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2026/09/23
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Brought to you by Metropolis, Deep Green is a podcast about how the built environment impacts climate change and equity. Buildings are some of the biggest things we make as human beings. We explore how through understanding buildings, cities, and all the things that go into them, we can do better for the environment and all life on this planet.
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Planet Positive Visionary Michael Green
2026/09/23
This year, METROPOLIS recognizes the architect Michael Green with its inaugural Planet Positive Visionary Award for his pioneering work with timber architecture and his vision for architecture that is fundamentally grounded in nature and the earth.
In 2012, Green gave a TED talk titled “Why We Should Build Wooden Skyscrapers” that seeded a new idea in the minds of architects all over North America. “We have an ethic that the Earth grows our food,” he declared, “and we need to move to an ethic in this century that the Earth should grow our homes.” Since then, the mass timber revolution, with Green at its vanguard, has helped transform the construction industry and changed how we think about forestry and forest-based economies. Michael Green Architecture, the firm that Green co-leads with Natalie Telewiak, has completed some of the most significant timber buildings in the world, and has been recognized with over fifty international awards for design excellence.
Resources
Michael Green Architecture
Michael Green: Why We Should Build Wooden Skyscrapers
T3 Minneapolis by Michael Green Architecture
The 2026 Planet Positive Awards Project and Innovation Finalists
33 Articles That Show the Future Is Mass Timber
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Reseat’s Office Furniture Rescue
2026/05/13
Listeners of Deep Green know that we have a big problem with office furniture. In 2018, an estimated 12 million tons of furniture went to landfills in the United States alone, and eight million tons of that was office furniture.
Not cheap e-commerce or flat-pack couches or low-quality furniture. These were desks, workstations, and ergonomic chairs that probably had many more years of life left in them. Now, if we could divert those pieces to new projects and give them a second life, it could mean some money for the original owners, savings for the new owners, and a whole lot of good for the planet.
That's where Reseat comes in. In this episode, created in partnership with Reseat, host Avinash Rajagopal sits down with the company’s founder and CEO, Brandi Susewitz. Building on Susewitz’s deep knowledge of the furniture industry, Reseat is making an increasingly big impact through furniture reuse every year. Listen to learn about what's new with the Reseat platform, how the challenges and opportunities around circularity and design have changed, and why furniture is still a key lever in our transition to a circular built environment.
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Reseat’s Mission
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Wolf-Gordon’s Material Journey
2026/04/22
This Earth Day, Deep Green brings a special conversation. Join host Avinash Rajagopal as he sits down with Marybeth Shaw, Chief Creative Officer, Design and Marketing at Wolf-Gordon, which is partnering on this episode.
Across two stints totaling more than two decades, Shaw has helped lead and shape Wolf-Gordon’s creative vision across fabrics, wallcoverings, wall protection, and acoustics. Among her many contributions, she has pushed the boundaries of collaboration with artists and designers from around the world.
In this episode, Rajagopal and Shaw explore Wolf-Gordon's approach to material innovation and product development through the lens of sustainability. They also discuss the evolution of the manufacturer's offerings—CLAIR, RAMPART Resolve, and RAMPART Fiber—as a way to better understand the strategies design-forward companies are using to advance healthier, more sustainable materials.
Resources:
Wolf-Gordon Sustainability
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Avi Rajagopal: Attention Is Earned, Not Pitched
2026/04/16
What makes a story earn attention in today’s design media landscape? In this episode of Play with Matches, host Tiffany Rafii sits down with Avi Rajagopal, Editor-in-Chief of Metropolis, to unpack how products, projects, and brands break through—and why most don’t. From editorial judgment and timing to positioning and cultural relevance, Avi shares what separates the pitches that land from the ones that get ignored.
Metropolis | Show Transcript
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UpSpring is a strategic PR, marketing, and growth partner for firms and product companies shaping the built environment. For more than 17 years, the agency has helped architecture, design, development, and building product brands turn expertise into market authority.
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The Science of Better Buildings
2026/03/11
METROPOLIS recently released its first U.S. Sustainable Design Report, produced in partnership with Interface, offering a deep dive into the state of sustainability in American architecture and design. Over the coming weeks, we’re speaking with leaders who have a bird’s-eye view of how we can build more sustainably here in the United States—what wins we’ve had, what challenges remain, and where we should focus our efforts.
