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Paul Klee loved working in a wide variety of styles at once in his paintings: abstract, representational, runic or symbolic. His oeuvre literally contains multitudes. I recently saw a show of his late works in New York at the Jewish Museum and was amazed at how many mediums and approaches to painting were on display. This episode honors him and his radical reconsideration of Painting with a side detour on Magritte. Come along for a wild ride! Klee works mentioned: Around the Fish 1926, Suffering Fruit 1934, Struck from the List 1933, This Star Teaches Bending 1940, Angel, Still Female 1939, Drinking Companion 1931 Magritte works mentioned: Le Stropiat (version 1 and 2-both 1948), Jean-Marie 1948, A Stroke of Luck 1948, Seasickness 1948, The Famine 1948, The Pictorial Content 1948 Host note: “The Famine” cheekily referenced the characters in a popular French comic series of the day called Adventures of the Pieds Nickelés (nickel plated feet)* created by Louis Forton and told the story of 3 bumbling and good for nothing criminals who constantly fail at their mission. *a French term for lazy slackers See more: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Pieds_Nickel%C3%A9s Artists mentioned: Paul Klee, Hilma af Klint, Agnes Martin, Giorgio Morandi, Hannah Wilke, René Magritte, Pablo Picasso, Emil Nolde, Wassily Kandinsky, Henri Rousseau, Ludwig Meidner, Richard Seewald, Oskar Kokoschka, Henri Matisse, Giorgio de Chirico, Gerhard Richter, Pierre-Auguste Renoir, André Breton, Diego Velázquez (Las Meninas 1656) Writers mentioned: Ralph Waldo Emerson, Sarah Gottesman, Charles W. Haxthausen, Wilhelm Hausenstein, Louis Scutenaire, George Kubler, Michael Foucault Links: Paul Klee: Other Possible Worlds exhibit at the Jewish Museum 2026 https://thejewishmuseum.org/exhibitions/paul-klee-other-possible-worlds/ Paul Klee’s Bauhaus Assignments: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-how-to-be-an-artist-according-to-paul-klee Picasso’s Return to Order Period: https://theculturalcritic.com/picassos-conflict-how-the-great-war-caused-him-to-radically-change-his-style/ Magritte's Vache Period: https://www.artsy.net/article/artsy-editorial-9-times-historys-greatest-artists-made-bad-artworks https://www.tate.org.uk/tate-etc/issue-11-autumn-2007/ill-find-way-slip-great-big-incongruity-time-time https://www.moma.org/artists/3692-rene-magritte Hannah Wilke's Flower Series: https://www.marcselwynfineart.com/exhibitions/hannah-wilke2#tab:thumbnails;tab-1:slideshow Foucault's essay "The Order of Things" (Les Mots et les Choses) on Velázquez and Klee: https://monoskop.org/images/a/a2/Foucault_Michel_The_Order_of_Things_1994.pdf More on Charles W. "Mark" Haxthausen's paper: Paul Klee, Wilhelm Hausenstein, and the “Problem of Style” (2014) Watch: https://www.ias.edu/ideas/2014/haxthausen-klee-video Read: https://www.academia.edu/6541479/Paul_Klee_Wilhelm_Hausenstein_and_the_Problem_of_Style_publication_ Paul Klee books: Paul Klee: Other Possible Worlds by Mason Klein, Senior Curator at The Jewish Museum Paul Klee: Life and Work by Michael Baumgartner, Christine Hopfengart, Fabienne Eggelhöfer, Osama Okuda Amy's Solo exhibition in Los Angeles (Atwater Village) "The Weight of Colors" at The Middle Room 3229 Glendale Blvd, Los Angeles, CA Oct 24-Nov 22, 2026 Reception, Sat Oct 24 6-8 and Artist Talk, Sun Oct 25 1-3 Come on out, y'all! https://www.themiddleroomgallery.com/exhibitions Thank you, Peps Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

