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Snex walks through inventing an early mass-phishing scheme and a destructive Trojan and a self-replicating worm he ran on IRC. Highlights Include: Learning BASIC at five on a Tandy, then reverse-engineering AOL base files as a teenagerOptimizing the legendary punter Genocide's duplicate-removal routineDowngrading AOL 3.0 back to 2.0 to dodge puntersBuilding a custom menu into the AOL client windowAOL Secrets, the Lithium Node crew, and sneaking into AOL Live's backstageInventing an early mass-phishing scheme with a fake "AOL Adult" siteA destructive Trojan and a self-replicating SMB worm on IRCRunning a victim's AOL bill up to $5,000 with premium MUD gamesLife after AOL: software engineering, and why AI "vibe coding" won't replace senior engineers Survey Link: ⁠⁠https://airtable.com/app7GJNzwDQ8MMINw/shr4yEBKR6AADMOWo⁠⁠ Guest: Snex Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground PodcastFollow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, @brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 3.0 is working again! - ⁠⁠https://dialtone.live/⁠⁠AOL Underground Discord -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://discord.gg/GvWuJTcTBa⁠⁠⁠Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Fibra grew up a Mac kid in a PC-dominated warez scene, tinkering in HyperCard before discovering AOL4FREE and the elite Mac chat crews of the mid-'90s. He walks through the Mac side of AOL hacking, including FDOs, ResEdit, tokens, and "hells" like One Click, and how that curiosity became a career in software and AI. Today he's reverse-engineered AOL itself with Dialtone and a 68k Mac running in your browser at mac.dialtone.live. Highlights Include: Growing up Mac in a PC warez world, starting with HyperCardAOL4FREE and the Mac Chat elite (Ambient, Symbiont, Mystery Vortex, Tang)FDOs, ResEdit, tokens, and Mac "hells" like One ClickReverse-engineering FDO91 and ADA.dll to build Dialtonemac.dialtone.live: a 68k Mac in the browser connected to AOLAI-assisted reverse engineering and the coming wave of prompt-injection security issuesGuest: Fibra https://mac.dialtone.live/https://x.com/SiliconForestedhttps://github.com/iconidentifySurvey Link: ⁠https://airtable.com/app7GJNzwDQ8MMINw/shr4yEBKR6AADMOWo⁠ Guest: Fibra Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground PodcastFollow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, @brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 3.0 is working again! - ⁠https://dialtone.live/⁠AOL Underground Discord -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://discord.gg/GvWuJTcTBa⁠⁠⁠Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

The president of the ARiSE warez group tells us about his experience with BBS, Prodigy, QuantumLink, AOL, and IRC. He also talks about the early days of the warez scene, notable groups at the time, what it is like running a warez group, and his experience carding at age 13. Survey Link: https://airtable.com/app7GJNzwDQ8MMINw/shr4yEBKR6AADMOWo Guest: Rajuabju Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground PodcastFollow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, @brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 3.0 is working again! - https://dialtone.live/ReAOL Discord -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Pwning AOL with pure FDO. Hacking employee accounts. Downloading AOL files and posting them to aol-files.com. BMB recounts his amazing story Guest: BMB Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground PodcastFollow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, @brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ReAOL Discord -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Creator of Millennium, Blizzard, and Code Genie. Despite facing relentless criticism and accusations of code theft, his software gained widespread use. He remains active in coding today, applying lessons from the AOL scene to modern projects like his mobile wagering game, rockshotrush.com. Highlights Include: Origin of the handle "BoFeN" and his other alias "Nova". He was also known as TRiPP. Creation of Code Genie, a tool that automatically generated VB code for AOL interaction via the Windows APIUse of a "poser check" in his software to expose imposters claiming to be himDevelopment of a password-stealing executable disguised as a "Punter that Finally Works"Evolution from copying interfaces to building original, widely-used programs like BlizzardCurrent project: Rock Shop Rush, a mobile game with anti-cheat design rooted in his AOL experiences. rockshotrush.com⁠ Guest: BoFeN Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground PodcastFollow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ @AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, @brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube-⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ReAOL Discord -⁠⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠⁠⁠Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠⁠AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠⁠Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

