Welcome to the PDA Society’s podcast, where we explore all things PDA to help make life easier for PDAers, their families, and everyone affected by demand avoidance. Research suggests PDA (Pathological Demand Avoidance) is a profile of autism, meaning individuals share similar strengths and challenges. A key feature of PDA is extreme demand avoidance – finding it hard or impossible to complete everyday tasks, even those they want to do. PDAers often use social strategies to manage demands, form deep connections with safe people, and experience strong emotions. Join us as we dive into PDA together!
If any of the issues in today’s podcast affected you or you’d like to learn more, please visit our website for help and information on: www.pdasociety.org.uk
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Helpful therapies for PDA adults
2026/08/06
In this episode, Beth Silcox and Rebecca Homewood (who are both specialists in neurodivergent affirming practice) talk about what genuinely helpful therapy looks like for PDA adults, why traditional approaches don't always work, and the practical things that make a real difference in the therapy room.
For information and guidance about your circumstances, you can get in touch with our support service through our website.
If you want to hear more from Beth and Rebecca we continue our conversation with them in a webinar available over on our training hub.
This is the last episode before we take a short break, keep an eye out for more episodes later in the year!
Accessibility for PDA pupils with The Access Hub
2026/07/30
In this episode we're chatting to Kate Whittlesey and Pat McMahon from the Access Hub about what it really means for a PDA or neurodivergent child to access their education. They cover why a child being physically present in school doesn't always tell the whole story, and what schools can do to make learning genuinely accessible for every child, as well as what The Access Hub is and how it can help students, parents and schools.
For information and guidance about your circumstances, you can get in touch with our support service through our website.
Guest links:
https://theaccesshub.co.uk/
Parents of PDAers: Mental health & wellbeing
2026/07/23
In this episode we're chatting to Emma McDonnell, parent of two autistic children including one with a PDA profile, about the realities of parental mental health and wellbeing. Emma shares how small, practical shifts can make a genuine difference when you're running on empty.
For information and guidance about your circumstances, you can get in touch with our support service through our website.
Guest links:
www.emma-mcdonnell.com
Facebook and Instagram - @theemmamcdonnell
SEND law and your child's education
2026/07/16
In this episode we're chatting to Laxmi Patel, specialist SEND lawyer and partner at Boyes Turner, about your rights when it comes to SEND law. She takes us from the very start of the journey through to EHCPs, appeals, and tribunal.
For information and guidance about your circumstances, you can get in touch with our support service through our website.
Guest links:
https://www.boyesturner.com/our-people/laxmi-patel
SEND Code of Practice
OT assessments and PDA children
2026/07/09
In this episode we're chatting to Faith Newton, highly specialist children's occupational therapist and parent of two PDA children, about how to approach OT assessments with PDA children - whether you're a parent preparing for an appointment, or an OT looking to adapt your practice.
You can hear us chat more to Faith about Occupational Therapy and PDA on our Training Hub.
For information and guidance about your circumstances, you can get in touch with our support service through our website.
Daily life in a PDA family
2026/07/02
In this episode we’re chatting to Jennifer Chilton, neurodiverse informed coach and parent of a PDAer, about the ups and downs of daily life in a PDA family - and how when we adapt our approach and expectations, life can become infinitely more manageable.
For information and guidance about your circumstances, you can get in touch with our support service through our website.
Guest links:
Website: www.neurodistinct-coaching.co.uk
Instagram: @Jen_neurodistinct
Finding support networks as a PDA parent
2026/06/25
In this episode we’re chatting with Lindsay and Stacie, from the PDA Devon support group, both of whom are parents of a PDAer. It can be really isolating as a PDA parent, especially when the people around you don’t understand what’s going on or how to offer support. In this episode we explore why it’s so vital to build a likeminded community and support network, and how to connect when awareness about PDA is still growing.
You can our Facebook support groups here or explore our directory of support.
Declarative language made easy
2026/06/15
In this week’s episode we’re chatting to parent Steve Keightley about how declarative language can reduce demands for PDAers and the difference this has made for their family. If you’re not sure how to recognise declarative language, Steve has created the Ask Gentle app which can help you find a softer way to communicate around demands.
You can find out more, including our previous episode on Declarative Language with Linda K Murphy, through the PDA Training Hub.
PDA and the Biology of Sleep
2026/06/11
In this episode we’re chatting to Nathalie Shek, a paediatric occupational therapist who works with neurodivergent children, young people and families. Sleep hygiene advice such as creating routines can often create extra demands, so we’ll be talking about the biology of sleep what helps to make common sleeping difficulties a little easier.
You can find out more on our website or and find more episodes, including a Q&A with Nathalie when you sign up to the PDA Training Hub.
Finding therapeutic support as a PDA parent
2026/06/04
In this episode we’re chatting with Christine MacInnis (LMFT) about some of the challenges parents of PDAers face when looking for support. Being a parent of a PDAer can be an isolating experience - from the lack of support, the stress of not being believed, and the pressures to conform to potentially harmful practices. In this episode we look at some of the ways parents can access support, and how to recognise PDA-affirming therapeutic practice.
If you need help and information about PDA, contact our support service today.
Guest links: www.theneurodivergentwhisperer.com
Animal therapy for children with SEND
2026/05/28
In this episode we’re chatting to David Boxall from Elysian, who provide alternative farm-based education, about how animal therapy can support children who have been failed by a mainstream education setting.
To find out more about supporting PDA children in school, check out the information on our website or sign up to the PDA Training Hub.
