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If you’ve ever had a conversation where you’ve walked away thinking, “Wow! That was just what I needed”, you know you felt encouraged, learned a thing or two, laughed, and maybe even felt a bit challenged. Author, national speaker, and pastor’s wife, Donna Jones provides life-giving “that’s just what I needed” conversations to help you know, love, and follow God in the midst of real-life--the one with daily demands and crazy cultural chaos. Sometimes she’ll welcome a guest we can learn from; sometimes the conversation will be just her and you. But, Donna’s hope is that each conversation will be exactly what you need.
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When Life Makes You Feel a Little Crazy: What Psalm 34 Teaches Us About Fear, Stress, and God’s Help
2026/09/30
Have you ever walked away from a moment and thought, Why did I say that? Why did I act that way? Stress, fear, and overwhelming circumstances can affect us more than we realize. And surprisingly, David knew exactly what that felt like.
In this episode, I’m unpacking Psalm 34 and the very relatable story behind it. We’ll talk about what David did when life became overwhelming, why seeking God is different from simply seeking relief, and how God meets us without shame, even when we haven’t handled things perfectly. If life feels a little crazy right now, Psalm 34 offers practical truth, hope, and a way forward.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones or on my website at www.donnajones.org. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:01:55 - When Life Makes You Crazy: Even David Lost It
0:07:55 - Seek the Lord, Not the Rescue: He Does the Delivering
0:08:50 - Deliverance Is a Birth, Not Amazon Prime
0:10:10 - Radiant, Not Ashamed: God Convicts but Never Shames
0:12:30 - Jesus Camps Around You: Taste and See That He's Good
What We Talk About
The surprising backstory behind Psalm 34 Why David fled into enemy territory and pretended to be insane What David did after fear and circumstances got the best of him The difference between seeking deliverance and seeking the Lord Why God’s deliverance can take time How to recognize the difference between conviction and shame What it means to look to God and become “radiant” Why desperation can lead us into deeper prayer What “taste and see that the Lord is good” looks like in real life Using Psalm 34 as a go-to passage when life feels overwhelming What to Do When Life Makes You Feel a Little Crazy
Seek the Lord. David didn’t say he sought deliverance, he said he sought the Lord, and the Lord delivered him from his fears.
Trust the process. Deliverance isn’t always like Amazon Prime. Sometimes it’s more like delivering a baby, it develops over time. Just because you don’t see immediate change doesn’t mean God isn’t working.
Look to God instead of looking at your shame. God convicts us, but He doesn’t shame us. When we turn our eyes toward Him, we’re reminded of His love, acceptance, and help.
Pray when you’re desperate. You don’t have to wait until you have it all together to pray. Desperation can be the very thing that drives you to seek God.
Take refuge in Him. Don’t just know about God’s goodness. “Taste and see” it for yourself by experiencing His presence and trusting Him in the middle of what you’re facing.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Experience More of God’s Blessing Through His Word
2026/09/23
We all want God’s blessing but what does it actually mean to be blessed? And how do we experience more of it in our everyday lives?
In this short and personal episode, I’m sharing something from Psalm 1 that has been changing the way I think about God’s Word. We’ll talk about what it really means to meditate on Scripture (it might not mean what you think!), and how speaking God’s truth to yourself can replace worry with peace, fear with courage, confusion with direction, and weariness with endurance. If you’ve ever struggled to delight in God’s Word, this practical shift might be exactly what you need.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones or on my website at www.donnajones.org. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:00:42 - Hashtag Blessed: What Does It Actually Mean?
0:02:30 - Psalm 1: The Word of God Paves the Path to Blessing
0:04:15 - Delight Means Pleasure: Why Scripture Feels Boring
0:06:20 - Meditate Means Mutter, Not Woo-Woo
0:11:40 - Five Minutes a Day: Start Reading, Then Memorize
What We Talk About
What it really means to be “blessed” by God Why Psalm 1 connects blessing with delighting in God’s Word How Scripture provides guardrails for everyday life What the Bible means when it tells us to “meditate” on God’s Word Why speaking Scripture out loud can be so practical and powerful Using God’s Word when you’re dealing with worry, fear, anger, confusion, or discouragement Simple ways to become more immersed in Scripture How to start small if Bible reading has felt difficult or overwhelming 5 Ways to Get God’s Word Into Your Life
Read it. Spend time actually reading the Bible even if you begin with just five minutes a day.
Hear it. Listen to Scripture through church, sermons, Bible teaching, or audio.
Memorize it. Choose verses you can recall when you need God’s truth in a real-life situation.
