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Welcome to Final Forum's Dragon Ball-oween Spooktacular! In this special Jelli-only mini-sode we take a complete break from format, and from breaking down Akira Toriyama's manga and anime smash success to continue our October/Halloween Festivities and on this episode, it's all about tournaments. Because of the punching. That's...scary...right? Sure. So, what will make Jelli's Top Ten Dragon Ball Attacks? The pool to choose from is ENORMOUS: The 21st Tenkaichi Budokai featured Krillin vs Bacterian, Ranfan vs Namu, Jackie Chun vs. Yamcha, Goku vs Giran, Krillin vs Jackie Chun, Goku vs Nam, Jackie Chun vs Goku The 22nd tournament featured Yamcha vs Tien, Goku vs Panput, Krillin vs Chaotzu, Jackie Chun vs Man Wolf, Krillin vs Goku, Tien vs Jackie Chun, Goku vs Tien The 23rd tournament featured Tien vs Tao Paipai, Goku vs Chichi, Krillin vs Piccolo, Shen/Hiro vs Yamcha, Goku vs Tien, Piccolo vs Kami, Goku vs Piccolo The 25th tournament has Trunks vs Goten, Videl vs Spopovich, Piccolo vs Supreme Kai Shin, Gohan vs Kibito, Krillin vs Punta The Baba tournament has Krillin vs Fangs the vampire, Yamcha vs Fangs, Yamcha vs Mummy-kun, Goku vs Mummy-kun, Goku vs Devilman, Goku vs Grandpa Gohan The universe 6 vs universe 7 tournament features Goku vs Botamo, Goku vs Frost, Piccolo vs Frost, Vegeta vs Frost, Vegeta vs Magetta, Vegeta vs Cabba, Vegeta vs Hit, Goku vs Hit, Monaka vs Hit The other world tournament features Olibu vs Chapuchai, Goku vs Caterpy, Torbie vs Tapkar, Mariakoh vs Froug, Goku vs Arqua, Goku vs Olibu, Goku vs Maraiko, Goku vs Pikkon   We decided no Cell Games and no Tournament of Power.   Jelli threw all these in a pile and picked out just TEN of his favorites. Who will they be?

Why are we connecting Dragon Ball to a show from 2022 about anarcho leftists fighting back against a corrupt conservative government? Probably no reason that's fitting with the current sociopolitical times. Welcome to Final Forum's Dragon Ball-oween Spooktacular! In this episode, Jelli and Bekinney break down the 2022 Japanese television series, Kamen Rider Black Sun. It's part of our October/Halloween Festivities where we're taking a break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon and delving into times our franchise's creators have "put on a costume" and worked on other shows and movies. In this case, it's a little bit different. We have a long list of reasons for looking at this show, but you'll have to listen to the episode to find them out.   In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney say hello to Halloween...and a special guest! A couple of content warnings: political discussion, detailing war crimes and crimes against humanity, and mentions of assassination We discuss why we chose to look at Kamen Rider Black Sun A reminder that Kamen Rider ties into the Ginyu Force via Super Sentai, as well as people like Toshiki Inoue, Shunsuke Kikuchi, Riku Sanjo, and characters like Android 16 A primer on Kamen Rider in general Why Toei chose to aim for a more adult-oriented Kamen Rider show A bit about some of the show's creators including showrunner Kazuya Shiraishi, Shinji Higuchi (Shin Godzilla, Attack on Titan, the Heisei Gamera trilogy), and Kiyotaka Taguchi (Neo Ultra Q, Ultraman X, Ultraman Blazar, Gemstone Godzilla shorts) Unit 731, Japan's secret military scientific research station that experimented on people throughout World War II The history of Marxism (socialism and communism) in Japan The Freedom and People's Rights Movement The Meiji Constitution The Japan Socialist Party Post-War socialism in Japan as American Occupation forces rebuilt the country literally and philosophically The rise of the LDP (Liberal Democratic Party) The Shimoyama Incident, and terror attacks on Japan's railway system that led to a mistrust of Japanese leftists The rise of the Japan Red Army or JRA and its attack on Lod Airport near Tel Aviv Shinzo Abe and his rise to power, politics, and beliefs that led to his assassination Japan's history with regards to its treatment of minorities including people of color, foreigners, and the LGBTQIA+ Community ...and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise....or in this case, the Halo trans-media franchise....for our special Dragon Ball-o-Ween event! And of course, special thanks to our friend, Lux Edwards, for helping us with this episode! Lux Edwards: https://bsky.app/profile/soulmass218.bsky.social   https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod

The Z fighters come up against their worst threat ever....TEENAGERS. Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 131 through 135, "More Androids?!" "Follow Dr. Gero," "Nightmare Comes True," "Goku's Assassin," and "Deadly Beauty." As we continue into the Androids Saga, we discuss Androids 17 and 18. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are back outside space and time Senzu don't work on viruses? A couple notes on Android 17 solo as well as his personality and his interactions with Goku A few notes on Android 18 as her own character including her being platinum blonde Torishima's push to create these characters and his reaction and disappointment in their creation The sleuthing skills of Von at Manga Barcelona in December 2025 and her discovery from Toriyama's long-time assistant Takashia Matsuyama as to the involvement of Toriyama's wife in the creation of Androids 17 and 18 Toriyama's thoughts on 17 and 18 as time went on Possible inspiration points behind Androids 17 and 18, reminding listeners of Toriyama's use of punk and visual kei in the past The emergence of a darker version of visual kei, known as Nagoya Kei with Silver Rose and Kuroyume B'z, Japan's highest-selling musical artist of all-time and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

What could be more threatening than *checks notes* an elderly man and a porcelain doll?!?!? Wait....what? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 126 through 130, "The Androids Appear," "A Handy Trick," "Double Trouble for Goku," "Upgrade to Super Saiyan," and "The Secret of Dr. Gero." We get into the Android Saga proper, and discuss Androids 19 and 20. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are ready to leave again Vegeta's transformation to Super Saiyan and how it is the mirror of Goku's Akira Toriyama's challenge from Kazuhiko Torishima to create different villains for this arc Android 19 Traditional Turkish clothing and its significance in Ottoman history, including its roots as religiously important and into its post WWI meanings Traditional Japanese dolls Okiagiri-koboshi dolls or basically Weebles Gosho dolls and their importance to Japanese culture Karakuri dolls, early automata that are puppets without strings Android 20 Gero Jeh-roh, Guh-roh...ruh-roh Vomit Gero's visual similarities to Albert Einstein, Christopher Lloyd as Emmet Brown in Back to the Future, Dr. Wily from the Mega Man franchise, Victor Frankentsein, and Dr. Rotwang from Metropolis Gero's stunning and uncanny resemblance to the Greek general Theodoros Kolokotronis and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

The greatest filler episode in anime history PLUS: A very special surprise. WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED?!?!?! Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 124 and 125:  "Z Warriors Prepare," and "Goku's Ordeal." As we take a look at perhaps the greatest filler episode in anime history. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are ready to leave again The best episode of DBZ. Periodt. Details about Japan's traffic and road history Statistics about car ownership in Japan The explosion of paved roadways in Japan from 1950 to 1965 The commensurate explosion in traffic accidents and fatalities over this time period PSAs: what are they, and why were they a thing Our super special surprise! and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

What happens when the most evil man alive is revealed to just have Daddy issues? No, this episode isn't about Donald Trump; we're talking about Frieza and the revelations that he's a nepo-baby. Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 118 through 123:  "Frieza' Counterattack," "The Mysterious Youth," "Another Super Saiyan?" "Welcome Back Goku," "Mystery Revealed, and "Goku's Special Technique." As we begin the Androids Saga. We discuss nepotism's history in Japan and get into cybernetic enhancements, such as they are in 2026. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are ...back? A very good-looking batch of episodes Bulma's underrated look Gohan's tutor and the meaning behind his name King Cold and what he represents Nepotism's history in Japan, with the imperial lineage tracing its way back 2600 years, lines of patriarchal succession in the Edo Period, and the continued heritage of "political families" in Japan even in the post-war era Toriyama's potential social commentary, but also his potential inspiration points such as Star Wars, the Six Million Dollar Man, and the kaiju film Gorgo Mecha-Frieza's possible design inspirations from DC's Cyborg and Marvel's Deathlok How this trope has influenced other storytellers moving forward, including, possibly, Star Wars A brief history of mecha and cyborgs in kaiju cinema including Gigan, Mechagodzilla, and Zone Fighter A discussion of cybernetic appendages and their use in the modern world A reminder that current-day cyborg technology is not as cool as it seems in fiction and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