We're talking collage! Jennifer Coates joins me in a quest to get to the heart of why collage is such a powerful generator in the studio. We also take a look at 2 artists who used collage in different ways: Lee Krasner and Jess. Krasner used collage at certain key moments to bridge bodies of work, and Jess used collage as his main ecstatic medium spanning more than 4 decades of his output. As Krasner teaches us: "Knife or scissors...no tear! " Works by Lee Krasner mentioned: Seated Figure 1938-9; Milkweed, Stretched Yellow, Desert Moon, Bird Talk, Blue Level (all 1955); Imperfect Indicative 1976 (Visit Kasmin Gallery for images) Works by Jess mentioned: Blasted Beauty 1954, The Translations series, Paste-Ups series, Assemblies series, Necrofacts series, Salvages series, Narkissos series 1976-1991, The Unentitled Graces 1978, Dyslecstasy 1991 (See all of his works at https://jesscollins.org/) Glue Tawk™: Jennifer prefers Matte Medium and Amy agrees but suggests using UHU stick for thin papers Links to watch/listen: ⁠James Kalm Report⁠ on the Outsider Art Fair ⁠Recording Artists: Radical Women Podcast:⁠ "Deal With It" on Lee Krasner ⁠Inside New York's Art World ⁠1978 interview by Barbara Lee Diamondstein Spielvogel with Lee Krasner Proto-collage and assemblage objects & installations: Opificio delle Pietre Dure - Florence, Limoges Casket/Reliquary 13th c, Musée des Beaux-Arts de Lille, Capuchin Crypt under Santa Maria della Concezione dei Cappuccini, Rome, Shell Grotto, Margate, Kent, Paper lace valentines of the Victorian era, Wishing Trees of Cornwall Artists mentioned: Hannah Hoch, Lee Krasner, Jess, Artists of the DADA movement, Georges Braque, Pablo Picasso, Wangechi Mutu, Mark Bradford, Chris Martin, Thomas Lanigan-Schmidt, Henri Matisse, Hans Hoffman, Piet Mondrian, Illuminators of the Book of Kells, Anne Ryan, Paul Klee, Amy Sillman, Lari Pittman, Marcel Duchamp, Clyfford Still, Hieronymus Bosch, Joseph Cornell, Andrea Burgay, Max-o-matic, Richard Diebenkorn, Robert Motherwell, Henri Matisse, Max Ernst, Kurt Schwitters, Grete Stern Writers mentioned: Art Reporter and Critic: Stuart Preston; Poets: Robert Duncan and John Ashbery; Gail Levin; Charles Baudelaire; Edgar Allen Poe Our Book Nook (incl Collage Resources): Kolaj Magazine and online collage artist directory The Weird Show online survey of contemporary collage Cut Me Up Magazine "Waste Not Want Not: An Inquiry into What Women Saved and Assembled—FEMMAGE" Essay by Miriam Schapiro and Melissa Meyer Lee Krasner: A Biography by Gail Levin Jess: To and From the Printed Page by Jess Fragmentary Forms: A New History of Collage by Freya Gowrley Collage by Women: 50 Essential Contemporary Artists by Rebeka Elizegi and Blanca Ortiga Cutting Edges: Contemporary Collage published by Gestalten Collage: Assembling Contemporary Art edited by Anthony Downey Robert Motherwell: Early Collages by Robert Motherwell, Susan Davidson, Megan Fontanella, Brandon Taylor, Jeffrey Warda Find my guest, Jennifer Coates, online: See her recent exhibition "Aniline Sky" at 1053 Gallery Her instagram: @jennifercoates666 Thank you, Jennifer! Thank you, Peps Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Louise Bourgeois Part 2! Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back in her Book Talks seat to help me dissect a new delicious art book: Drawings & Observations by Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder. Bourgeois referred to these sketches as her "thought feathers" and revealed her thinking behind the reproduced works in recordings transcribed by curator Lawrence Rinder. It was so cool to get these direct insights into her imagery. This episode is a sequel to the recording right before this one (about our trip to view Louise Bourgeois' NYC home). Check out Part 1 if you missed it! The Book/Monograph: Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, by Louise Bourgeois with Lawrence Rinder, pub 1995 The Exhibition that the monograph accompanied: "Louise Bourgeois: Drawings" University of California, Berkeley's University Art Museum (UAM) from January 24 to March 24, 1996 Works mentioned: View all here: https://www.amytalluto.com/lbpod Page 20 "Self Portrait" 1938 Pencil on paper Page 26-7 "Untitled" 1940 Page 38 "Le Rebus" 1943 Page 44-5 "Femme Maison" 1947 ink on paper Page 68-9 "Untitled" 1949 red ink and charcoal on paper Page 76-7 "Untitled" 1947 crayon, pen & ink and pencil Page 104-5 "Untitled" 1950 charcoal Page 114-5 "Untitled" 1950 ink on paper Page 126-7 "Untitled" 1967 ink and gouache on paper Page 156-7 "Untitled" 1988 Watercolor and Pencil on paper Artists mentioned: Jen Schwarting, Jean Michel