Apply it. Don’t stop at knowing what Scripture says. Put it into practice in your everyday life.
Meditate on it. Speak God’s truth to yourself. Mutter it under your breath. Bring it to mind when worry, fear, anger, confusion, or discouragement creeps in.
The goal isn’t simply to know more Scripture, it’s to allow God’s Word to shape how we actually live.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Pray with Confidence: Finding God in Life’s Hard Transitions with Ashton Weber
2026/09/16
Have you ever wanted to pray with more confidence but wondered if you were doing it “right”? Or maybe you’re walking through a transition or watching someone you love struggle through one and you’re tempted to step in and fix everything.
Today, I’m talking with someone very special to me: my daughter, Ashton Jones Weber. Ashton shares how leaving home for college deepened her faith, transformed her prayer life, and taught her to depend on God in a whole new way. We talk about why hard seasons can actually grow us, how to pray Scripture when you don’t know what to say, and why your prayers matter more than you may realize.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones or on my website at www.donnajones.org. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:00:02 - Formed by Prayer: Ashton's Story Begins
0:04:27 - From Fasting to a Decision
0:09:36 - Transition as Formation, Not Something to Be Rescued From
0:12:21 - The Bench, the Bible, and a Stranger's Invitation
0:18:50 - Taking the Pressure Off Prayer
What We Talk About
How transitions can deepen our relationship with God What our children learn by watching how we handle decisions, prayer, and faith Why helping someone through a struggle can be better than rescuing them from it Ashton’s lonely first day of college—and the simple decision that changed everything Why prayer doesn’t have to sound polished or perfect How a 21-day season of prayer and fasting transformed Ashton’s prayer life Practical ways to begin praying Scripture How to personalize Romans 8 when praying for yourself or someone you love Ashton’s “boxing coach” analogy for listening to God’s truth What it means to pray with confidence and authority in Christ Why we need people around us who elevate our faith and expectation Praying Scripture: Let God’s Word Guide Your Prayers
When you don’t know what to pray, you don’t have to invent the perfect words. Start with what God has already said.
Choose a passage of Scripture. Romans 8, Psalm 139, and Ephesians are great places to begin.
Make it personal. Put your name—or the name of someone you love—into the truth you’re reading.
Turn the truth into a prayer. For example, Romans 8 says there is no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus. Pray that truth over yourself or someone you love, asking God to replace shame, fear, or defeat with the truth of their identity in Christ.
Believe what you’re praying. Let Scripture—not your circumstances, feelings, or the voices around you—shape what you believe.
The Boxing Coach Picture
Think of life like rounds in a boxing match. When you’re tired and catching your breath between rounds, don’t listen to the crowd. Listen to your Coach.
Romans 8 reminds us:
You are not condemned.
You are victorious in Christ.
Nothing can separate you from God’s love.
You don’t have to live controlled by fear.
Life and peace are found in walking by the Spirit.
Take those truths into your next round.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How Spiritual Disciplines Help Us Grow Closer to God with Monica Ritchie
2026/09/09
We’re all being formed by something. The question is: Are the things shaping us making us more like Jesus? In this conversation with Monica Ritchie, author of Fashioned by Faith, we talk about how simple spiritual practices like prayer, fasting, Scripture, rest, and community can deepen our relationship with God. Monica shares practical ways to make these disciplines part of real life, not as another spiritual checklist, but as space for God to transform us. We also talk about social media’s influence, letting go of control, wrestling honestly with God, and learning to trust Him even when we don’t have all the answers.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones or on my website at www.donnajones.org. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:00:02 - Fashioned by Faith: Monica’s Story Begins
0:02:30 - From Fashion Influencer to Seminary
0:07:10 - Social Media as a Forming Force
0:17:45 - Spiritual Disciplines as Whole-Person Formation
0:32:20 - Fasting, Control, and Trusting God in the “No”
What We Talk About
How social media and algorithms quietly shape us What spiritual disciplines are and why they matter Bringing our head, heart, and whole self into our relationship with God Practical ways to deepen your prayer life Monica’s “wandering prayer” practice Why fasting is about more than giving up food Monica’s three-month “no-buy” fast and what it taught her about trust Letting go of control and making room for God to provide Practicing spiritual disciplines without shame or perfectionism Why spiritual formation requires endurance rather than quick fixes How our spiritual practices can change with different seasons of life Why wrestling with God can be part of a healthy, growing faith Learning to live with unanswered questions while trusting God Spiritual Formation Starts with What Is Forming You
Monica reminds us that we are always being shaped by what we repeatedly give our time and attention to. Instead of allowing our culture or our social media feed to do that work without our awareness, we can intentionally create rhythms that form us into greater Christlikeness.