What do true crime stories about pearls whose tale consists of hired murder, money laundering, and Osama Bin Laden have to do with Dragon Ball? You have to listen to this one to find out. Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 112 through 117:  "Call for Restoration," "Suicidal Course," "Extreme Measures," "The World Awakens," "Brief Chance for Victory," and "Krillin's Proposal." As we finish The Garlic Jr Arc. We discuss humanity's fascination with giant pearls, discuss the use of mist and fog in legends and folklore and wax poetic about cryptids and mythology and what it means to believe in such things. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are going to force their way back We...liked these episodes We compare Garlic Jr to that lovable villain of the Simpsons franchise, Sideshow Bob Mermaid Tears, aka beach glass The Pearl of Lao Tzu, aka the Pearl of Muhammed aka the Pearl of Laozi A tale of death, murder, court trials, Ripley's Belive It or Not, and overvalued gems The Pearl of Puerto The use of mist and fog in storytelling including Irish feth fiada, a mist that ensures elvish supernatural beings known as Tuatha de Danann remain invisible to humans; Dutch Witte Wieven, mysterious figures of wise women; and the Norse Niflheim, which translates as World of Mist Japanese yokai including enenra, azuki abba, and yuki onna Stories of Lake Mashu, in Hokkaido Discussing the Terragen Mists of the Marvel universe and how important it is to the Inhumans and mutants/X-Men Stephen King stories including Wizard and Glass (and The Dark Tower), The Mist, Dr. Sleep and IT Bigfoot, for some reason, and we talk about Harry and the Hendersons, Sasquatch Sunset, the Asylum's Bigfoot featuring Alice Cooper Mermaids and we talk about gillmen and The Shape of Water and The Cabin in the Woods, the Polish movie The Lure, the film Blue My Mind and of course the Tom Hanks-Daryl Hanna film Splash and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

Spear fishing. Male boob windows. These are Dragon Ball things, right? They are now. Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 108 through 112: "The Heavens Tremble," "Black Fog of Terror," "Battle in Kami's Lookout," "Fight with Piccolo," and "Call for Restoration." As we delve into a filler saga with The Garlic Jr Arc. We discuss the history of spear fishing and break down the Spice Boys who are a reference to what you think they are. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are trying to get back home We...liked these episodes The Spice Boys. Yes, they are referencing the Spice Girls Groups that owe their success to the Spice Girls such as No Doubt, Britney Spears, All Saints, B*Witched, Atomic Kitten, Girl Thing, Girls@Play, Girls Aloud and more The Four Demonic Monarchs...or the Four Heavenly Kings Equating each Spice Boy to a Heavenly King How the manga staff picked up Toriyama's tendencies again A note about our Bansho Fan filler episode  Notes about Maron and her design as it potentially appears prior to this in Savings Soldier Cashman, a Toriyama manga that appeared in V Jump. Spearfishing, its history and how advances have led to regulation but also modern diving technology in general Math! We talk about Klein bottles, four dimensional space, and potential real-world applications for studying mathematically esoteric concepts The ab window as the male equivalent of a boob window We manage a reference to Evil Dead and Army of Darkness and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

It's the end of Frieza, forever, for real, with NO chance of him retur...he returns before the arc is even over? What? Anyway, how do we feel about the Frieza Arc having reached its conclusion? Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by jumping into comparing the Dragon Ball anime to the Dragon Ball manga. We finish discussing Frieza arc, and talk about pacing and intended endings. We also discuss six episodes of the anime, episodes 102-107, "Duel on a Vanishing Planet," "Pathos of Frieza," "Frieza Defeated!!" "Mighty Blast of Rage," "Namek's Explosion...Goku's End?" and "Goku's Alive!!" In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney prepare to return to their own universe We recap the story  We discuss whether the end of the Frieza Saga was the intended ending of Dragon Ball Animation difficulties, both with continuity and overall quality Toriyama's workload at this time A brief note on reading burning leaves to tell the future Wrapping up the arc with grades and comparing the manga to the anime and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