In this episode of Deep Green, host Avinash Rajagopal is joined by Holly Samuelson, Associate Professor and Fairchild Career Development Chair at MIT's School of Architecture and Planning. She's a building scientist, an architect, and an educator whose work focuses on how building design impacts health and carbon emissions.
At MIT, she directs the Livable Spaces Lab, an interdisciplinary research group advancing healthy, energy-efficient buildings for people and the planet. The lab combines computational and experimental methods to tackle urgent challenges, including heat, vulnerability, thermal resilience, indoor air quality, carbon emissions, and the future of building design in a shifting energy landscape.
Listen in to hear her take on the current state of sustainable design in the U.S., how energy performance and occupant health are increasingly connected, the biggest roadblocks to mainstreaming sustainable strategies, and the tangible steps architects and collaborators can take to create healthier, lower-carbon buildings.
Resources:
Livable Spaces Lab
METROPOLIS Interface U.S. Sustainable Design Report 2026
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How a Big Firm Drives Big Change
2026/03/04
METROPOLIS recently released its first U.S. Sustainable Design Report, produced in partnership with Interface, encapsulating the state of sustainability in American architecture and design. On Deep Green, we’re speaking with leaders who have a bird’s-eye view of how we can build more sustainably here in the United States.
Gensler is the largest architecture and design firm in the world. With more than 6,000 professionals working across 56 offices, the firm generated $1.88 billion in revenue in 2024—that’s billion with a “B.” According to the firm’s recent Resilience by Design report, its 2024 portfolio is projected to avoid emitting 19.6 billion kilograms of carbon dioxide.
In this episode of Deep Green, host Avinash Rajagopal is joined by Katie Mesia, firmwide design resilience leader and director of sustainability at Gensler. A central part of Mesia’s role is shaping Gensler’s culture to help the firm attain its goal of carbon neutrality by 2030.
She consults on deep sustainability strategies for projects around the world, working to reduce carbon emissions and minimize environmental impacts. She has also championed Gensler’s product sustainability standards, helping drive industry-wide adoption of more regenerative materials in architectural interiors.
Listen in to learn how large firms can shift culture at scale, what it really takes to reach carbon neutrality, and where the biggest opportunities for impact lie today.
Resources:
METROPOLIS Interface U.S. Sustainable Design Report 2026
Gensler Product Sustainability (GPS) Standards
Genlser Resilience by Design Report
Design Forecast 2026 | Gensler
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Can We Design Buildings That Give Back?
2026/02/25
METROPOLIS recently released its first U.S. Sustainable Design Report, a deep dive into the state of sustainability in American architecture and design. Over the coming weeks, we’re speaking with leaders who have a bird’s-eye view of how we can build sustainably here in the United States—what wins we've had, what challenges remain, and where we should focus our efforts.
In this episode of Deep Green, host Avinash Rajagopal is joined by Lindsay Baker, CEO of Living Future, the nonprofit behind some of the most ambitious and comprehensive frameworks for sustainable and regenerative design in the built environment. Through initiatives like the Living Building Challenge, Living Future advances a vision of buildings that give back more to nature than they take, creating places in true harmony with life itself.
Baker brings decades of experience across nearly every facet of sustainable design and construction—from her early work as a program manager for LEED, to serving as WeWork’s first head of global sustainability and impact. Together, they discuss regenerative design, transparency in building materials through the Declare label, and what it will take to move from reducing harm to actively restoring the ecosystems we build within.
Resources:
METROPOLIS Interface U.S. Sustainable Design Report 2026
International Living Future Institute
Living Building Challenge
Declare Label
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Closing the Loop at Interface
2026/02/18
For the last three decades, METROPOLIS has been advocating for better spaces, buildings, and cities that make a positive impact on people and the planet.
We recently released our first-ever Metropolis x Interface Sustainable Design Report, a deep dive into the state of sustainability in American architecture and design. Our partner in this endeavor is Interface, a flooring manufacturer that has been a pioneer in transforming American manufacturing.
Since its visionary founder, Ray Anderson, challenged the industry to do better in the mid-1990s, Interface has worked to reduce its environmental impact, draw down carbon emissions, fight waste and climate change, and help accelerate the transition to a circular economy.
