Welcome to Defining Hospitality, the podcast focused on highlighting the most influential figures in the hospitality industry. In each episode we provide 1 on 1, in depth interviews with experts in the industry to learn what hospitality means to them. We feature expert advice on working in the industry, behind the scenes looks at some of your favorite brands, and in depth explorations of unique hospitality projects.
Defining Hospitality is hosted by Founder and CEO of Agency 967, Dan Ryan. With over 30 years of experience in hospitality, Dan brings his expertise and passion to each episode as he delves into the latest trends and challenges facing the industry.
Episodes are released every week on Wednesday mornings.
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The Design Starter Kit - Ashley Squires - Defining Hospitality
2026/10/07
What if the biggest advantage in hospitality design isn't having more options, but fewer, better ones?
On this episode of Defining Hospitality, Ashley Squires walks through how The Stylist Group is rethinking the front end of design sourcing. She breaks down how her team narrows a project down to a tailored "starter kit" pulled from dozens of premier manufacturers, why a fast turnaround can save a firm real time and money, and how she's working to bring a sense of joy back into a process that too often feels like a grind.
Ashley Squires is an interior designer, hospitality design expert, and creative strategist with more than 25 years of experience across hospitality, multifamily, and private aviation spaces. She's led design work for major hotel brands, multifamily developments, and cruise lines, giving her firsthand insight into where the sourcing process breaks down for design teams. Alongside her partner Andrea, she co-founded The Stylist Group to turn that experience into a free resource other designers could lean on.
Chapters:00:00 Stylist Group Promise
00:24 Show Mission Intro
00:48 Sponsor Message
00:57 Meet Ashley Squires
01:23 Time Is Money Setup
02:57 Defining Hospitality
03:25 What Stylus Group Does
04:50 Library Space Problem
06:24 Curating From 27 Makers
09:26 Designer Testimonials
11:26 Fast Turnarounds
15:33 How Palettes Get Picked
18:25 Christmas Day Unboxing
19:54 Sustainability Break
20:19 Measurable Time Savings
22:06 How To Get Started
25:12 Recent Project Wins
33:27 Wrap Up And Contact
Quote of the Show: "No matter what the needs are, whether you're a big firm or you're just starting out, consider us your design resource library." - Ashley Squires
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Links:
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Hospitality Is a Mindset - Matthew Boone - Defining Hospitality
2026/09/30
Matthew Boone joins Dan Ryan to break down what it actually takes to turn a hospitality project from blueprint to guest ready. They dig into the tension between design vision and hard budget numbers, why cost estimating works so differently around the world, and the on the job lessons that shaped how he leads projects today.
Matthew Boone is head of hospitality at Rider Levett Bucknall (RLB), bringing 20+ years of architecture, construction and project management experience to some of the industry's most complex hotel developments. Trained as an architect, his work includes San Francisco's Huntington Hotel, a project that landed in Architectural Digest. He now leads RLB's hospitality growth across North America, pairing design instinct with financial discipline.
Chapters:00:00 Architectural Digest Moment
00:56 Meet Matthew Boone
02:31 Architecture Roots
04:17 Defining Hospitality
07:12 Front vs Back of House
07:57 ROI and Budget Tradeoffs
10:07 QS vs US Project Model
16:13 Transparency and True Costs
23:50 CapEx and Aging Systems
31:07 Shower Controls Code
32:10 Sponsor Sustainability Update
32:35 RLB Roots In Hawaii
35:10 Hilton Hawaiian Village Lessons
37:59 Clift Hotel Crunch Renovation
41:59 Erin And RLB Culture
43:38 Mainland Growth Markets
47:51 LA Olympics Hotel Conundrum
54:19 Wrap Up And How To Connect
Quote of the Show:
"Hospitality is thinking about what people need, what people want, before they even know they need it." - Matthew Boone
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Hospitality the Sacred Duty - Colleen Rafferty - Defining Hospitality
2026/09/16
Hospitality has ancient roots, and this week's guest traces her own path in the industry back to something surprising: a master's degree in philosophy. What started as bartending to pay for grad school became a full blown philosophy of service, one built on presence, reciprocity, and treating every guest interaction as its own small act of care. From building a team that turned an old motel into a two Michelin Key destination to launching a groundbreaking childcare pilot for hospitality workers, this conversation covers what it really takes to scale a business without losing the soul that made it special in the first place.
