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Hosted by Associate Professor Jen Martin and Dr Michael Wheeler, Let’s Talk SciComm is a podcast from the University of Melbourne’s Science Communication Teaching Program. Listen for advice, tips and interviews about how to communicate science in effective and engaging ways. Show notes, transcripts and more info: https://science.unimelb.edu.au/engage/lets-talk-scicomm-podcast
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156. Listen To This If… You Need To Introduce A Speaker
2026/10/15
Been asked to introduce a speaker: at a conference, on a panel, or at an event big or small, and want to get it right? In this short episode, Jen and Michael share how to do that job well, starting with a reminder of what it’s actually for: warming up the room for the speaker, not showcasing yourself. They talk through the things that make all the difference - speaking to the person beforehand (and checking how to pronounce their name and their pronouns), finding one warm, human detail that no bio would give you, resisting the urge to read out a long list of accolades, and setting a calm, generous tone that the speaker can step straight into.
You can find more great advice here:
Introducing a speaker? Here are 5 tips: On brevity, genuine enthusiasm, and striking the right balance between personal and professional.
How to introduce a speaker (with examples): Practical, example-led advice on opening with a hook and telling a story rather than reading a bio aloud.
Chairing sessions: A researcher-focused guide to introducing speakers warmly and chairing a session effectively.
155. Interview with science communicator and author Aśka
2026/10/08
This week we were delighted to be joined by the wonderful Aśka (pronounced 'Ash-ka'; she/they): award-winning comics maker, visual storyteller, science communicator and former quantum physicist, whose career is a glorious collision of two worlds that rarely meet. Before the drawing board, Aśka earned a first-class honours degree in physics (complete with a university medal) and spent several years in quantum optics labs across Australia, Germany and Denmark, work she describes as tickling atoms until they give up their secrets and glow fluorescent green.
Somewhere along the way she swapped the lab for the page, and has since published more than a dozen books and graphic novels, spent seven years touring Western Australia as a travelling science presenter with Scitech, and now teaches students of all ages how to "write with pictures". Their latest young adult graphic novel, The Friendship Paradox, draws all these threads together in the story of Dash, who tries to use the laws of physics to make sense of other people. It’s a stunning book about science, but even more about friendship, difference and self-acceptance.
Join us for a wonderful conversation about the leap from quantum optics to comics, why pictures sit unfairly at the bottom of our communication hierarchy, what years on the road taught Aśka about making science feel personal, and her lovely advice to pick up a concept and roll it around in your hands until you find a surprising new way in.
You can connect with Aśka and learn more about their work here:
Aśka's website: askastorytelling.com
The Friendship Paradox (Allen & Unwin): https://www.allenandunwin.com/browse/book/A%C5%9Bka-Friendship-Paradox-9781761181689, a teaser of the book
The Cosmic Adventures of Alice and Bob: a free middle-grade comic Aśka co-created about research and searching in science
Qublings – Quantum Siblings, an award-winning comic about quantum entanglement: askastorytelling.com/short-comics
Aśka's blog post on science communication through pictures: askastorytelling.com/musings
Non-fiction middle-grade books Aśka has illustrated: Behind the Screens and How to Save the Whole Blinkin' Planet
Instagram: @askastorytelling
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/askastorytelling/
154. Listen To This If… Someone Says ‘So What?' About Your Science
2026/10/01
Ever had someone you care about listen to you talk about your work and ask, "so what?". It stings, but what if it's actually a gift? In this short episode, Jen and Michael reframe that deflating moment as one of the most useful questions you'll ever be asked: the very thing every funder, editor and audience member is quietly wondering anyway. They talk through how to answer it well: distinguishing why your work matters in your field from why it matters to the person in front of you, using the "five whys" to dig down to something they genuinely care about, and turning all those answers into a handful of ready-made hooks for different people and situations.
You can find more great advice here:
The Message Box. The signature (and free) science communication tool whose whole crux is the "So what? Why should your audience care?" question, with a different version built for each audience you want to reach.
