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Behind Our Science

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34 episodes
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Date created
2021/05/13
Latest episode
2026/08/31
Average duration
43 min.
Release period
52 days

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Behind Our Science Podcast aims to close the gap in understanding the complex mechanisms driving disease formation and engage the general public and research advocates. We will engage the public by explaining the latest exciting biomedical innovations in simple terms free from jargon and emphasize the importance of supporting continued research in the biomedical sciences. We will explain the importance of how understanding fundamental mechanisms driving diseases provides a solid foundation for breakthroughs in scientific research.https://asippathways.com/behind-our-science/

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Episode 38.1(Mini Episode)—The Biological Cost of Trauma. Dr. Eric Kendle, El Paso VA Chief of Staff
2026/08/31
We spent two episodes tracing trauma all the way down to the cell — misfolded proteins, hijacked reward circuits, and an alarm system stuck in the "on" position. But a discovery on a lab bench doesn't heal anyone on its own. Someone has to build the system that turns that science into care. In this mini-episode, we meet that someone. Before the finale of our 3-part mini-series, we sit down with Dr. Eric Kendle, Chief of Staff of the El Paso VA Health Care System — and few people alive are better positioned to talk about trauma from every angle. Two questions anchor the conversation: How do you move trauma science from the lab bench to the bedside? And what does it actually take to build a healthcare system in El Paso that treats the whole Veteran — mind and cell? This is the human and institutional bridge between the biology (Episodes 1 & 2, with researchers from Mayo Clinic and Rutgers) and the solution (Part 3: The Community Cure). — FEATURED GUEST — Dr. Eric D. Kendle, MD — Chief of Staff, El Paso VA Health Care System. A retired Air Force Colonel with 22 years of service, Dr. Kendle served as a flight surgeon and trauma surgeon through two tours in Iraq, treating the sharp end of combat trauma at Baghdad's Sather Air Base. He earned his MD at the University of Arizona College of Medicine, spent over a decade as a trauma and acute-care surgeon, and has led VA medical staffs in Tucson, the Texas Valley Coastal Bend, Phoenix, and now El Paso. As a Veteran, the son of a Vietnam Veteran, and the father of an Afghanistan Veteran, caring for those who served is deeply personal to him. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eric-kendle-m-d-2517ab12b/  Listen on Spotify / Apple: https://open.spotify.com/show/1nx32tqJHPuBY8eO1dPY1J Watch on Youtube: https://youtu.be/13SNIp7JTys — NEXT IN THE SERIES — Episode 38, Part 3: The Community Cure — the finale. We move from the problem to the solution: policy, advocacy, and cutting-edge biotech targeting trauma at the cellular level. Featuring the El Paso VA, mitochondrial-focused biotech, and trauma-informed policy — what it actually takes to build a community cure at scale. — SPECIAL THANKS — Behind Our Science · MitoGenix Therapeutics LLC · The Histochemical Society · American Society for Investigative Pathobiology · El Paso VA Health Care System — VETERAN SUPPORT & RESOURCES — El Paso Veterans who need mental health care should call the VA's South Central Wellness Center at (915) 564-6159 during business hours (Monday–Friday, 8:00 a.m.–4:30 p.m.). A VA mental health staff member will answer and connect the Veteran to someone who can help right away. After hours and on weekends, the same number automatically transfers to the regional Clinical Contact Center. This process is called "First Contact Resolution." The El Paso VA has crisis teams at all VA facilities who can see Veterans the same day for urgent needs. Veterans who already have a Primary Care Provider can receive same-day mental health care during their primary care visit. Community-based clinics can also respond immediately to Veterans' needs during regular business hours (8:00 a.m.–4:30 p.m.). If you're a Veteran in crisis or concerned about one, contact the Veterans Crisis Line for 24/7 confidential support. You don't have to be enrolled in VA benefits or health care to connect. Dial 988 then Press 1, chat online at VeteransCrisisLine.net/Chat, or text 838255. If you or a Veteran you know needs support, don't wait. Reach out. Explore resources at VA.gov/Reach and take the first step. Like, subscribe, and share to help more people understand what trauma really is — and the biology behind it. #BehindOurScience #biologyoftrauma #veterans #VA #ElPasoVA #mentalhealth #traumainformedcare #neuroscience #VeteranMentalHealth #elpasotx #addiction #podcast
