Truth & TranscendenceHosted by Catherine Llewellyn | Brought to you by Being Space
Welcome to Truth & Transcendence — a podcast for seekers, leaders, creatives, and changemakers who are exploring the deeper layers of human experience.
Launched in mid-2021, this show was born out of a time of global uncertainty. It began as a space to support conscious leadership in challenging times — a call to strength, wisdom, and integrity.
Since then, the podcast has evolved alongside the world around us. Now, we welcome a rich tapestry of guests: senior leaders, coaches, artists, spiritual guides, alternative practitioners, and everyday people living extraordinary lives.
Our focus is no longer just on navigating crisis — but on embracing the joy of creation, discovery, and soulful expansion.
Each week brings two episodes:🔹 Nugget Mondays – brief, insightful solo reflections.🔹 Guest Fridays – open-hearted, unscripted conversations that dive deep.
We don’t do scripts. We follow the energy of the moment. If you're walking your path with curiosity and courage — and you're ready to join us for stories, wisdom, and questions shared with honesty and presence — this may be the perfect show for you.
Let’s explore what it really means to live a life of truth and transcendence.
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All Is Divinity: Moving Beyond the 'Me' with Indra Rinzler
2026/10/23
Catherine welcomes spiritual seeker, teacher and author Indra Rinzler to explore consciousness, intuition, surrender and living beyond conditioned stories.
Indra explores “all is divinity” — moving beyond seeing everything through the lens of “me”. They discuss observing thoughts and feelings without having to believe or act on them, and allowing opposing truths to coexist.
Indra shares stories from his spiritual journey, including 20 years in a spiritual community, travelling the world and an experience in New Zealand of deep completeness. He describes learning to make decisions from intuition and explores surrender as releasing control and the need to be in charge.
They also explore his work with Vedic astrology, the Enneagram, astrocartography and the Wheel of Totality, and the story behind Indra’s Net.
The episode closes with Indra’s message to open your heart and see yourself as a vehicle through which something greater can move.
#AllIsDivinity #Spirituality #Consciousness
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Where our conversation went:
00:33 What does “all is divinity” mean?
05:13 Observing thoughts without believing them
05:50 Allowing opposing truths to coexist
09:12 Discovering metaphysical bookstores
12:50 Leaving the spiritual community and travelling
14:01 Experiencing completeness in New Zealand
15:39 Making decisions through intuition
20:41 What surrender means
24:03 How Indra came to his work with readings
26:58 Writing Indra’s Net “through” rather than “from” himself
31:15 Living in the place of not knowing
32:14 A book that invites reflection rather than easy answers
35:45 A message for people following a spiritual calling
37:00 Being a vehicle rather than the source
41:01 Closing thoughts and blessings
#Surrender #Intuition #IndrasNet #podmatch
Where to find Indra Rinzler:
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https://indrarinzler.com
Get Indra’s book, Indra’s Net, and explore his work with Vedic astrology, the Enneagram, astrocartography and the Wheel of Totality.
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Why the Fastest Route Through Your Organisation Isn't Official
2026/10/19
In this episode of Truth and Transcendence, Catherine explores “wormholes” as a metaphor for unexpected openings within companies, organisations and other complex systems that can create a much quicker route from A to B.
A wormhole might be a junior person reaching the CEO with an important message, or an unexpected connection providing exactly the knowledge needed to unlock a problem. The key is recognising that possibilities can exist beyond established structures.
Catherine explores how wormholes may reveal themselves through unexpected conversations, connections or emerging groups, and invites us to stay receptive rather than dismissing developments simply because they were unplanned.
It is a playful exploration of organisational change, possibility and emergence – and the idea that the quickest route through a complex system may not be the official one.
#Wormholes #OrganisationalChange #Leadership
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Where our conversation went:
00:01 Welcome to Truth and Transcendence
00:09 What is a wormhole?
01:04 Wormholes in companies, organisations, cultures and countries
01:38 Discovering organisational wormholes through change work
02:10 How you know when you have found a wormhole
02:54 A junior employee reaching the CEO
03:00 Unexpected connections that unlock organisational problems
03:32 What makes an organisational wormhole surprising and unpredictable
03:47 Why analysis alone will not necessarily reveal a wormhole
04:09 Believing that unexpected possibilities can exist
04:54 How entrenched cultures can cause organisations to miss opportunities
05:23 Opening up to wormholes in complex situations
05:40 Recognising the signs that a wormhole may be opening
06:07 Using unexpected connections to create new possibilities
06:10 The invitation to play with the idea
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Why You Don't Fit In (And Why That's Good) with David Collura
2026/10/16
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes David Collura to explore what it means to risk being original when our spiritual interests and personal path do not fit easily with other people's expectations.