In this episode of Deep Green, host Avinash Rajagopal is joined by Jay Lanier, global head of market sustainability, and Mikhail Davis, director of global market sustainability, to discuss the company’s journey and its ongoing efforts around circularity.
Resources:
METROPOLIS Interface U.S. Sustainable Design Report 2026
Interface Sustainability
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Water, Wellness, and the World We Build
2026/01/29
Here at, Deep Green, we've been tracking how businesses in the building industry and architecture and design space are increasingly seeing their place in the world through the lens of their impact on communities and ecosystems.
Now, this is true of many of the B2B companies in our world—companies who make tiles and wallcoverings and roofing and all those kinds of materials, of course. But when a company in the building industry space is a household name, and it recognizes that its efforts can improve people's lives and environments at scale, then something magic happens. Kohler is one of those rare companies.
In this episode of Deep Green, created in partnership with Kohler, host Avi Rajagopal sits down with Laura Kohler, the company’s chief sustainable living officer. Over her career, Laura has championed initiatives that support employees, advance circularity, and expand access to safe water—from launching one of Kohler’s first flexible workplace programs to overseeing Innovation for Good, the I-Prize, Safe Water for All, and the Kohler WasteLAB. She also released the company’s first ESG report and has guided the company’s Arts/Industry residency program, which has hosted more than 500 artists from over 25 countries.
Listen in to learn how a global brand translates vision into action—from integrating sustainability into every stage of design and manufacturing to advancing water stewardship and empowering professionals across the built environment to lead meaningful change.
Resources:
Designers Rethinking Our Relationship to Water (METROPOLIS Fall Issue 2025)
Kohler Impact
Sustainable Products | KOHLER
LEED Certification | KOHLER
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Tech-Powered Sustainability: Autodesk's Vision
2026/01/15
Metropolis senior editor and engagement manager Francisco Brown sits down with Joe Speicher, Chief Sustainability Officer at Autodesk, for a deep dive into the company’s expanding sustainability agenda. Building on the 2023 debut of Autodesk Forma—its AI-driven, cloud-native platform for predesign and schematic design—Speicher outlines how new digital tools are transforming design and construction teams' ability to evaluate performance and reduce environmental impact. Together, they discuss the role of centralized data, energy-efficient design, workplace strategies, and Autodesk’s broader climate commitments in shaping a more sustainable built environment.
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The Ripple Effect of Thoughtful Products
2025/12/04
We talk to a lot of folks from product manufacturing here at Deep Green—and there’s a reason for that. The supply chains of materials and products that make our buildings are still full of opportunities for efficiency and creative breakthroughs.
Improving product design and manufacturing can often have a more holistic impact than say the incremental gains achieved by improving a building’s energy efficiency. We need to work on both, of course—but because products are made by people, any company that makes consistent strides in design, sourcing, and manufacturing can influence communities around the world—from the users who inhabit finished spaces to the workers who supply materials and parts. This kind of networked, multiplier effect has the power to shift entire industries and cultures.
In this episode, created in partnership with Teknion, host Avi Rajagopal sits down with David McDivitt, Vice President of Sustainability at Teknion. The company has long been recognized for its transparency and responsible manufacturing practices, but McDivitt shares where Teknion stands today—and what new opportunities lie ahead for creating even greater impact.
Resources
Teknion Sustainability and Social Responsibility
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Making the Case for Slate
2025/11/04
Here at Deep Green, we often shine a spotlight on traditional building materials that have fallen out of favor for a variety of reasons—but that we believe deserve reconsideration by today’s architects and designers, especially those concerned about the environmental and social impacts of their projects.
Slate—a gray, flaky signifier of 19th-century luxury—for example, is one that we think deserves a second look. Before the 1930s, when asphalt composite shingles became the most common roofing material in North America, the middle class was rushing to build Victorian-style homes or renovate their Georgian and Colonial-style mansions with slate roofs.
And there was a reason. Slate was easy to maintain, elegant in color, and excellent in thermal performance. Many beautiful buildings around the world still prove its durability, with roofs that have lasted hundreds of years. No wonder there was a slate boom in the 19th century—not only in North America but in many other parts of the world where slate roofs have been constructed for thousands of years.