Basquiat, Paul Klee, Joan Miro, Robert Gober, Nina Bovasso, Vicki Sher, Jack Whitten, Meret Oppenheim, Peter Halley Other books mentioned: Peter Halley: Recent Essays 1990-1996 Edgewise Press, Inside the Studio: Two Decades of Talks with Artists in New York by Independent Curators International, New York, Jack Whitten: Notes from the Woodshed Hauser & Wirth Thank you to my guest Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find her online at: ⁠MandolynWilsonRosen.com⁠ and IG ⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠ Thank you, Peps Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen join me this episode to unpack our experience visiting renowned artist, Louise Bourgeois' home in NYC. We entered her historic brownstone and were immediately transported to another world and time. Louise lived a full life but was very much an artistic homebody. She made her home her studio in every sense of the word, stuffing each room full of materials to be on hand whenever inspiration struck. She found a way to balance family life with making her work and rode out long career lulls with grace and determination. Come along with us as we discuss our peek inside her sanctuary. More about Louise Bourgeois: https://www.moma.org/artists/710-louise-bourgeois https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/gallery/2013/oct/18/bourgeois https://hicarquitectura.com/2022/12/louise-bourgeoise-femme-maison/ Great film about Louise Bourgeois: Louise Bourgeois: The Spider, the Mistress, and the Tangerine 2008 Bourgeois works mentioned: "Arched Figure" 1993, "Maman" 1999 Bourgeois exhibitions mentioned: The Women at Peggy Guggenheim's Art of This Century gallery NYC 1945, Eccentric Abstraction, curated by Lucy Lippard at The Fischbach Gallery NYC 1966 Artists / Writers mentioned: Joyce Kosloff, Faith Ringgold, Sylvia Sleigh, Lucy Lippard, Linda Nochlin, Joan Snyder, Nancy Spero, Howardena Pindell, Delacroix, Matisse, Suzanne Valadon Beka mentioned Felix Harlan, master printmaker and co-founder of Harlan & Weaver, a fine art print publishing studio who made so many Bourgeois prints. 1973 Feminists' letter to William Rubin at MoMA: https://brooklynrail.org/2017/11/verbatim/Louise-Bourgeois-Breaking-the-Mold/ Further reading: Louise Bourgeois: Drawings and Observations, Ed. Lawrence Rinder; Runaway Girl: The Artist Louise Bourgeois , a YA book by Jan Greenberg (with Sandra Jordan); "New York Real Estate and the Ruin of American Art" by Josh Kline / October Thank you to my guests, Beka Goedde and Mandolyn Wilson Rosen! Find them online at: BekaGoedde.com and @bekagoedde MandolynWilsonRosen.com and @mandolyn_rosen Thank you to the wonderful guides and archivists at the Louise Bourgeois home who made this episode possible. Thank you, Peps Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

In this new Book Talks episode, Mandolyn Wilson Rosen is back to help me review a new art book: Jack Whitten: Notes From the Woodshed, Edited by Katy Siegel for Hauser & Wirth. Equal parts profound, strident and hilarious, Jack Whitten's (1939-2018) 50 year studio log packs a wallop. And it's meaty at 581 pages, so we had lots to discuss! Stick around to hear some sage advice, inspiring tales of studio experimentation and even some positive affirmations from this incredible painter and sculptor. Links to shows, videos, articles mentioned:⁠" Jack Whitten: The Messenger" Exhibition at MOMA 2025⁠ ⁠"Jack Whitten: Ready-nows" Two Coats of Paint Blog⁠ ⁠⁠Xerox PARC Artist-in-Residence (PAIR) program⁠⁠ ⁠Jack Whitten – ‘The Political is in the Work’ by TateShots⁠ ⁠Jack Whitten: An Artist's Life | Art21 "Extended Play"⁠ ⁠Uncovering Jack Whitten’s mysterious abstractions | HOW TO SEE (MOMA)⁠ Artists mentioned: Willlem DeKooning, Robert Blackburn, Romare Bearden, Jacob Lawrence, Norman Lewis, Barnett Newman, Franz Kline, Gerhard Richter, Richard Serra, Ron Gorchov, Sol Lewitt, Frank Stella, Caravaggio, Berrisford Boothe, Kerry Downey, Amy Sillman, Jake Berthot Whitten works mentioned: "The Messenger: For Art Blakey," "Homecoming: For Miles," "Black Monolith 2: Homage to