Colleen Rafferty is the President of Tourists, an award winning hotel in North Adams, Massachusetts that has earned two Michelin Keys and national recognition from outlets like Vanity Fair. She rose through the ranks from guest experience manager to the top leadership seat, helping build a culture so strong that her own team members have collectively logged 40 years of tenure at a hotel that has only been open eight. Beyond the hotel, Colleen is leading a new pilot childcare program funded by the state of Massachusetts in partnership with the Governor's Office, built specifically for hospitality workers whose schedules don't run Monday through Friday, 9 to 5.
Chapters:00:00 Housekeeping Meltdown
00:36 Podcast Mission Intro
01:09 Meet Colleen Rafferty
01:50 Berkshires Festival Vibes
03:32 Defining Hospitality Xenia
06:35 Philosophy to Hospitality
13:57 Tourists Growth Michelin Keys
19:28 Scaling Culture and Structure
26:58 Childcare Pilot for Workers
33:02 Funding and Coalition
33:47 Red Tape Worries
35:23 Pilot Program Unknowns
36:10 Universal Pre-K Lessons
37:14 Michelin Inspector Details
38:10 Sing for Your Slumber
41:01 Tourists Expansion Plans
44:11 Scaling Without Losing Magic
48:28 Mentors and Gratitude
Quote of the Show: "This isn't really about you. This is about this moment and what the space can provide and what the guest is looking for." - Colleen Rafferty
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Slow Down to Connect - David Rich - Defining Hospitality
2026/09/09
What if the best conversations aren't about being interesting, but about being present? In this episode, Dan sits down with his close friend and mentor to explore why so many of us struggle to truly connect, even with people we've known for years. The conversation covers vulnerability, the difference between listening to respond and listening to understand, and why removing performance from a room changes everything.
David Rich is the founder of Palabra, a story driven event format he has hosted hundreds of times across nearly every continent, from intimate dinners to gatherings of over 100 people. What started as a personal search for deeper friendships after moving back from Spain has grown into a platform used by corporations, families, and entrepreneurs to build genuine relationships. His approach to storytelling and presence has made him one of the most sought after voices on modern connection.
Chapters:
00:00 Stories Over Opinions
00:53 Meet David Rich
02:00 What Hospitality Means
03:42 Palabra Born in Spain
07:27 Designing the Container
09:53 Conversation First Format
13:03 Vulnerability and Story Prep
15:58 Listening With Heart
23:32 Opinion Free Safe Space
31:16 Sales Through Trust
32:34 Sponsor Sustainability Note
32:59 Forum Style Story Learning
34:34 Introverts Love Structure
35:57 Long Tail Impact Stories
38:13 Scaling Palabra Formats
39:58 Everest Circle Experiment
43:36 Analog Connection In AI Age
48:42 Guardrails And Closing Reflections
Quote of the Show:
"A good event isn't that someone cried, so it was a good event. It's that people become a little bit more of themselves." - David RIch
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Slow Partnerships, Fast Loyalty - Diarmaid O'Sullivan - Defining Hospitality
2026/09/02
What does luxury actually mean once you strip away the thread counts and marble bathrooms? Dan sits down with Diarmaid O'Sullivan, Director of Marketing at the Hamilton Princess & Beach Club, a Fairmont Hotel in Bermuda, for a conversation about connection, patience, and the moments that turn a guest into a regular. Diarmaid brings more than 30 years of international experience in hospitality marketing, tourism strategy, and luxury brand building, and has spent over a decade shaping some of the industry's most talked about lifestyle partnerships, including collaborations with Steamline Luggage and a custom fragrance created with Bermuda's oldest perfumery. The two dig into what luxury means as a moving target, how far patience can take a brand partnership, and why the first five minutes of a stay might matter more than the room itself.