David has taught spirituality, energy and non ordinary states of awareness for more than 15 years. He previously taught with the International Academy of Consciousness and now works with Mosaic Wellness and Education, a nonprofit he co founded with his wife Ashley and three colleagues. He is also the author of Multidimensional Lens: Practical Ideas for Spiritual Co Creation.
They explore authenticity, the risk of not being understood, practical energy work and energetic hygiene, and developing a more creative dialogue with life. David's message: do not discount any part of yourself or your experience. Bring all of yourself into the journey.
#Originality #Spirituality #EnergyWork
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Where our conversation went:
01:48 Risking being original
04:48 What we risk on an unconventional path
06:39 The need to be seen and understood
09:12 How spirituality helped David know himself
11:23 Finding courage to follow your path
13:00 Experiential spiritual practices
16:20 Energy work and our energetic ecosystem
19:20 How spiritual practice changes life
21:09 A more expansive relationship with life
22:45 Agency and creativity
28:14 Energetic hygiene
30:15 David's nightly energy practice
32:23 Mosaic Wellness and Education
35:21 David's message to people following their path
37:47 David's favourite part of the conversation
#podmatch #Spirituality #EnergyWork #SelfDiscovery
Where to find David Collura:
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Mosaic Wellness and Education YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@MosaicWellnessAndEducation
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Why You're Losing Corporate Clients (And How to Fix It)
2026/10/12
Catherine Llewellyn shares lessons she learned from a long and successful career as an executive coach working at Board level in large corporates.
Her work brought together consciousness, self awareness, presence, energy and spirituality, alongside organisational change and business performance.
She explains how introductions opened the door to corporate clients, why finding out what people actually want is more effective than trying to persuade them to buy what you are offering, and how to use skill, authenticity and courage to build trust.
The episode offers practical reflections for anyone working with, or wanting to work with, corporate clients. It explores introductions, authentic contracting, balanced cooperation and the importance of consciously reviewing what is happening within the client relationship
#CorporateClients #ExecutiveCoaching #Consulting
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Where our conversation went:
00:55 How Catherine came to work with senior corporate clients
01:41 The three things that enabled Catherine to enter and succeed in the corporate world
01:59 Why introductions can open doors to corporate clients
03:18 The potential downside when sales and delivery are disconnected
05:13 Finding out what clients actually want rather than persuading them to buy
06:38 Why manipulation does not work and authenticity does
08:15 The importance of meaningful work and positive experiences for senior executives
09:44 Developing an offering that genuinely helps clients achieve what they want
10:48 Trust, skill and courageous communication
11:49 Leaving the organisation and setting up independently
12:18 The research question that led Catherine to interview senior executives
13:14 Interviewing 39 people across around 30 organisations
14:30 What the research revealed about consultant client relationships
14:49 The unconscious parent child dynamic between consultant and client
16:24 Why unconscious role patterns can create problems
17:57 Subpersonalities and the different wants and needs people bring to a working relationship
19:27 Three practical considerations for anyone working with corporate clients
20:05 Creating mutual, balanced cooperation
20:12 Building review and reassessment into the contract
20:30 Recognising unconscious dynamics and unspoken needs
#podmatch #CorporateConsulting #ExecutiveCoaching #Authenticity
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What If You Could See The World With Fresh Eyes? with Stephan Kerby
2026/10/09
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes Stephan Kerby, who goes by Kerby, to explore curiosity, openness and how these qualities can change the way we experience ourselves and the world.
Kerby's own journey through depression, anxiety and a search for fulfilment led him into exploring consciousness, healing and identity. Today he works with people around transformation while continuing to question who we are beneath the stories we tell ourselves.
Kerby shares how curiosity has guided him throughout his life, including a childhood insight about watching the world like a movie and having some choice about how we respond. They explore how becoming curious about our thoughts, beliefs and programming can create space for different responses and new patterns.
The conversation also explores psychedelics as a tool rather than an identity, the danger of putting ourselves and others into boxes, and the possibility of continually evolving rather than deciding that we have everything figured out.