Ralph Ellison, The Invisible Man," "Head IV Lynching," Homage to Malcolm," "King's Wish (Martin Luther's Dream)," "King's Garden," The Slab Paintings, "Asa's Palace," Gray Paintings, Greek Alphabet Paintings, "Dead Reckoning I," "9-11-01," "Apps for Obama," "Nine Fire CDS: For the Fire Spitter (Jane Cortez)," "Zeitgeist Traps (For Michael Goldberg)," "Quantum Wall VIII for Arshile Gorky (My First Love in Painting)," "Crystal Palace: For Jeanne Siegel" Philosophers Jack loved: Immanuel Kant, Martin Heidegger, Edmund Husserl, Taha Hussein (Egyptian, Arab Renaissance), Friedrich Nietzsche, Slavoj Žižek Other artist logs: Day Book by Anne Truitt The Andy Warhol Diaries Edited by Pat Hackett Philip Guston: Collected Writings, Lectures and Conversations Edited by Clark Coolidge Agnes Martin: Painting, Writings, Remembrances Edited by Arne Glimcher Where to get the book: Hauser & Wirth , Abe Books, Thrift Books, Ebay, Amazon Please find Mandolyn Wilson Rosen online here: ⁠⁠mandolynwilsonrosen.com⁠⁠ and IG ⁠⁠@mandolyn_rosen⁠⁠ Thank you, Mandy! Thank you, Peps Listeners! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Artist, Judy Glantzman, is back on the pod this week to discuss her friend and incredible artist, Dawn Clements (1958-2018). Come along with me as I hear more about this brave, innovative artist who celebrated the idea of the ungovernable doodle. Her ink and gouache drawings span walls and rooms, yet she often made them folded up on trains and while lying in bed. It was wonderful to hear Judy's recollections of this artist I have long-admired. Exhibitions mentioned: James Barron Art "Dawn Clements: Paper Flowers" 2025 Pierogi "Dawn Clements at the Boiler" 2010 MANA Contemporary, Jersey City, NJ "Dawn Clements, Living Large: A Survey, " 2021 Bates College Museum of Art, Lewiston, ME "Back and Forth" Dawn Clements and Marc Leuthold 2008 Museum of Modern Art "High and Low: Modern Art and Popular Culture" 1990-91 ...and keep an eye out for Dawn's upcoming show at the RISD Museum! Dawn Clements works discussed: "Mrs. Jessica Drummond's Bedroom (My Reputation, 1946)" 2010, "Kitchen and Bathroom" 2003, "Tabletop (Black and White)" 2010, "The Boiler" 2010, "Triptych (Yaddo)" 2017, "Maele Luster" 2011, "Grass" 2017, "Oval" 1995-2000, Collaboration with Marc Leuthold 2008 PLUS find more images at Pierogi Residencies mentioned: Sint Trudo Abdij (Maele, Belgium), MacDowell, Yaddo, Civitella Ranieri Foundation Other artists mentioned: Janet Fish, Fra Angelico ("Noli me tangere", 1440–42. Fresco from the convent of San Marco, Florence), Jane Freilicher, Catherine Murphy, Morandi, David Wojnarowicz, Vija Celmins, George Condo, Gina Ruggeri, Charles Burchfield, Charles Garabedian, Mary Temple Book mentioned: "Looking at the Overlooked" by Norman Bryson Links to online talks: Brooklyn Rail Panel: "Living Large: Dawn Clements" Vermont Studio Center Lecture Dawn's favorite art materials: PAPER • Fabriano Accademia roll paper, 80-lb., and Strathmore 400 drawing roll paper, 100-lb. INKS AND PENCILS • Sumi ink (both black and vermilion)• ballpoint pen (Bic Crystal or PaperMate medium point black)• No. 2 pencils WATERCOLOR • Sennelier GOUACHE: • Winsor & Newton BRUSHES • soft round watercolor ----- Thank you to my guest, Judy Glantzman! Don't miss her upcoming solo show: "Playing with Dolls " Judy Glantzman at PPOW Gallery Feb 6 - March 14, 2026 390 Broadway, 2nd Floor (2nd location) New York, NY 10013 Also, find Judy on IG: @judyglantzman Thank you for listening! ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