Chapters:
00:00 Show Mission Intro
00:35 Meet Diarmaid
02:01 Hospitality Means People
05:25 Bermuda Move Story
07:30 Partnership Playbook
11:09 Fairmont Brand Legacy
15:32 Redefining Luxury
20:10 Curated Art Experiences
23:57 Tech Versus Human Touch
32:53 Mentoring With Honesty
34:12 Helping Staff Move On
35:11 I Want Your Job
36:13 Six Months To Prove It
38:01 Boss As Your Guide
40:38 Networking On A Small Island
43:56 Bermuda Awareness Challenge
47:52 New Opportunities And Partnerships
50:21 Measuring Wins And Wrapping Up
Quote of the Show:
"You can teach someone the skills to operate a system, how to make a bed, how to make a dish. But you cannot teach someone to have empathy, to connect with people, or just be happy." - Diarmaid OSullivan
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@defininghospitality?sub_confirmation=1 Substack: https://www.defininghospitality.live/ Luggage Collab: https://steamlineluggage.com/collections/the-hamilton-princess-hotelGuest’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/diarmaidosullivan/ Guests Website: https://www.thehamiltonprincess.com/ Dan Ryan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedailydanryan/🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/
Ways to Tune In:
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Culture By Design - Adam Lara - Defining Hospitality
2026/08/26
In this episode of Defining Hospitality, Dan sits down with Adam Lara, principal at KTGY Interior Design and Branded Environments, to talk about career, culture, and what it really takes to build a studio that works. From formative early experiences to his latest chapter leading a growing team in Chicago, Adam offers a grounded look at what shapes great design work over the long haul.
Adam Lara has spent nearly three decades moving across architecture, interiors, and brand side operations, giving him a rare, well rounded view of the hospitality design world. His career has included time at Hyatt, a formative stretch under acclaimed designer Jordan Mosher, and now a leadership role at KTGY. That range makes him one of the more thoughtful voices working in hospitality design today.
Chapters:
00:00 Why Hospitality Matters
00:35 Meet Adam Lara
01:55 Defining Hospitality
02:53 Career Pivot After 9/11
04:22 Inside-Out Design Thinking
05:29 Why Architects Avoid Interiors
07:26 Hyatt HQ Memories
08:31 Brand Side Lessons at Hyatt
10:27 Ops and Owner Mindset
13:40 Jordan Mozer Maker Culture
16:27 Micro to Macro Design
18:40 Joining Simeone Deary
20:25 Merging Into KTGY
22:44 Learning From Gina and Lisa
24:48 New Office and Integration
28:49 Venetian Bars Storytelling
34:59 Leadership and Culture
45:06 In-Person Collaboration Finale
Quote of the Show:
"It's not just design, it's basically problem solving." - Adam Lara
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Small Hotels, Big Margins - Ryan Diggins - Defining Hospitality
2026/08/19
In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Ryan Diggins, founder and operator of The Ramble Hotel and co-founder of Gravitas Development, to unpack how his company, Midnight Auteur, builds boutique hotels that lead with food and beverage instead of treating it as an afterthought. Ryan walks through the thinking behind properties like The Ramble in Denver and Municipal Grand in Savannah, why smaller hotels can outperform bigger ones when you optimize for revenue per square foot instead of RevPAR alone, and how staying involved in the smallest design details, right down to how brass patinas on a toilet handle, keeps a project from losing its soul as it scales. The conversation also dives into how Ryan finds overlooked real estate opportunities, how he builds teams around a fully formed vision instead of the other way around, and what the future of hotel discovery looks like as AI reshapes how travelers find where to stay.
