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Our ‘How Did You Get That Job?’ mini-series continues as host Shaun Cheatham, Chief Relationship Officer at Hays, welcomes back two former guests to discuss the cyber security landscape.  Jessica Nemmers first appeared on the show in 2021. A former ballerina, she is now CISO at Flare Data Systems. Alongside her is Hays’ own CISO, Neil Khatod, who spoke on the show in 2023 about his experiences as the head of the US Army Cyber Command.  Together, they discuss:   What organisations need to know about cybersecurity The ways in which AI is making an impact and causing challenges How professionals can get involved in the fight against cybercrime Listen to the full episode to learn about the above and discover how you or your organisation can leverage insights, tools and attitudes to stay ahead. While you're here, don't forget to check out our previous episodes with Jessica and Neil.

The new mini-series of ‘How Did You Get That Job?’ sees host Shaun Cheatham, Chief Relationship Officer at Hays, explores the trends and technologies impacting the future of work.  This time, Shaun meets Antony and Claire Roberts, founders of Full Fathom Five. With a combined 40 years of experience of experience in digital and IT transformation, they join the pod to discuss the challenges for businesses regarding AI adoption.  Expect to hear more about:   AI as a “punk” democratising force The difficulties for organisations in measuring impact Why ethics should go beyond a “box tick” Listen to in-depth discussions on the above, as well as practical advice from Antony and Claire on how organisations can succeed with AI implementation on both a strategic and people-centric level.

‘How Did You Get That Job?’ is back – and we’re changing up the format a little bit! In our new mini-series, host Shaun Cheatham, Chief Relationship Officer at Hays, explores the trends and technologies impacting the future of work. In the first episode, Shaun speaks to James Milligan, Hays’ Global Head of STEM, and James Hutt, founder of transformation consultancy Paradigm Junction. Listen as they discuss how AI is already impacting the labour market for young people, what this means for senior employees, and how organisations and professionals can stay ahead of the competition. Download your copy of Hays’ Future of Work report here. Read James Milligan’s blog on the Chief AI Officer here.

Join Shaun Cheatham on ‘How Did You Get That Job?’ as he meets Duane Barnes, President at RapidScale, a managed cloud services platform. Duane’s appearing on the show to talk about starting his career in dial-up tech support and working his way to the top. Having landed his first role by replying to an email newsletter, Duane’s career includes roles at household names and working with entrepreneurs. He and Shaun chat about developing skills, making decisions and moving into leadership. For advice on taking the next step in your tech career, visit the Insights section on the Hays website: https://www.haystechnology.com/blogs

Join Shaun Cheatham on ‘How Did You Get That Job?’ as he meets Beatriz Barroso, who’s the Chief Technology Officer for investment platform Goparity in Portugal. Her career began in theatre, before she decided to pivot to software development. In a conversation that spans several topics, they discuss how Beatriz began coding, what it’s like building and leading a tech team, and how she’s able to use her creativity and theatre skills in a tech role.  For advice on moving forward in your tech career, visit the Insights section on the Hays website: https://www.haystechnology.com/blogs

Series 4 of ‘How Did You Get That Job?’ resumes with our first guest of 2025, Biju Krishnan. Biju has worked across the globe, where he’s helped organisations tackle AI and data. Currently based in Germany, he joins host Shaun Cheatham to discuss his journey to becoming a tech contractor and what his work entails today.  Together, they explore themes such as burnout, different cultures and the benefits they bring, learning about technologies like AI and more.  For more career advice and insights into AI and other trends, go to the Insights section on the Hays website: https://www.haystechnology.com/blogs

Series 4 of the ‘How Did You Get That Job?’ podcast starts with guest Abigail Rappoport. Based in the UK, Abigail has led a diverse and exciting career, working at household names such as Microsoft and Meta, as well as setting up her own businesses. She’s also recently been named on the 2024 longlist for ComputerWeekly’s Most Influential Women in UK Tech!  In this interview with Hays’ Shaun Cheatham, Abigail talks about her route into tech and weighs up the benefits of working at global organisations and smaller start-ups. Now forging her own path, she also talks about what it takes to make it outside of permanent employment and the steps she takes to ensure continued success.   If you want more guidance on a career in tech or as a contractor, head over to the Insights section on the Hays website: https://www.haystechnology.com/blogs

In this special episode of ‘How Did You Get That Job?’, host Shaun Cheatham is joined by two former Chief Warrant Officers in the US Army. Having retired from service, each have taken different paths but have continued to enjoy highly successful careers in cyber security. Fernando “Nando” Tomlinson has since joined Mandiant (part of Google Cloud), where he works as a Technical Manager in Digital Forensics and Incident Response. Roy “Big Ruck” Rucker Sr., meanwhile, runs his own cyber security consultancy, TRECIG. Listen to their conversation to learn more about:  Challenges after leaving the military and ways to overcome theseAdvice on working in cyber security and engaging with stakeholdersThe importance of diversity of thought and experience in techIf you’re looking for a career in tech, check out the content on our blog. To find out more about cyber security careers and skills in 2024, download Hays’ annual report here.