We're back for Part 2! Artist, Jennifer Coates joins me again to discuss 2 modern-day women mystic artists: Cornish Visionary, Ithell Colquhoun and Desert Transcendentalist, Agnes Pelton. Ithell Colquhoun links and mentions: "Papers of Ithell Colquhoun (1906-1988)" archive at Tate Modern The Living Stones: Cornwall book by Ithell Colquhoun "The Mantic Stain" 1949 essay by Ithell Colquhoun "Dance of the Nine Opals" 1942 painting by Ithell Colquhoun "Scylla" 1938 painting by Ithell Colquhoun "Alcove" 1946 painting by Ithell Colquhoun Elliott Green, artist Ithell Colquhoun: Between Worlds ed Katy Norris "Taro of Color": Ithell Colquhoun's Tarot Deck 1977 Agnes Pelton links and mentions: Transcendental Painting Group, incl Raymond Johnson Hilma Af Klint Helena Blavatsky & Theosophy Alchemy 1937-9 Mother of Silence 1933 Photo of Agnes Pelton in Cathedral City 1932 Mystical Book Nook ⁠The Living Stones: Cornwall⁠ book by Ithell Colquhoun Ithell Colquhoun: Between Worlds⁠ ed Katy Norris Practical Mysticism by Evelyn Underhill On Mysticism by Simon Critchley Holy Feast and Holy Fast: The Religious Significance of Food to Medieval Women by Caroline Walker Bynum Ithell Colquhoun: Genius of The Fern Loved Gully by Amy Hale Weird Studies Podcast: Amy Hale episode Medieval Women: the Curators' Lunchtime Lecture on You Tube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUgweMmuhyI Medieval Women: Voices and Visions (British Library) ed Julian Harrison & Eleanor Jackson  Agnes Pelton: Desert Transcendentalist (Phoenix Art Museum) ed Gilbert Vicario The Spiritual in Art: Abstract Painting from 1890 to 1985 ed Maurice Tuchman Thanks so much to my guest cohost, Jennifer Coates! Find her online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to you for listening! ~~~ Visit Glögg Glǒgg, a pop up art faire, Dec 12-14, 2025 in Woodstock NY! More info: ⁠https://gloggglogg.my.canva.site/⁠ or on IG at ⁠@glogg_glogg⁠ ~~~ All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

In this episode, Jennifer Coates returns to help me explore the spookily wonderful topic of Women Mystics and their connection to art and artists. In Part 1, we cover mystics from the Pythia of Ancient Greece to ecstatic visionaries like Hildegard von Bingen of the late Medieval era. P.S.: Keep an eye out for Part 2 where we dip into our fave 20th-century mystical artists. Ancient Mystics mentioned: The Pythia, priestesses of Apollo and the women behind the Oracle at Delphi (Greek) and the process of Dream Incubation by the Dream Oracles (Greek) Pythia/Oracle of Delphi deep dive (thanks, Gary!): 1. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/y8798eap⁠ 2. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/4vxkcsnu⁠ 3. ⁠https://tinyurl.com/mtz3rn24 Medieval Mystics mentioned: Joan of Arc, Christine Carpenter (Anchoress), Julian of Norwich (Anchoress), Margery Kempe, Birgitta of Sweden, Teresa of Avila, Hildegard of Bingen and her artworks "Scivias 2.1: The Redeemer," "Scivias 1.6: The Choirs of Angels," "Book of Divine Works, Part 2, Vision 1: The Parts of the Earth: Living, Dying, and Purgatory" 1150-1230 and song "O Viridissima Virga" /“O branch of freshest green” Medieval Illuminator mentioned: Sibylla von Bondorf and her painting, "St Clare and a Group of Nuns Mourning St Francis of Assisi" 1478 Films mentioned: "Anchoress" 1993, "Vision: From the Life of Hildegard von Bingen" 2009 starring Barbara Sukowa, dir by Margarethe von Trotta Book mentioned: "Medieval Women: Voices & Visions," ed by Eleanor Jackson and Julian Harrison Potpourri: Jennifer's morbidanatomy.org class "Sensing the Supernatural Dead" taught by Jamie L. Brummitt Thanks so much to my guest cohost, Jennifer Coates! Find her online: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠⁠ Thanks to you for listening! ~~~ Visit Glögg Glǒgg, a pop up art faire, Dec 12-14 in Woodstock NY! More info: https://gloggglogg.my.canva.site/ or on IG at @glogg_glogg ~~~ All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Artists, Jennifer Coates, David Humphrey and Catherine Haggarty and are back for Part 3 of our series on Drawing. This time we switched things up and each artist brought both an artwork from art history and a related work of their own to discuss. Get ready to hear some vivid "ekphrasis" on our drawing picks (new vocab word unlocked-thanks, David!). Jennifer brought “The Castle with the Angel” 1863 by Victor Hugo and her own mixed media on yupo drawing “Heads in the Brambles” 2025 David brought Odilon Redon's "Self Portrait" 1880 and his own painted drawing "Before the Couch” 2023 Catherine brought Catherine Murphy's “Rose's