#Curiosity #Openness #HumanTransformation
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Where our conversation went:
01:39 Kerby's lifelong relationship with curiosity
02:51 A childhood insight about watching the world like a movie
04:01 Creating space between what happens and our automatic reactions
05:39 Psychedelics as a tool and the psychology of transformation
07:19 Curiosity as a way of staying open rather than trying to be right
08:23 Questioning our beliefs and remaining open to change
10:14 A bird's nest and noticing the extraordinary things happening around us
13:02 Curiosity about humans, nature, the universe and the beauty surrounding us
15:31 Asking whether our beliefs are actually helping us in this moment
17:52 Mortality, limited time and asking how we want to spend our lives
19:14 The problem with putting people into boxes based on their roles
22:31 Identity and the danger of replacing one identity with another
24:35 Allowing our work and understanding to evolve over time
25:49 Radical transformation and the possibility that anybody can change
26:25 Seeing friends and family with fresh eyes
28:03 Kerby's first psychedelic experience and the beginning of a new journey
31:54 Identity and the first stage of awakening
32:11 Metacognition and learning to notice our thoughts
32:55 Creating space between a thought and our response
33:38 Choosing whether to repeat old patterns or create a new future
35:15 Noticing physical reactions without automatically acting on them
36:49 Kerby's message of hope for anyone who feels stuck
37:18 Free will, automatic patterns and giving ourselves grace
38:15 Moving beyond the expectation that we should be happy all the time
38:44 If you don't feel you are living the life you want, there is hope
38:55 Asking how we want to spend the finite time we have
39:13 Choosing the version of ourselves that brings greater contentment and peace
#podmatch #Curiosity #SelfAwareness #HumanTransformation
Where to find Stephan Kerby:
https://mindscapeinstitute.org
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Finding Your Place in Life: Are You Living the Life You Actually Want?
2026/10/05
Catherine Llewellyn reflects on conversations she has recently been having with people from her past and what these conversations have shown her about the different ways people choose to live their lives.
Some people have found a life that suits them and are enjoying retirement, travel and family. Others are continuing to create, collaborate, work, learn and develop. Some are somewhere in between. Catherine explores what it means to find your place, including recognising when the life you are living is not the life you actually want.
She considers the different relationships people have with work and retirement, and the importance of not living according to what we think we ought to be doing. Whether we are settled and content or uncertain about what comes next, Catherine suggests that wherever we find ourselves has value and can be the place from which the next part of our lives emerges.
#FindingYourPlace #LifeChoices #TruthAndTranscendence
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Where our conversation went:
00:14 Catching up with people from the past and discovering how differently their lives have evolved
00:57 What it means to be living the life you want
01:06 Different versions of a fulfilling life, from retirement and travel to continuing to create and develop
02:09 Finding your place, even when that place is shifting
02:47 When you know the life you want but are living something different
03:03 Recognising when you are trying to do what you think you ought to want
03:19 When you're unhappy but don't yet know why
03:28 Not knowing what to let go of or what to begin
03:38 The value of every different place we find ourselves in
03:54 Catherine's own periods of being on holiday and taking a sabbatical
04:31 Finding a mixture of creating, continuing and being on holiday
04:46 Different attitudes towards retirement and continuing to work throughout life
05:25 Finding your place and appreciating it rather than trying to meet other people's expectations
05:48 The value of acknowledging when you're not yet in a comfortable place
06:03 Uncertainty and fear as a place full of possibility
06:09 Wherever you are has value and is part of the tapestry of human life
06:25 How each state or place we experience can allow the next thing to happen
06:35 An invitation to recognise the value of wherever you are right now
#podmatch #LifeTransitions #PersonalGrowth #FindingYourWay
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Finding Common Ground: David Deighton on the Art of Talking to Strangers
2026/10/02
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes David Deighton, creator of Triptych Dialogue, an art experiment exploring how we can bridge societal divides by changing the way we talk to one another. David's work brings people together in person, often around difficult subjects such as politics, using art, active listening and the senses to create deeper connection.
David shares how his understanding of impermanence developed through years of meditation and study, including time spent at a monastery in India with a Burmese monk. He describes his practice of using rocks as reminders of impermanence, suffering and connection, and how these ideas became part of his artistic work.
They explore the origins of Triptych Dialogue, including an encounter with a medieval triptych at the Victoria and Albert Museum. David explains how the missing parts of the artwork prompted him to think about what is absent from our conversations, and how this led him to begin speaking with strangers about politics.
David describes his approach to these encounters, asking three questions, listening without debating and looking for the emotional common ground beneath political differences. He explains how these short conversations can transform both participants, and how his own anger and sense of division have changed through the practice.
