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Moody’s Talks – Behind the Bonds

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2021/10/20
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2025/06/24
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17 min.
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35 days

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On Moody’s Talks - Behind the Bonds, hosts Tania Hall and Jeff Pruzan join analysts from Moody’s corporate finance group worldwide to discuss the market forces shaping credit across industries - from airlines to telecoms and everything in between. These forces include the uneven recovery from the coronavirus pandemic, digital transformation, cyber risk, climate-change imperatives and much more. Please join us as we connect the dots on corporate credit quality.

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Industry Outlooks Turn Negative Amid Mounting Risks
2025/06/24
Our view of credit fundamentals – a mix of financial and business conditions – has turned increasingly negative across sectors. We examine why industries like airlines and retail are under strain, while others like aerospace and defense are staying afloat.   Hosts: Tania Hall, Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings; Tom Coghlan, AVP-Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings    Guests: Sven Reinke, Managing Director, Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings; Frederic Duranson, Vice President - Senior Analyst, Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings   Related research: Aerospace & Defense – Global: Outlook remains positive on sustained demand despite tariff, supply chain effects, 3 June 2025Airline – Global: Outlook negative as growth in demand for travel stalls amid rising economic concerns, 30 May 2025Retail & Apparel – Global: Outlook turns negative as companies and consumers contend with tariff uncertainties, 14 April 2025
How Data Centers Are Defying Growth Risks
2025/05/07
Increasing use of artificial intelligence (AI) is spurring massive investment in data centers, which could top $2 trillion in the next four years. But huge energy requirements and uncertainties over future computing needs may pose long-term credit risks to developers, landlords and investors.    Host: Louis Hau, Vice President - Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings   Guests: John Medina, Senior Vice President, Moody's Ratings; Ryan Wobbrock, Vice President - Senior Credit Officer, Moody’s Ratings   Related research: moodys.com/datacentersData Centres – Europe: Capacity to double by 2028, but energy access and regulation may constrain growth, 14 April 2025Data Centers – Global: 2025 Outlook – Developer leverage, regulatory risk to rise as growth surges, 14 January 2025   
How ‘Disrupters’ Transform Credit Quality and Sectors
2025/04/16
From Tesla to Netflix, innovative technologies and market-disrupting products are still grabbing the attention of consumers and investors. In a rapidly changing market environment, we look at how to identify true disrupters at an early stage and how their credit quality evolves. We’ll also dive into industries being shaken up by disruptions: new weight loss drugs in the pharmaceutical sector and the impact of AI startup DeepSeek on Chinese technology companies.   Hosts: Jeff Pruzan, VP, Senior Research Writer - Moody’s Ratings; Livia Yap, VP, Senior Research Writer - Moody’s Ratings   Guests: Peter Abdill, MD, Corporate Finance Group - Moody’s Ratings; Shawn Xiong, VP, Senior Analyst - Moody’s Ratings   Related research: Top of Mind - Corporates April 2025Corporates – Global: ‘Disrupters’ can benefit from innovation even before their credit metrics catch up 
How US Tariffs Would Affect Business and Credit
2025/03/19
US tariffs threaten a potential global trade war. Recent weeks have seen frequent shifts in US policy on tariffs as well as the announcement of counter moves from trade partners. What are the likely consequences for credit across different sectors of the US economy and more broadly across global markets?   Guest: Paloma San Valentin, Managing Director - North America Corporate Finance, Moody's’ Ratings   Host: Jeff Pruzan, Vice President, Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings    To read more on this topic, visit the Behind The Bonds page on Moodys.com (some content only available to registered users or subscribers).   Related Research: Tariffs – Global: $3 trillion of trade at risk from tariffs on closest US trading partnersTrade – China: Electronic, machinery and equipment sectors more exposed to impact from US tariffsCorporates – North America: Tariffs are credit negative for a wide swath of sectors, although some would benefit  
Private Credit set for major growth and new investor types
2025/02/11