Coloring Book” 2011 and her own wax crayon work "Bus Drawing" 2024 Amy brought Paul Klee's "Ugly Angel" 1939 and her own graphite drawing "Reversal (Ingres)" 2024 Other artworks mentioned: The Sketchbooks of John Constable, Eugene Delacroix and JMW Turner, Catherine Murphy "In the Grass" 2011, Kerry James Marshall "Untitled" 2009, Paul Klee "Untitled (Last Still Life)" 1940, "Still Ugly Angel" 1940, "Vigilant Angel" 1939, "Bell Angel" 1939, "Doubting Angel" 1939, "Angel in a Crisis II" 1939 , "Mis- Angel " 1939, "Angelus Novus" 1920, "Angel of Care on a Steep Road" 1931 Books mentioned: "Hunchback of Notre Dame" and "Les Miserables" by Victor Hugo, "The Angels of Paul Klee" by Boris Friedewald, "Exploring Masterpieces : a Fact-Filled Coloring Book" 1990 Artists mentioned: Victor Hugo, Odilon Redon, Catherine Murphy, Paul Klee, John Constable, Eugene Delacroix, JMW Turner, Kerry James Marshall, Josephine Halvorson, Jasper Johns (his Mind/Mirror retrospective at Whitney Museum), Judy Glantzman, Franz Marc, Jean Auguste Dominique Ingres, Jane Fine, James Esber, Erica Svec, Zachary Wollard More about the speakers: Jennifer Coates: ⁠⁠⁠web⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠IG⁠⁠⁠ David Humprhrey: ⁠⁠web⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠IG⁠⁠ Catherine Haggarty: ⁠⁠web⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠IG⁠ Amy Talluto: web and IG Upcoming exhibitions: Jennifer and David have work at 1Gap Gallery in "2>1" Curated by Michael Holden thru Jan 5, 2026 (Brooklyn) Amy has work in: "Eyes in the Sky" (solo) at theNextWaveGallery at SHOWROOM at Guerra Paint & Pigments curated by Nicole Castaldo thru Oct 31, 2025 (Maspeth-Queens) "Often I am Permitted to Return to a Meadow" at Active Space curated by Patrick Bower and Robert Zurer of Immaterial Projects Nov 7 - Nov 22, 2025 (Bushwick-Brooklyn) "A Gnawing Thought " at Utopia Gallery curated by Mandolyn Wilson Rosen Dec 6 -Jan 24, 2026 (Kingston, NY) "Relic" at Platform Project Space curated by Alyssa Fanning, Michael Lee and Patrick Neal Jan 30-Feb 5, 2026 (Dumbo-Brooklyn) Congrats to Catherine and Andrew Prayzner on their beautiful baby girl, Juliette Margaret! Thank you for listening! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks Website: ⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy's website: ⁠⁠https://www.amytalluto.com/⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

This is an episode about how acting on dumb ideas in the studio can be just the thing to get you out of artist's block or help you make a big change. Get ready for some choice bon mots from the likes of Weird Al Yankovic, Laurie Anderson, William Kentridge and others on the sage subject of being open to studio stupidity. Mentions: Weird Al Yankovic, Laurie Anderson, William Kentridge, Jack Whitten, Epictetus, Susan Sontag, Mister T, Twyla Tharp Writings mentioned: https://brooklynrail.org/2022/06/art/Laurie-Anderson-with-Paul-D-Miller/ https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/06/magazine/laurie-anderson.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/17/podcasts/the-daily/laurie-anderson.html https://screencrush.com/weird-al-yankovic-interview/ https://www.theparisreview.org/blog/2014/08/13/his-own-wavelength/ The Creative Habit: Learn It and Use It for Life by Twyla Tharp https://shop.hauserwirth.com/products/jack-whitten-notes-from-the-woodshed-updated-edition?_pos=1&_psq=notes+from+&_ss=e&_v=1.0 Thanks for listening! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

*Disclaimer: This episode is meant to be funny and Amy would love to attend any of the aforementioned residencies. Please accept her if you find yourself on a panel. End disclaimer.* Just got rejected from an artists' residency? Well, this is the mini-episode for you because I am going to let you in on a little technique I use to feel better. There's a curse word abundantly used throughout, so listen far away from small ears, Dear Listener! (Unless the small ears are pets-pets don't have language centers in their brains so it's safe.) I was a bit harsh on St Martin in the ep, and he did do a bit more than I gave him credit for: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_de_Porres ... but he's still a deep cut. Did I tell you that my confirmation name was "Melania"? Didn't age well! Thank you! All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