#Impermanence #Connection #ActiveListening
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Where our conversation went:
02:00 David's relationship with impermanence and why it keeps returning as a reminder
04:25 The rock that became a daily reminder of impermanence, suffering and connection
07:05 How the rock represents change, transformation and the interconnectedness of everything
09:30 Walking meditation, carrying rocks and the practice of letting them go
10:45 Impermanence as a metaphor for existence, renewal and our relationships
11:37 David's years of study and his journey to a monastery in India
13:40 Theravada Buddhism, meditation and learning through presence and all the senses
15:30 Bringing this sensory awareness into David's artwork
16:17 Exploring how to create deeper connection with a stranger in less than five minutes
16:29 Talking to strangers about politics and the origins of Triptych Dialogue
20:43 The medieval triptych at the Victoria and Albert Museum that inspired the project
21:27 What is missing from the artwork, and what is missing from our conversations
22:55 Three questions as the three panels of the triptych
23:32 Responding to societal division and turning from political expression towards face to face exchange
25:23 Using all the senses to experience another person's words and perspective
26:05 Finding commonality with people whose values and political views may seem completely opposed
27:05 Discovering emotional connection beneath political disagreement
28:25 How natural environments create space for openness, curiosity and connection
29:04 Moments of genuine human connection in an age of digital division
30:56 How these encounters have changed David
31:50 The three questions and the importance of listening without debating
33:00 Exploring people's feelings about the current state of US politics
33:22 The third question, finishing the sentence about politics in the United States
34:35 Finding a single word that captures what someone has expressed
35:03 What happens after the microphone is turned off
35:41 How people's feelings can change during the course of a single day
36:19 Active listening, presence and David's daily grounding practice
37:42 The project as an ongoing exploration of connection and transformation
38:56 Ceramic vessels, impermanence and preserving questions for the future
40:20 David's new website and continuing to share the project
40:57 Conversations in natural places and learning from others
42:12 Connecting through all the senses and moments of silence with strangers
43:15 Following the project online and hearing the conversations for yourself
44:52 Human connection as a form of political action
46:02 David's message to people following their own calling: keep going, everything is impermanent
46:53 Dropping the phone and talking to a stranger
47:35 The value of vulnerability, connection and allowing ourselves to be transformed
48:14 Rethinking the advice to not talk to strangers
#podmatch #Impermanence #ActiveListening #HumanConnection
Where to find David Deighton:
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What Happens When You Finally Accept Your Feelings?
2026/09/28
Following on from the theme of letting go, Catherine Llewellyn explores what can happen when we stop trying to change our feelings and instead surrender to what we are actually experiencing.
Catherine shares a personal experience from a relationship in which sexual chemistry had changed. Rather than continuing to try to restore the feelings they thought they should have, they asked a simple question about what each of them wanted right now. The resulting clarity and willingness to feel what was actually present transformed the situation.
From there, Catherine explores how the same principle can apply in our other relationships and choices. When we stop trying to control our feelings, we create space for clarity, reflection and natural change. Sometimes the most useful thing we can do is tell the truth about what we feel in this moment and allow that feeling to be what it is.
#LettingGo #EmotionalAwareness #TruthAndTranscendence
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Where our conversation went:
00:06 Continuing the theme of letting go through emotions and states of being
00:18 A relationship in which sexual chemistry unexpectedly changed
01:21 Trying to change feelings rather than surrendering to what was actually happening
01:41 Asking a simple question that changed the dynamic
02:25 The liberation that came from accepting the truth of the present moment
02:50 Why we aren't designed to feel the same way all the time
03:33 The trap of trying to change feelings we don't like
03:47 Fully surrendering to feelings of rejection, disappointment and confusion
04:12 How surrender broke the loop and allowed the relationship to change naturally
04:36 Applying the same principle to other kinds of relationships
04:43 Using present moment clarity when considering whether to work with someone
05:27 How clarity can free up energy for reflection and allow a choice to emerge
05:45 Moving out of limbo by acknowledging what is true right now
06:03 Returning to the relationship with clarity and simply going for a walk
06:27 Letting go into the feelings we are actually having
06:49 Why feelings naturally change when we stop trying to control them
07:03 Making space for different philosophical perspectives
07:31 An invitation to surrender more deeply into what you're actually feeling
07:42 Telling the truth to yourself and, where appropriate, to others
#podmatch #EmotionalFreedom #SelfAwareness #ConsciousRelationships
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Is Stress Actually Good For You? The Truth About Intensity with Nico Verresen
2026/09/25
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes Nico Verresen, former Muay Thai champion, psychologist and founder of Burnout Boxing Experience. Nico explores his lifelong relationship with intensity and how a passion that took him to the top of combat sports eventually led him to a very different mission: helping people embrace intensity rather than automatically seeing stress as something harmful.