Episode 37-The Biological Cost of Trauma. The Cell's War 2 of 3
2026/08/03
We talk about trauma like it lives in the mind. But what if it lives in the cell — in misfolding proteins, hijacked reward circuits, and an alarm system that never learned to shut off? In Episode 1, we followed the human cost of trauma. In Episode 2, we follow that weight all the way down to where it actually lives: inside the brain, inside the neuron, inside the cell. Two questions drive this episode: Does severe stress physically change the brain? And how does trauma wire the brain for addiction? We sit down with two of the country's leading researchers to answer both — then we break down the amygdala, the brain's alarm system that's great at switching on but has no automatic off switch, and what that "stuck-on" state does to veterans and trauma survivors long after the danger is gone. Neurodegeneration. Addiction. A brain that can't find its off switch. All of it traceable to one root: trauma that was never treated. ▶ Watch on YOUTUBE: https://youtu.be/1mE2Pplv8Sc?si=PPhgtyfCMy0gQsAj — FEATURED GUESTS — Dr. Melissa Murray — Mayo Clinic Florida | Co-Director, Tauopathy Brain Bank | 2026 Rainwater Prize winner:   / melissa-e-murray-012a919  Dr. Cherish Ardinger, MA, MS, Ph.D. — Rutgers University, Cell Biology & Neuroscience (alcohol use disorder & striatal astrocytes) …with more guests across the mini-series. — NEXT IN THE SERIES — Episode 3: The Community Cure — dropping at the end of August. We move from the problem to the solution: policy, advocacy, and cutting-edge biotech targeting trauma at the cellular level. Featuring the El Paso VA, mitochondrial-focused biotech, and trauma-informed policy — what it actually takes to build a community cure at scale. — SPECIAL THANKS — Behind Our Science · MitoGenix Therapeutics · The Histochemical Society · ASIP · El Paso VA El Paso Veterans who need mental health care should call the VA’s South Central Wellness Center at (915) 564-6159 during business hours (Monday–Friday, 8:00 a.m.–4:30 p.m.). A VA mental health staff member will answer and connect the Veteran to someone who can help right away. After hours and on weekends, the same number will automatically transfer to the regional Clinical Contact Center. This process is called “First Contact Resolution.” The El Paso VA has crisis teams at all VA facilities who can see Veterans the same day for urgent needs. Veterans who already have a Primary Care Provider can receive same-day Mental Health Care during their primary care visit. Community-based clinics can also respond immediately to Veterans’ needs during regular business hours (8:00 a.m.–4:30 p.m.). If you’re a Veteran in crisis or concerned about one, contact the Veterans Crisis Line to receive 24/7 confidential support. You don't have to be enrolled in VA benefits or health care to connect. To reach responders, Dial 988 then Press 1, chat online at VeteransCrisisLine.net/Chat, or text 838255. Finally, encourage Veterans to seek help early. If you or a Veteran you know needs support, Don’t wait. Reach out. Explore resources at VA.gov/Reach (https://www.va.gov/reach) and take the first step towards assistance. 👍 Like, subscribe, and share to help more people understand what trauma really is — and the biology behind it. #BehindOurScience #mentalhealth #elpasotx #traumainformedcare #BiologyOfTrauma #neuroscience #addiction #podcast
Episode 36-The Biological Cost of Trauma. The Human Cost-Episode 1 of 3
2026/06/01
The Biology of Trauma — Episode 1 of 3 We talk about trauma like it's a wound to the soul. But what if it has a price tag? And what if you're already paying it without knowing? $458 billion. That's what our society spends every year managing the ripple effects of childhood adversity alone. A $14,000 hospital bill for a single crisis. A 15% pay cut over a decade after a workplace injury. $450,000 in wealth that survivors of childhood trauma never get to build. Trauma is a thief — it doesn't just take your peace, it takes your future. This is Episode 1 of a 3-part mini-series on the biology of trauma and its measurable cost on health, work, and wealth. Featured guests: Marco Vallejo Jr — CFC FoundationIsidro Torres, MBA — NAMI El Paso, mental health support & advocacyDiana G. Yañez, MA, CFP® — financial wellness & the real cost of trauma…with many more guests across the mini-series.Brought to you by: Behind Our Science · MitoGenix Therapeutics LLC · Vik Meadows · Daisy Shu · The Histochemical Society