Moody’s first Private Credit Outlook predicts that this market will double by 2028 to more than $3 trillion of assets under management. Private credit should benefit from more volatile market conditions and from innovation which is attracting new kinds of customer but also generating new risks. Later in the episode, we look in depth at the surge in retail investor involvement in private credit. Guests: Marc Pinto, Managing Director, Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings; Christina Padgett, Associate Managing Director, Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings; and Alexandra Aspioti, Senior Analyst, Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings Host: Tania Hall, Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings To read more on this topic, visit Behind The Bonds page on Moodys.com (some content only available to registered users or subscribers). Related research: Private Credit — Global: 2025 Outlook – Primed for growth as LBOs revive, ABF opportunities accelerateFinancial Institutions – Europe: Revamped ELTIF legislation unlocks growth for the European private credit marketBusiness Development Companies – US: Q3 2024 Update: Rate cuts will further erode net investment income; rise in nonaccruals pausesFinancial Institutions – North America: Private credit ETFs will use public credit for liquidity, a potential performance challenge
Corporate outlooks for 2025 are now all stable as economic picture normalises
2024/12/10
The outlooks for corporates in North America, Latin America, China, Asia-Pacific and EMEA are now all stable. We discuss the drivers shaping those outlooks and the similarities and differences across regions. Then we’re taking a deeper dive into the improving credit fundamentals for global leveraged finance next year as interest rates decline and defaults ease. Guests: Paloma San Valentin, Managing Director - North America Corporate Finance , Moody’s Ratings and Jeanine Arnold, Senior Vice President – Senior Analyst – Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings Host: Jeff Pruzan, Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings To read more on this topic, visit Behind The Bonds page on Moodys.com (some content only available to registered users or subscribers). Related research: Leveraged Finance – Global: 2025 Outlook – Improving credit conditions will boost deal flow, but risks to persistNonfinancial Corporates – Latin America & Caribbean: 2025 Outlook – Stable on mixed growth, but operating environment implies hazardsNonfinancial Corporates – EMEA: 2025 Outlook - Stable on lower rates, moderate growth, but geopolitics weighNonfinancial Corporates – Asia-Pacific ex China (APAC): 2025 Outlook – Stable on growth, easing interest rates, despite geopolitical tensionsNonfinancial Corporates – China: 2025 Outlook – Stable amid stronger stimulus, but geopolitical risk has climbedNonfinancial Corporates – North America: 2025 Outlook - Stable as inflation wanes but stressed consumers, geopolitics add risk
Massive AI investment contributes to positive global IT sector outlook
2024/10/15
In the opening segment, we discuss how a host of factors including substantial AI investment underpin our positive outlook for the global diversified information technology sector over the next 12-18 months. Then at 10 minutes, we assess which types of technology companies stand to benefit from all of this AI investment more than others. Guests: Raj Joshi, Senior Vice President, Global Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings and Vincent Gusdorf, AMD - Digital Finance and AI Analytics, Moody’s Ratings. Host: Jeff Pruzan, Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings To read more on this topic, visit Behind The Bonds page on Moodys.com (some content only available to registered users or subscribers). Related Research: Diversified Information Technology – Global: Outlook positive as profits strengthen in steady macroeconomic environmentArtificial Intelligence – Global: Profits from AI remain elusive but some sectors hold more promise than others
Green transition spurs M&A in mining sector, while competition increases deal prospects among US telecoms
2024/09/17
M&A activity remains robust across corporate sectors, including pharmaceuticals, homebuilding, mining and telecommunications. In our opening segment, we focus in part on how the green transition is driving deals in the mining segment as companies look to control critical minerals used in renewable energy technologies. In our second segment (10:10), we delve into prospects, including M&A, for large US telecommunications and cable companies. Companies are increasingly battling for high-speed data customers, partly due to the boom in streaming video. Yet the market is saturated with little differentiating the services. Guests: Tobias Wagner, Vice President – Senior Credit Officer, Global Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings and Emile El Nems, Vice President – Senior Credit Officer, Global Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings Host: Tania Hall, Senior Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings To read more on these topics, visit Moodys.com (some content available only to registered users or subscribers). Related Research: Corporates – North America: IG companies are well-positioned for rising but less transformational M&ATelecommunications – US: Competition intensifies as telco, cable try to justify network costs in saturated market