Ryan Diggins is a real estate development veteran with over 15 years of experience building in Denver and beyond, and he's spent that time proving that boutique hotels can compete with, and outperform, some of the biggest names in the business. As founder and operator of The Ramble Hotel and co-founder of Gravitas Development, he leads hotel concepting, development, and operations through his company Midnight Auteur, marrying serious development chops with a hospitality first sensibility. His latest project, Municipal Grand in Savannah, was recently named one of the top 19 places to travel in 2026 by Architectural Digest, cementing his reputation as one of the industry's sharpest voices on design-driven, food and beverage anchored hospitality.
Chapters:00:00 Real Estate vs Purpose
00:22 Show Mission Intro
00:55 Guest Spotlight Ryan
02:26 Defining Hospitality
04:00 Placemaking Through Hotels
06:43 Artfulness Over Formula
10:42 Why Secret Sauce Gets Lost
16:25 F&B Led Hotel Economics
26:04 Staying Curious While Scaling
31:34 Process Without Strangling
33:23 Design For The Picky Guest
35:22 Thoughtfulness As True North
37:23 Values Shape The Team
40:58 Winning Over Investors
44:29 Choosing Design Partners
48:22 Future Markets And Pipeline
50:53 Marketing In The AI Era
55:04 Death And Co Origin Story
Quote of the Show:
"If we can't answer what is this here for or why are we doing this, well now you're just a Pinterest board." - Ryan Diggins
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Making Room for Others - Carl Long - Defining Hospitality
2026/08/05
In this episode, Dan sits down with longtime industry counterpart Carl Long for a conversation twenty years in the making. They dig into how relationships compound like interest, why hospitality has resisted disruption from AI, and the vocational program Carl helped build at Richardson High School that's giving students a debt free path into the industry. It is a candid, reflective talk about risk, trust, and what actually keeps people in this business for the long haul.
About the Guest:
Carl Long is CEO of PMI and PMI Tribal Services, with more than two decades of experience in hospitality purchasing and project management spanning India, Latin America, and major hotel, casino, and senior living projects across the US. He sits on the board of the Indian Gaming Association, serves on the AHLA Design and Construction Committee, and is the past president of ISHP. He is also breaking ground on his own hotel development this year, adding developer to an already impressive resume.
Chapters:
00:00 Spy Joke and Mission
00:46 Meet Carl Long
02:07 Project Years and Perspective
04:32 Defining Hospitality
05:57 Building Their Own Hotel
07:28 Balancing Kindness and Deadlines
10:50 Relationships Over Transactions
17:38 Trust Erosion and Overdocumentation
28:58 Disruption AI and Last Mile
36:20 AI Meets Reality
38:12 People Over Process
38:49 Hospitality Career Lab
39:58 Richardson High Program
42:28 Building A Hotel Lobby
45:13 Opportunity Without Debt
47:21 Connection Beats Remote
53:59 CapEx And Renovation Cycle
01:05:19 Future Of Relational Hospitality
Quote of the Show: "Those relationships, they have to start somewhere. It comes over time, it comes over effort, and when you do that, relationships are what make great projects easy to move ahead." - Carl Long
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Hospitality From Every Angle - Compilation Episode - Defining Hospitality
2026/07/29
To celebrate over three years of Defining Hospitality, Dan Ryan pulls together some of the most powerful moments from the show's history into one episode. From the etymology of the word "hospitality" itself to the sacred duty of welcoming strangers, this compilation revisits the ideas that have shaped the conversation around design, service, and business in our industry. Guests reflect on the moments that changed them, the leaps of faith that built their careers, and the small human details, like how a rendering makes people feel, that separate good hospitality from great hospitality. It's a reminder of just how much wisdom has passed through this mic, and why the question "what does hospitality really mean" never gets old.
This episode brings back some of the sharpest minds Dan has hosted, including novelist and hospitality thinker Ian, designer and procurement leader Chelsea Hershelman, hospitality veteran John O'Sullivan, caterer to presidents Steve, architect and designer Eileen, casino and resort design expert Bruno Viterbo, real estate developer Margot Stern, and hospitality tech innovator John Duffield. Each brought a distinct perspective to the show, from the sacred history of welcoming guests to the future of biometric personalization in travel. Together, their stories map out just how wide, and how deep, the world of hospitality really runs.