After years of fighting, Nico's body finally forced him to stop when severe eye injuries ended his competitive career. The experience helped him recognise that intensity itself wasn't the problem—it was how we related to it. He now works with people to understand their nervous systems, embrace challenging experiences and develop the presence to choose how they respond.
They explore stress as an adaptive system, the difference between stress and suffering, why our beliefs about stress can influence how we experience it, and how challenge can become the “spice” that makes life more alive. Nico also shares how his relationship with intimacy and intensity has evolved, and why emotions such as stress, anger and anxiety can be understood as messages rather than problems to suppress.
#Intensity #NervousSystem #TruthAndTranscendence
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Where our conversation went:
01:18 Nico's lifelong attraction to intensity and where it began
04:00 Discovering Muay Thai and becoming deeply immersed in combat sports
05:54 The medical diagnosis that ended Nico's fighting career
07:47 Recognising the parallels between his father's work ethic and his own drive
08:47 Why suffering your way to the top is a losing game
09:09 Nico's new mission: helping people embrace intensity and stress as part of adaptation
09:48 Learning to notice bodily sensations, thoughts, emotions and impulses—and choose how to respond
11:18 Why many people may need to “turn up the volume” rather than reduce intensity
12:00 Why humans are built to handle intense challenges
14:09 What happens in the body when we experience stress
15:13 How secondary stress—our thoughts and judgements about stress—can make things worse
17:20 How extreme pressure can create intense presence and focus
19:25 Reframing fear and stress as excitement and preparation
20:04 Why our beliefs about stress can affect how we experience it
20:46 Research exploring how different beliefs about stress affect performance and physiology
24:07 The difference between wanted and unwanted intensity—and why people can fear intensity
25:09 Why getting older doesn't necessarily mean having less intensity in life
26:01 How embracing intensity can improve sleep, performance and enjoyment
27:17 The transformative power of challenge and rites of passage
29:19 What we may have lost by becoming disconnected from healthy forms of challenge and intensity
30:22 Experiencing intense presence without danger or suffering
32:05 Finding intensity after giving up competitive fighting
32:31 How heartbreak, relationships and fear of intimacy shaped Nico's relationship with intensity
33:50 Realising that his deepest way of relating is to go fully and deeply into what he loves
34:00 Reassessing his work and finding new sources of intensity
40:54 Learning to experience emotions as messages rather than problems
41:25 Recognising sensitivity and emotional intensity as a potential strength
41:47 Stress, anger and anxiety as signals from the nervous system—and learning to listen
#podmatch #StressMastery #Aliveness #PersonalTransformation
Where to find Nico Verresen:
https://burnoutboxingexperience.com
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Is Your Body Asking for More or Less? A Guide to Letting Go
2026/09/21
Picking up from the previous episode's theme of letting go, Catherine Llewellyn explores what happens when we stop forcing ourselves and instead listen to what the body is actually asking for.
Using her experience with yin yoga as a starting point, Catherine reflects on the Western tendency to push harder, do more and strive to get things “right”. She contrasts this with surrendering into a comfortable stretch, allowing the body to find its own version of a pose, and discovering that letting go can create more relaxation rather than more effort.
The conversation then expands into food, emotions and relationships. What if, instead of automatically responding to hunger, anxiety, discomfort or habitual patterns, we paused and tuned in to what the body is really asking for in that moment? Catherine invites us to become more alive to our bodies, our relationships and ourselves by releasing into what is actually present rather than pushing ourselves beyond it.
#LettingGo #BodyWisdom #ConsciousLiving
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Where our conversation went:
00:07 Letting go as a continuation of the previous episode's theme
00:20 Catherine's experience of yin yoga and the invitation to let go into a pose
00:55 The Western programming to do more, try harder and push through difficulty
01:26 How forcing a stretch can create more tension
01:36 Modifying the pose and discovering that less can actually give us more
02:20 Allowing tension to melt away by relaxing into what feels comfortable
02:36 Surrendering into the body's experience rather than forcing it
02:59 Applying the same principle to fitness, nutrition and how we relate to our bodies
03:39 Pausing to ask the body what it is actually hungry for
04:00 Listening to the body's specific request rather than letting the mind embellish it
05:21 Recognising that cravings may be asking for comfort, connection or something else
05:43 Discovering that the body may be asking for a hug—or for some distance
06:03 Bringing more aliveness into relationships by tuning into what the body is asking for
06:57 Letting go into what the body wants: food, hugs, lovemaking, walking or yoga
07:21 Releasing into the body's limits rather than pushing, yanking or forcing ourselves
07:28 Asking: Are you listening to what your body is asking for?