Joining us on the How Did You Get That Job?  podcast this time is Emily Cornock. Based in Australia, Emily works at financial services company Suncorp, where she’s the Executive Manager for Core Data Platforms.  In this insightful conversation with host Shaun Cheatham, Emily shares how sticking to her career plan didn’t always work out, and what she did to pivot and keep her journey going. A proponent of authenticity with little time for stereotypes in tech, Emily is passionate about not only her work, but also the importance of being a role model as a leader.  Listen to Emily and Shaun’s discussion to discover:  Guidance on starting a career in engineering Why bringing your authentic self to the workplace can help you – and your career Thoughts on encouraging and nurturing the next generation of coders If you’re interested in more information on a career in tech, check out the content on our blog. Whether you’re writing a CV, preparing for an interview or developing your skills, our Hays experts have you covered.

In this special episode of 'How Did You Get That Job?', host Shaun Cheatham looks at data from recruitment specialists Hays that reveals which tech roles are most in demand among employers in 2024. During the show, he talks to Hays experts to uncover why these organisations need people in these roles, and which skills you need to get the job and succeed. Guests include Joshua Tang, Jason Barr, Giulia Bonvissuto and Breanna Mahan. If you want to know more about the jobs mentions in Shaun's conversations, check out the full top 10 list here on the Hays website. Alternatively, if you want to take the next step in your tech career, head straight to our Job Search section.

Paul Smith, CIO at Amnesty International, joins host Shaun Cheatham for another episode of the How Did You Get That Job? podcast. Based in the UK, Paul took a non-traditional path into tech and credits his passion for learning with his success today.  During his conversation with Shaun, Paul discusses his early career, his transition into working in tech and how building relationships with other leaders landed him his current role. He also shares what it’s like working for an organisation like Amnesty and how it helps to motivate him every day.  Listen to this episode for Paul’s thoughts on:    Learning the skills you need for career success The importance of “finding your tribe” Why diversity matters more than ever in tech Looking for more advice in your tech career? You’ll find great resources on the Jobseeker tab in our Insights section, such as tips on finding the right role for you, writing a CV and preparing for an interview. For more on learning the right skills, make sure to listen to our episode: ‘Revealed: how to develop the skills you need for a career in tech’.

In the latest episode of How Did You Get That Job?, host Shaun Cheatham meets Kumar Parakala. Currently based in the US as President of GHD Digital, Kumar saw his career really take off when he moved to Australia, where he worked in a public sector role before spending 14 years at KPMG. Kumar came on the podcast to discuss his career and how he got to where he is today. He is a huge advocate of taking risks, and speaks candidly about the benefits of this, as well as the negative impact this has had at times. He also shares his insights into what it takes to become a leader in tech today, as well as why he has championed diversity throughout his time in the workforce. Listen to Shaun’s interview with Kumar for:   Advice on how to impress senior stakeholders Tips on how to be an effective leader in tech Reasons for embracing diversity Interested in making the next step in your tech career? Head over to the Insights section on the Hays website for advice on writing a CV, passing an interview and other ways to equip yourself with the skills you need.

How Did You Get That Job? is back and we’re starting by recognising Cyber Security Awareness Month this October. Shaun’s guest is Neil Khatod, who recently left the US Army after 30 years of service. Neil most recently served as COO of US Army Cyber Command, where he was responsible for defending a network with over 1.4m endpoints.  In a fascinating conversation, Neil tells us about his experiences of working on the army’s offensive and defensive cyber and the difficult decisions he had to make as part of the role. He shares his thoughts on leadership and the humility required to be an effective and professional head of a team. We also ask him for any advice on working in cyber security, and the steps he took to reach his esteemed position.  Listen to this episode to:  Hear about Neil’s career journey in the US Army Discover three key tips on ways to succeed in a cyber security role Find out what cyber security leaders are seeking in a new recruit Learn the rules by which he lives as a leader Interested in working in cyber security? Visit the Insights section on the Hays website for blogs on choosing the right tech role for you, writing a resumé and preparing for a technical interview.

The pace of change in the tech industry is very high, meaning you always need to be open to enhancing your skills. At Hays, we call this skills development, but in the wider industry you may hear it called “upskilling”.   In this special episode, Shaun Cheatham is joined by Harry Gooding - Solutions Director at Hays and presenter of the Tech Founders series from Hays. Together, they discuss what is happening in the industry at the moment, how best to determine which skills you need to learn for success and, more importantly, how to find the correct course for you! Harry also shares how to show off your newly found skills on your resume, while we look back on past episodes from this series to hear guests mention how they’ve had to develop their skills.  If you are interested in learning more about Hays’ skills development advice, visit www.expertsintechnology.hays.com.

In this episode we meet Evangelina Avendano, Location Leader at EY GDS. We speak to her about her career and discover more about her path from the technology industry to finance, only to come back to tech in her present role. She shares her reasons for makingthe transition, the differences between industries and what advice she has for others who are looking to make the change.  We also speak to her about being a woman in the industry and how she was told to be bold and raise her hand, advice she feels has helped her to get to where she is today. We also speak to her about the use of meditation and mindfulness in the workplace and the advantages of this.  By listening to this episode, you will: Learn the differences between the technology and finance industry and get ideas on how to migrate sectors seamlessly.Discover more about the Mexican tech market and the unique attributes it has over other countries in the world.The use of applying meditation in the corporate setting and how it can help you see more clearly when making decisions. If you are interested in learning more about the tech industry, visit the Insights section atwww.expertsintechnology.hays.com where you will find information on choosing the right tech role for you, resume advice and also preparing for an interview in the tech space.