Advertise on podcast: Pivot Podcast

“I take the blame on defense, we thought we earned it but it was a young mindset.” Jared Verse We love sports because it's all about the thrill of victory and the agony of defeat, but for the athletes who play the game, it's all the moments in between that truly impact one's journey and mindset. Heading into Super Bowl weekend,  we look ahead to the big game with one of the most dominant young players in the NFL, LA Rams Jared Verse — the 2024 Defensive Rookie of the Year and one of the league's most disruptive young edge rushers. Jared joins The Pivot Podcast for a deep-dive into the chess match called professional football. The young star breaks down how film study, technique, and a relentless motor have helped him terrorize NFL quarterbacks, rack up pressures and tackles for loss, and evolve into a true game-changer for the Rams’ defense.  We get into LA's last two season endings in heartbreak loss, going inside the mindset after his team's NFC Championship loss in Seattle as Jared opens up in a reflective and humbling tone about what went wrong, who's to blame and how to recover mentally from the disappointment. He talks about his MVP quarterback Matthew Stafford, leadership from Sean McVay and special advice from Aaron Donald that has changed his approach to the game. In opening up about this loss that still stings, and how this feeling will fuel his offseason preparation — from extra hours in the lab to the mindset tweaks that separate good defenders from great ones. Plus, he shares what it’s like to learn from and compete with the best: the time he challenged Aaron Donald to a brutal one-on-one workout, came out the other side exhausted but inspired, and walked away with lessons on grit, fourth-quarter toughness, and the habits of elite defenders.  Jared also talks about the defensive stars he studies, the moves and counters he’s adding to his repertoire, and how guys like Donald, Myles Garrett, Micah Parsons, TJ Watt and others helped shape his approach — even facing San Fran's Trent Williams on his welcome to the NFL moment and how it woke him up to another level. He also shares his thoughts on his former college teammate Keon Coleman's struggles in Buffalo and what he thinks will come of it all. From film breakdowns to mental insight to edge rushing philosophy, teammate dynamics, and how the greats build a game against the very best — this is one of the most personal, candid reflections of a top athlete opening up on the highs and lows of playing sports at an elite level. Pivot Family, thank you for rocking with us, we love hearing from you, please hit subscribe, like, and comment! Keep this thing rolling! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Super Bowl week is about the culmination of blood, sweat and tears with the best teams going at it and crowning a new NFL champion. This episode is a conversation with someone who knows a lot about what it takes to be at the top of a sport and the will to win at all costs...retiring with a perfect 42-0 boxing record, Terrance "Bud" Crawford joins The Pivot for a powerful, reflective conversation about legacy, purpose, and what comes next. Without hesitation, Bud tells Ryan that fight night between two top boxers is bigger and more pressure than the Super Bowl and explains why he sees it as such. Describing his journey in detail and how he defied the odds as a kid from the streets of Omaha to the mountaintop of boxing 🥊 Bud opens up about his decision to step away from the ring, revisiting a career defined by record-breaking fights, historic championships, and defying the odds to become an undisputed world champion. He speaks with honesty how he didn't have all the same opportunities as the big names in the sport yet he prevailed as the best to do it in his era. He is the first male in the modern four-belt era to become an undisputed world champion in three different weight divisions and highly regarded as one of the top pound-for-pound fighters in the history of the sport- with his win over Canelo Álvarez widely seen as a defining achievement and one of boxing’s signature performances. Bud breaks down the mindset that carried him through adversity, the moments that shaped him as a fighter, and the pride he takes in representing his city and his people at the highest level. Beyond the belts and accolades, Bud talks fatherhood, growth, and why family has always been his true north. He also shares why he believes boxing is in good hands, offering respect and insight on the next generation ready to carry the sport forward. Channing asks if there is a number that could get him to return to the ring, and his answer is surprising but also extremely telling of who he is as a man. This conversation is an exploration of greatness, resilience, and a life built with intention showing that anything is possible. Whether you’re a boxing diehard or a fan of real stories about perseverance and purpose, this is an episode you don’t want to miss. Pivot Family, don't forget to comment, like and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Pivot Family! Your favorite trio is back talking all of sports' big stories and breaking down the hottest headlines. Super Bowl week is finally set with the Seattle