07:42 Tuning in, surrendering and allowing ourselves to enjoy the experience
#podmatch #BodyAwareness #SelfAwareness #LettingGo
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Life is the Teacher: How Steven Ferrara turned 20 Years of Grief into Wisdom
2026/09/18
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes Steven Ferrara, a lifelong spiritual student, teacher and coach who spent decades building a successful financial services business before selling it to focus fully on his spiritual path.
Steven introduces the idea of the “inside life”—the part of ourselves that can observe our thoughts, emotions and experiences rather than simply reacting to what happens around us. He explains how this inner awareness has helped him live from the inside out, including through the profound losses of his son and his wife.
They explore spiritual awakening, the difference between intellectual learning and true transformation, and why Steven believes that life itself is the teacher. Steven also shares how spirituality and material success can coexist, his approach to coaching through listening rather than motivation, and why inspiration and higher purpose matter more than external achievements.
The conversation also leads to Steven's book, Grief to Gratitude: Embracing the Inner Pathway to Healing and Peace, which grew from more than 20 years of daily journaling and the life lessons he discovered by looking back through his journals.
#InsideLife #SpiritualAwakening #TruthAndTranscendence
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Where our conversation went:
01:44 Steven's early relationship with spirituality and discovering the “inside life”
04:21 The observer, the impact of technology and moving from living “outside in” to “inside out”
05:34 The power and responsibility of choosing how we respond to life's challenges
06:08 Finding a different way through profound grief and traumatic experiences
08:17 Why spiritual understanding isn't necessarily a linear process
08:42 How openness and transformative books can create sudden shifts in understanding
11:38 Why the right mindset matters—and why spiritual learning can remain purely intellectual
12:18 Life as the teacher: learning through direct experience
14:26 How Steven's spiritual path and his career in financial services came together
16:28 Building a large financial services business and recognising the role of timing, opportunity and gratitude
17:21 Why spiritual depth and material success don't have to be opposites
19:04 How love of people and a desire to help shaped Stephen's approach to business
22:18 The importance of mentors, role models and learning from others
24:03 Steven's approach to coaching: deep listening, asking questions and not needing to have all the answers
25:44 Moving beyond motivation towards inspiration and higher purpose
27:04 Finding fulfilment within rather than through external possessions and achievements
28:09 Creating a space for genuine connection, love and higher-consciousness learning
28:54 Who Steven works with—and helping people discover their deeper potential
32:13 Grief to Gratitude: the book born from 20 years of daily journaling
33:16 How journaling became a way through grief and helped reveal the turning points and lessons in Steven's life
38:14 A message for teachers, leaders and others working to be part of the solution
39:00 Why Steven believes more people are moving in a positive direction than the news might suggest
40:54 David Hawkins, consciousness and the possibility of a wider shift in human awareness
42:17 The value of meaningful, significant conversation
#podmatch #SpiritualGrowth #ConsciousLiving #GriefToGratitude
Where to find Steven Ferrara:
https://stevenferrara.com
Book: Grief to Gratitude: Embracing the Inner Pathway to Healing and Peace
https://a.co/d/05y4lv7H
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What You Let Go of Can Be Someone Else's Treasure
2026/09/14
Decluttering is usually framed as getting rid of things we no longer need. But what if we looked at it differently? In this episode, Catherine Llewellyn explores the possibility that what we are releasing may be of real value to someone else.
From jewellery and household possessions to tasks, responsibilities and even relationships, Catherine invites us to consider not only what something is worth to us, but whether it still fits who we are now. Letting go can create space for us while simultaneously creating opportunities for other people.
This is a different way of thinking about decluttering: not as removing something unwanted, but as contributing something that may have greater value elsewhere.
#Decluttering #LettingGo #TruthAndTranscendence
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Where our conversation went:
00:05 Why decluttering has become such a familiar part of modern life
00:28 The possibility that what we no longer need could be of great value to somebody else
00:50 Jewellery as an example: looking beyond financial value to whether it still fits who we are
01:47 Letting go because someone else might benefit more from what we have
02:17 Clearing a relative's home and discovering that things we don't value may be valuable to others
03:07 Moving beyond the idea that decluttering is simply about getting rid of things
03:23 Applying the same principle to tasks and responsibilities
03:29 Could someone else enjoy, develop through or benefit from the tasks that no longer suit us?