Guest links: https://elysianuk.org/
The Hidden harm of School Behaviour Policies
2026/05/21
In this episode we’re chatting with Beth from Lily Oaks psychological and Counselling practice about why school behaviour policies often do more harm than good.
You can find out more about supporting PDA in school through our website or the PDA Training Hub.
Why Diagnosis Matters for PDA Adults
2026/05/14
Welcome back for Season 2 of PDA Life - The PDA Society Podcast.
We’re seeing a rise in adults discovering their autistic identities, and yet it’s increasingly difficult to access a diagnosis – which can be used to gatekeep vital support.
In this episode we’re chatting to PDA parent, Paula, about why access to a diagnosis is so important for finding your community and understanding your experiences.
If you’re struggling to find your PDA community, you can join our Facebook Groups here or contact our support service for help.
https://training.pdasociety.org.uk/
OT solutions for PDA
2026/04/30
Welcome to the final episode of season one! We'll be back in May, after a short break, with a whole bunch of new conversations around PDA. When season two rolls around we'll start to archive earlier episodes, but they'll remain available on our training hub. See you soon!In this episode, Sarah Stewart from the PDA Society is joined by Tracy Weiner, a former Occupational Therapist and parent of a PDA young person, to explore how sensory needs can impact PDA individuals and their daily lives.
Tracy brings both professional insight and lived experience to the conversation, sharing how sensory differences can shape behaviour, emotional responses and overall wellbeing. Together, Sarah and Tracy discuss how sensory needs are often misunderstood, particularly when they present as avoidance, distress or heightened reactions to everyday situations.
The episode explores how sensory sensitivities can interact with anxiety and demand sensitivity, making environments such as home, school and public spaces feel overwhelming. Tracy reflects on how recognising these needs can help reframe behaviour, shifting the focus from “what is going wrong” to “what might this person be experiencing”.
The discussion also highlights the importance of observation, flexibility and adapting environments to better support regulation. Tracy shares how small changes, such as adjusting sensory input or reducing expectations in challenging moments, can have a significant impact on reducing distress.
This episode offers a compassionate and practical perspective on sensory needs, helping parents and professionals better understand how to support PDA individuals in a way that promotes safety, autonomy and wellbeing.
Key Themes
Understanding sensory needs in PDA individuals How sensory differences can impact behaviour and emotions The link between sensory overwhelm, anxiety and demand sensitivity Reframing behaviour through a sensory lens Using flexibility and observation to reduce distressDisclaimer
The views and opinions expressed by guest speakers in this podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the PDA Society. While we aim to provide balanced and inclusive discussions, individual experiences and perspectives may vary. The PDA Society is committed to using language and terminology that reflects the preferences of PDA and autistic people, but sometimes our guests may use language and terminology which differs. Appearance on our podcast is not an endorsement of an individual, and not all of our guests will align with our position on the issues discussed.
Further sources of support and information
More podcasts available on the PDA Society Training Hub: https://training.pdasociety.org.uk/pda-podcasts/ PDA Society Training: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/support-and-training/training/ PDA Society Support Service: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/support-and-training/support/Guest links:
https://www.kentcht.nhs.uk/childrens-therapies-the-pod/neurodivergence/sensory-processing-pathway
https://www.sensoryintegrationeducation.com/pages/free-sensory-resources
https://www.rcot.co.uk/
https://www.sensory-people.co.uk/parents-guide-to-sensory-integration/
Learning to Drive
2026/04/27
In this episode, Sarah from the PDA Society is joined by Tom Crellin and Jim Sahlsberg to explore the experience of learning to drive as a PDAer.
Jim shares his lived experience of learning to drive, including the challenges he faced and the persistence required to complete the process. The conversation explores why learning to drive can feel particularly difficult for PDA individuals, with factors such as anxiety, demand sensitivity, unpredictability and pressure playing a significant role.
Tom and Jim reflect on how the structure of driving lessons, the expectations placed on learners and the high-stakes nature of tests can all contribute to overwhelm. The discussion highlights how traditional teaching approaches may not always meet the needs of PDA learners, and why flexibility, understanding and reduced pressure can make a meaningful difference.
Part 1 focuses on building understanding of the barriers PDAers may face when learning to drive, and the importance of adapting approaches to support confidence, autonomy and regulation.
Key Themes
Why learning to drive can be challenging for PDAers The role of anxiety, pressure and unpredictability Demand sensitivity within structured learning environments The emotional impact of repeated attempts and setbacks The importance of flexible, understanding instruction Supporting confidence and autonomy during the processDeep Diver Subscriber Episode
For those who would like to go further, Part 2, an exclusive “Deep Diver” subscriber episode, is available through our Training Hub. You can access it here: https://training.pdasociety.org.uk/pda-podcasts/
Disclaimer
The views and opinions expressed by guest speakers in this podcast are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of the PDA Society. While we aim to provide balanced and inclusive discussions, individual experiences and perspectives may vary. The PDA Society is committed to using language and terminology that reflects the preferences of PDA and autistic people, but sometimes our guests may use language and terminology which differs. Appearance on our podcast is not an endorsement of an individual, and not all of our guests will align with our position on the issues discussed.
Further sources of support and information
PDA Society Training Hub: https://training.pdasociety.org.uk/pda-podcasts/ PDA Society Training: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/support-and-training/training/ PDA Society Support Service: https://www.pdasociety.org.uk/support-and-training/support/