The creator of KillTimer tells his story! Blog post about Killtimer: https://adventuresincomputing.bajgier.net/development/storytelling/2024/10/08/the-killtimer-story.html Highlights Include: First experiences with computers and getting onlineTeenage hacking, phishing, and the underground AOL sceneAOL beta program memories and chatroom hijinksEarly programming projects: Visual Basic, Delphi, C, C++, JavaThe story behind KillTimer: motivation, development, and releaseWebsite building, banner ads, and software site submissions Guest: Barrac1315Host: Steve StonebrakerAudio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠)CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. --AOL Underground PodcastFollow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠, @brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ReAOL Discord -⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠⁠Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠--OtherCheck out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Suspect shares his journey through the scene, starting from his first experiences with computers in the mid-90s and becoming active in the AOL community from 2000 to 2008. He discusses early programming interests, the thrill and risks of downloading and creating software, and the culture of exploiting vulnerabilities in platforms like PHPBB and AOL/AIM screen names. Suspect also reflects on the unique social dynamics of AOL chat rooms and the transition from online exploits to real-life challenges and personal growth. The episode offers a nostalgic look at the technical creativity and camaraderie of the early internet era. Highlights Include: Discovering computers and early web exploits in schoolTransitioning from downloading programs to writing original codeThe culture of keylogging, screen name cracking, and AOL exploitsUsing Google to find vulnerable PHP forums and leveraging SQL injectionThe social scene of AOL chat rooms versus today’s online communitiesPersonal growth, life changes, and returning to tech through web development Guest: Suspect Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord -⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠ AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Pat or JK shares why he created API Spy, a tool for automating Windows API interactions and Find That Bas, which analyzed .bas files to detect code reuse. Pat also talks about AIM Flash, genozide.bas, and getting Vader Fader to function on AOL 4.0. We discuss how he cracked MaGuS's Fate Zero's encryption. The episode wraps up with Pat's creative project, sub pixel snake, highlighting his inventive approach to programming. MaGuS if you read this please contact [email protected], everyone wants to hear your story! Guest: Patrick Gillespie - ⁠https://patorjk.com/⁠ Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. Show Notes: Pat's website - https://patorjk.com/Twitter - @patorjkSubpixel Snake - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDwganLjpW0Vader Fader on AOL 4.0 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uly3hbtzKQCracking MaGuS’s Fate Zero Encryption https://patorjk.com/blog/2012/05/03/cracking-magus-fate-zero-encryption/ -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground, ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord -⁠⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠⁠ Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠⁠ AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠⁠ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Robbie's programming journey began with early exposure to computers and the internet, where he explored bulletin board systems and platforms like Virtual Places. He quickly became immersed in creating bots, filters, and tools for clan wars and later transitioned his skills to AOL Instant Messenger. Known for reverse-engineering protocols and crafting exploits, Robbie's work left a mark on the underground programming scene, driven by creativity and the thrill of innovation. Guest: Robbie Saunders -https://www.linkedin.com/in/robbiesaunders/ Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. Extras: https://www.informationweek.com/it-leadership/w00w00-s-suggested-aim-fix-is-no-fix -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord -⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠ Podcast Community Page -⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠ AOL 4.0 is working! -⁠⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Squirrel recounts experimenting with Visual Basic, creating programs, dabbling in exploits, and cracking OH and Internal accounts by bypassing SecureID via AOL Net Connect. Squirrel also discusses his transition to broader internet activities, including affiliate automation and early scripting exploits, while balancing his social life and tech interests. Guest: Squirrel Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord - ⁠⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠⁠ Podcast Community Page - ⁠⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠⁠ AOL 4.0 is working! - ⁠⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠⁠ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Seven's journey began with curiosity about a crash exploit, which evolved into mastering programming languages like Visual Basic and C#. Known for creating tools like "AIM Invader" and reverse-engineering AIM protocols, Seven became a pivotal figure in the underground programming community. Despite facing legal challenges, Seven leveraged his skills to build a successful career, inspiring others through innovation and resilience. Guest: Seven Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. Episode Extras: https://aolunderground.com/seven/ -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord - ⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠ Podcast Community Page - ⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠ AOL 4.0 is working! - ⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

Blaine (Soloist) tells us his journey from a kid connecting to local BBSs, finding AOL, learning to program, spamming for an affiliate network, and then finally finding his true passion; building websites and businesses. Guest: Blaine Vess (https://www.linkedin.com/in/blainevess/, https://www.immeasurable.com/) Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube - ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠ Merch - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord - ⁠https://discord.gg/p3ol⁠ Podcast Community Page - ⁠https://aolunderground.com/community/⁠ AOL 4.0 is working! - ⁠https://nina.chat/connect/aol/⁠ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

We cover music and video piracy and delve in deep into the many websites and schemes ShiZZa OaK was able to probe and exploit for profit. Coupon stacking, gift card re-use, OSX Upgrade disc enumeration, etc. Guest: ShiZZa Oak Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord - https://discord.gg/p3ol Podcast Community Page - https://aolunderground.com/community/ AOL 4.0 is working! - https://nina.chat/connect/aol/ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

ShiZZa OaK tells us about his switch to IRC and joining one of the first mp3 ripping groups on the scene, Rabid Neurosis (RNS) and hosting an mp3 top site. We also talk about his phone hijinks when phreaking, calling Miss Cleo, and cracking passwords. Other MP3 ripping groups mentioned: Underground Music Alliance CDA - Compress 'Da Audio Guest: ShiZZa Oak Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. Episode References: How Music Got Free Rabid Neurosis mp3scene.info -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠⁠ Merch - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord - https://discord.gg/p3ol Podcast Community Page - https://aolunderground.com/community/ AOL 4.0 is working! - https://nina.chat/connect/aol/ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker

ShiZZa OaK talks about the early days on AOL, getting early access to a Windows 95 Beta CD, 0-day ftp site access, trolling MTV Yack Live and the first mp3 ripped and uploaded to the scene. Guest: ShiZZa Oak Host: Steve Stonebraker Audio Editor: Sam Fox ([email protected]⁠⁠⁠) CoverArt: Created by Broast (⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://broast.org⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠), original idea by LampGold. Episode References: MTV Yack Live - Greenday -- AOL Underground Podcast Follow us on twitter - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@brakertech⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Reddit - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.reddit.com/r/AOLUnderground/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Youtube - ⁠⁠⁠https://www.youtube.com/@AOLUndergroundPodcast⁠⁠⁠ Merch - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.redbubble.com/people/AOL-Underground/shop⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donate - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AOLUnderground⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Contact the Host -⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ https://aolunderground.com/contact-host/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ReAOL Discord - https://discord.gg/p3ol Podcast Community Page - https://aolunderground.com/community/ AOL 4.0 is working! - https://nina.chat/connect/aol/ -- Other Check out my wife's Etsy shop - ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.etsy.com/shop/Snowbraker