03:52 Decluttering as contribution rather than disposal
04:03 Asking what we are contributing and what opportunities we are creating for others
04:18 Letting go of an item, a task—or even an aspect of a relationship
04:35 Creating space for ourselves while making another person available for relationships that may be a better fit
#podmatch #ConsciousLiving #PersonalGrowth #LettingGo
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Why Happiness Is Not Enough: Finding True Joy with Robert White
2026/09/11
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes back Robert White, whose work in experiential learning has reached more than a million people. Robert has spent decades helping people discover their potential through transformational experiences, and today works with entrepreneurs, owners and executives who want greater success, joy and fulfilment.
Robert shares how he moved from a childhood shaped by poverty, abuse and seriousness into a life where joy became a guiding value. They explore the difference between chasing happiness and coming from joy, discovering the meaning we are born to express, and integrating the wisdom of the mind with the wisdom of the heart.
They also discuss completing the past, releasing guilt and blame, readiness for transformation, Robert's adopted son Levi's extraordinary journey, and the two kinds of leaders who seek his help: those in trouble and those who can see a bigger opportunity.
#ExtraordinaryLife #JoyAndFulfilment #TruthAndTranscendence
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Where our conversation went:
04:00 Choosing joy and fulfilment—not just achievement
05:24 Why happiness is an unreliable goal and joy can be something we come from
06:25 Discovering the meaning we're born to express
07:49 The influence of Viktor Frankl and the pursuit of meaning
08:15 How childhood experiences shaped Robert's determination and seriousness
09:00 Learning to look for joy and rediscovering the freedom of childhood
10:32 Integrating mature thinking with the qualities of the heart
14:44 Transforming the belief “I am not enough”
18:00 Helping successful leaders integrate business, family and community
20:16 Three principles: complete the past, tell the truth about the present and choose the future
21:00 Completing the past without remaining stuck in it
25:50 Reframing Robert's story about his mother
29:08 Robert's experience during COVID and the story of his adopted son Levi
31:02 Levi's transformation and commitment to healing his heart
33:44 The key to transformation: readiness
37:03 Readiness in executive and organisational transformation
38:00 Two kinds of clients: those in trouble and those with a bigger opportunity
40:28 The importance of having a cause and meaning behind the work
41:30 The challenge of people problems and leadership
42:02 Two forms of readiness—and wishing people success, joy and fulfilment
#podmatch #PersonalTransformation #Leadership #Joy
Where to find Robert White:
https://extraordinarypeople.com
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The Freedom to Not Know: Why You Don't Need an Opinion
2026/09/07
Catherine Llewellyn explores something deceptively simple: we don't have to have an opinion. In a world full of pressure to decide what is right and wrong, true and false, good and bad, Catherine asks whether our constant need for certainty may actually be limiting our freedom.
She reflects on how we are conditioned from childhood to distinguish right from wrong, and how that useful social conditioning can expand into a demand to have a position on everything. What happens when we allow ourselves to say “I don't know”, “I haven't decided”, or simply “that's not where I want to put my energy”?
This episode is an invitation to step out of judgement, pause before reaching a conclusion, and honour our individual sovereignty—including our freedom not to have an opinion.
#Sovereignty #ConsciousLiving #TruthAndTranscendence
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Where our conversation went:
00:09 The pressure to know what is true, right and wrong—and the urgency to reach a conclusion
01:04 We don't have to have an opinion, agree, disagree or draw a conclusion
01:45 Why our ideas of right and wrong are important—and how they can run out of control
02:58 Applying the need for certainty to relationships and everyday decisions
04:03 The discomfort of saying “I haven't decided yet”
04:35 Is it acceptable simply to say “I don't know”?
05:22 How social pressure can make certain opinions feel forbidden
07:12 The vital importance of honouring our individuality, perspective and sovereignty
07:50 Why a society where everyone agrees on everything would be deadening to human life
08:43 The idea that we must always have an opinion as a form of cognitive slavery
09:11 Taking a pause when you notice yourself judging, labelling or trying to decide
09:53 When decisions are necessary—and when we may simply be forcing ourselves to have an opinion
10:05 Asking: “Am I honouring my own sovereignty in this?”