Special thanks: Stephanie Schilling, Beto Pallares, and everyone at 1881 Ventures; the City of El Paso Economic & International Development Department; Mayor Renard Johnson; Dave's Hot Chicken; and Jorge Frausto for the accommodations, help, and support with this important episode and topic. Please share — this has been a fantastic episode with guests who helped us understand what it takes to deal with trauma and the biology behind it. ADVERTISING DISCLOSURE Diana Gisel Yañez is an Investment Advisor Representative of Natural Investments PBLLC (http://www.naturalinvestments.com/). Natural Investments is an independent Registered Investment Advisor. Behind Our Science is not a registered entity and is not an affiliate or subsidiary of Natural Investments. See our Disclosures and Disclaimers (https://www.naturalinvestments.com/disclosures-disclaimers/) and read our Form CRS (https://www.naturalinvestments.com/form-crs/). Diana Gisel Yañez, CFP® (she/her) — Money Coach at All the Colors (http://www.allthecolors.net/), Investment Manager at Natural Investments (https://naturalinvestments.com/advisors/diana-g-yanez/). Highly Sensitive Money Podcast: https://highlysensitivemoney.podbean.com/ Curious about your money archetype? Take the "What Tree is Your Money" quiz: https://form.jotform.com/241009510882855 #BehindOurScience #mentalhealth #elpasotx #traumainformedcare
Episode 35-How Tumors Manipulate Blood Vessels, Dr. Dennis Jones
2026/03/01
Welcome to Episode 35 of Behind Our Science! In celebration of Black History Month, we are incredibly honored to sit down with Dr. Dennis Jones, Associate Professor of Pathology and Laboratory Medicine at Boston University’s Chobanian & Avedisian School of Medicine. Dr. Jones is a distinguished leader in cancer research, whose lab focuses on how tumors manipulate blood vessels to escape the immune system. We discuss his groundbreaking strategies to help immune cells infiltrate and fight metastatic breast cancer, and celebrate his recent honor as the recipient of the 2026 ASIP Cotran Early Career Investigator Award! 🌴 Speaking of ASIP 2026: We are headed to sunny Fort Myers, FL, for #Pathobiology2026! The meeting will be held at the beautiful Luminary Hotel & Co., Autograph Collection, located right on the Caloosahatchee River in the vibrant River District. Learn more and join us: https://pathobiology2026.asip.org/ 🧠 Coming Up Next: "The Biological Cost of Trauma" (3-Part Mini-Series) Trauma isn’t just a memory; it’s a biological event. Launching this March, our new mini-series investigates how trauma rewrites our biology—from our cells to our city streets. • Part 1: The Human Cost • Part 2: The Biological Cost • Part 3: The Community Cure 🔥 Join Us LIVE: Heat, Heroes & Healing Event! We are taking Behind Our Science on the road for a live recording of our trauma mini-series! Come for the heat, stay for the healing. When: Saturday, March 14th | 4:00 PM – 8:00 PM Where: Dave’s Hot Chicken | 7729 Paseo del Norte, El Paso, TX 79912 Hosts: MitoGenix Therapeutics LLC & CFC Foundation Featuring: NAMI-El Paso Director Isidro Torres, and CFC Foundation CEO Marco Vallejos Jr. Activities: $20 Reaper Challenges every 30 mins (win CFC 6 floor tickets!), free CFC 6 GA tickets for the first 10 people who spend $25+, and a massive $5K stretch-goal raffle for a VIP table! (Disclosure: 20% of proceeds from sales on Saturday, March 14th from 4-8 PM from Dave’s Hot Chicken Westside location will be donated directly and uniquely to the CFC Foundation for upcoming clinical studies for TBI in the region.)
Episode 34-How to SciComm
2026/01/31
In this episode, we spoke to Dr. Anu Balogun were we discuss: The Fundamentals of Effective SciComm: How to ditch the jargon and use storytelling, analogies, and the "big picture" to captivate any audience. Building Your Professional Brand: Why a strong online presence and public engagement are becoming essential for modern scientists. SciComm for Career Growth: How effective communication can lead to increased funding, industry interest, and unique networking opportunities. Overcoming "Expert Blindness": Techniques for simplifying your work without "dumbing it down". Platform Strategies: Whether it's social media, podcasting, or public speaking, we discuss which medium fits your personality and career goals best. We are grateful for your continued support of our podcast! Without you, we wouldn't be able to serve our community by sharing behind-the-scenes stories from scientists, providing advice and tips on thriving in research, and practicing honest science communication. We are now raising funds to keep sharing behind our science: https://gofund.me/3cbc92a62 Thank you for tuning in!