Chapters:
00:00 Welcome to Defining Hospitality
00:35 Hospitality Roots and Meaning
01:32 Designing the Guest Journey
02:14 A Sacred Sense of Belonging
02:40 Conviction as Leadership Gravity
03:14 Four Seasons Culture Shift
03:57 Hope and Opportunity Abroad
05:03 White Box to Model Room
06:03 Designing for Real People
07:11 Is It Right or Wrong
07:55 Sponsor Sustainability Update
08:20 Creating Vacation Joy
09:06 Leaps of Faith and Belonging
11:07 Friends Who Expand Possibility
12:04 Don’t Disqualify Yourself
13:46 Winning Town Alignment
15:05 High Stakes Catering Moments
15:44 Future of Travel and Wisdom
Quote of the Show:
"It wasn't about, hey, we have these great finishes on the walls. It was about what does it feel like to be in that place." - Bruno Viterbo
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Get Connected with the Guests
Bruno Viterbo: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bruno-viterbo/ Chelsea Hershelman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chelsea-hershelman-a0639656/ Eileen Madigan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eileenamadiganasid/ Ian Sharpe: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ianstuartsharpe/ John Duffield: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnjduffield/ John O’Sullivan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-o-sullivan-6719551/ Margot Stern: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margot-stern-67a0a97/ Steve Fortunato:https://www.linkedin.com/in/steve-fortunato-3b990516/ Dan Ryan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedailydanryan/🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/
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Academic Roots, Hospitality Heights - Gary Brandeis - Defining Hospitality
2026/07/22
Gary Brandeis, CEO of Scholar Hotels, joins Dan Ryan to talk about a strategy most hoteliers never even consider: betting everything on college towns. Gary explains why a large public university like Penn State makes for one of the most stable demand drivers in hospitality, and how his company has grown to nearly 1,000 rooms in State College alone. The conversation dives into his real estate investor first, hospitality operator second philosophy, the wild 16 month renovation of the historic Nittany Lion Inn, and his new Regulation A offering that lets everyday fans, not just accredited investors, own a piece of the hotels they love to visit. It is a masterclass in finding your niche, going deep instead of wide, and turning community passion into capital.
About the Guest:
Gary Brandeis is the CEO of Scholar Hotels, a hotel executive and real estate investor who has spent 35 years working with major brands like Marriott, Hyatt, and IHG while building a specialized portfolio around university markets. He has also launched award winning real estate technology companies focused on innovation and tenant experience, proving he is just as comfortable disrupting the model as he is running it. What makes Gary worth listening to is his willingness to buck conventional investment wisdom, concentrating his business in college towns like State College, Pennsylvania, and turning that focus into one of the most consistent and creative hospitality plays in the industry today.
Chapters:00:00 Why Hospitality Matters
00:25 Meet Gary Brandeis
01:04 Penn State Roots and Nittany Lion
03:09 A Thousand Rooms in State College
07:22 Hospitality Meets Profitability
12:22 College Town Brands and Graduate
16:49 Graduate Growth and Real Estate Risks
20:00 Democratizing Hotel Investing Reg A
32:46 Scaling Investor Communication
35:08 Investor Updates Tech
35:57 Radical Transparency
36:42 University Demand Engine
38:44 Crowdfunding Reg A Basics
40:37 Targeting Superfans Social
44:28 Nittany Lion Inn Turnaround
46:08 Choosing The Right Designer
50:14 Hands On Ownership Grit
58:17 University Hotels Investment Thesis
Quote of the Show:"If we don't make a profit and we don't invest well, our ability to provide a good experience for our guests is significantly hindered." - Gary Brandeis
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Connecting the Room - Michelle Finn - Defining Hospitality
2026/07/15
In this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Michelle Finn, longtime industry fixture and the driving force behind Alis Design Plus, to trace the evolution of hospitality trade events from HD Expo's chaotic 1990s launch (earthquakes, riots and all) to today's design and investment ecosystem. Michelle unpacks her "dinner party" philosophy of hosting, the power of relationships over transactions, and how she scaled that intimacy from a dozen guests to thousands of attendees without losing the human touch. The conversation moves through mentorship, the rise of owner involvement in design, the new Alis Cala expansion into the Caribbean, and even a few fun detours into what a Vogue or Garden and Guns hotel might look like.