This is a little episode about how I think a one-of-a-kind whale is kind of like the 16th -17th century Mannerist artist El Greco, and also like us. It sounds a little far fetched but admit it, you like me when I’m weird, you weirdo’s El Greco: Artworks mentioned: “The Vision of St John” 1608-14 and "View of Toledo" 1599-1600 (El Greco), “Les Desmoiselles D’Avignon" 1907 (Picasso), "Rocks at Fontainbleu" 1890's (Cézanne) Artists mentioned: Vincent Van Gogh, Paul Cézanne, Hilma Af Klint, Pablo Picasso, Eugène De la Croix, Salvador Dali, Michelangelo, Caravaggio, Diego Velázquez, Titian, Tintoretto, Ignacio Zuloaga Writers mentioned: Emily Dickinson, Franz Kafka, Roger Fry Learn more about El Greco's figurine models with a fascinating lecture by Xavier Bray for the Frick Collection: https://youtu.be/_8xYkflNbU0?si=eCIL_P-tFdtPbDmOThe Whale: Watch the documentary: https://www.kanopy.com/en/product/loneliest-whale?frontend=kui Articles: https://www.forbes.com/sites/scotttravers/2025/02/01/the-52-hertz-whale-is-the-loneliest-animal-in-the-world-heres-what-we-know/ https://www.iflscience.com/fact-check-has-the-world-s-loneliest-whale-finally-found-a-friend-65797 https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/jul/13 https://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode/inside-the-nail-biting-quest-to-find-the-loneliest-whale/ Thanks for listening! Greek music "Greek Bouzouki Sentimental 13" by Omegamusic / Marios Georgiades / Nicosia, Cyprus Whale songs courtesy of PMEL Pacific Marine Environmental Laboratory All other music and sound effects by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

::CW: during the Kathe Kollwitz section, we discuss a print dealing with sexual assault:: Jennifer and I are back with our bushel baskets of researched artists of the past to soothe our shattered nerves. Tune in to hear about 6 artists that made exceptional work under strained circumstances: Käthe Kollwitz, John of Arderne - medieval surgeon and margin doodler, Gustav Metzger, William Gropper, David Hammons and Joan Miró. Käthe Kollwitz notes: "Käthe Kollwitz" exhibtion at MOMA May-June 2024 Emile Zola's novel "Germinal" 1885 "Scene from 'Germinal" 1893 "A Weavers' Revolt" series 1893-1897 Gerhart Hauptmann's play "The Weavers" 1892 "The Mothers" 1918 "Never Again" 1924 "R-ped" 1907 Francisco de Goya's "Disasters of War" series Otto Dix "Der Krieg" 1924 John of Arderne notes: Medical Treatises England: c.1376, re-copied and 1475-1500Sp Coll MS Hunter 251 (U.4.9) (see more here and here) Misericord seatrest carvings in English medieval churches Gustave Metzger notes: The Viennese Actionists Artist, David Bomberg "Auto-destructive Art" 1961 London performance "Flailing Trees" 2009 "Remember Nature" 2015 "Table" c.1957-8 The Fluxus movement Documentary "Lifeline: Clyfford Still" William Gropper notes: "America: It's Folklore" 1946 Francisco de Goya's "Los Caprichos" series 1798 French political artist, Honoré Daumier "Blacklist" and "Environment" from Gropper's Capriccios series 1953–57 David Hammons notes: "The Melt Goes on Forever: The Art & Times of David Hammons" Documentary 2022 Artist, Charles White Artist, Betye Saar "Bliz-aard Ball Sale" Performance New York, NY 1983 "Body Prints" 1968–1979 "Hair and Wire, Venice Beach" 1977 "Untitled" circa 1980s "Higher Goals" 1983; 1986 "Untitled (Night Train)" 1989 Artist, Rachel Whiteread Joan Miró notes: Ballet Russes Artist, Henri Matisse "Mori el Merma" (Death to Merma) Theatrical collaboration with the Barcelona puppet troupe, La Claca, headed by Joan Baixas 1978 (watch here) "Ubu Roi" by Alfred Jarry 1896 Artist, Meg Lipke Current studio daemons: olm, volcano snail, and a rare algae of Blick Mead called Hildenbrandia Thank you, Jennifer! Jennifer' website: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/ Jennifer on IG: https://www.instagram.com/jennifercoates666/ All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