Episode 32-Hispanic/Latin heritage month celebration
2025/12/30
Thank you for joining us for Episode 32, where we celebrate Hispanic/Latin Heritage Month and discuss the importance of culture and authenticity in mentoring. In this episode, our co-hosts meet with Dr. Alejandro Adam and Dr. Ramon Bossardi Ramos from Albany Medical College to discuss the importance of celebrating heritage and honoring culture in the lab. From mentoring and holistic lab management to maintaining relationships with past mentors, we explore how being your authentic self is crucial for a successful research career.  We are grateful for your continued support of our podcast! Without you, we wouldn't be able to serve our community by sharing behind-the-scenes stories from scientists, providing advice and tips on thriving in research, and practicing honest science communication. We are now raising funds to keep sharing behind our science: https://gofund.me/3cbc92a62 Thank you for tuning in!
Episode 33-2025 Rewind and Recap
2025/12/30
Welcome to Episode 33 of Behind Our Science! As we close out the year, Roberto, Vik, and Daisy come together to reflect on a fantastic season of science, outreach, and discovery. In this episode, we share a little bit about where we are now and rewind to discuss the highlights of our last 7 episodes—from NIH policies and microplastics to science-based board games. The hosts break down their personal favorites of the year, including the Science Education & Outreach episode, Organ on a Chip, and Corneal Bioengineering. We also take a moment to discuss what we are grateful for this year, our experience at ASIP, and the importance of Hispanic Heritage Month. 🎉 Special Guest Segment: Stay tuned for an inspiring interview with Robin Isabella Mota! At just 10 years old, this El Paso, TX native is the Founder and CEO of ThermoGuard. She joins us to discuss her district science fair-winning invention—a thermosensitive wristband that detects fevers in kids—and shares her thoughts on her future in STEM. #BehindOurScience #STEM #SciencePodcast #YearInReview #YoungInventor #ThermoGuard #ScienceEducation
Episode 31-ASIP Pathobiology Mechanisms of Disease 2025 Recap
2025/11/11
Welcome to Behind Our Science! In Episode 31, our cohosts Daisy Shu and Vik Meadows chat and reflect on attending Pathobiology 2025 the Annual ASIP Meeting in Portland, OR in May 2025.  From planning trainee get-togethers outside of the scientific program to preparing for scientific travel and presenting your work - Behind Our Science has you covered. Daisy and Vik share their tips and best practices for ensuring a smooth conference attendance and how to maintain your spark in the lab after returning from conference travel. Have any topics you want us to cover? Let us know in the comments below! Thank you for listening and stay curious!
Episode 30-Interview with Corneal Bioengineer, Dr. Jingjing You
2025/10/11
In this episode, co-host Dr. Daisy Shu chats with Dr. Jingjing You about 3D bioprinting, biomaterials, and the future of corneal bioengineering. They also talk about their collaboration on a special issue of The American Journal of Pathology focused on innovations in ocular disease. 👁️ From custom collagen bioinks to AI-driven tissue engineering, this is a peek into the future of vision science.