Corporate credit quality in India, Indonesia remains robust despite sectoral differences
2024/09/02
India's large domestic market shields its companies from external shocks, whereas Indonesia's export-dependent commodity sector prompts government efforts to diversify growth. Guests: Rachel Chua, VP-Senior Analyst; Sweta Patodia, AVP-Analyst Host: Vittoria Zoli, Analyst, Credit Strategy & Guidance, Moody's Ratings Related Research: Nonfinancial Companies – India and Indonesia: Credit quality will remain robust, even as earnings trajectory divergesNonfinancial Companies – Southeast Asia Dollar bond issuance will regain momentum when US interest rates begin to fallNonfinancial Companies – India: Offshore funding indispensable despite improving domestic liquidity
Aerospace and defense outlook still positive but airplane manufacturers’ woes continue
2024/07/16
This month our analysts are discussing what’s driving our still positive outlook for the global aerospace and defense sector for the next 12-18 months. Defense budgets are up as a result of rising geopolitical tensions and we expect strong operating profit for these companies. But persistent supply chain issues are delaying the delivery of new planes from the largest manufacturers Boeing and Airbus, even as air travel demand soars.  Guests: Frederic Duranson, Vice President – Senior Analyst - Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Investors Service and Jonathan Root, Senior Vice President – Senior Analyst – Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings Service. Host: Tania Hall, Senior Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Investors Service.  To read more on this topic, visit Behind The Bonds page on Moodys.com (some content only available to registered users or subscribers). Related Research: Aerospace and Defense – Global: Outlook remains positive despite lingering post-pandemic problemsGeopolitical risk – Europe: Higher defence spending will strain budgets, but is credit positive for companiesBoeing Company (The): Acquisition of Spirit AeroSystems will be positive for Boeing’s operations over the long runSovereigns – Europe: Some EU sovereigns will face accumulating debt pressures and hard policy choicesAirbus SE: Revised 2024 earnings guidance is credit negative
Rapid growth of weight-loss drugs will influence multiple sectors in coming years
2024/06/18
The pharmaceutical market has exploded in recent years with the rise of new drugs to help treat obesity and diabetes. The shift marks a huge opportunity for the pharmaceutical sector, which is pursuing the diabetes and obesity markets with four blockbuster drugs today: Ozempic and Wegovy from Novo Nordisk, and Mounjaro and Zepbound from Eli Lilly. In the first segment Mike Levesque looks at credit implications for the pharmaceutical industry, whose weight-loss drugs will generate some $80 billion in annual sales by 2030. Then at 11:10 minutes, Linda Montag discusses how the rise of the weight-loss drug segment will affect the packaged food, restaurant and packaging sectors. Guests: Michael Levesque, Senior Vice President, Corporate Finance Group; Linda Montag, Senior Vice President, Corporate Finance Group.  Host: Jeff Pruzan, Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Investors Service. To read more on this topic, visit Moodys.com. (Some content available only to registered users or subscribers.) Cross-Sector – Global: Growth in obesity drugs will affect multiple industries but impact will take years
Global commodities under pressure as China’s growth engine slows
2024/05/21
The commodities sector isn’t looking rosy and that is largely due to the outsize influence of China, which is currently in the grip of an economic slowdown. These pressures come on top of geopolitical damage to trade and supply chains, and the energy transition which is increasing global appetite for some commodities and eroding it for others. Our analysts look in particular at the fortunes of steel and commodity chemicals – both of which are seeing plunging demand from China.  Later in the episode (at 12.49 mins) we also look more closely at gold. Investors are riding record highs for this very particular commodity, a traditional investment ‘safe haven’ whose idiosyncratic behaviour sometimes ignores the normal rules.  Guests: Hui Ting Sim, Associate Vice President – Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings; Mike Zhu, Vice President – Senior Analyst – Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings; Jamie Koutsoukis, Vice President – Senior Analyst – Corporate Finance Group, Moody’s Ratings Host: Jeff Pruzan, Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings To read more on this topic, visit the Macro Views page on Moodys.com (some content only available to registered users or subscribers). 
