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Cori is BACK and so is the Heterodorx podcast! We didn’t even realize this was our 200th episode when we discussed an “interesting” article on PITT (Parents with Inconvenient Truths about Trans) that got Cori’s gender-neutral underthings in a twist because he, too, was once the “girlfriend” of a young man whose parents blew up. We also wasted this most auspicious number on Microsexuality, Straight Fragility, the persistence of homophobia, social systems, Identified Patients, attraction to posts, and hot nights of Mario Kart followed by “satisfaction”. Plus: cats and health (of course!) and Ninas dream bike which she will actually be able to ride soon. Links: Nina’s dream bike: https://ninapaley.com/jackalope-in-progress/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

What’s it like to survive Stage 4 abdominal cancer? The Dorx interviewed Alasdair over a year ago, shortly after he learned he was an immunotherapy “miracle patient.” But we never released that episode, partly because Nina cried about her own problems. Here Nina and Alasdair attempt to re-create April 2025 (not May, as Nina incorrectly asserts) and cover most of the same topics: emergency surgery, chemotherapy, heart failure, asking Dr Google, the woman across the infusion table, tuning out of genderworld, and robot litter boxes. All with less drama and more propriety! But is that a good thing? Should Nina release the spiked episode, which she has since listened to, despite Alasdair’s protestations? Tell us in the comments! Links: When Sons Become Daughters by Angus Fox: https://quillette.com/tag/when-sons-become-daughters/ Alasdair interviewed by Benjamin Boyce: Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

With Cori on indefinite hiatus, gender critical statistics aggregator, writer, designer, miracle cancer survivor, and friend o’ the pod’ Alasdair Gunn humbly offers to serve in his absence. We discuss why we don’t want to discuss gender. According to our recording platform’s AI assistant, we also talk about: * 00:00 - Introduction to the podcast’s themes and hosts * 02:00 - Discussion on gender podcasts and societal fixation * 05:46 - Reflections on aging, identity, and the concept of “crone” * 08:10 - The social and political landscape of pride events and gender activism * 12:49 - Society’s treatment of political figures and societal change * 16:37 - Observations on youth, right-wing cringe, and political identity * 20:18 - Personal anecdotes about pets and animal behavior * 25:22 - Critique of education and societal control * 30:45 - Personal health crises, autoimmune diseases, and medical treatment * 40:03 - Reflections on raising children and social conditioning * 48:36 - The societal response to activism and political protests * 52:37 - The influence of societal narratives and the importance of saying no * 60:12 - The history of communism, anarchism, and the personal stories of relatives * 66:00 - Advances in medicine and personal health management * 70:39 - The reality of living after life-threatening health crises * 76:10 - The importance of respecting host, John Corey, and future guest planning * 82:52 - Insights into Rene Girard’s work on scapegoating and societal myths We miss you John Corey! But with replacements like Alasdair Gunn and Riverside’s Large Language Model, we continue on. Resources: * The Anatomy of Revolution by Crane Brinton * Emma Goldman: Living My Life * Rene Girard - The Scapegoat * Nigel Farage | Twitter * Oswald Mosley Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Heterodorx is on indefinite hiatus while one of us goes through some Life Stuff He Can’t Talk About. But here’s a recording from early April, released today, June 5. So much has already changed! For example, Nina’s favorite nutrition shake, Soylent, is no longer available. SAD! We also discuss vegans, vegetarians, having to eat meat when you don’t want it, a canceled (and then uncanceled) YouTuber, Spirit Island, house-moving helicopters and other Homo wner content, and greatly exaggerating reports of our death. Links: NinaPaley cancels the Vagina Museum: https://4w.pub/nina-paley-cancels-the-vagina-museum/ Spirit Island Archive: https://www.youtube.com/post/UgkxDPRFpq-C3zd9_DhKA-j5IWCpnABOcuYy FBoy Island: https://tv.apple.com/us/show/fboy-island/umc.cmc.6pvj6bxzk3vtisbuz0c8lg19f Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Writer, podcaster, teacher, thinker, public discourser, and friend of the pod’ Megan Daum joins the Dorx to discuss 80’s music trivia. After which we talk about natalism: pro, anti, soft anti-, demi-, and a-. How wrong was Paul Ehrlich? Is the Demographic Transition Theory true? How has our understanding of (over)population changed? Are people better off having kids? Who will wipe our butts when we get old? What wallpaper goes with suicide? Were we really that clever and interesting in our 20’s, or just cute? And most importantly, WHAT IF?? Links: The Unspeakeasy podcast: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/ Unspeakeasy Retreats & Workshops: https://theunspeakeasy.com/ J. Geils Band: Centerfold Peter and the Wolf Unspekeasy Lionel Shriver interview: https://www.theunspeakablepodcast.com/p/lionel-shrivers-most-problematic Nina’s abandoned late 1990’s/early 2000 antinatalist documentary Thank You For Not Breeding: Selfish, Shallow, and Self-Absorbed: https://www.meghandaum.com/selfish-shallow-self-absorbed Paul Ehrlich: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-026-00939-5 Demographic Transition Theory: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/11618374/ Virginia Abernethy - Population Politics: https://www.routledge.com/Population-Politics-The-Choices-That-Shape-Our-Future/Abernethy-Hardin/p/book/9780765806031 Deluded and Immature by Nina (contains all the things I wanted to say on this podcast but didn’t): https://ninapaley.com/2022/10/04/deluded-and-immature/ The Baby Boon by Elinor Burkett: https://archive.org/details/babyboonhowfamil0000burk Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

After talking about health as we always do because we’re old, we pivot to diet — specifically veganism. Cori, who has never cared about animal rights, gamely steel-mans an argument in favor, while Nina, whose bleeding heart has caused anemia and possibly brittle bones, fearfully argues against. Along the way we cover tribes, rituals, purity, CRISPR, evolution, Lierre Keith, lactose tolerance, lactation intolerance, the Bible, abattoirs, eggs, nuts, Jordan Peterson, cults, The Liberation Pledge, and how Nina accidentally killed a bat when she was 17. Since recording this on Passover 2026 (release delay 85% Cori’s fault) Nina worked through more of her apostasy, first writing The Law of Conservation of Evil and then Vegan Appreciation Day. She’s done now. Links: The Vegetarian Myth by Lierre Keith: https://www.lierrekeith.com/book-ex_the-vegetarian-myth.php Soylent (Creamy Chocolate is the only good flavor): https://www.amazon.com/Soylent-Chocolate-Protein-Replacement-Bottles/dp/B08H6FB43L?th=1 Nina’s Fecebook solicitation: https://www.facebook.com/nina.paley/posts/pfbid0EcMpKSUVyGm6356iEw8VeJXzRJhSP5X3YyVZkDKrUAVrMrYC4oUR3fMriQ8vA2xtl Nina’s poll on Spinster: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B4tQFS5G2srXYSm1Lc Nina’s poll on Twitter: Jordan Peterson’s Lion Diet: https://liondiet.com/the-diet-updated-march-2018/ The Liberation Pledge: https://veganfta.com/blog/2022/11/16/what-is-the-liberation-pledge-and-how-hard-is-it/ Vegan TERFFles (out of stock) (password: vegan): https://store.ninapaley.com/product/vegan-terffles/ Vegan Appreciation Day: https://ninapaley.com/2026/04/09/vegan-appreciation-day/ The Law of Conservation of Evil: https://ninapaley.com/2026/04/04/the-law-of-conservation-of-evil/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

After obligatory discussion of the weather and other old people stuff, Cori lulls Nina to sleep with tales of AI: training software developers to use Claude Code, how one set of commands yielded 20 results, and other top-tier content. Then he relates his entire social media history from college onwards, culminating in his decision to leave X 2 weeks ago. Nina recalls her incarcerations in Fecebook Jail but can’t remember what funny intro she was gonna use this week. Plus: ramen shivs, Twitter fights, the algorithm and the app, titration, vegan Terffles, and more! Links: XX-XY Athletic Wear: https://www.xx-xyathletics.com/ Sora AI generated cat videos: Sora: https://sora.chatgpt.com/ Grok Imagine: https://grok.com/imagine Anheiser-Busch Superbowl ad: Lierre Keith’s The Vegetarian Myth: https://www.amazon.com/Vegetarian-Myth-Food-Justice-Sustainability/dp/1604860804 Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Recording shortly before Cori deletes his X account, the Dorx discuss chometz, pre-Pesach purging, and locking breakfast cereal in the basement. Nina feels “more Zionist than usual” and Cori criticizes Israel. Then Nina nerds out on recumbent bike history and describes the DREAM BIKE she is finally designing, dropping names like Craig Calfee, Gardner Martin, Fast Freddy Markham, Tom Teesdale, and AD Carson, while only hinting at frame-builder she’s collaborating with, Davis Carver. Cori wakes up from his nap and recalls searching “Death Before Detransition” on BlueSky, finding an unhinged rant by a “Silence-of-the-Lambs-level crazy” trans-identified male and likely future mass shooter (audio included). Plus: the Troon-to-Jew Pipeline, front- and back-end geometries, connecting supply chains with a jackshaft, Joscha Bach, Detransition Awareness Day, LiDAR, and Cori’s Substack. Jesus! Links: Cori’s Substack: https://substack.com/@corinnacohn Nina’s dream bike blog page: https://ninapaley.com/jackalope-in-progress/ Gone to Soldiers by Marge Piercy: https://margepiercy.com/gone-to-soldiers Champaign in the Bible: https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/Champaign The Economist: “At Last, A Just War” by Yair Lapid: https://www.economist.com/by-invitation/2026/03/01/at-last-a-just-war Michigan synagogue attack: https://bridgemi.com/michigan-government/michigan-synagogue-attack-police-respond-to-shots-fired-truck-crash/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Nina is a Certified Food Handler, Cori is a Certified Ball Handler, and “bureaucracy just hasn’t been done right yet”. We helplessly learn about learned helplessness and why our episodes are so few and far between. Plus anomia (anomic aphasia), lesbian comedians, Robby Hoffman, rumination, and Iran. Why is the Islamic regime firing on its neighbors? Is this the beginning of World War 3? Is Nina emerging from cancellation? Why is Cori boycotting, divesting from and sanctioning NYC? If you can make it through all the distracting cat antics, you might hear some answers! Links: Iran So Far Away: Food Handler Certification: https://aaafoodhandler.com/illinois/food-handler-card/ Disabling Impairments cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/disabling-impairments/ Discount card sets: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/playing-cards-double-decker/ Local non-woke bike shop: https://bakersbikes.com/ Robby Hoffman “No Backsies!” Janet McNamera: Not Smart Enough: Our Zartosht Soltani interview: Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Nina gets invited to an animation festival for the first time in years, turning her world upside-down. Then we discuss the Great Mail-Order Terffles Experiment, which by the time of this writing (2 weeks after our recording, because Cori’s depression delays his editing even more than usual) has successfully concluded. Next we talk about the mounting list of trans mass shooters, and the desire of wikipedia editors to suppress it. Also guns, Reddit, aspirational truthiness, New York City, bike helmets, memory loss, and of course CATS and HEALTH ISSUES. Czech it out! Links: Wikipedia editors try to suppress a list of Trans Mass Shooters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2026_March_3#Category:Mass_shootings_by_transgender_individuals I’ve Got A Little List: Trans Rhode Island shooter: https://www.aol.com/articles/rhode-island-shooter-revealed-divorced-145701661.html Paranoid American interviews Nina about AI: Terffles: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terffles/ (password: yum) Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Nina weighs the pros and cons of offering her delicious chocolate Terffles at the local Farmer’s Market, while Cori is motivated by lulz. Is it a chocolate thing, or a gender thing? Which wins: love, humor, or domination? Can Cori work on the Sabbath? How can 2 things be true?? Plus: social climate change, Tranndies, just another trans male mass murderer, sex-denying journalists, cats, and the weather. We recorded this over 10 days ago, and since then Nina launched and completed this brief Terffles-by-Mail experiment: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/terffles/(Link password: “yum”)That batch are literally in the mail now, making their way to their USA destinations. Links: Istanbul (Not Constantinople): Too Darn Hot: Art Coop “No TERFs” sign: https://www.news-gazette.com/opinion/columns/jim-dey-terf-battle-in-urbana-averted/article_cdf7ecd4-2e0d-5759-84b7-fbbe653de2a5.html Men’s Pocky: https://candycritic.org/pockyformen.htm Carole Hooven calls out journalists lying about murderer’s sex: Pusslims: https://x.com/_Islamicat Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

After Nina “sings” the theme song to The Electric Company and Cori talks about his cats, we discuss last week’s news: gender-critical lawyer Glenna Goldis’s hiring by the FTC post-firing by NY State Attorney General Letitia James, and detransitioner Fox Varian’s $2M lawsuit victory. Living up to our promise of quality content, we look up things on the Internet while recording. Then it’s time to talk Terffles: artisanal chocolates handmade (not handmaiden!) by a canceled TERF witch but inclusive of everyone. Will the Urbana Farmer’s Market accept Nina’s delicious Amaretto Amarena Amazeballs? Plus: “The age of Free Software is ending,” DEI parasites, PaleGray Labs, team names for a cat Cute-Off, Cory’s real name, and more! Links: Glenna Goldis hired by FTC: https://www.dailywire.com/news/trump-admin-hires-glenna-goldis-lawyer-fired-by-letitia-james Fox Varian $2M lawsuit: https://www.economist.com/united-states/2026/02/06/lawsuits-over-transgender-medicine-for-minors-could-be-huge Benjamin Ryan, journalist: http://www.benryan.net/ ASPS Statement: https://www.plasticsurgery.org/documents/health-policy/positions/2026-gender-surgery-children-adolescents.pdf AMA statement: https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2026-02-06/american-medical-association-says-gender-surgeries-for-minors-should-wait The Banality of Stupid (2017): https://ninapaley.com/2017/03/23/the-banality-of-stupid/ Hannah Ahrendt: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/banality-of-evil Informed Dissent podcast: https://informeddissentpodcast.substack.com/ The Lunduke Journal: https://lunduke.com/ Rhapsody in Blue Virtuoso tap dancing: Disabling Impairments cards: https://store.ninapaley.com/product/disabling-impairments/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Enjoy a full hour of Cori and Nina at their best: arguing about attribution, pretending the male co-host is the “designated feminist,” and snarking about various current events. Cori asserts women, old people, and the disabled shouldn’t be on airplanes, and Nina, who is all 3 of those things, does her part. We read aloud an inane comment on our last episode that calls us “a genocide-supporting podcast.” Plus: Jo Freeman, Peggy McIntosh, Max Blumenthal, “self-hating Jews”, ICE vs Border Patrol, Jo Freeman, civil disobedience, buffoonery, policing, a ladyfinger in the face of the pope, Jo Freeman, misogyny, misandry, and Jo Freeman. Finally, a Listener Challenge: write a one-paragraph Anglican sermon about misogyny. Please leave yours in the comments! Links: Jo Freeman: https://www.jofreeman.com/ Peggy McIntosh: https://www.wcwonline.org/Active-Researchers/peggy-mcintosh-phd Kim K’s Komment: https://heterodorx.substack.com/p/episode-186-whats-happening-in-iran/comment/206704453 The GrayZone: https://thegrayzone.com/ Max Blumenthal: https://thegrayzone.com/author/max-blumenthal/ Alex Pretti: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Alex_Pretti Renee Good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Ren%C3%A9e_Good cat on trampoline video (is it AI or not?): Civil Disboedience: https://blogs.law.columbia.edu/uprising1313/files/2017/10/Civil-Disobedience-by-Henry-David-Thoreau.pdf Malcolm X: https://www.malcolmx.com/biography/ Dame Sarah Mulally: https://www.archbishopofcanterbury.org/about/sarah-mullally Ladyfingers: https://baranbakery.com/savoiardi-biscuits-homemade-lady-fingers/ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

The Dorx try to understand recent events in the Area Formerly Known As Persia by interrogating animator-cartoonist-painter-comic book creator Zartosht Soltani, who grew up there before moving to New York City. What’s causing the uprisings? What outcomes are possible? What’s it like being jailed in Iran? Zartosht has personal experience with the latter, which he’s channeled into his new comic book DEEV. He also observes that America is becoming more like his former country in alarming ways. Plus: useful vs useless idiots, American vs Iranian communists, “only 3,000,” extremist families, nepotism, learning English in bars, and liberation through painting. Links: Zartosht Soltani: https://www.zartoshtsoltani.com/ Deev comic: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0FKQV4438 Useful Idiots: https://www.reddit.com/r/agedlikemilk/comments/1q3lnko/iranian_students_celebrate_the_victory_of_the/ Rita Panahi savages Whoopee Goldberg Jo Freeman essay on trashing: https://www.jofreeman.com/joreen/trashing.htm Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe

Hanukkah is over, but we still have plenty to say about candles, miracles, and commemorating atrocities. We offer our respective reviews of 2025, and Cori talks more about his joylessness, depression, and identifying with “victim groups.” Nina reports progress on her SSDI Blue Book playing card illustrations, including a transgender Jack (“LadyJack”) and Queen Prostate Cancer. Is Down Syndrome progressive? Does Cori “feel Jewish” yet? What should we watch on TV? Do we have any listeners left? Whatever the question, the answer is increasingly: GO BILLS! Links: True Blue Lou sung by Annette Hanshaw: Bondi Beach Hanukkah massacre: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cqjg22rey0lo Chuck Schumer: Go Bills! Rob Reiner murder: https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2025/12/23/rob-reiner-wife-michele-death-certificates-memorial-service/87899544007/ The 12 Days of Christmas: https://www.almanac.com/what-are-12-days-christmas SF Hillel arson: https://sfdistrictattorney.org/man-charged-with-arson-in-connection-to-fire-at-san-francisco-hillel/ Jewish men attacked on NYC subway Cori’s pic on X in front of a giant menorah: Nina’s 2025 Year In review: https://ninapaley.com/2025/12/19/my-2025-year-in-review/ Nina’s SSDI Blue Book illustrations - Queens: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B1W5HfREevhkTfdyt6 & Jacks: https://spinster.xyz/@ninapaley/posts/B1HQIvEmaTyLQwrNJI Pluribus: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt22202452/ House of Lies: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1797404/?ref_=fn_t_1 Severance: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11280740/?ref_=fn_t_1 Naked Gun: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3402138/?ref_=fn_t_1 PHQ9: https://share.google/PO5J3OAtPMRCLGKVJ Get full access to Heterodorx Podcast at heterodorx.substack.com/subscribe