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What is the Christian response and responsibility to LGBTQ+ people? In today's divisive landscape, host Brian Nietzel explores this vital question with key individuals, churches, and organizations moving toward a compassionate, inclusive posture that can bring healing to a community historically wounded by religion. Whether conservative or progressive in your beliefs, Brian elevates the conversation, helping us find our Christian common ground in loving our LGBTQ+ neighbors. Join the movement at makingthingsright.org

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S2E7 Sides ABXY and Not Taking Sides

2025/11/29

This episode explores sides A,B,X, and Y, which represent the diverse theological positions on same-sex relationships. Brian is joined by Justin Lee and Gregory Coles, two thought-leaders representing differing theological positions, yet modeling unity and collaboration in a manner desperately needed today.

S2E6 Exodus Shutdown, 10 Years Later

2025/11/29

This episode features emotional and difficult subject matter, as we explore the history and impact of ex-gay ideology and conversion therapy. Brian is joined by Alan Chambers (past president of Exodus International) and licensed therapist Candice Czubernat, who bring professional and personal expertise with many in the LGBTQ+ community who have experienced harm from conversion therapy.

S2E5 The Christian Response to Transgender People, Part 2

2025/11/29

Brian is joined by Mark Wingfield, executive director and publisher of Baptist News Global. Years ago Mark's post "7 Things I'm Learning About Transgender Persons" went immediately viral with over 1 million views, launching Mark into becoming an influential advocate and pastor to the transgender community.

S2E4 The Christian Response to Transgender People, Part 1

2025/11/29

Learning first-hand of transgender real-lived experiences can be transformative, and perhaps the only way to elevate the public discourse from "issues" to being about people. Brian is joined by Grace Thomas and Lucas Hall, two Christian pioneers in the Trans community who share their harrowing, beautiful journeys.

S2E3 God & The Gay Christian, 10 Years Later

2025/11/29

This episode features an informative and fascinating discussion with Matthew Vines, the author of the best-seller God & The Gay Christian. Matthew is a true pioneer who brings a sound biblical case for same-sex relationships. A decade after this game-changing book's release, it's impact along with his organization The Reformation Project remain as relevant as ever.

S2E2 1946 The Movie, Behind the Scenes

2025/11/29

What if the word homosexual was never meant to be in the Bible? This episode features a striking conversation with the director and one of the lead researches of the multi-award winning documentary 1946: The Movie. Brian is joined by film producer Rocky Roggio and author & speaker Kathy Baldock.

S2E1 The Long Game

2025/11/29

Welcome to Making Things Right Season 2! This episode features a live recording from the national conference of Q Christian Fellowship, a key organization that serves the full diversity of the LGBTQ+ community and their allies. Brian is joined by Brit Barron, Grace Thomas, Bill White, and Danny Cortez, all impactful leaders in "The Long Game" of LGBTQ+ reform in the Christian Church.

Trailer: Making Things Right, The Podcast

2021/10/20

Season One of the Making Things Right podcast brings Brian's white paper on Christian-LGBTQ matters to life through real conversations. In this series, you’ll hear collaborative conversations where friends and thought-leaders representing varied perspectives gather with a common purpose: to share and listen, to find new empathy, and to serve the LGBTQ+ community. These conversations will provide insights and ideas to help you find your place at the table and your unique role in making things right. makingthingsright.org

S1E1 What Matters Most

2021/10/20

Making Things Right with the LGBTQ+ Community. The kick-off episode! B.T. Harman joins Brian to introduce and discuss the key concepts of "Making Things Right" and set the stage for this podcast series. Guest: B.T. Harman

S1E2 Three Chapters

2021/10/20

Brian's Story. A deeply personal episode where Brian's 30-year friend Sara interviews him on the chapters of his life and the evolution of his faith, with Sara's observations as she walked alongside. Guest: Sara Renner

S1E3 Knowing Our Stories

2021/10/20

Letting LGBTQ+ Experiences Impact You. The first step in "making things right" is empathy. This episode features statistics and stories of LGBTQ+ experiences, including three brave friends sharing both hurts and healing with church and family. Guests: Caleb Hudson, Jana Warner, Matt Nightingale

S1E4 Crossroads

2021/10/20

Navigating Turning Points in Life and Faith. This episode features two stories of Christian parents whose kids came out as LGBTQ+, and their journeys to reconciling their deep love for their kids with their faith. Guests: Greg & Lynn McDonald, Staci Frenes

S1E5 The Quieter Middle

2021/10/20

An Invitation To Re-examine. Author and theologian Dr. David Gushee joins Brian in a discussion for those wanting to examine what they believe. Dr. Gushee brings his personal and theological journey to help us dig in on what the Bible and Christian history are calling us to. Guest: Dr. David Gushee

S1E6 One Table, Part 1

2021/10/20

Different Perspectives With a Common Cause. Thought-leaders representing both Christian & LGBTQ+ communities join Brian to solution together. This episode is about moving out of the conversation into action and practical application, and addresses real hesitations and hurdles to that. Guests: Jennifer Knapp, Keith Malon Wilson, Debbie Causey, Ory Cook

S1E7 One Table, Part 2

2021/10/20

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Laura-Scott 2022/03/25

Humble. Nuanced. Thoughtful.

“Make the first move. Make the time to make a personal connection with someone you don’t necessarily understand. And just hear them out.” “I really w...

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nn21334 2025/06/02

This podcast is dead wrong.

We should NOT affirm sinners. Call them to repentance and to turn from their wicked ways and to faith in Jesus.

★☆☆☆☆

Jay the Mountain Man 2023/08/28

Twisted and disordered.

Listening to “gay” Christians (which don’t exist) talk about this subject as though it is acceptable to God, to satisfy their itching ears. They leav...

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