Seahawks and New England Patriots back in the big dance! But that wasn't the biggest NFL news of the week, as a leak from Canton reveals Bill Belichick did not make the Hall of Fame as a first ballot and we talk about the fall out, what this means for Belichick and what it says about those involved in the process, is it personal? The long standing Pro Bowl has always been a way to recognize the league's elite, but has it become a popularity contest more than a football honor? The guys discuss after the sports world reacts to Shedeur Sanders being named as one of the AFC quarterbacks, which Fred raises the question, how did he get ahead of Trevor Lawrence who was a MVP finalist? The league's eight head coaching vacancies are almost all filled and another year of no minority hirings, it's a process of hiring the best person for the job and we go in depth about Ryan being seen as a strong candidate to lead a team. College football is changing more and more as teams are putting in place a fine policy for missing practices and team events, we talk about how Deion Sanders implemented this system at Colorado and why the NCAA landscape has become so cloudy. We also talk about Tracy Morgan's recent encounter with a person he once knew who used to bully him as a kid, the guys share their experiences and how even as adults, it's hard to process sometimes. Pivot Family don't forget to comment, like and subscribe to stay up to date on all our latest conversations, and we really do love hearing from you, keep letting us know what you think! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I’m going to be the best basketball player I can ever be and I’m also going to be the best father that I can ever be.” Boston Celtics superstar Jayson Tatum sits down with Ryan, Channing and Fred for a raw, wide-ranging conversation that goes far beyond the headlines and boxscore. Tatum opens up about battling through injury, the moment he nearly walked away from the game, and the mental toll that comes with carrying expectations at the highest level. Recently returning to the court for rehab and light work, the 6x time NBA All Star and World Champion opens up on how the last year has been the toughest in his life, admitting self-doubt, questioning his will to heal and contemplating his return this season. Winning a title with Celtics etched his name in Boston royalty, although the high expectations still move him to chase the legends who've come before him while his focus remains on getting back to a championship. Jayson was upfront about working through past growing pains with Jaylen Brown, the pressures of being a face of the NBA and the three words Joe Mazzulla whispered to him during the biggest moments of their Championship run. A self-proclaimed mama's boy, he shares a deep understanding of sacrifice, hard work and how growing up with little motivated him being raised by a single mom but candidly he opens up on why he values the relationship with his father differently but still a bond he appreciates. With the anniversary of Kobe Bryant's passing, Jayson Tatum reveals how he was inspired by the icon and modeled his life based on certain experiences and explains why he is completely appalled with anyone questioning Kobe's contributions to the game. He reflects on representing Team USA in 2024 on the Olympic stage, what that experience taught him, his true in-the-moment feelings with Steve Kerr and how it reshaped his perspective as a leader but also as a man. From embracing the weight of Boston’s historic legacy to navigating fatherhood while still chasing greatness, Tatum shares how his humble beginnings continue to ground him. Honest, reflective, and powerful—this is Jayson Tatum like you’ve never heard him before. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we value hearing from you and appreciate your support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“We are about proving ourselves right, not proving others wrong.” Marcus Jones  Super Bowl dreams are on the line. Before stepping onto the field for the AFC Championship, All-Pro Marcus Jones joins The Pivot Podcast for a raw, wide-ranging conversation about pressure, preparation, and purpose. Marcus breaks down what it really takes to perform when everything’s at stake—mentally, physically, and emotionally. From his journey to this moment, to the mindset he’s carrying into the biggest game of his career, nothing is off limits. He talks leadership, resilience, staying locked in through the noise, and what fuels him when the lights are brightest. Making history for the Patriots with an interception returned for a touchdown to help lead his team over the Houston Texans to land in the AFC championship, Marcus shares what it's like being underestimated as a defense, even calling out RC on his picks against them in a friendly banter egged on by Channing ofcourse! The guys talk about Cardi B's super fandom, Stefon Diggs' unique leadership qualities and how it's been building a team-first mentality under Coach Vrabel vs his rookie year lessons learned from Coach Belichick. Growing up in a military family that moved around, Marcus has had discipline at the core of everything he does as well as a family-first mentality, appreciating the sacrifices his father made for him and says becoming a young father himself, was pivotal, as he never wants to fail his son, who was recently diagnosed with Autism. This is more than football—it’s about belief, sacrifice, and showing up when it matters most. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button! We love hearing from you! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Money and Fame is loud, jail was quiet." Sebastian Telfair former NBA star No truer meaning of the word Pivot then the rise and fall of success, money and fame to hit rock bottom, accept the consequences and figure out how to move forward. In his first conversation since being released from prison, former NBA guard Sebastian Telfair joins The Pivot for a raw, honest, and long-awaited conversation. Once one of the most hyped prospects in basketball history, Sebastian made headlines as a teenager—gracing the cover of SLAM Magazine alongside LeBron James and becoming the symbol of New York City basketball before ever playing an NBA game. He opens up about the highs of making it to the league straight out of high school—and the lows that followed, including the choices that led to his time behind bars. Once celebrated for his basketball talent and condemned for his mistakes, Sebastian Telfair is now facing the hardest opponent of all: himself. A couple weeks after being out of jail, Sebastian addresses the legal trouble that led to his sentence, taking full responsibility for his actions and reflecting on the consequences that changed his life. Being at Fort Dix Federal Correctional Institution, same place Sean Combs (P Diddy) is serving his time, he chats about thier encounter and lessons that come with freedom. Now on the other side, he shares what prison taught him, how it reshaped his perspective, and what redemption, growth, and purpose look like today. Once a teenage phenom turned NBA pro, Sebastian Telfair’s story is a reminder that talent opens doors—but choices decide the outcome. Drafted straight out of high school, Telfair opens up about the pressure that came with early fame, the expectations he carried, and why his NBA career never fully reached the heights many predicted. He speaks candidly about decisions on and off the court, navigating the league at a young age, and how distractions, environment, and accountability played a role in his journey. This is more than a basketball story—it’s a conversation about hype, hardship, accountability, and what it really means to pivot when life forces you to. Real talk. Real lessons. Real growth. You don’t want to miss this one. Pivot Family, please like, subscribe and comment, we love hearing from you and your support keeps us going! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Chicago is a gritty city, we need intensity like that from Caleb and Ben Johnson.” Mojo Brookzz Chicago comedian In a special episode of football and comedy, The Pivot Podcast welcomes Chicago comedian Mojo Brookzz a rising star known for his sharp wit, real-life storytelling, and unapologetic humor—plus an unwavering love for his hometown and the Chicago Bears. Mojo breaks down his journey from grinding on Chicago stages to his rapid rise in comedy, sharing what it really takes to build momentum, stay authentic, and keep betting on yourself. The conversation goes beyond comedy as Mojo talks being a die-hard Bears fan, the excitement around the team’s current success, and what it means to finally see Chicago football trending in the right direction. He shares why the city is rallying behind Quarterback Caleb Williams and head coach Ben Johnson, how their mentality and execution has ignited not just the fanbase but the city. He also shouts out the Chicago greats who influenced his mindset and creativity, from legendary athletes to hometown icons who set the standard for excellence. Mojo opens up about navigating fame, staying grounded, and pivoting through life with humor, loyalty, and purpose. The conversation dives into the realities of the comedy grind, navigating setbacks, staying true to your voice, and how Chicago’s culture helped shape Mojo’s comedic perspective. We even explore the impact of family support, especially a father's acceptance and how that can be the one defining factor in the course of life. This is an episode about betting on yourself, finding your lane, and pivoting through life with humor and purpose. Pivot Family, please comment, like, hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you and your support. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Self Motivation- If you want different for yourself, you gotta do different for yourself. If I can’t control anything else in this world, I can control my ways and my actions, so I’ll start there.” Method Man Hip-hop icon, actor, and cultural legend Method Man joins The Pivot for a powerful conversation that goes beyond music and making movies. From his rise as a founding member of the Wu-Tang Clan to building longevity across music, film, and television, Method Man breaks down the mindset, discipline, and pivots that shaped his journey. He opens up about navigating fame, protecting his craft, fatherhood, and the lessons learned from setbacks and success. With trademark authenticity and wisdom, Meth delivers gems on evolution, ownership, and staying true to yourself while adapting to change. He lets us in on some never-heard-before stories from studio sessions with Mary J, to bond with Snoop to final words with Tupac to relationship with Biggie...Method Man shares his experiences from a decorated life to the dark parts we didn't see. This episode is raw, reflective, and inspiring — a masterclass on growth, resilience, and redefining legacy. You don’t want to miss this one Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love to hear from ya! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today on The Pivot Podcast, we’re joined by one of the NFL’s most dominant edge rushers — Brian Burns. Coming off a record-breaking season with the New York Giants, where he racked up 16.5 sacks — second most in the NFL behind Myles Garrett, Brian opens up about the defining moments of his career and the evolution of his game. He reflects on leaving the Carolina Panthers, what that transition meant personally and professionally, and how embracing change pushed him to another level. Brian opens up on his personal experience on the NFL being a business and no matter how many times you hear it, you don't truly know until you've gone through it and the impact of leaving a city he thought would be his career-home. Despite a record-setting year for Burns, the team success of Giants is something that weighs on him and is committed to turning his focus to building off the positives and has high hopes for what a new coach will add to the organization. From key veteran leadership to the electric play of quarterback Jaxon Dart, Brian believes New York's future is bright because of Dart's confidence, the skill level of offensive weapons, and young bulls like Adbul Carter being a fierce competitor with strong years ahead. Brian also gets candid about family, the role they’ve played in keeping him grounded, and how perspective off the field fuels excellence on it. From navigating expectations in a new city to discussing the future of the Giants, leadership, and legacy, this conversation goes far beyond stats and highlights. And of course, the guys have some laughs, as Channing knows Brian from the time he was a young boy living in south Florida as they exchange some stories of how Brian remembers Channing from back then haha. And that spirited love continues to now as Channing gets on him about having grown man hobbies vs the anime collection he boasts. This is an honest, insightful look into the mindset of an elite competitor — one who understands that growth, sacrifice, and purpose are just as important as production. Pivot Family, please like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we love hearing from you and appreciate the support always! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Chasing greatness is grieving the person you once were.” Tyriq Withers Ryan, Channing and Fred chop it up with Tyriq Withers, a rising actor making his mark in Hollywood, for an honest conversation about perseverance, processing grief, risk taking and how his journey is proof that purpose doesn’t always follow a straight line and what's meant to be will always be. The conversation starts off with a fun story of Tyriq, a Jacksonville native, sharing how his childhood idol was a FAMILIAR guest speaker he had as a kid in elementary school... one guess? And you already know Chan and RC had a field day with the age jokes of Freddy T being that guy 20+ years ago! A die-hard Jaguars fan excited for the playoffs, he also opens up on the special meaning behind wearing a custom made "144" Shedeur Sanders jersey and how the bible verse he had imprinted on the sleeve changed his thought process. Yes, his love of sports starts long ago and before stepping in front of the camera, Tyriq's first love was football as he walked on to Florida State where he was part of the Seminole team (along with Dalvin Cook and Derwin James) that won an Orange Bowl in 2016. Ball was his life and taught him discipline, resilience, and what it takes to perform under pressure. That foundation helped fuel his transition into acting, where he’s now making waves starring in the upcoming film Him, along with roles in other notable projects. Tyriq breaks down his journey into acting, the sacrifices it took to chase his passion, and the mental resilience required to survive an industry built on rejection and uncertainty. From navigating auditions and staying grounded to defining success on his own terms, he shares what it really means to pivot when the path isn’t guaranteed. He talks about what it was like working with Donald Glover, shares who is on-screen inspiration is and the full circle experience of learning from Marlon Wayans, who he admired growing up and then became a big brother to him during the filming of Him. But Marlon wasn't just an on-screen mentor, he also helped Tyriq navigate life during one of the darkest and difficult times after he lost his older brother unexpectedly and was met with a new wave of grief and responsibility he didn't know existed. Emotional and honest, Tyriq shares how he dealt with it while still being able to pursue his dreams and balance the success with managing deep pain. Pivoting from sports to Hollywood to betting on himself in an industry built on rejection, this episode takes a deep dive on staying grounded while navigating new levels of visibility and expectation. From embracing discomfort to redefining success beyond the scoreboard, this conversation goes deeper than credits and highlights. It’s a powerful discussion about identity, faith, work ethic, and trusting the process — on and off the field. Pivot Family, let us know what you think of this inspiring episode as we start the new year, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