Research contribution vs significance. A clear, recent piece from the wonderful Pat Thomson framing significance as the "so what?" of your work, warning against both the vague non-answer ("it's important because mental health matters") and underselling what you've done.
153. Interview with comedian and science communicator Alanta Colley
2026/09/24
This week we were thrilled to be joined by the wonderful Alanta Colley - Naarm/ Melbourne-based comedian, science communicator and storyteller, and living proof that the path into science communication is rarely a straight line. With a background in international public health, Alanta spent two years doing public health work in rural eastern Uganda, coordinating HIV education, setting up mosquito-net micro-businesses and running sanitation campaigns. Along the way, she collected a few unwanted souvenirs in the form of several parasites. Rather than quietly moving on, she turned the experience into her first solo show, Parasites Lost, which sold out its entire run at the 2017 Melbourne International Comedy Festival. She's since written and toured a string of solo shows: Days of Our Hives on beekeeping, On the Origin of Faeces on the gut microbiome, and Trick or Treatment on the evidence behind alternative medicine, performing across Australia, New Zealand and for the Gates Foundation in Seattle, and she's the co-founder of Sci Fight, Melbourne's long-running science comedy debate series.
Join us for a fabulous chat about non-linear careers, what public health work in Uganda taught Alanta about listening and testing your assumptions, the delicate art of balancing "funny" with "too much information", why failure is one of the most powerful tools in both comedy and science communication, and her advice for anyone whose knees knock at the very thought of public speaking.
You can follow Alanta and find out more about her work here:
Alanta on the Shirtloads of Science podcast: shirtloadsofscience.libsyn.com
Instagram: @alanta_colley and @sci_fight_science_comedy
https://www.linkedin.com/in/alanta-colley-2a018843/
152. Listen To This If… You’re preparing for your thesis oral defence
2026/09/10
Preparing for your thesis oral defence (the viva, the oral exam, whatever it's called in your neck of the woods) and quietly dreading it? In this short episode, Jen and Michael reframe the whole experience: your defence isn't an interrogation, it's a conversation between engaged and curious colleagues welcoming you into the field, not with adversaries who are hunting for holes. They share practical ways to prepare - knowing your discussion section inside out, planning honest and non-defensive answers to the questions you're dreading, and being upfront that every piece of research has its limitations. And with AI making it more important than ever to show you can talk candidly about your own work, they suspect oral defences are only going to become more common.
You can find more great advice here:
How to survive a thesis defence A classic, practical guide: you know your work better than anyone, the examiners aren't out to get you, and a pause to think is your friend.
The dreaded doctoral defense From The Thesis Whisperer, Australia's best-known PhD blog, on reframing the defence and preparing for the questions you're dreading.
How to present an effective and successful viva voce A thorough, recently updated guide making the same core point Jen and Michael do: the viva is a conversation, not an interrogation, and the common questions are entirely predictable.
The viva. From the UK's researcher-development body, which frames the viva as a chance to discuss your work with experienced experts and recommends a calm, non-confrontational approach to any criticism.
151. Interview with native bee researcher and performer Dr Kit Prendergast
2026/09/03
This week we were absolutely delighted (and, we'll admit, a little starstruck) to sit down with Dr Kit Prendergast: native bee researcher, taxonomist, conservation biologist, science communicator and performing artist, better known to many as Bee Babette. Kit came to science through a blend of the arts and the sciences, and that mix of creativity and rigour has come to define her career. She fell for native bees back in 2016, drawn in by macro photography and bee hotels, and went on to complete her PhD at Curtin University as a Forrest Research Scholar studying native bee biodiversity, urban pollination networks, and the genuinely contentious question of how introduced European honeybees affect our native species. Since then she's been remarkably prolific: more than 80 peer-reviewed papers, two brand-new bee species described (one named after her beloved dog, Zephyr), an award-winning science circus comedy show called The Birds & the Bees, a book, a swag of outreach awards, and a real knack for throwing out the rulebook on how scientists engage the public.