Some of the practices Monica highlights include:
Prayer Fasting Scripture Rest Community Lament Mystery, wonder, and wrestling well with God The goal isn’t to do every discipline perfectly or even to do them all at once. The goal is to practice them from a place of knowing we are already loved by God and allow Him to transform us over time.
The reminder I love: Spiritual formation is less about a quick fix and more about endurance faithfully turning toward God again and again.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Monica:
Monica’s Website :https://monicaritchie.com/
Monica on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/itsmonicaritchie/
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
What to Do When You Think, This Isn’t the Story I Wanted with Nicole Langman
2026/09/02
What do you do when you’re grieving, but no one has died? Maybe it’s the loss of a marriage, a relationship, a dream for your child, your health, or simply the life you thought you’d have. In this conversation with therapist, speaker, and author Nicole Langman, we talk about how to recognize and process the losses we don’t always call grief. Nicole shares practical ways to stop unhealthy thought spirals, make space for honest emotions, and keep trusting God when life hurts. If you’re carrying a story you never would have chosen, I hope this conversation reminds you that grief and hope can exist at the same time and God is still at work.
And that He loves you deeply, no matter how things look right now.
This is a conversation you don’t want to miss and you will definitely want to share.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones or on my website at www.donnajones.org. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:03:14 - Naming Hidden Grief
0:04:38 -What Nicole learned from responses to the death of her marriage versus the death of her mom.
0:11:42 - How to Grieve Losses No One Sees (free advice from a therapist who's been there!)
0:16:09 - Carrying Scars, Not Open Wounds
0:23:09 - Breaking Rumination with Simple Habits
What We Talk About
Why we can grieve even when no one has died Nicole’s experience with betrayal and the loss of the life she expected Why certain types of grief can feel invisible Divorce, infertility, health crisis, job loss, estrangement, addiction, mental health struggles, disability, prodigal children and other life-altering losses Why comparing or minimizing grief keeps us from healing How to support someone when you don’t know what to say The difference between healthy grieving and unhealthy rumination How grief can become part of our identity Practical ways to interrupt negative thought spirals Why where we put our focus matters Trusting God when we’re hurt by what He allowed Moving from asking “Why?” to asking, “What now?” How grief can become a scar instead of an open wound Holding grief and hope at the same time Nicole’s Practical Path Through Grief
Pray honestly. Bring the real hurt to God—even when all you can say is, “God, help.”
Name the loss. Ask yourself: What exactly hurts so much? What did I lose? What story did I think I would have?
Face it instead of running from it. Grief is messy and rarely linear. Give yourself permission to do the work instead of rushing yourself to “get over it.”
Notice your thought patterns. Ask: Does this thinking heal me or hurt me? Help me or harm me? Move me toward God and the person I want to become—or away from them?
Interrupt unhealthy rumination. Move your body, engage your senses, listen to worship music, write Scripture, or call a healthy friend who can help redirect your focus.
Ask, “What would my future self want me to do right now?” Choose the action that moves you toward healing, even when it isn’t what you feel like doing.
Move from “Why?” to “What now?” You may never receive an answer that makes the loss make sense. Instead, ask God how He wants to meet you, grow you, and use your story from here.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Nicole:
Nicole’s Website: https://www.nicolelangman.com/
Nicole on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/_nicolelangman/
Nicole’s Book: This Isn’t the Story I Wanted: Grieving the Life You Lost and Trusting the God Who Stayed: https://www.nicolelangman.com/thisisntthestoryiwanted
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Reset Your Week and Care for Your Mind, Body, and Spirit with Heather Brown
2026/08/26
Do you ever feel like your week is running you instead of you running your week? I know I do! My friend Heather Brown joins me to talk about simple, practical ways we can care for our minds, bodies, and spirits without adding another overwhelming item to our to-do lists. We talk about creating intentional rhythms, managing chronic stress, protecting what matters most, and letting God help us see where our lives need a reset. Heather also shares some incredibly doable ways to slow down and care for ourselves in the middle of real, busy life. If you're tired of running on empty, this conversation is for you.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:02:24 - “Sunday Reset” for Overwhelmed Women
0:08:34 - Start With God’s Vision for Your Week
0:17:18 - Chronic Stress and the Overloaded Nervous System
0:21:19 - Box Breathing as a Daily Reset Tool
0:24:34 - Simple Hydration & Salt Hacks for Energy
What We Talk About
Why busy women so easily end up running on empty What it means to love your neighbor as yourself Heather's Sunday Reset and how to begin creating one Asking God what your ideal day and week should look like Making your calendar reflect your actual priorities Recognizing where distractions are stealing your time Prioritizing your closest relationships How chronic stress affects the body The importance of sleep and true rest Using box breathing as a quick way to calm your nervous system Simple ways to incorporate prayer, Scripture, and worship into everyday routines Creating small habits that support your physical, mental, relational, and spiritual health Why caring for yourself sets an example for your children and family Heather's Sunday Reset
Heather's approach begins with slowing down long enough to intentionally look at your life with God instead of simply reacting to everything coming at you.
