vc) Sand Hill Road as the epicenter of venture capital (Wikipedia) The story behind Bay Area dim sum legend Koi Palace (Eater) Related episode: Hearts in Japan (Hearts in Taiwan S1E14) About our guest: Carey Lai is a Founding Member and Managing Director at Conductive Ventures which focuses on investments in the areas of software, hardware and technology enabled services. Prior to Conductive Ventures, Carey spent over four years investing at Intel Capital. He also worked at Institutional Venture Partners and the Technology Investment Banking Group at Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Carey has an M.B.A. from the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania, and he graduated with a B.A. in International Economics from the University of California Los Angeles. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

Whether you call your grandmother “amah”, “popo”, “waipo”, “nainai”, “mama”, “grandma”, or something else, she plays a key role in your connection to your heritage. Amah Faraway tells the story of how young Kylie transforms from feeling unsure and reluctant to embracing her grandmother and her heritage country. We got to talk with author Margaret Chiu Greanias and illustrator Tracy Subisak and found many common threads that the Taiwanese diaspora will see reflected throughout this delightful picture book. Where to buy Amah Faraway: Signed by Margaret (Linden Tree Books)Signed by Tracy (Green Bean Books)Your preferred booksellersMargaret Chiu Greanias TwitterInstagramWebsiteTracy Subisak InstagramWebsiteAdditional resources: Chinese family tree (Off the Great Wall video, Mina Learns Chinese Instagram graphics for grandparents, aunts/uncles)Taiwanese family tree (Taiwanese)"Lost Generation", a palindromic poem by Jonathan Reed (video, text)Taiwanese Association of Greater Portland (TAGP)Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

Hosts Annie Wang and Angela Yu kick off Season 2 with an interview of Abigail Hing Wen, author of New York Times bestseller Loveboat, Taipei which is currently being filmed in Taiwan starring Ashley Jiao, Ross Butler, Nico Hiraga, and Chelsea Zhang. The Young Adult novel’s sequel Loveboat Reunion hits bookshelves January 25. We learned how Abigail's family background has shaped her worldview, got a realtime account of what it's like to run around Taiwan with movie stars, and talked frankly about how bamboo and glass ceilings are very real for Asian women in tech. From references to The Baby-Sitters Club and Bridgerton to Angela quoting Abigail's books back to her three times, this conversation is unique to say the least. Featuring: Follow @abigailhingwen on Instagram Subscribe to Abigail's newsletter on abigailhingwen.com Where to buy: Loveboat, TaipeiLoveboat ReunionSerendipity featuring "The Idiom Algorithm", a short story by Abigail Hing WenIf you're interested in a similar immersive cultural camp for the current generation of Taiwanese American youth who have completed grades 4 through 12, look into Leading Youth Forward (LYF) Camp organized by the Taiwanese American Citizens League and held in the San Francisco Bay Area. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

Hearts in Taiwan podcast is back with a second season! Hosts Annie Wang and Angela Yu share what you can look forward to this year. Connect: instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

Was it crazy for two women in their 40s with kids, full-time jobs, and no media experience to start a podcast during the pandemic? From our first emails in January, we never would have guessed that by September we’d be wrapping our first season with 18 episodes and hundreds of listeners. In this episode, we look at the progress we’ve made on our journey so far, what we’ve learned about ourselves and each other, and the surprises we’ve encountered along the way. We reveal popular episodes and our favorites, then share what’s in store ahead. Connect Rate and review Get an email when we publish next instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com

As English-speaking parents living outside our heritage country, we discuss how we go about passing our culture on to our kids. From seeking out Mandarin Immersion schools and caregivers, cultivating our kids' palates to appreciate Taiwanese food, and planning to visit Taiwan regularly for family vacations (when we can again!), we share what’s worked and what hasn’t across our kids ranging from age 4 to 12. Angela also shares the many new resources that have cropped up from entrepreneurs in the past 5 years to help parents like us. Links: NTNU Mandarin summer camp Mina Learns Chinese Instagram Reels featuring shows and movies on Netflix and Disney+ with Mandarin audio tracks Go! Go! Cory Carson on Netflix by Alex Woo and Stanley Moore of Kuku Studios Alok Menon on Instagram normalizing body hair and trans beauty La La Learn app for iPhone and iPad by Alice Han featuring children’s songs in Mandarin Hearts in Taiwan raising bilingual kids resources page lists all the books we mentioned and more (https://heartsintaiwan.com/raising-bilingual-kids) Connect (check for our giveaway here!): instagram.com/heartsintaiwan facebook.com/heartsintaiwan heartsintaiwan.com/voicemail