Episode 28- NIH Policy Changes and Its Potential Impact on Research
2025/07/31
Thank you for listening to our 28th episode, focusing on the recent federal budget cuts and what that means for biomedical research. In this episode, the Behind Our Science team has two very important interviews with Dr. William Coleman and Ms. Dani Burns on how cuts to the NIH and indirect funds affect biomedical research as a whole and in academic settings.  Dr. Coleman is the Executive Officer of the American Society for Investigative Pathology, a proud sponsor of our podcast, and a member of the Federation of American Societies for Experimental Biology. Dr. Coleman is a former academic researcher with over 140 peer-reviewed publications and 11 books published on his research covering liver stem cells and liver and breast cancer. During our interview, Dr. Coleman describes what the current budget cuts at the NIH mean to the state of biomedical research in academia and professional societies and how the attack on DEI policies impacts the next generation of scientists. Ms. Dani Burns is a clinical department administrator with over 10 years of experience in research administration and an MBA with a focus on healthcare administration. Ms. Burns is responsible for oversight of all research expenditures and indirect allocations in her current role. In this episode, Ms. Burns covers the importance of indirect funds in supporting universities and research success and debunks common misconceptions on what indirect funds really are.  We end our episode with a short highlight from cohost Dr Vik Meadows and her experience at the 2025 Capitol Hill Day in Washington, DC. As a representative for the Histochemical Society at this advocacy event organized by FASEB, Vik met with the offices of Pennsylvania senators and congressmen to advocate for increase of federal funds and stand up for science! Want to find out more about how federal funds impact your state and district? Visit https://www.faseb.org/science-policy-and-advocacy/federal-funding-data to find out more. Don’t forget to also check out the SCIMap: View Impact of Federal Health Research cuts  https://scienceimpacts.org/ shared by @joshuasweitz.bsky.social . Interested in advocating for the increase of federal research funds for biomedical research? Check out the resources organized by FASEB at https://www.faseb.org/science-policy-and-advocacy/become-an-advocate.  We want to hear from you! Have you been impacted by the federal research fund cuts? Has your institution reacted to the indirect funds cut? Let us know in the comments or on social media. We stand with you and stand up for science! Stay curious! #SciencePolicy #FASEB #ASIP #HSC #DEI #CapitolHillDay #FASEBOnTheHill
Episode 29- Organ-on-a-Chip: an afternoon with Dr. Lans Taylor
2025/07/31
Welcome to Behind Our Science! In Episode 29, we sit down with Dr. D. Lansing 'Lans' Taylor from the University of Pittsburgh. Dr. Taylor is a renowned scientist, entrepreneur, and innovator whose pioneering work bridges academic discovery and biotech entrepreneurship. We hope you enjoy as Dr. Taylor shares his journey through decades of groundbreaking research and leadership across various sectors of biomedical science. With the recent NIH focus on in vitro and organoid systems, we explore Dr. Taylor's work on biomimetic microphysiology systems (MPS), sophisticated “organs-on-chips” that function as personalized human organs to study drug development and effectiveness. By using MPS, Dr. Taylor aims to revolutionize drug discovery, precision medicine, and disease modeling by providing more accurate, human-relevant data compared to traditional cell culture or animal models. Dr. Taylor also discusses his transitions between academia and industry, including founding multiple biotech companies and returning to academia to build interdisciplinary teams that focus on drug development using MPS and tackling complex diseases like cancer. He offers insights into the benefits of entrepreneurial thinking in academia, the hurdles of translating innovation, and the future of predictive, human-relevant preclinical models. Whether you're interested in cutting-edge bioengineering, translational science, or navigating a career that spans the laboratory and the boardroom, this conversation delivers insight and practical wisdom from a leader who has experienced it all. Stay curious!
Episode-27 Science Education and Outreach
2025/03/01
Thank you for joining us on this journey to our 27th episode!    In this episode, the Behind Our Science team interviews Dr. Nakisha Rutledge. Dr. Rutledge is an Entrepreneurial Scientist at Temprian Oncology and founder of both Sci in the City (formerly Sci in the Chi) and STEMulating Potential, two non-profit organizations promoting science education and outreach in the Chicago area. She is the recipient of the 2024 Young Scientist Leadership Award from the American Society for Investigative Pathology and is a fearless innovator in the field of biomedical therapeutics development. We are excited to champion the importance of science education and science outreach in allowing our community to make informed decisions about their health and environments. Our conversation with Dr. Rutledge also highlights the detriment scientific innovation faces with the loss of DEI initiatives from the NIH, academic institutions, and companies. Humanity needs diversity to thrive. We want to hear from you! Do you have a favorite science outreach memory? Have you led or been impacted by science education? How has the removal of DEI initiatives impacted you or your peers? Let us know in the comments below or tag us on our social media! Thank you for tuning in. Stay curious!  #ScienceOutreach #ScienceEducation #Diversity #DEI #SciintheChi #STEMulatingPotential
Episode 26-2024 Rewind and Recap
2025/01/04
Woo! Happy New Year! In our 26th episode, the Behind Our Science team interviews reflects on our past 7 episodes produced in 2024! We still can't believe we have made so many episodes and gotten the opportunities to travel and meet some amazing scientists along the way. One of the highlights of the Behind Our Science team was our recent travel to Australia and New Zealand!!! The team submitted and presented our individual research abstracts at the 2024 Biomolecular Horizons Congress that took place in Melbourne, NSW, Australia. Dr. Roberto Mota-Alvidrez and Dr. Vik Meadows also got the opportunity to travel to Sydney to present at Dr. Daisy Shu's home institution, University of New South Wales. Dr. Mota-Alvidrez and Dr. Meadows also explored New Zealand - a once in a lifetime opportunity for our team! We hope you enjoy our segment highlighting the 12 apostles park, Jervis Bay, lemon lime and bitters tasting, Koala sightings, conference speed interviews, and the beauty of Australia. We also celebrate some career and personal achievements this year including cross-country moves, grants, engagements, publications, and lots of conferences! We believe it is so important to celebrate all the wins, big or small, to combat imposter syndrome and survive as researchers. We want to hear your wins -  let us know in the comments below or tag us on our social media! As always, thank you for tuning in. Stay curious!  #BiomolecularHorizons2024 #IUBMB #ASIP #HCS #Australia #NewZealand #ScienceCommunication #Research #NewYearReflection
Episode 25-Nano- & Micro-Plastics in Health: A Macro Problem?