Global real estate prospects remain rocky
2024/04/16
The outlook for the global real estate market remains negative with the bumpy economy, tight financing conditions and the surge in remote work. In the US, we expect rental income growth for offices to remain poor overall and apartment income growth to moderate this year with supply up, mostly in parts of the Sunbelt. Globally, Japan is a bright spot with supply-demand dynamics in the commercial market relatively stable. In Europe, the commercial market remains at risk of further deterioration, but the UK is likely to recover quicker as asset prices have fallen at a faster pace. Guests: Lori Marks, Vice President - Senior Credit Officer, Global Corporate Finance Group and Ana Luz Silva, Vice President - Senior Analyst, Global Corporate Finance Group  Host: Tania Hall, Senior Vice President - Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings To read more on this topic, visit Moodys.com (Some content available only to registered users or subscribers.): Related Research: Real Estate – Global: Outlook remains negative as high funding costs persist and the economy slowsReal Estate – US: CRE fortunes vary by lender and property type, with office facing multiple risksHousing and Housing Finance – US: Homeowners with low rates stay put, keeping housing in a holding patternReal Estate – Europe: Credit quality still at risk despite improving sentiment; greater divergence likelyCommercial Real Estate – UK: Recovery set for second half of 2024, but pockets of distress will persist
Pace of electric vehicle sales hits several roadblocks
2024/03/19
In our opening segment, we discuss the slight slowdown in global market share growth for battery electric vehicles (BEVs) as some incentives to buy have ended, yet prices remain high. A scarcity of charging stations in Europe and the US also remains a deterrent for consumers. Our second segment, which starts at 9:40, focuses on the charging shortage and who will pay for expansion. Guests: Matthias Heck, Vice President - Senior Credit Officer, Global Corporate Finance Group and Rene Lipsch, Vice President - Senior Credit Officer, Global Corporate Finance Group Host: Jeff Pruzan, Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Ratings To read more on this topic, visit Moodys.com. (Some content available only to registered users or subscribers.) Related Research: Auto Manufacturing – Global: Vehicle volume growth to be muted after last year’s strong finishAutomotive Manufacturing – EU & US: Charging network build-out must speed up to support EU, US automakers’ EV plansAutomotive Manufacturing – Global: Compliance risks in emission and safety regulations are becoming more evidentFuel Retailers – Global: Electrification will erode market dominance, investment to curb cash flow
Artificial intelligence has potential to transform many types of companies
2024/02/20
Artificial Intelligence or AI is predicted to have a profound impact on many areas of business. In this episode of Behind the Bonds we assess where AI innovation is already showing significant potential. Which industries can expect to see improved productivity and what are the potential timelines for any positive impact on credit quality? We also discuss the disruptive potential of these new technologies and the risks to jobs. Later in the episode our colleagues look in more depth at the media, where AI’s potential is presenting opportunities and generating both opposition and collaboration from content creators. Guests: Francesco Bozzano, Vice President – Senior Analyst, Global Corporate Finance Group and Agustin Alberti, Vice President – Senior Analyst, Global Corporate Finance Group. Host: Tania Hall, Senior Vice President – Senior Research Writer, Moody’s Investors Service.   To read more on this topic, visit Moodys.com. (Some content available only to registered users or subscribers.) Related Research: Nonfinancial corporates – Global: Market leaders in data-rich sectors will gain most from AI advancesDigital Transformation – Global: 2024 AI Outlook – Swift progress likely but rapid roll-out will bring risksMedia & Publishing – Cross Region: GenAI should benefit media companies, mainly by boosting productivity

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