Start with God. Ask: Lord, what do You want this season, week, or day to look like?
Identify what matters most. Consider your relationship with God, your closest relationships, your physical and mental health, and the specific calling God has placed on your life.
Look honestly at your calendar. Do the things taking up your time match the things you say are important?
Find the gaps and distractions. Ask where you're wasting time, what may need to be removed, and which habits aren't serving you well in this season.
Put your priorities on the calendar. Schedule the important things instead of assuming they'll happen once everything else is done.
Reset instead of expecting perfect balance. Some weeks will get crazy. The goal isn't perfection; it's recognizing when you've gotten off track and intentionally resetting.
A Simple Stress Reset: Box Breathing
Heather also shares a practical breathing exercise you can use in just a few moments:
Inhale for 4 → Hold for 4 → Exhale for 4 → Hold for 4
Repeat for a few cycles to intentionally slow your breathing and create a moment of calm.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Heather:
Heather’s Website: www.healthybyheatherbrown.com
Healthy by Heather Brown Podcast: https://mylifewellloved.com/podcast
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
Finding Healing, Forgiveness, and Purpose After Heartbreak with Danna Demetre
2026/08/19
What happens when the life you thought was secure suddenly falls apart? My friend Danna Demetre knows what it’s like to face deep betrayal and to discover God’s faithfulness right in the middle of it. We talk honestly about heartbreak, forgiveness, rebuilding trust, and what it means to anchor our identity in Christ when everything feels shaken. Danna also shares how her own painful experience inspired her debut novel, Beyond Betrayal, which she wrote in her 70s! This conversation is a beautiful reminder that God doesn’t waste our pain, forgiveness and trust aren’t the same thing, and you are never too old or too young to pursue the purpose God still has for you.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:00:12 - Never Too Old to Pursue New Dreams
0:03:00 - Turning Personal Betrayal into Powerful Storytelling
0:07:08 - When Long Marriages Are Shattered by Infidelity
0:15:00 - Identity in Christ Amid Layered Midlife Crises
0:27:44 - Forgiveness vs. Trust: Two Very Different Journeys
What We Talk About
Why Danna decided to write her first novel in her 70s How her personal experience with marital betrayal inspired Beyond Betrayal What happens to our identity when someone we love rejects us Learning to depend on Jesus when the outcome we desperately want isn’t guaranteed Giving yourself permission to grieve while continuing to live with purpose The difference between forgiveness, reconciliation, and trust Why reconciliation requires two willing people Recognizing the spiritual battle without avoiding personal responsibility Why guilt can lead us toward repentance while shame keeps us stuck How friendship, journaling, prayer, and Scripture can help us process pain The reminder that God still loves us even in our deepest brokenness Why age should never keep us from pursuing a new dream or calling Forgiveness, Trust, and Reconciliation Are Three Different Things
Forgiveness: I release the offense rather than living in bitterness, resentment, or constant scorekeeping.
Trust: Trust is not automatically restored because forgiveness has been given. Trust must be rebuilt through consistent actions over time.
Reconciliation: A restored relationship requires two people. I can do what God asks of me, but I cannot control another person’s choices.
Danna’s reminder is so important: forgiveness doesn’t mean pretending something didn’t hurt. It doesn’t mean forgetting, immediately trusting again, or skipping the grieving process. It means releasing the offense to God while allowing Him to guide what comes next.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Danna:
Lean Healthy Ageless: https://leanhealthyageless.com/
Danna’s Book: Beyond Betrayal: A Story of Heartbreak, Healing, and Redeeming Love: https://ageless-woman-store.com/collections/books/products/beyond-betrayal-autographed-copy-bookmark
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
The Wisdom of Sleep: What Rest Teaches Us About God with Brett McCracken
2026/08/12
What if sleep isn't just something your body needs but a gift from God that can actually teach you something about Him?