2024/12/09
Thank you for joining us for our 25th episode!    In this episode, the Behind Our Science team interviews three leading scientists in the developing field of nano- and micro-plastics. Understanding the role of nano- and micro-plastics in biological systems has large implications on our individual and global health with potential to impact our government policy. Our international speaker line up is taking on the field of nano- and micro-plastics by investigating its impact on various biological systems including reproductive (placenta, testis), cardiovascular, and ocular. We are excited to showcase the value of collaboration and data driven discovery in the field of micro-plastics!    Our first speaker is Dr. Phoebe Stapleton, Associate Professor of Pharmacology and Toxicology at the Ernest E Mario School of Pharmacy at Rutgers University. We invite you to read her recent work on nano-plastics in the peer reviewed articles below:  1.    Identification of micro- and nanoplastic particles in postnatal sprague-dawley rat offspring after maternal inhalation exposure throughout gestation: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39117197 2.    Single inhalation exposure to polyamide micro and nanoplastic particles impairs vascular dilation without generating pulmonary inflammation in virgin female Sprague Dawley rats: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37088832   Our second speaker is Dr. Chris Lim, Associate Consultant in the Department of Ophthalmology at National University Hospital. We invite you to read his recent articles on micro-plastics in eye disease and his studies on the impact of COVID-19 vaccines on eye health below:  1.    Impact of Microplastics on the Ocular Surface: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36835339 2.    Retinal vein occlusion following BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) COVID-19 vaccination: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37675679   Our third speaker is Dr. Matthew Campen, Regents’ Professor in the Department of Pharmaceutical Sciences at the University of New Mexico. We invite you to read his recent work on micro-plastics in the peer reviewed articles below:  1.    Microplastic presence in dog and human testis and its potential association with sperm count and weights of testis and epididymis: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38745431 2.    Quantitation and identification of microplastics accumulation in human placental specimens using pyrolysis gas chromatography mass spectrometry: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/38366932   As our listeners, we want to hear from you! Have you heard of micro-plastics? What directions should the research go? Let us know in the comments below or tag us on our social media! Thank you for tuning in. Stay curious!    #Microplastics #nanoplastics #polymerresearch #ramanspectometry #massspectrometry #rutgers #unm #nuh
Episode 24-Science Board Games
2024/09/09
At Behind Our Science, we love board games! Especially science-based board games. In this episode we discuss some our favorite science board games including Antidote, Pandemic, Remediate, and Cytosis.  We interview Dr. Max Bai, Director of the Political Belief Lab, about his creation of the Publish or Perish: The Board Game and how his academic journey prepared him to develop a humorous interpretation of a heavy and difficult topic in academic research.  This game explores the academic publish or perish culture as a fun party game! Resources mentioned in this episode:  - Antidote: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/150783/antidote  - Pandemic: https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/30549/pandemic  -Remediate: https://www.coesb.com.au/remediate/ - Cytosis: https://www.geniusgames.org/products/cytosis-a-cell-biology-game  -Publish or Perish: https://get.thepublishorperishgame.com/  -Dr. Bai's website: http://www.maxhuibai.com/  Thank you for tuning in! Have you played any of these games? Let us know in the comments and on social media. Don't forget to subscribe to Publish or Perish to know when it will launch! Stay Curious!  #behindourscience #sciencegames #scientist #antidotegame #pandemicgame #remediategame #cytosisgame #PublishorPerishgame

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