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In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Charlotte de Mos talks with Eva James, urban designer and founder of Bureau James, and Elise Moeskops, member of the Amsterdam City Council. Together, they explore how gender shapes our experience of the city and how most urban spaces are still designed with the male perspective as default. From teenage girls who avoid parks, to building regulations that overlook the needs of women, the gender data gap runs deep. But by designing with inclusion in mind, we can create safer, more functional, and more welcoming environments for everyone. They discuss what gender-aware urban planning looks like, why better data is essential, and how inclusive design strengthens not only social outcomes but also real estate value. Discover how a more inclusive built environment starts with better questions and a willingness to challenge “neutral” design.

In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Charlotte de Mos talks with Cees van der Spek, Public Affairs & Global Corporate Relations Director at EDGE. Together, they explore the social value of real estate: how buildings can be more than square meters or financial returns, they can become the beating heart of a community. From symphony orchestras rehearsing in empty office spaces to restaurants and parks that bring residents and employees together, small gestures can make a big impact. But social value isn’t just about connection and pride, it also strengthens the business case. Properties with a strong social function attract loyal tenants, reduce vacancy rates, and align more closely with ESG goals. Discover how mixed-use developments are shaping the future of our cities, and why collaboration between investors, municipalities, and developers is key to unlocking this potential.

Digital Twins in real estate: from data to decisions - with Julian Rimmer (Moser Associates) & Jozien van der Wal (Schiphol Area Development Company) No longer just a futuristic concept, Digital Twins have become a practical, data-driven tool transforming the way we design, manage, and invest in real estate.   In this episode of No Stone Unturned, host Charlotte de Mos sits down with Julian Rimmer (Director of Digital Practice at Moser Associates) and Jozien van der Wal (Program Manager Digital Twins at Schiphol Area Development Company) to revisit a bold prediction from two years ago: that digital twins would revolutionize the industry. From optimising building performance and advancing sustainability to improving occupier wellbeing, discover why embracing Digital Twins could give you - as an investor, developer, or occupier - a competitive edge, and what it takes to get started.

In a time of grid congestion, energy is no longer just a utility issue - it’s a real estate challenge. In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Kees Noorman (Director at ORAM) and Sanne Castro (Advisory Manager at Joulz) explore how property owners and businesses can take charge of their own energy supply and why self-sufficient real estate may soon become a necessity. With limited access to the national grid, new business connections are being denied across the Netherlands. But by embracing smart metering, battery storage, and energy hubs, where companies generate, share, and store power together, the property sector is finding creative ways forward. Learn how untapped grid capacity, collective energy systems, and small-scale collaborations can lead to big, structural impact. And why starting with just one neighbor might be the smartest investment you will make.

In challenging times, food security is no longer just an agricultural issue—it’s also a real estate challenge. In this episode of No Stone Unturned, Charlotte de Mos talks with Christian Heerings (Property Manager at Hines and Park Manager of Fresh Park Venlo) and Wouter van ‘t Grunewold (Market Intelligence Analyst at Savills) about how the property sector is helping secure a resilient food supply chain. Fresh Park Venlo, one of Europe’s largest agri-food hubs, illustrates why food-related real estate offers stable, future-proof investment opportunities. But with high energy demands, strict zoning regulations, and aging infrastructure, food hubs require creativity and strong collaboration among landlords, tenants, local authorities, and grid operators. Discover how ecosystem thinking, smart energy solutions, and a step-by-step approach to scaling up can unlock new opportunities in this essential niche market.

Real estate is evolving at a remarkable pace. If you’re not looking ahead, you risk falling behind. Are you ready for the transitions that will define your returns, strategy and impact on society? No Stone Unturned – the Savills podcast – is back with a brand new season. From Wednesday 16 July, join leading experts as we unpack the key trends shaping the future of real estate. In five episodes, we explore: The role of real estate in securing our food supplyGrid congestion and how it affects tenants, developers and investors alikeThe power of a Digital Twin: creating smarter, more valuable assets through digital replicasHow mixed-use developments drive social value and resilient urban environmentsThe gender data gap – and why inclusive design is essential for the cities of tomorrowCheck out the teaser and follow No Stone Unturned on Spotify or YouTube .