Join us for a fabulous conversation about falling in love with native bees, the trouble with "bee washing", why species names matter far more than you'd think, combining acrobatics with science on stage, and Kit's advice to be unapologetically your true self.
You can follow Kit and find out more about her work here:
Everything Bee Babette on Patreon: patreon.com/cw/TheBeeBabette
Kit's Forrest Research profile: forrestresearch.org.au/profiles/dr-kit-prendergast
YouTube: The Bee Babette
Instagram: @dr.beebabette
LinkedIn: https://au.linkedin.com/in/dr-kit-prendergast-7b9250135
Facebook: Kit Prendergast, The Buzz on Wild Bees, and Creating a Haven for Native Bees
150. Listen To This If… You’re Struggling With Perfectionism
2026/08/28
Perfectionism isn't all bad — it usually means you care deeply about your work. The trouble starts when it tips into paralysis and nothing ever makes it out into the world. In this short episode, Jen and Michael share how they've learned to hit publish anyway: separating high standards from a fear of being judged, asking what you'd tell a friend in the same boat, gathering people who'll remind you your work is good enough, and using deadlines to get comfortable with "that'll do."
Their verdict? Done is better than perfect (and salted caramel ice cream might just be the exception that proves nothing else can be perfect).
You can find more great advice here:
How to escape perfectionism as an excellent researcher The crucial difference between striving for excellence and chasing perfection.
Identifying and overcoming perfectionism in academic writers Why high standards help, perfectionism doesn't, and "done is good enough" more often than we think.
How would you treat a friend? A simple, research-backed exercise built on exactly Michael's question: what would you say to a friend, and can you say it to yourself?
149. Interview with marine biologist and science comedian Forrest Shaw
2026/08/20
We're kicking off Season 20 with a guest whose career path we found completely fascinating. Forrest Shaw is a stand-up comedian and writer whose comedy career began after a decade working as a marine and environmental biologist in his hometown of Miami, Florida - a career that saw him study everything from manatees and sea turtles to seagrass meadows, coral reefs and water quality. So it's safe to say he knows his way around the ocean. Then he made the kind of career pivot a lot of scientists quietly daydream about: he moved into stand-up, and has absolutely thrived, performing at some of the biggest comedy festivals in the world: Netflix Is A Joke Fest, Just For Laughs in Montreal, Moontower, Clusterfest and Bridgetown among them, and releasing his debut special, Poor Decisions, on Amazon. Most recently he brought his science-based comedy show The Ocean Hates You! (all about pollution, overfishing, climate change, sharks, and why talking about the ocean doesn't have to feel like going to a funeral), to the Adelaide Fringe.
Join us for a joyful conversation about ten years in marine science, the leap into stand-up, and why making people laugh might be one of the most powerful ways to make them care.
You can learn more about Forrest’s work here:
Forrest's website: forrestshaw.net
Instagram: @forrestshaw and @theoceanhatesyou
Facebook: @forrestshawcomedian and @theoceanhatesyou
148. Listen To This If… You’re Facing A Big Deadline
2026/08/06
Staring down a big deadline and suddenly overcome by the urge to tidy your desk, reorganise your bookshelf, or look up random facts? You're in good company. In this short episode, Jen and Michael (both fresh from some very big deadlines of their own) share how they get unstuck: treating procrastination as an emotional issue rather than a time-management one, being kind to yourself when you've (once again) left it late, holding onto the basics like sleep and good food, and remembering that progress always beats perfection.
You can find more great advice here:
Procrastination is an emotional problem, Fast Company - why the fix is managing your feelings, not your calendar.
Why we procrastinate and what to do about it, APA's Speaking of Psychology podcast - a researcher on the surprising role of self-compassion.
Emotion regulation and procrastination, Solving Procrastination - practical, evidence-based strategies for getting started.
Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/nu8h
147. Interview with science communicator and Miscible founder Molly Patton
2026/07/30
This week we were thrilled to be joined by the wonderful Molly Patton - founder, sci-comm lead and producer at Miscible, a Melbourne-based science communication studio that has quickly made a name for itself for the way it turns complex research into visually striking, deeply engaging stories. Molly's path here is a fascinating one: a former biomaterials postgrad, she walked away from academia after watching the same three problems crop up again and again: no time, no funding, and no shared language to explain why the work actually mattered. With a dual background in science and the arts (photography in particular), she's spent the last nine years leading creative teams to help researchers communicate work that is, in her words, "easy to understand and impossible to ignore" - translation work that has supported nearly $200 million in research funding in just the past four years.
Join us for a fabulous conversation about why science and the arts were never meant to be separate, science communication as a profession in its own right, the art of a great grant application, and Molly's lovely reminder to be human first and scientist second.
You can follow Molly and learn more about her work here:
Molly on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/mollypatton
Miscible on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/company/miscible-co
Molly's Substack: mollykpatton.substack.com
And, since he got a mention, Molly's very photogenic dog Kodak: @kodak_the_bluemerle
Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/z58h
146. Listen To This If… You’re Preparing for a Radio Interview
2026/07/23
Been invited to talk about your research on the radio? Congratulations, and welcome to the world of "wild listeners." In this short episode, Jen and Michael explain why radio is unlike almost any other communication opportunity you'll get: your audience hasn't tuned in specifically for you, and they're very likely driving, cooking, or wrangling a toddler while you talk. Michael shares his practical tips for cutting through - short soundbites, signposting ("this matters for three reasons"), and a bit of repetition to help distracted listeners follow you. Jen, who has been talking about science on the radio for twenty years, makes the case that radio is fundamentally about human connection, not perfection: bring your whole self, be willing to stumble, smile while you speak, and prepare by talking out loud about your work rather than clinging to a script.
You can find more great advice here:
Top tips for media work: a guide for scientists, Science Media Centre - a practical checklist for broadcast interviews, including what to ask before you say yes.
What makes a great radio interview, COMPASS - a radio producer's perspective on what makes a scientist a great guest.
TV and radio media tips, AAAS - the nuts and bolts, including just how short a soundbite really needs to be.
Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/q58h
145. Interview with anthropologist, neuroscientist and board game inventor Dr Paul Mason
2026/07/16
This week we were thrilled to chat with the wonderfully interdisciplinary Dr Paul Mason: anthropologist, neuroscientist, medical researcher, and inventor of a dung beetle board game. Paul cheerfully describes his own CV as looking "like a pizza with the lot" (with, somehow, even the pineapple on there). Paul is also a musician, dancer and capoeira practitioner who began his studies wanting to get into brain research, before realising he was far more interested in understanding the brain in context. That curiosity took him from laboratory internships at the Howard Florey Institute (and beyond) into a PhD in anthropology, and out into the world doing fieldwork with arts communities in Indonesia and Brazil, infectious disease patients in Vietnam and Papua New Guinea, and conservation education at Taronga Zoo.
In our wide-ranging conversation, Paul shares why he believes good science communication actually makes for good science, and how creative formats can carry serious ideas to the people who need them most. We talk about his award-winning children's book about tuberculosis (translated into thirty languages and distributed free in four countries) his dung beetle board game Hexcrement, and the surprising social magic of gathering people around a table to play. Paul also offers his best advice for researchers who want real-world impact: put in the work to ask good, well-structured questions, and always make it easy for people to help you - because kindness begets kindness, and communities of shared practice are where change begins.
You can follow Paul and learn more about his work here:
https://paul.sobriquet.net/
Fresh Produce Bioactives: freshproducebioactives.com.au
Insta: @freshproducebioactives and @sociocerebral
Hexcrement, via Aelytra Conservation: aelytra.com
Paul's tuberculosis children's book: https://paul.sobriquet.net/publications/Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/k58h
144. Listen To This If… You Want To Explain Your Science Without "Dumbing It Down"
2026/07/09
"I'm happy to talk to different audiences, but I don't want to dumb down my research."