10:21 Perhaps this isn't where you want to put your energy
#podmatch #PersonalFreedom #SelfSovereignty #ConsciousAwareness
Where to find Catherine:
Website: https://www.beingspace.world
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Brain Athletes: Arnold Beekes on Training Your Mind & Becoming a “Better for All” Leader
2026/09/04
Brain Athletes: Arnold Beekes on Training Your Mind & Becoming a “Better for All” Leader
Catherine Llewellyn welcomes Arnold Beekes back to Truth & Transcendence to explore his work with “brain athletes”—people who deliberately train their thoughts, emotions, relationships and leadership in much the same way an athlete trains their body.
Arnold introduces three ideas at the heart of his approach: unconditioning, aspiration, and united uniqueness. Together, Catherine and Arnold explore the invisible “straitjackets” created by conditioning, the possibility of consciously shaping our emotional states, and the importance of bringing our unique qualities together in service of a world that is “better for all,” rather than simply better for a few.
They also discuss neuroplasticity, self-kindness, the impact of our inner critic, and why becoming more authentic can transform not only our own lives but the lives of everyone around us.
#BrainAthletes #ConsciousLeadership #TruthAndTranscendence
Where our conversation went:
00:00 Welcome back, Arnold Beekes, and introducing the idea of brain athletes
01:36 What is a brain athlete?
04:17 Why we need “better for all” leaders
06:15 Competency, capacity and the aspiration behind leadership
08:45 Three foundations: unconditioning, aspiration and united uniqueness
09:52 How conditioning creates invisible “straitjackets”
13:13 Removing the limitations that prevent us from performing at our best
15:14 Can we consciously engineer our emotional states?
16:10 United uniqueness: bringing different people and qualities together
18:21 “Samification” and the loss of individuality through conditioning
20:10 Why “better for all” includes animals, nature and the whole living world
21:04 Who can become a brain athlete?
22:41 Can we change at any age?
23:40 Arnold’s accident, five years of research and the power of pain as a catalyst for change
28:00 Neuroplasticity and why there is no fixed age limit for developing the brain
30:01 Arnold’s new podcast, Between the Ears
31:20 The first step: being kind to yourself
33:58 Helping someone recognise and reduce their self-criticism
35:35 How our inner world affects our relationships
36:54 The courage to challenge patterns that affect others
38:58 Why our inner and outer worlds need to align
40:11 Arnold’s own journey through conditioning and trauma
41:44 Arnold’s favourite part of the conversation
42:37 Following your calling and creating meaningful change
#podmatch #BrainFitness #PersonalGrowth #Purpose
Where to find Arnold Beekes:
Website: https://brainathletes.club
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Shakespeare Guru 2026/10/06
Transcend Mediocrity with Shakespeare
It's so special when an interview begins with a question that opens doors for greater learning. This interview spiraled upward, transcending itself. W...
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LiYanaSilver 2026/08/29
Real, heartful exploration of tender topics
Catherine is masterful at creating deep space and curating useful and provocative conversation. You’ll leave feeling touched and moved.
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lotsabeans 2026/08/18
Golden Nuggets
I like to call these GOLDEN because Catherines guests and wisdom they co-create on these podcasts are nuggets that truly make us think about who we a...
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Steve Gamlin 2026/05/26
3000 miles apart...yet on the same page!
It is extremely RARE for two similar souls to randomly connect from 3000+ miles apart...but we did! A great big THANK YOU to Catherine for making the...
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ClemtheGreat 2026/05/21
Fantastic host!
Catherine is a magical host, thoughtful, insightful, and so warm and engaging. A deep and wonderful podcast!
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Sophie Malahieude 2026/05/12
Find Inspiration, Be Love
Catherine is a very thorough host. She is prepared and then led the conversation with care for her audience and her guest. There is curiosity, humor, ...
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Fantastic
Catherine is a breath of fresh air. She’s curious, open, and warm. It makes listening a thoughtful and inspiring experience.
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This is such a gift! 2026/04/07
Such a gift
Loved the conversation with Catherine and highly recommend her show. It was absolutely lovely to be a guest.
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Catherine Llewellyn 2026/01/16
Great Connection
Like Joe Rogan, Catherine plays the 2 of Diamonds. She’s well-suited to connect meaningfully with her guests and draw out the valuable nuggets. Talkin...
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Amara333 2026/01/16
Excellent Show
I really enjoy Catherine’s natural conversational style and presence with her guests, which are always so interesting! Her questions always take us d...