A big change is coming when it comes to energy labels. It will have a major impact on the real estate market in the Netherlands, especially on the office market. While an energy level C label is still currently sufficient to comply with legislation, in a few years that same building would receive a much lower label. Under EU rules, energy labels are changing. 'The biggest change is that A+ to A++++ will disappear,' says ESG consultant Bart Oosterhuis of Savills in this episode of No Stone Unturned. He is joined by his colleague Iris Kampers, who warns: 'You can no longer be satisfied with label C. Look at your portfolio and filter out all the buildings with an A label. Those are safe. For everything below that, see what adjustments you will need to make.'

What does the ideal office look like? Many real estate investors and operators are looking for the answer to that question, and like to stick to the perfect office once they've found it. However, it's important to remain flexible, argues Raquel Machado (Senior Associate at M Moser) in the new episode of 'No Stone Unturned'. Don't "over-design," but involve people and keep room for development.

It is an ambitious plan by Minister De Jonge of the Dutch Housing ministry: 900,000 homes must be built in the Netherlands by 2030. Almost a third of these, 290,000, should be suitable for senior citizens. However, discussions often focus on the smaller number of homes that need to be built for the mid-rent level segment. In this new episode of the Savills podcast No Stone Unturned, Wim Wensing (Chief Investment Officer at Amvest) argues it's time to pay more attention to those senior homes.

The development of Artificial Intelligence, or AI, will turn the world upside down in the coming years. AI will also bring change to the real estate sector. This makes it possible to design the ideal building, thanks to the millions of variants that AI can create. This is according to Herman Kienhuis, co-founder of Curiosity Venture Capital, an investor in tech start-ups. In the new episode of Savills 'No Stone Unturned' he says: “You can create millions of variants when you design a new building. And then you can filter those variants with your own criteria. As a result, you get the best design, created by an algorithm.” Herman is joined by Maurice van Tilburg, managing director of TechLeap. He also sees the real estate sector changing under the influence of AI. “With AI you can make predictions. About traffic flows, about travel behaviour, about hotspots. That is interesting if you build real estate.” With the help of AI, you can improve the air in a building or its energy.

Existing buildings are becoming more attractive than new builds in the Dutch logistics & industrial sector. An existing building already has a zoning plan, power supply and nitrogen rights, says Martien van Deursen, Head of Benelux at Arrow Capital Partners in the new episode of Savills 'No Stone Unturned'. He believes that the development of new projects is increasingly complicated due to a number of challenges.

The office market is changing rapidly, and one of those changes is the rise of flexible offices in the Netherlands. In this new episode of the Savills podcast 'No Stone Unturned' Robert Sparreboom, Head of Customer Excellence at office investor NSI, argues that 'office as a service' will become the new normal. However, he believes that investors still overestimate the risk of flexible offices.

Sustainability is becoming increasingly important in the choices consumers make. In this episode of the Savills podcast 'No Stone Unturned' Luc Boschmans, Managing Director Hospitality at Tristan Capital Partners, argues that although ESG is not yet the most important criterion when selecting a hotel, it will definitely change: “Sustainability needs to be our focus in order to be prepared.”

Gone are the days when an investor could buy a shopping centre and only took care of new tenants and maintenance. In the new episode of the Savills podcast No Stone Unturned, consultant Rupert Parker Brady argues that the owners of malls need to be much more involved: "Actually, they are the conductor of a symphony orchestra." 

What are the advantages of taking things just a little bit further than you need to? In this last and extra long episode presenter Charlotte de Mos talks to transformation expert Charlotte Extercatte, who is the initiator of the platform 100 Months to change. She helps companies go ‘beyond compliance’, and to take the necessary steps on the road to a more sustainable future. This is not only for the good of the planet, but those leading the way can also make money out of it.