The Yellow Robed Demon King? Who is that? Does he remind us of Goku Black? Or Baby from Dragon Ball GT? OR Captain Ginyu? What makes the 1986 adaptation of Journey to the West so endearing? In this episode, Jelli and Bekinney take another look at 1986 Chinese television event, Journey to the West. It began as part of our October viewing where we take a break from breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon and delve into times our franchise's creators have "put on a costume" and worked on other shows and movies. Now, it's extending into BONUS ROUNDS, where we'll occasionally look back at the show and see what else we can discuss.   In this episode: Catch-up time! Do we have any further news about Dragon Ball Age 1000 or the return of Dragon Ball Super? What plans do we have for the our show right now? Join us to find out! We discuss YOUR results from the poll YOU voted in! We discuss why we chose to look at Journey to the West The reception of the show and its legacy Plans to continue breaking down the show in the future ...and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise... https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod

Have you ever wondered why Goku can sometimes punch someone and it blows up a mountain nearby and other times blast someone with a full power Kamehameha and it barely ruffles anyone's hair? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 96 through 101: "Explosion of Anger," "Namek's Destruction?" "A Final Attack," "Approaching Destruction," Gohan Returns," and "The Last Wish." As we continue on into the Frieza Saga, we focus on Goku and Frieza's battle and talk about their ability to control their ki. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are face-to-face with....something new A slight step back up for the episodes, because despite the pacing still being slow, the plot has things happening Toriyama's Dragon World as spiritual, rather than religious Ki as a metaphysical energy Metaphysics. What is it? Why is it important? What is the difference between a spacetime relativist and a spacetime absolutist? The difference between energy, ki, and power Ki as a Daoist idea and the concept of the infinite, both outside ourselves and within The connotations of Ki How ki refinement can change one's aura How the ideas of ki control are built from Dragon Ball's foundations, and how this is important to understand for everything moving forward Goku's ability to control his ki vs Frieza's inability and how their external struggle is a manifestation of their own internal battles and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise.   https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

Note: The audio is less than ideal for Jelli during the opening 3 minutes, but improves drastically during the topic-of-discussion. It's one of anime's most iconic moments, but did you know it has its basis in Buddho-Daoist traditions and the yin-yang cycle of energy? Let's talk about SUPER SAIYANS in today's episode! Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 91 through 95: "Embodiment of Fire," "Trump Card," "Keep the Chance Alive!" "Power of the Spirit," and "Transformed at Last." As we continue on into the Frieza Saga, we focus on Goku's transformation into a Super Saiyan and the importance of the moment. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney CAN escape...but SHOULD they? A slight step down for episodes, as the pacing really hurts some of what's happening here Focusing this discussion on Goku and Vegeta for reasons that will become clear Dragon Ball as a story about growth, even if that growth is incremental Why Dragon Ball's spectacle is not empty and how having something underneath spectacle makes the fireworks all the more satisfying The key conflict of the Frieza Arc A narrow mind vs an open mind How Goku brings these two ideas together and how that helps him transform Goku's philosophy of pushing himself to his limits and beyond and how Frieza's ruthlessness gives Goku no other choice but to transform A discussion of yin and yang and the taijitu How older Daoist texts refer not to black and white, but to red and blue Blue and red make...gold? Sudden enlightenment in Buddhism, satori, and how that influences the Super Saiyan transformation Attempting to rank the three biggest/most memorable Super Saiyan transformations against one another and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

You may know Frieza is based on real estate agents, but do you know why? Do his design quirks point to a deeper cultural connection to Japan's history with relating to outsiders (aka foreigners aka 'aliens')? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 86 through 90: "The End of Vegeta," "The Ultimate Battle," "Clash of the Super Powers," "Frieza's Boast," and "Bold and Fearless." As we dig into the Frieza Saga, we focus-in on the man himself and dive deep on discussing Lord Frieza. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are trying to plan an escape from the swirling dimensional vortex An overall solid batch of episodes, and we discuss why they seem more tolerable at the pace we've been going than they have in the past A reminder about Demon King Piccolo and how his children were born in the past Toriyama's decision to draw Frieza as purely evil in his first appearance and how that influenced his style of speech Frieza being partially modeled after Yu Kondo, and a promise to cover Toriyama's second editor in a future episode A discussion of oni, largely because Frieza has horns, but also because he can transform, and is alien How oni folklore in Japan has its roots in a fear of the unknown and outsiders A brief mention about The Devil, aka Satan, aka Lucifer from Christianity but not much discussion: we trust our listeners to pick up on the obvious symbolism there Frieza's basis in Japanese culture as a real estate developer/land prospector The Japanese Bubble Economy, its history, how it happened, how it burst, and the fallout Nui Onoue, Japan's Bernie Madoff, who wound up billions of yen in debt due to bad investments Shusuke Kaneko's (director of the Heisei Gamera trilogy, as well as Godzilla: GMK) own Bubble Economy movie: Linking Love The Godzilla movie that reflected the Bubble Economy: Godzilla vs King Ghidorah from 1991 Frieza's transformations Frieza's biggest comparison point in American comics, in our opinion, Mr. Sinister from the X-Men franchise and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