Today's episode is a special conversation and recap of Elisabeth Condon and my experiences collaborating as visual artists in the ballet project CounterPointe (now in its 12th year) produced by Norte Maar and staged at the Mark O'Donnell Theater (Brooklyn) in March 2025. Jennifer Coates kindly came on to ask us questions about making props and what it was like for 2 newbies to enter the world of dance. Thanks, Jennifer! Special thanks also to Norte Maar and its co-directors, Julia K. Gleich and Jason Andrew for their support of artists and creative collaboration. More information about Elisabeth and Amy's work: Elisabeth: https://www.elisabethcondon.com/ | @elisabethcondon Amy: https://www.amytalluto.com/ | @talluts More information about Julia Gleich and Jason Andrew's NorteMaar & CounterPointe12: https://www.nortemaar.org/projects/counterpointe12 Julia K. Gleich's website: https://www.gleichdances.org/ Julia Gleich interview on this podcast: Episode 49 The dances we discussed: "Vermillion | 10" by Ava Desiderio and Elisabeth Condon Dancers: Minami Ando, Lucia Betelu Support structures: Elise Wunderlich Music by Zero Eklipse and William Pilarte Lighting: Evan Spigelman Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025 "And So It Begins" by Margaret Wiss and Amy Talluto Dancers: Maya Tsuruki Holden and Jaclyn Kriewall Music by Margaret Wiss Lighting: Evan Spigelman Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025 "46 Gordon" by Julia K. Gleich and Nicole Cherubini Dancers: Michelle Buckley, Kara Chan, Annie Freeman, Amber Neff, Ethan Schweitzer-Gaslin Lighting: Evan Spigelman Mark O'Donnell Theater, Brooklyn, March 2025 Special thanks to Jennifer Coates for interviewing us! Jennifer's website: https://www.jenniferlcoates.com/ Jennifer on IG: @jennifercoates666 Artists mentioned: Henri Matisse, William Kentridge, Florine Stettheimer, Keisha Prioleau Martin, Meg Lipke, Elana Herzog, Nicole Cherubini, Alvin Ailey, Judith Jamison (Dancer), Julia K. Gleich (Choreographer), Jason Andrew Dances mentioned: "Afternoon of a Faun" by the Ballet Russes, “Minutiae” (1954) Robert Rauschenberg and Merce Cunningham, "Cry" Alvin Ailey Video mentioned: "How to Make Theater Props" by Eric Bucklein (not actually old but young) https://youtu.be/JSl5Vc8mej0?si=KWGdOxnijBiEEGZc Book mentioned: Inigo Philbrick "All That Glitters: A Story of Friendship, Fraud, and Fine Art" Exhibition mentioned: "Edges of Ailey" at the Whitney All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: ⁠https://www.peptalksforartists.com/⁠ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!

In this audio essay, I roam from post-war France to the abstract expressionists to the artists of the East Village and even to outer space to consider times in art history when art was forced to bloom in the dark. These under-the-radar moments yielded deeply experimental work, and I wonder how we might channel some of that spirit in our own time. Artists mentioned: Laurie Anderson, Joan Miro, Jean Dubuffet, Marcel Duchamp, David Wojnarowicz, and Judy Glantzman Scientists mentioned: Robert H Dicke, Jim Peebles Jim Peebles interviewed by Alan Lightman for the American Institute of Physics January 19, 1988 Princeton, NJ: https://www.aip.org/history-programs/niels-bohr-library/oral-histories/33957 All music by Soundstripe ---------------------------- Pep Talks on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@peptalksforartists⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks website: https://www.peptalksforartists.com/ Amy, your beloved host, on IG: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@talluts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Pep Talks on Art Spiel as written essays: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://tinyurl.com/7k82vd8s⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠BuyMeACoffee⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Donations always appreciated!