In this episode of Deep Green, created in partnership with CUPACLAD, host Avi Rajagopal sits down with Drew Ford, USA regional sales manager for CUPACLAD, one of the world’s leading slate providers. Listen in to learn what makes slate a great choice today and what new possibilities have opened up for this ancient material.
Resources
CUPACLAD Sustainability
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Rediscovering Tile for Sustainable Design
2025/10/09
Tiles are among the most enduring building materials. Glazed brick tiles have been discovered in archaeological sites and in ancient and medieval buildings around the world. The first glazed porcelain tiles, which date back to 15th-century China, are still around today. And yet, when one thinks of sustainable building products, tile might not be the first to come to mind.
More often than not, today’s building industry—with its culture of constructing and demolishing—fails to take advantage of tile’s inherent sustainability. In today’s context, we require that building materials have the lowest possible carbon footprint and be easily reused or recycled. So, how can tile—with its thousands of years of history—fit into today’s frameworks? And how can we build better with this time-tested material in North America?
In this episode of Deep Green, created in partnership with AHF and Crossville, host Avi Rajagopal sits down with Noah Chitty, Vice President of Sustainability and Technical Services for AHF and Crossville. Part of the AHF family of brands, Crossville has made great strides in optimizing tile manufacturing by innovating with new technologies and providing transparent information to the design community—efforts Chitty has helped drive. Listen to the episode to learn how this ancient material is being reimagined for a more sustainable future.
Resources
Crossville Sustainability
Carbon Neutral Tile by Crossville
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Fractals: Nature's Healing Patterns in Design
2025/09/04
In the 1960s, mathematician Benoît Mandelbrot began exploring a concept he initially called self-similarity—geometric forms whose parts resemble the whole. A simple example is a straight line: any segment of it is also a straight line.
But this kind of geometry also appears in nature, like in the head of Romanesco broccoli. Each floret forms a spiral that mirrors the spiral arrangement of the florets on the entire head.
In 1975, Mandelbrot named this phenomenon a fractal. It turns out fractals are everywhere in nature: the way rivers branch into tributaries, or how a tree trunk grows branches, which then grow twigs.
More recently, researchers have suggested that human brains recognize these fractal patterns—sometimes subconsciously—and because we associate them with nature, seeing fractals can evoke similar calming effects as being in a natural environment.
So, why discuss fractals on a podcast about sustainable architecture and design? Because fractals are common in pre-modern architecture—found in the ornaments of Gothic cathedrals and the niches of medieval mosques—and today, many designers apply fractal principles to objects and materials, creating products that evoke the same sense of well-being as natural environments.
In this episode of Deep Green, created in partnership with Momentum and recorded live from NeoCon 2025, host Avi Rajagopal sits down with Dr. Richard Taylor, whose research underpins our understanding of fractal patterns’ impact, and Anastasija and Martin Lesjak of 13&9, who apply this research in their designs—including a new wallcovering collection for Momentum called Renaturation.
Resources
Momentum Renaturation Collection
13&9 Design
Dr. Richard Taylor’s Research
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Furnishing a Better Future
2025/08/07
When we think of all the ways we could be designing better buildings—especially commercial buildings like office towers or education spaces—there’s one lever that people still don’t pay enough attention to: furniture.
Some numbers for context—about 8 million tons of office furniture end up in U.S. landfills every year. And for a standard office renovation, furniture and furnishings account for about half of the space’s carbon footprint.
So yes, furniture can help prevent harm in the world. It can help us make better buildings. But here’s the exciting part: furniture can also be a tool for doing a whole lot of good.
We touch and interact with furniture every day. Well-designed furniture can make a big difference to our health and well-being. It also takes skill and craft to produce, which means furniture can uplift and empower communities and involve them in finding solutions for people and the planet.
In this episode of Deep Green, created in partnership with Allsteel and recorded live from NeoCon 2025, host Avi Rajagopal sits down with two guests who’ve been helping organizations make real impact through their furniture and architectural product selections: Lisa Brunie-McDermott, Director of Corporate Social Responsibility at HNI Corp., and Madison Gentry, Architectural Product Sales Enablement Manager at Allsteel. Listen in as they discuss how using healthy, beautiful materials in furniture and furnishings can have a multiplier effect on our buildings.
Resources:
“How the Furniture Industry Is Stepping Up on Circularity”
Allsteel Sustainability
HNI Corporate Sustainability
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