In this fascinating conversation with Brett McCracken, author of The Wisdom of Sleep, we explore why God designed us to spend nearly a third of our lives asleep, how sleep gives us a beautiful picture of grace and the gospel, and why our resistance to rest may reveal more than we realize. We also talk about dreams, Sabbath, hustle culture, and what to do when good sleep feels impossible.
I walked away seeing something I do every single night in a completely new way, and I think you will, too.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:02:27 - Sleep as a Gift and Theology, Not Just a Health Hack
0:07:59 - Sleep, Hustle Culture, and Spiritual Warfare
0:11:02 - Nightly Sleep as a Living Picture of the Gospel
0:15:31 - Dreams as God’s Classroom in the Night
0:23:33 - Sabbath, Limits, and Resisting the Idol of Productivity
What We Talk About
Why Brett wrote The Wisdom of Sleep What a "theology of sleep" actually means Why Scripture describes sleep as a gift from God The physical, mental, and emotional benefits of sleep How sleep gives us a miniature picture of the gospel Why waking up can be viewed as a picture of resurrection What science tells us about why we dream How God uses dreams throughout Scripture How to discern whether a dream might have spiritual significance Why Scripture must always be our standard for discernment The connection between sleep and Sabbath How hustle culture can keep us from receiving God's gift of rest Why accepting our limitations is an act of trust Finding hope when good sleep feels elusive Sleep as a Nightly Picture of the Gospel
Brett offers a beautiful way to rethink something we normally take for granted:
We lie down.
Sleep requires us to stop striving and surrender control.
We receive.
While we sleep, restoration happens without our effort. We don't achieve the benefits of sleep—we receive them.
We rise.
Each morning, we wake to new life, giving us a small picture of resurrection.
We remember.
Sleep reminds us that we're limited, God isn't, and His grace sustains us even when we're doing absolutely nothing.
That changes the way I think about going to bed!
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Brett:
Brett’s Website: https://www.brettmccracken.com/
Brett’s Book: The Wisdom of Sleep: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310175712
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Trust God with Your Life, Your Future, and Your Questions with Laurie Short
2026/08/05
If you've ever wondered where God is in the middle of unanswered prayers or unexpected detours, this conversation is for you. As I sit down with author Laurie Short, we talk about how looking back at God's faithfulness gives us the confidence to trust Him with what's ahead. Laurie shares powerful stories from her own life, practical ways to recognize God's hand in your story, and why even painful seasons aren't wasted. My prayer is that you'll walk away with fresh hope, a stronger faith, and a renewed confidence that God is still writing a beautiful story in your life (because, my friend, He is).
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:02:12 - Series on Discerning God’s Will and Introducing Laurie Short
0:03:16 – “Tracking God in Your Life” and the Power of Remembering
0:07:54 – Open/Closed Doors, Timing, and God in the “Rearview Mirror”
0:14:09 – Risk, “Mirrors and Cliffs,” and God’s Path to Freedom
0:19:46 – Pain, Flipped Scripts, and Finding Purpose in Your Story
What We Talk About
Why God is often easier to recognize in hindsight Learning to trust God's timing instead of our own Open doors, closed doors, and divine redirection How suffering shapes our faith and our purpose The importance of vulnerability and self-awareness Why life's unexpected detours often become God's greatest blessings Sharing your faith story with your children and others Laurie's interactive approach to discovering God's fingerprints throughout your life Eight Ways to Track God in Your Life
Laurie Short encourages readers to recognize God's work through everyday experiences, including:
Hearing God's voice Open and closed doors God's timing "Coincidences" and divine appointments Mirrors (looking honestly at ourselves) Cliffs (taking courageous steps of faith) Pain and suffering Life's unexpected detours ("when the script gets flipped") She also encourages creating a personal "stone pile"—a list of moments that remind you of God's faithfulness whenever your faith feels weak.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Laurie:
Laurie’s Website: https://laurieshort.com/
Laurie’s Book: Tracking God in Your Life: https://laurieshort.com/product/tracking-god-in-your-life/
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Know God's Will: Biblical Steps to Make Confident Decisions with Katrin Hagman
2026/07/29
If you've ever wrestled with a big decision and wondered, God, what do You want me to do? This conversation is for you. I sit down with podcaster Katrin Hegman to unpack a beautiful story from Genesis that offers practical, biblical wisdom we can use for discerning God's will. We talk about making decisions rooted in faith instead of fear, recognizing God's direction, and learning to trust His timing. If you're facing a crossroads or simply want to grow in hearing God's voice more clearly, this episode will give you both confidence and peace.
Remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:03:00 - Making Decisions WITH God, Not Just FOR God
0:08:46 - Don’t Take Shortcuts on the 500-Mile Journey
0:11:42 - Fear-Based Choices Always Backfire
0:15:30 - The $50 Price Tag of Integrity
0:21:23 - From Plan B to God’s Restored Plan A
What We Talk About
Why discerning God's will can feel difficult The story of Isaac and Rebekah in Genesis 24 Why shortcuts often lead us away from God's best Making decisions from faith instead of fear Practical questions to evaluate whether you're walking in God's will The importance of integrity and biblical wisdom Why circumstances alone shouldn't determine your decisions Asking God for confirmation in meaningful ways Learning to wait, observe, and trust God's timing Thanking God for His guidance and building a testimony of His faithfulness A Biblical Process for Discerning God's Will
Don't Take Shortcuts
Choose integrity over convenience. Trust God's timing instead of rushing the process. Don't Make Decisions Out of Fear
Examine your motives. Ask whether fear or faith is leading your choice. Make Sure You're Already Walking in God's Will
Live with integrity. Practice biblical wisdom. Obey the last thing God asked you to do. Seek God's Direction, Not Just Good Circumstances
Pray specifically. Ask God for meaningful confirmation rather than simply looking for open doors. Wait and Confirm
Observe. Ask questions. Don't rush to conclusions. Thank God for His Faithfulness Celebrate His guidance. Let His faithfulness become part of your testimony. Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Katrin:
Love God First Podcast: https://katrinlhagman5.podbean.com/
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
What Is God Really Doing in Your Life? Seeing Your Circumstances Through His Bigger Plan
2026/07/22
“God, what should I do?” That's the question most of us ask–maybe you’re asking it right now.. Put another way, “what is your will, God?” These aren’t bad questions–they’re good. But they can also be incomplete. Kind of like missing the forest because of the trees. Sometimes the better question is not, “God what should I do?” but “God what are you doing?”
In this episode, I want to encourage you to see your circumstances (yes, the ones you are in right now) from a different perspective. Instead of only asking God what decision you should make, what if you also asked what He's doing in you? We'll talk about how God uses trials, relationships, and His Word to shape us into the image of Christ. My prayer is that you'll walk away with renewed hope, greater confidence in God's plan, and the peace that comes from knowing He's faithfully finishing the work He started in you.
And, if you’re thinking, That’s great, but I still need to know God’s will. Today’s episode is the beginning point to that dilemma and next week my guest will answer the question, “How can I discern God’s will?” You won’t want to miss it!
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:00:12 - Rethinking God’s Will: Transformation Over Direction
0:02:40 - Life as a Dress Fitting: Conformed to Christ’s Image
0:09:09 - Trials as Refining Tools: Let Mind Lead, Not Emotions
0:13:29 - People and Scripture as Catalysts for Maturity
0:17:49 - From All Things to Radiant Bride: God Finishes What He Starts
What We Talk About
Why we often ask the wrong question about God's will God's greater purpose of transforming us into Christ's image Philippians 1:6 and God's promise to finish what He starts How wedding dress alterations illustrate spiritual growth Why God uses trials to mature our faith Learning to lead with truth instead of emotions The importance of spiritually healthy relationships Reading Scripture to know both God's character and His heart Seeing difficult circumstances through God's eternal perspective Instead of Asking...
Rather than only asking:
"God, what should I do?"
Also ask:
"God, what are You doing in me?"
God shapes us through three primary tools:
Trials – Building endurance and revealing areas for growth. People – Using authentic relationships to encourage and sharpen us. His Word – Revealing who God is and teaching us how to live. When reading Scripture, ask two simple questions:
Who are You, Lord? In light of who You are, how do You want me to live? Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Raise Kids Who Change the World for Christ | Brian Mueller on Faith, Purpose & Christian Education
2026/07/15
I loved this conversation because it reminded me that God doesn't just call pastors and missionaries; He calls teachers, nurses, engineers, business leaders, parents, and every one of us to make an impact for His kingdom. Brian Mueller shares his incredible journey from basketball coach to president of Grand Canyon University, along with his heart for raising up a generation that lives out their faith wherever God places them. If you've ever wondered whether your work, your family, or your gifts really matter to God, I think this episode will encourage you to see your everyday life as a sacred calling.
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
00:02:40 - From Coach to President: Brian’s Unlikely Road to GCU
0:06:48 - Sacred Vocation: Turning Every Career into Kingdom Work
0:13:58 - Risking Comfort: Leaving Success at Phoenix to Rescue GCU
0:18:30 - Five-Point Plan: Jobs, Safety, Homes, Scholarships, Service
0:26:15 - It Starts at Home: Parents Raising Culture-Shaping Kids
What We Talk About
Brian Mueller's unexpected journey to leading Grand Canyon University Why every vocation can be a sacred calling Integrating faith into work instead of separating the two Raising children to influence culture for Christ The importance of Christian education and discipleship Living out the Gospel through service and community transformation Trusting God's plans over our own Helping young adults discover purpose and calling Living Your Faith Through Your Calling
Brian shares a simple but powerful perspective on how Christians can influence the world:
Recognize your vocation as a sacred calling. Every profession can honor God. Integrate your faith into your everyday work. Don't compartmentalize your spiritual life. Serve people with excellence and integrity. Your character often speaks louder than your words. Build relationships that reflect Christ. The Gospel is demonstrated through how we love others. Trust God to use your unique gifts. Your passions and experiences are part of His greater purpose. Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Brian:
Brian’s Website: https://www.gcu.edu/
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Live in the Freedom Christ Already Won for You
2026/07/08
I think so many of us know Jesus has forgiven us, but we still live like we're carrying chains. In this episode, I want to remind you that Christ didn't simply make your life better. He set you free. Together, we'll look at what Scripture says about the freedom Jesus purchased for us and why so many of us still struggle with shame, fear, comparison, regret, and people-pleasing. My prayer is that you'll recognize the areas where you've been living like a prisoner and step into the freedom that's already yours. Because the prison door is open and Jesus is inviting you to walk out.
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
00:01–0:02:30 - Freedom: Walking Out of the Unlocked Prison
02:30–0:04:48 - From Self-Improvement to Christ-Set Freedom
04:48–0:06:40 - When Grace Becomes Familiar, Freedom Feels Distant
06:40–0:09:44 - Invisible Prisons: Regret, Fear, Opinions, Comparison
09:44–0:12:15 - Free People Free People
What We Talk About
What Galatians 5:1 teaches about spiritual freedom The true cost Jesus paid on the cross Why Christians still struggle with shame, fear, and regret How comparison and people-pleasing rob us of joy The difference between striving for God's approval and living from it Why gratitude fuels genuine worship How living in freedom transforms the way we treat others Practical ways to identify the areas where you still feel spiritually stuck Recognizing the "Unlocked Prison"
Ask yourself:
Am I living with shame instead of grace? Am I choosing fear instead of trust? Am I holding onto bitterness instead of forgiveness? Am I comparing my life instead of living with contentment? Jesus has already unlocked the prison door. The invitation is to step out and live in the freedom He has already given you.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Spot Manipulation (in Others and Even Yourself): A Biblical Guide to Healthy Relationships
2026/07/01
Have you ever walked away from a conversation feeling manipulated or wondered if you've unknowingly done the same? I know I have. In this episode, we're taking an honest look at what manipulation really is, why even well-meaning people fall into it, and how fear, pride, impatience, and unmet needs can quietly shape the way we relate to others. I'll share practical ways to recognize unhealthy patterns, communicate with honesty instead of control, and trust God with the outcomes we can't manage ourselves. My prayer is that you'll leave feeling more free, more self-aware, and better equipped to build healthier relationships.
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:00:02 - Podcast purpose & listener invitation
0:03:49 - Defining everyday manipulation
0:09:02 - What really drives manipulative behavior
0:14:25 - Common relational patterns of manipulation
0:19:36 - Choosing honest communication and trust over control
What We Talk About
What manipulation really is (and what it isn't) Why manipulation is often subtle instead of obvious Common motivations behind manipulative behavior The difference between influence and control Signs you're being manipulated—or manipulating someone else Passive-aggressive communication and guilt tactics Spiritual manipulation and why it's so dangerous Honest communication that builds healthy relationships Trusting God instead of trying to control outcomes The Heart Check for Manipulation
When you feel tempted to control someone, pause and ask yourself:
What outcome am I trying to control? Identify what you're hoping the other person will do, think, or feel.
What's driving me right now? Ask whether your motivation is:
Fear Pride Impatience Self-protection A legitimate unmet need Selfish ambition When you recognize what's happening in your heart, you can choose trust over control and healthy communication over manipulation.
Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
How to Find God’s Comfort When Life Falls Apart with Lisa Appelo
2026/06/24
If you've ever experienced a loss that changed everything, this conversation is for you. Grief comes in many forms–loss of a loved one, loss of a job, loss of a relationship, or simply loss of life as we want it to be–these things affect us. Deeply.