About the Guest:
Michelle Finn heads The BHN Group's hotel design and construction events, including the launch of Alis Design Plus. Previously, she led the management and development of Hospitality Design Expo, HD Boutique, HD Summit, HD Awards, Hospitality Design, Boutique Design NY, Boutique Design West, the BD Forum Series, Boutique Design and Senior Lifestyle Design Match events, the Gold Key Awards, and more. A dedicated, long standing member of NEWH, she has earned numerous awards for innovation spanning trade fair development, publishing, leadership, and service, and is firmly established as a notable presence in Chicago's hospitality landscape.
Chapters:
00:00 Defining Hospitality Intro
00:35 Meet Michelle Finn
01:47 What Hospitality Means
03:38 Hosting Lessons Early On
06:00 Launching HD Expo Origins
08:48 Riots Earthquakes and Vegas Pivot
13:42 Winning Leadership Buy In
22:41 Why ALIS Design Plus Exists
25:21 Growth Plans and Industry Shifts
33:38 Analog Event Magic
34:36 Word of Mouth Wins
35:08 Hospitality Shifts
36:19 Product Categories Boom
37:47 Launching Alice Cala
39:59 Measuring Referrals
43:56 Hosting Like a Pro
48:11 Newcomer Event Playbook
52:22 Future Plans and Farewell
Quote of the Show:
"Identify a need, see something that doesn't exist. That's pretty much what we did." - Michelle Finn
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
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Details That Matter - Adrienne Scribner - Defining Hospitality
2026/07/08
In this episode, Dan sits down with Adrienne Scribner, principal and managing director of hospitality at Baskerville, to unpack what three decades in hotel design has taught her about the unglamorous work that actually makes projects succeed. They dig into why there is no "coordination fairy" waiting to catch your mistakes, how typing specs into a purchasing system in the early '90s built the foundation for her entire career, and why mentoring the next generation means being approachable rather than intimidating.
About the Guest:
Adrienne Scribner is a Principal and Managing Director of Hospitality at Baskervill, bringing more than 20 years of experience across the Maryland, Virginia, and DC design corridor. Her client roster reads like a hospitality hall of fame, including Marriott, Gaylord, Ritz Carlton, and Moxy, and her research driven approach has made her a trusted voice for owners navigating renovations of every scale. Beyond the projects themselves, she has built a reputation as a generous mentor, the kind of leader who would rather answer a question than let someone learn the hard way.
Chapters:
00:00 Welcome back to Defining Hospitality
00:58 Meet Adrienne Scribner
01:41 Conference Mentorship Moment
02:52 Why She Stayed in Hotels
04:17 Learning Through Specs
07:16 Hybrid Work and Phone Calls
10:54 Marriott Years and Prototypes
14:11 No Coordination Fairy
17:57 Mentorship and Coachable Talent
31:18 Baskerville Office Footprint
32:30 Hiring Without Relocation
32:47 Why DC Attracts Designers
34:40 DC Cost and Lifestyle Reality
35:01 Sponsor Sustainability Note
35:26 Market Cycle and CapEx Slowdown
38:08 Compressed Schedules and Pauses
39:36 Mentorship Through Project Conflict
40:45 Model Rooms and Risk Management
46:40 Career Lessons From Marriott
49:25 Working With Brand Standards
54:09 Owners Concepts and AI Inspiration
57:14 Research Versus Inspiration Images
59:50 Cross-Pollination Across Verticals
Quote of the Show:
"If you don't know exactly who is going to do the work, it's probably you. You need to find that person." - Adrienne Scribner
Links:
Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@defininghospitality?sub_confirmation=1 Substack: https://www.defininghospitality.live/ Guest’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-scribner-265b045/Guests Website: https://www.baskervill.com/Dan Ryan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedailydanryan/
🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/
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The Art of Making Spaces Beloved - Alexa d'Argence- Defining Hospitality
2026/07/01
Dan Ryan sat down with Alexa d'Argence, senior interior designer at Ken Fulk Inc., to explore what it really means to design spaces people fall in love with. Alexa pulls back the curtain on KFI's work at the Huntington Hotel in San Francisco and the Beverly Hills Hotel. sharing how a strong concept and cinematic vision guide every decision from the big picture down to the smallest detail. The conversation gets reflective too, touching on why slowing down is sometimes the only way forward, and what it means to truly love the work you do.
About the Guest:
Alexa d'Argence is a Senior Interior Designer at Ken Fulk Inc. in San Francisco. With a background rooted in hospitality and residential design, she has worked on projects ranging from The Flamingo Hotel in Santa Rosa to the Huntington Hotel on Nob Hill, recently featured in Architectural Digest, and is currently deep in the renovation of the Beverly Hills Hotel. A graduate of Cornell and a lifelong lover of hotels, she approaches every project as an act of care, craft, and storytelling.
Chapters:
00:42 Meet Alexa d’Argence
01:45 Sketching Under Pressure
04:02 What Hospitality Means
05:03 Hotels and Childhood Memories
05:59 From Marin to Hospitality Design
07:51 Storytelling and the Movie Mind
13:23 Designing for the Guest
17:22 History Beloved and Future Dreams
28:19 Sketching Together Works
29:08 Hidden Beauty Onsite
32:05 Details Beyond The Spread
33:15 Beloved Places And Memories
34:54 Renovations And Responsibility
36:10 Sustainability Sponsor Break
36:37 Tools Sketches And Renderings
39:40 Puzzling As Design Mindset
44:19 Mentorship Scent And Farewell
Quote of the Show:
"It's a calling, a vocation for me. So there's a lot of love that goes into it. This is a job where you are working long hours, and if you don't love it, you're gonna burn out." - Alexa d'Argence
Links:
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Niching Down then Grow - Alex Kuby - Defining Hospitality
2026/06/24
This week, Dan Ryan sits down with Alex Kuby, Associate Principal at Dyelot and a lifelong student of how built environments shape human experience. From his early days at HBA in Santa Monica to helping lead a studio through a full brand transformation, Alex has spent his career asking what it really means to make people feel seen, supported, and cared for inside a space. Together, Dan and Alex explore approachable hospitality, the power of integrated services, and what niching down actually looks like when you are doing it from the inside.
About the Guest:
On this episode, Dan Ryan sits down with Alex Kuby, Associate Principal at Dyelot, a hospitality interiors studio bolstered by branding, procurement, and architectural services. Alex has been part of the firm since its days as RDC, helping shape its evolution into a focused, values driven hospitality design practice. When he is not leading visioning workshops or authoring the Dylot blog, he is probably thinking about how a grocery store can double as a neighborhood heartbeat.
Chapters:
00:42 Show Intro and Sponsor
01:04 Meet Alex Kuby
01:31 Shared Roots and Catching Up
03:19 Defining Hospitality
03:58 Approachable Hospitality
05:25 RDC to Dyelot Story
09:34 WELL and Sustainable FF&E
20:59 Capital ROI and Visioning
32:23 Sustainable Sponsor Shoutout
32:41 Design Meets Procurement
35:38 Why Branding Comes First
39:04 Blogging and Brand Transition
41:49 Niching Down the Studio
43:22 Grocery as Community Hub
46:09 Public Spaces and Connection
50:12 Career Advice and Mentorship
53:28 Memory Lane and Farewell
Quote of the Show:
"Hospitality is the humanity in the built environment, that is the way in which we express care and facilitate all of those great high touch point, high emotional engagements that the best hospitality spaces are known for." - Alex Kuby
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@defininghospitality?sub_confirmation=1 Substack: https://www.defininghospitality.live/ Guest’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/akuby/Guests Website: https://dyelot.com/Dan Ryan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedailydanryan/
🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/
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Beyond the Bulb - Thomas Paterson - Defining Hospitality
2026/06/17
Dan Ryan talks with Thomas Paterson, founder and lighting designer at Lux Populi, about one of hospitality's most overlooked design disciplines… light. Thomas explains why lighting designers need a seat at the table from day one, not after the drawings are done, and shares his take on how light shapes a space's emotional experience. The conversation covers the gap between the 2% of projects that engage a true lighting specialist and the 30-50% that probably should, what it means to design from the inside out, his unconventional path from Australia to Mexico City, the sustainability case for old-school screw-in bulbs, and why asking the right question at the right moment is the smartest move a lighting designer can make.