It's a phrase Jen and Michael both quietly dread and in this short episode, they dig into why it rubs them the wrong way. The problem isn't wanting to stay accurate; it's the assumption baked into "dumbing down" that your audience isn't intelligent. Jen and Michael reframe the whole challenge: it's not about simplifying your ideas, it's about simplifying your language while keeping every bit of nuance intact. Along the way they share why getting your audience to care comes first, how "clarifying" beats "simplifying," and why explaining your work simply is one of the best ways to understand it more deeply yourself.
You can find more great advice here:
Tim Radford, A Manifesto for the Simple Scribe - the source of the fantastic quote we talk about: "Don't overestimate your reader's knowledge and don't underestimate their intelligence."
Ed Yong, On jargon, and why it matters in science writing - a lovely case for replacing jargon rather than dumbing down.
Don't dumb it down: the effects of jargon in COVID-19 crisis communication - research on why audiences engage with complexity.
Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/j7ah
143. Interview with astrometallurgist Dr Matt Shaw
2026/07/02
Have you ever met an astrometallurgist? Neither had we, until we had the great pleasure of chatting with Dr Matt Shaw on this week's episode!
Matt's career genuinely sounds like it was pulled straight from the pages of a sci-fi novel, but it's very much grounded in real, cutting-edge science. He began as a metallurgist in the mining industry - extracting metals like gold from rocks, or as he describes it, "basically Minecraft, but in real life" - working everywhere from the Australian desert to the Canadian Arctic. Having mastered some of the most extreme environments on Earth, Matt decided to tackle the ultimate hostile environment: space. He completed a PhD in astrometallurgy at Swinburne University, exploring how we might one day extract and process materials on the Moon, and worked with CSIRO's space in-situ resource utilisation (ISRU) team developing technologies to produce water, oxygen and metals beyond Earth.
These days, Matt continues his space research while working predominantly with the Green Steel and Critical Minerals teams at CSIRO Clayton, investigating innovative ways to reduce emissions and tackle one of the biggest challenges facing our planet: how to make green steel.
But what makes Matt especially exciting to talk with isn't just the very cool science. It's his passion for communication and collaboration. Whether he's talking with school students, appearing in the media or engaging with the public, Matt has a real knack for making complex ideas feel both exciting and accessible - and he's got the track record to prove it:
Winner, Asia-Pacific Three Minute Thesis (3MT) Competition 2021 – watch Matt's winning talk
Judge, Asia-Pacific 3MT Final 2022
Runner-up, FameLab Australia 2023 – watch Matt's presentation
STEMPals Curiosity Communicator Award 2024
You can follow Matt and learn more about his work here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthew-shaw-001/
Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/r7ah
142. Listen To This If… You feel like an imposter
2026/06/25
Ever feel like you don't quite belong, or that everyone around you knows what they're doing while you're just hoping no one finds out that you don’t? In this season’s first Listen To This Episode, Jen and Michael talk honestly about the imposter experience at work: why feeling like a bit of a fraud is more normal (and more useful) than you might think, and how to keep showing up anyway.
Sharing how you feel with friends, colleagues, family, or supervisors helps you realise how normal the imposter experience really is, and that it's a sign you're challenging yourself in all the right ways.
You can find more great advice here:
https://www.nyas.org/ideas-insights/blog/confronting-imposter-syndrome-in-stem/
https://jobs.sciencecareers.org/article/how-to-banish-impostor-syndrome
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-02408-z
https://www.une.edu.au/current-students/support/student-support/une-wellness-centre/mental-health-resources/imposter-syndrome
In this TEDx talk, Mike Cannon-Brookes offers a funny and reassuring take on how impostor syndrome can sometimes be used as fuel rather than treated only as a flaw. https://www.ted.com/talks/mike_cannon_brookes_how_you_can_use_impostor_syndrome_to_your_benefit
This short Science careers piece offers practical advice for researchers who feel like frauds, starting from the useful reminder that “you are not a fraud.” https://www.science.org/content/article/how-banish-impostor-syndrome
Transcript: https://go.unimelb.edu.au/x7ah
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