Is Piccolo his own person or a re-incarnation of Demon King Piccolo? If he's his son why does he have his memories and his connection to Kami? If he's a reincarnation why does he become good and speak of himself as if he's a different person? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 81 through 85: "Deja Vu," "Frieza's Second Transformation," "Another Transformation?" "Dende's Demise," and "The Renewed Goku." We begin the Frieza Saga, and focus on the person who has had their context changed most by these adventures on Namek: Piccolo. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are still alive A decent batch of episodes, but some pacing issues to be sure A reminder about Demon King Piccolo and how his children were born in the past Piccolo Jr as contextualized by the Shinto concept of a bunshin How Bunshin compare to Buddhist reincarnation cycles How reincarnation cycles lead to the concept of a mindstream, which is akin to the Olympic torch, but for one's thoughts and soul What concepts from Daoism influenced Piccolo giving birth to Piccolo Jr by spitting up an egg Some symbolism with Goku destroying the Demon part of Demon King Piccolo The way this relates to Namekians, the Namekian concept of fusion, and Nail and Piccolo's fusion Namekians, their name puns, their physiology, and how that may all be influenced by the decision to name them after slugs Guru's (or Grand Elder) unlocked potential ability and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/

Tree of Might gave us all plot and little action, but what happens when we have all action and little plot? Can we sustain a commentary for a film as threadbare as this? The answers are within as Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by tackling the 1991 movie, Cooler's Revenge. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are chilln We sync up our audio commentary for the listeners We discuss Piccolo's eating habits, if any, and whether Namekians operate on zombie rules or vampire rules when it comes to eating human food We discuss some of the production facts about the film Dragon Ball Z: Cooler's Revenge such as its 1991 release at the Toei Manga Matsuri film festival, the film's box office, and the production team working on the film We talk about the other films released alongside the movie, Magical Taruruto: Magical Battle of Friendship and Dragon Quest: The Great Adventure of Dai 1 A little bit about Tetsuya Egawa, who also created Golden Boy, and some connections between Magical Taruruto and Dragon Ball including voice work by Megumi Urawa (Uub and Universe 5's Supreme Kai in Dragon Ball Super), and production by Chiaki Imada Riku Sanjo, who wrote The Adventure of Dai and also worked on Guyver: Bio Booster Armor, as well as several Kamen Rider entries including W, Zero One, and Eternal Akia Katada, key animator, also from World's Strongest and Wrath of the Dragon Yutaka Nakamura, future Bones animator, with Bones being notable for having gorgeous work in their contemporary anime such as My Hero Academia and Full Metal Alchemist Brotherhood, will this movie hold up? The Cooler Armored Squadron Neiz, whose name is based on mayonnaise Dore, whose name is a pun on Salad Dressing and breaking down some of the confusion around this pun Salza, whose name is NOT a pun on Salsa, but rather Thousand Island Dressing, and whose design is clearly influenced by Jeice The Cooler Armored Squadron as the we have the Ginyu Force at home squad Cooler, his appearance, his name and his personality Predator, or Yautja, and how Alien vs Predator was being teased from almost the moment there were Alien and Predator movies both in existence Toriyama's contributions to this movie being a bit more than usual. Dub peculiarities, and discussing Creative Products Corporation and their history with the franchise How Funimation both kept and altered the numetal soundtrack here, and tweaked the use of Disturbed in the film What Shenron and Bulma might be up to at this time A checklist of how this movie pairs with the Frieza arc and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual as we react to this movie and re-evaluate our thoughts on it Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise.   https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social discord.gg/KGGeyt2jWD https://www.youtube.com/@finalforum8985 https://www.instagram.com/finalforumpod/