About the Guest:
Thomas Paterson is the founder, director, and principal lighting designer at Lux Populi, a Mexico City based lighting design studio. He brings a first principles approach to every project, asking what light can do before how it should look. His portfolio spans luxury resorts, boutique hotels, restaurants, museums, and infrastructure, including 15 years with Sandals Resorts, the Four Seasons Los Cabos, and a landmark tunnel gateway in Sydney. Originally from Australia and formerly based in London, he landed in Mexico City by chance and built one of the industry's most distinctive lighting practices.
Chapters:
00:25 Meet Lighting Designer Thomas
03:09 Hospitality Through Light
06:43 Bring Lighting In Early
10:17 Who Owns The Brief
11:46 Do Projects Hire Lighting
17:23 Lighting As Editing Tool
25:43 Fixing Spaces After Opening
29:09 Why Mexico City
31:53 Mexico City Safety Shift
32:43 Designing the Cocoon
33:17 Contrast and Tone Basics
34:14 Fixing a Brand’s Lighting
35:47 Kelvin Myths Explained
37:38 Infrared and Homogenous LEDs
42:39 Culture and Buying Bulbs
47:37 Sustainability and PoE Lighting
54:53 Future of Lighting Design
Quote of the Show:
"Lighting design is an editing tool. Emphasize, de-emphasize, reveal, conceal." - Thomas Paterson
Building a hotel, brand, or guest experience? Reach out to Dan on LinkedIn or hit reply on the Substack to share what you’re working on.
Links:
Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/@defininghospitality?sub_confirmation=1 Substack: https://www.defininghospitality.live/ Guest’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tpaterson/ Guests Website: https://luxpopuli.com/New/ Dan Ryan LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thedailydanryan/
🏨✨ Defining Hospitality is Sponsored by Berman Falk https://www.bermanfalk.com/ - Check out their impact page! 🌍🌱 https://www.bermanfalk.com/impact/
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Chef RCH 2024/07/06
Love it!
Amazing stories and as a fellow hospitality professional its so awesome to hear these stories and history of properties and careers!
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RSK777 2024/04/17
Love this podcast
Loved talking to Dan - we got to some really good stuff!
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Roshah75 2024/03/20
Amazing show! Dan is the best!
I love hospitality. Anyone interested in this category should listen!!
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D Welborn 2024/03/13
Great conversation!
Thank you for the fun chat about this industry that we love.
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TCB_N 2024/01/17
TCB_N
Dan brings the best out of all his guests. I always learn something and laugh when I listen to this podcast
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eorley 2023/10/09
Thank you DAN!
Dan, thank you so much for the interview. I really enjoyed the time we spent together covering a range of topics from starting the business…. to what ...
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Rachelh1996 2023/05/31
Insightful
Incredibly insightful podcast about the hospitality industry!
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Leah Shosh 2023/05/30
The Perfect Podcast
Dan Ryan has found his calling! The perfect amount of “insider information” from our industry’s movers and shakers. Love learning about each person’s ...
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Badsong1923 2023/05/17
Fantastic
Really wonderful!
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Hap Happy Mom 2023/03/08
The only podcast
This is the only podcast I have listened to for years. If you have a passion for good conversation and hospitality, this is the podcast for you.