In times like this we need help for our wounded hearts. Author, Lisa Appelo, knows this all too well. Lisa shares her powerful story of suddenly losing her husband and becoming a single mom to seven children overnight. Together, we talk about grief, healing, and the comfort only God can provide when life feels unbearable. Lisa offers practical wisdom for navigating loss, processing difficult emotions, and finding hope again when the future feels uncertain. Whether you're grieving yourself or walking alongside someone who is, I believe this conversation will encourage your heart and remind you that God is near to the brokenhearted.
And remember, I'd love to connect more on Instagram, where you'll find me at @donnaajones. And don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss a single episode!
Xo,
Donna
Key Takeaways:
0:00:02 - Hope-Filled Podcast & Book Giveaway Setup
0:03:33 - From Sudden Loss to Writing on Grief
0:07:30 - What Grief Really Does to Your Whole Self
0:13:18 - Daily Lament: Journaling, Scripture, and Sustaining Grace
0:26:12 - Parenting Kids Through Grief and When to Seek Counseling
What We Talk About
Lisa's story of sudden loss and becoming a widow overnight How grief affects the body, mind, emotions, and faith Common misconceptions about grieving as a Christian The role of lament and honest prayer in healing Practical ways God provides comfort during loss The benefits of journaling through grief Why the traditional "stages of grief" can be misleading Helping children navigate loss and grief Trusting God when answers don't come Finding hope, healing, and joy again after loss Lisa's Daily Practice for Walking Through Grief
Pour Out Your Heart Bring your fears, questions, sadness, and frustrations honestly to God. Pray, cry, journal, and lament. Open God's Word Anchor yourself in Scripture, even when you don't feel strong enough. Focus on God's character and promises. Offload What You Can't Carry Release burdens that are too heavy for you. Allow God to carry what you cannot. Trust God's Presence Even without answers, trust that God is with you, for you, and sustaining you. Donna’s Resources:
Order a copy of my latest book -
Healthy Conflict, Peaceful Life: A Biblical Guide to Communicating Thoughts, Feelings, and Opinions with Grace, Truth, and Zero Regret.
It is available anywhere books are sold– here is the link on Amazon.
If you need a helpful resource for someone exploring faith and Christianity or simply want to strengthen your own knowledge, you’ll want a copy of my book, Seek: A Woman’s Guide to Meeting God.
It’s a must for seekers, new believers, and those who want to deepen their faith.
Connect with Lisa:
Lisa’s Website: https://lisaappelo.com/
Lisa’s Book: God of Comfort: A Devotional Journal for the Grieving Heart: https://www.amazon.com/God-Comfort-Devotional-Journal-Grieving/dp/0764246038/ref=sr_1_1
Let’s Connect:
Instagram: @donnaajones
Website: www.donnajones.org
Donna’s speaking schedule: https://donnajones.org/events/
Discover more Christian podcasts at lifeaudio.com and inquire about advertising opportunities at lifeaudio.com/contact-us.
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Lillian Cherryhoof Sso 2025/06/26
An awesome podcast
A great podcast to start your morning!
Lizasan design 2025/06/24
It is always what I need
Thank you Donna for Godly wisdom in my life! The topics really hit with what I may be dealing with at the moment or I can think of someone else who ne...
Cathi Hamen 2025/06/19
This is just what I needed for sure!
This is a breath of fresh air!
Donna, is full of genuine joy that only comes from living fully for Jesus and an example of what the Holy Spirits pr...
MMH717 2025/06/13
Wisdom for daily life
Donna your podcast touches my heart. It is practical and packed full of Godly wisdom. I feel like each time I listen I can’t wait to talk about it or ...
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Favorite!
I love this podcast and it is quickly becoming my favorite. The name says it all, “that’s just what i needed”! Keep them coming, please, because I’m...
clairebebe 2025/06/05
Packed with practical advice!
I’ve listened to a handful of Donna Jones’ podcasts and each one has been inspiring and empowering. She gives helpful, biblical insight and delivers h...
dear traveler 2025/04/05
So inspiring
Loving this podcast. Donna is so inspiring and offer so much wisdom. She interviews great guests / writers. I heard Donna for the first time on anothe...
Full of wisdom and grace 2025/03/16
Full of Wisdom and Grace
Amazing weekly podcasts filled with wisdom and encouragement. I look forward to Donna’s weekly podcasts and ALWAYS am encouraged and feel recharged af...
Kristi Ponce 2025/03/14
Love this podcast!
What a life-giving podcast! Donna’s teachings are insightful and practical, and her conversations with guest speakers are excellent, covering a variet...
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Donna is an amazing speaker and writer. She always brings up topics that are relevant. I so look forward to listening to her latest podcast when I’m w...
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