"Don't confuse sacrifice and discipline with suffering." Ryan Clark Where did the time go? 2025 is wrapping up as we get ready to embrace the new endeavors, challenges and our biggest pivots that lie ahead in 2026! Ryan, Channing and Fred close out the year reflecting on the past 12 months of sports' biggest stories, headlines that dominated our feeds and personal milestones we embraced. We take account of our own self growth, missteps and ways we want to be better going forward knowing that perfection is an illusion, discipline and sacrifice are required for success and we take deep dive into the chaotic sports world. FBI takes on sports gambling, Luka trade to Dallas, Micah Parsons to Green Bay, Kansas City misses post season, Travis Kelce, Shedeur Sanders frenzy and the fall of Sean Diddy Combs...2025 had it's share of the unexpected and we discuss the impact of it all while the guys keep it real on the current state of the NFL. Channing says how the AFC North isn't what it used to be, Ryan says DK Metcalf incident could cost the Steelers their season and Fred weighs in on the possible end of the Chiefs dynasty. Pivoting to family, we talk about the vulnerable sides of parenting, from walking the line between wanting the best for our kids to pushing them too hard and how in the end happiness is the only true measure of how it turns out. Avoiding to set goals isn't always a bad thing while giving ourselves grace to make mistakes is how we've learned best. We also have a little fun talking about some viral fun scenarios and how we would respond to a wife's last wishes of a "casket pass". Pivot Family thank you for all the support, all the comments, the likes and follows- being on this journey with us means the world and we look forward to bringing more impactful conversations, stories and authentic content in 2026- Happy New Year, may it be filled with good health, family, memories and happiness. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“I was at the highest point of my career, signed a max contract, all NBA team, top 3 player in East to boom, hit rock bottom. And I got through it. Life isn’t going to be easy, there’s a lot of adversity and challenges, just don’t quit.” John Wall In one of the most authentic and powerful conversations of the year, John Wall opens up on pulling himself out of a dark place and the moment he chose life and light over a frightening alternative. He speaks from the heart as he shares his journey with Ryan, Fred and Channing, hoping to show people who struggle with mental health, there is always a way out. The conversation is raw, honest, and formidable as we talk everything from basketball to brotherhood to parenting to resilience to grief and manage to have lots of laughs throughout. From being the No. 1 overall pick to battling injuries, criticism, and personal loss, John talks the highs and lows of his journey in the league. He reflects on what the game has taught him about loyalty, mental toughness, and finding purpose beyond the spotlight. This episode goes deeper than stats and headlines—touching on growth, accountability, legacy, and what it really takes to keep pushing forward when the world counts you out. He explains his real reason behind retirement and responds to rumors, gives his perspective on today's game and highlights the players who he respects in NBA today. Full of Kentucky Wildcat pride, John describes the differences between young athletes of now and his era, NIL and what the future of college basketball looks like. In a more personal moment, John opens up about his mental health journey, the unseen battles he faced while navigating injuries and public scrutiny, and how losing his mother—his biggest supporter and anchor—changed his life forever. With vulnerability and strength, he shares how grief reshaped his perspective on basketball, manhood, and purpose. Wall also talks about his next chapter, including his new role with Amazon Prime, stepping into media and storytelling while redefining what success looks like beyond the court. With the guys navigating the conversation, the episode goes deep, diving into healing, identity, and learning to evolve when life forces a pivot. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button! We love hearing from you and wish all of you a safe and happy holiday! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Three-man weave before the holidays as Ryan, Channing and Fred sit down to talk about all that’s been going on after a rollercoaster of a week in sports and social media from the Sherrone Moore news to the "we didn't see this coming" NFL moments to Kai Cenat's surprise message to offering a glimmer of hope this holiday season. The unfortunate season-ending injuries to the NFL’s top offensive player and defensive player bummed the sports world and now has changed the landscape of the league, with no Patrick Mahomes or Kansas City Chiefs in the post season, and the Packers loss of Micah Parsons altering their chance to play deep into January. The polarizing play by play of Shedeur Sanders is still captivating everyone whether you are completely against him or 100% with him, the debate is never ending. Who doesn't love Phillip Rivers? But the future Hall of Famer was 4 years removed from the game before returning to help the Colts save their season and Ryan has one perspective on his return while Channing has another. Sherrone Moore situation shook college sports but also affected the black community as the guys dive into the further implications from one's choices affecting a much larger group. Pivot Family! Let us know what you think, we love hearing from ya, so like, comment and hit the subscribe button! Appreciate you all! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“Trying to change that perception has been the most challenging thing post career…It was K-Mart the player and Kenyon the person. I didn’t let a lot of people know Kenyon the person.” Kenyon Martin Sr The former NBA All-Star, No. 1 overall pick, and one of the most relentless competitors of his era, Kenyon Martin Sr. sits down with The Pivot Podcast for a powerful, unfiltered conversation about basketball, family, and the evolution of manhood. From his rise out of Dallas to leading the New Jersey Nets to back-to-back NBA Finals, Kenyon reflects on the edge and intensity that defined his playing career—and how that same fire often shaped how he was perceived. Now, with greater perspective, he opens up about the difference between being seen as a player versus being understood as a man. He opens up about the power of his voice now, how he strives to speak from experience and how his biggest post-career challenge is being able to show the world the difference from K-Mart the player vs Kenyon the person.... The conversation takes on new depth as Kenyon discusses watching his son, Kenyon Martin Jr., carve out his own NBA journey. He speaks candidly about fatherhood, pride, restraint, and the responsibility of letting your child become their own person while still standing firm in loyalty and protection as a parent. Beyond the game, Kenyon shares lessons on accountability, family-first values, standing on principle, and how growth sometimes requires rewriting narratives—both public and personal. This episode is about legacy, love, and learning when to pivot without losing who you are. 🎙️ Raw. Reflective. Real. Kenyon Martin Sr.—beyond the jersey. Pivot Family, let us know what you think, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button, we appreciate you sticking with us! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

“You gotta always believe. When you get knocked down off your feet, there’s just something that lights your fire and makes you keep getting up and fighting, just to keep going because you have a purpose.” Malcolm Butler 2x Super Bowl Champion  In this special episode of The Pivot Podcast live from Disney's Animal Kingdom, Malcolm Butler joins Ryan, Channing, and Fred for a deeply personal and behind-the-scenes story leading up to one of the most iconic moments in NFL history. Butler relives his “magical” Super Bowl XLIX interception vs Russell Wilson—the split-second decision that changed his life, secured the Patriots’ championship, and delivered him sports' famous words- "Im going to Disney World." Malcolm opens up about what it was like to go from undrafted rookie to national hero overnight, from working at Popeyes to signing with the Patriots to playing for Bill Belichick, He shares the mindset he developed on and off the field and explains how one can never truly being prepared for a singular moment but can always being ready to compete. He reveals life lessons from Tom Brady, Julian Edelman, Gronk and Danny Amendola that helped shape the man he is today. Although his storied NFL career started magical and yielded him two Super Bowl rings, Malcolm shares the hard times and reveals the emotions behind sitting out vs the Patriots loss to Eagles in SBLII and how the pain truly affected him. From the locker room interactions to the surreal whirlwind of fame, Malcolm shares powerful insights on trust, readiness, and believing in yourself when the world doubts you. Now in his post NFL life, Malcolm is passing on his experiences sharing that coaching high school football and being a father prove to be the most rewarding aspect of his life. Authentic, inspiring, and full of raw reflection—this conversation shows a side of Malcolm Butler you’ve never heard before. Tap in as The Pivot takes you right into the heart of the magic that makes us all believe anything worth having and working for is possible. Pivot Family, don't forget to like, comment and hit the subscribe button. Special thank you to our partners and friends at Disney World, Check out special offers and more information about visiting Walt Disney World here: http://di.sn/60037CGsf Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices