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What if a beautiful birth isn't about getting a particular outcome, but about how supported, safe and connected you feel through whatever unfolds? In this episode, I'm joined by Nadine Richardson, a mother, doula, birth educator and the founder of She Births, a holistic, evidence-based childbirth education program that has supported tens of thousands of families over more than two decades. Years ago, Nadine invited me onto her podcast to talk about birth trauma, so it felt full circle to turn the microphone around and hear her story. Nadine shares how her own birth more than 24 years ago left her with questions no one could answer, and how a later miscarriage set her on the path to becoming a doula. What started as a class in her lounge room grew into SheBirths, a program she built from observation and intuition years before research confirmed its core elements were evidence-based. Her new book, SheBirths: Your Practical Guide to a Beautiful Birth, brings that work together, from the nervous system and matrescence to practical tools for labor. We also talk about rising induction and cesarean rates, why so much birth trauma is preventable, and the harmful idea that a difficult birth means you weren't spiritual enough or didn't prepare enough. In this episode, we also talk about: Why around 70% of birth trauma is preventable, and why it comes from how women are treated rather than what happens to themNadine's three elements of a beautiful birth: intentions based on your values, a physical goal, and feeling safe and respectedWhy partners need the whole toolkit, from breath and massage to acupressure and hypnosisThe connection between sexuality, pleasure and birthMatrescence, slowing down in pregnancy, and why our culture struggles to honor new mothers This conversation is a reminder that we can't control which cards birth will deal us. What we can do is prepare broadly, stay connected to what matters to us, and keep asking: do I feel safe and respected here? Connect with Nadine: Website: https://shebirths.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/shebirths/ Book: She Births: Your Practical Guide to a Beautiful Birth (available on Amazon, Barnes & Noble and Waterstones) Connect with Lesha: Website: https://www.leshanelson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/ Link discussed during the show: Elizabeth Sankey's documentary Witches (2024), which explores postpartum anxiety, depression and psychosis through the history of the witch trials: https://youtu.be/_qwx5350Bj8?si=mwMzZMUjXb3wd4XKhttps://youtu.be/_qwx5350Bj8?si=mwMzZMUjXb3wd4XK

Birth is often talked about as an event as in something that begins with labor and ends when the baby is born. But our bodies and nervous systems experience birth differently. Birth is a sequence: preparation, beginning, action, completion, integration, and rest. And when parts of that sequence happen too quickly, are interrupted, or don't have the opportunity to fully complete, those experiences can sometimes continue to show up in the body long after the birth itself is over. In this solo episode, I explore birth through the lens of pre- and perinatal somatics and the nervous system. I break down implicit memory, interoception, birth imprints, and why our earliest experiences can influence how we respond to the world without becoming conscious memories or stories. We also look at birth from the baby's perspective, what it means when a physiological or relational sequence is disrupted, and how presence, co-regulation, attachment, and repair can give both parents and babies new experiences in the present. In this episode, I talk about: What pre- and perinatal somatic therapy isInteroception and learning to notice what is happening inside the bodyThe difference between implicit and explicit memoryWhy our earliest experiences can influence present-day patternsWhat we mean by birth imprints and the body's underlying blueprint for healthWhy birth is a physiological, nervous system, and relational sequenceWhat can happen when part of the birth sequence is interrupted or happens differently than expectedLooking at birth and postpartum experiences from the baby's perspectiveHow babies communicate through their bodies and behaviorThe role of presence and co-regulation for both parents and babiesRupture, repair, and why secure attachment does not require perfectionHow we can offer choice, slowness, connection, and support in the present rather than trying to change the pastWhy healing itself is a sequenceThis episode isn't about analyzing every part of your birth or assuming every struggle traces back to something that happened during pregnancy or delivery. It's an invitation to become more curious about the body's experience. The birth may be over, but sometimes our nervous systems still need time, support, connection, or repair to fully arrive in the after. We can't change the birth that already happened, but we can bring something different to what happens next. Birth is a sequence. Attachment is a sequence. Healing is a sequence. And none of them require perfection. Connect with Lesha:Website: https://www.leshanelson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/ Previous Episodes Mentioned in this Episode: Kate White episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/04Tx79jOoZj7pHPtZtBuM2?si=0a2f1893fc864c37 Interoception episode: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6mUTpNQ0DH2HnqUPtjvHof?si=51a37f0bf5074b09

What happens when motherhood collides with elite performance, constant travel, and a career that doesn't have to pause for postpartum? In this conversation, I sat down with storyteller, publicist, and brand strategist Megan Harrod to explore what it looks like to become a mother while working inside the fast-paced world of elite ski racing. Megan shares the reality of taking both of her babies around the world just weeks after birth, navigating postpartum while traveling full-time, pumping in airports and media centers, and balancing the demands of caring for world-class athletes while learning to care for herself. But underneath the logistics is a much deeper conversation about identity, nervous system resilience, and the unrealistic expectations we place on mothers. We talk honestly about miscarriage, body image, breastfeeding, the invisible mental load of motherhood, and why sharing the messy parts of postpartum matters just as much as celebrating the joyful ones. In this episode, we talk about: Becoming a mother while working in elite sports Traveling internationally with newborns and young children Breastfeeding, pumping, and the realities of postpartum on the road The identity shifts that come with motherhood Miscarriage, grief, and why we need to talk about it more openly Why postpartum isn't something you can fully understand until you're living it The pressure to "bounce back" and making peace with a changing body Learning to receive support while balancing work and family Building resilience through flexibility instead of perfection Why honest conversations about motherhood help all of us feel less alone One of my favorite reminders from this conversation: "You really realize how much you're capable of... and how much time you have. Your threshold for discomfort and chaos expands in ways you never expected." This conversation is an honest look at the realities of modern motherhood including the beauty, the exhaustion, the humor, and the constant recalibration that happens as we learn to care for ourselves while caring for everyone else. Whether you're preparing for postpartum, currently in the thick of it, or supporting someone who is, I hope this conversation reminds you that there is no one "right" way to mother, only the way that is true to you. Connect with Megan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meganharrod/ Connect with Lesha:Website: https://www.leshanelson.com/Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/

What if the most important preparation for birth isn't actually about the birth itself? In this conversation, I sat down with entrepreneur, coach, and mother Jean Madson to explore what it really means to prepare for birth and postpartum. While we expected to spend much of our time talking about postpartum, the conversation naturally unfolded into something much bigger: trust, support, and the often-overlooked challenge of learning to receive care. Jean shares her first birth experience, including an unexpected transfer from a birth center to the hospital, how intentional preparation allowed her to navigate those changes with confidence, and why she believes the support she accepted during postpartum made all the difference. We also explore the realities of preparing for twins, the privilege and barriers that exist within maternity care, and why building a trusted support team may be one of the most important parts of preparing for parenthood. In this episode, we talk about: Why preparation is about more than creating a birth plan How trust in your care team can shape your birth experience The role of doulas, midwives, and building a support system Navigating unexpected changes, including hospital transfers Why allowing support can be one of the hardest parts of postpartum The tension between independence and receiving care Setting boundaries while still letting people help The realities of breastfeeding, sleep deprivation, and early postpartum How privilege, access, and community shape the transition into parenthood One of my favorite reminders from this conversation: "The reason the challenging moments didn't lead me into depression or anxiety... was because of the support I allowed." Whether you're preparing for birth, navigating postpartum, or simply reflecting on what it means to let yourself be supported, I hope this conversation leaves you feeling a little less alone. Connect with Jean: Website: https://whole-human-co.myflodesk.com/?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeanmadison_/ Connect with Lesha: Website: https://www.leshanelson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/

What if the problem isn’t that you’re inconsistent… but that you were never meant to be the same every day? In this conversation, I sit down with mental health therapist, childbirth educator, doula, and mother of five Shara Jackson Harper to explore the intersection of hormones, nervous system health, motherhood, and life transitions. This conversation felt both validating and expansive, especially in a world that asks us to perform with the same capacity every single day. We talk about the realities of cyclical living, how stress and cortisol shape our emotional experiences, and why so many women feel like they’re failing when their bodies may actually be asking for something different. This conversation also moves into pregnancy, postpartum, caregiving, self-trust, and the cultural pressures that make rest feel impossible. In this episode, we talk about: Why women are not meant to feel the same every dayThe four phases of the menstrual cycle and how they impact mood, energy, communication, and capacityHow hormones and the nervous system work together (and sometimes against us)Why cortisol hits differently depending on where you are in your cycleWhat actually happens hormonally after birth and why postpartum can feel so emotionally intenseThe nervous system cost of modern motherhood, overstimulation, and productivity cultureRest as a biological need and not a luxuryMom guilt, self-trust, and learning to listen to your body Why repair matters more than perfection in parentingCommunity, play, and connection as nervous system medicineOne of my favorite reminders from this conversation: “Rest is productive.” If you’ve ever wondered why some days you feel clear, social, and energized and other days everything feels like too muchthis episode is for you. Connect with Shara: https://www.instagram.com/growthinherseasons/ Website: https://growthinherseasons.com/ Link to all of her awesome downloads and resources: https://linktr.ee/sharalea?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio&fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQPOTM2NjE5NzQzMzkyNDU5AAGna9XxC6MU_i--FZyOLHU4fPqENmUemrxTQHcxA9NtLu_4GvHZhlG4sulvavc_aem_eB46ADTgPmtFx74qn21_Qw Work with and support Lesha: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/ www.leshanelson.com

In this episode of Nurturing Resilience, host Lesha Nelson speaks with Annalee Muse, a birth worker and doula, about her journey through birth experiences, the impact of societal narratives on birthing individuals, and the importance of community and connection in the birthing process. They discuss the role of spirituality, the significance of birth story medicine, and the need for ritual and ceremony in navigating the complexities of motherhood. Annalee shares her insights on healing from birth trauma and offers advice for expecting mothers, emphasizing the importance of self-compassion and learning in the postpartum period. Main Takeaways: Anna Lee's journey into birth work began after her own challenging birth experiences.The societal narrative often blames birthing individuals for outcomes that are beyond their control.Spirituality and preparation are important, but they cannot guarantee specific birth outcomes.Birth story medicine helps individuals process their experiences and find healing.Community support is crucial for navigating the complexities of birth and postpartum.Ritual and ceremony can play a significant role in honoring the birthing experience.Social media can create unrealistic expectations around birth and motherhood.Healing from birth trauma is a long process that requires time and self-compassion.Expecting mothers should focus on learning how to mother rather than performing perfectly.Acknowledging the gray areas in birth experiences can lead to deeper understanding and healing.Work with Annalee: https://musebirth.com/ https://www.instagram.com/muse.birth/ Work with Lesha: https://www.leshanelson.com https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/ Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to Anna Lee's Journey 02:04 Exploring Birth Experiences and Spirituality 04:05 The Complexity of Birth Narratives 05:57 Navigating Birth Expectations and Reality 09:56 Cultural Perspectives on Birth Outcomes 12:28 The Role of Birth Story Medicine 14:34 Understanding the Nuances of Birth Preparation 20:26 The Impact of Social Media on Birth Narratives 27:25 Earning Worthiness in Motherhood 35:28 Advice for New Mothers in Postpartum 38:44 The Influence of AI on Birth Support 42:30 Environmental Impact of AI and Human Connection 45:18 The Importance of Initiation and Knowledge in Birth 47:50 The Role of Ceremony and Ritual in Healing 49:47 Navigating Spiritual Practices in Birth 53:18 Presence and Authenticity in Rituals 56:17 Preparing for Birth: Personal Reflections and Insights 01:00:51 Processing Birth Trauma and Personal Growth 01:06:52 Unraveling Beliefs Around Birth Experiences 01:11:29 The Journey of Healing and Support in Birth

What happens when the golden hour is missed? When the first imprint we carry is one of separation and rupture- not safety or skin-to-skin? In this episode, we explore the blueprint of connection we’re born with and what’s possible when that blueprint is interrupted. I begin by sharing some personal reflections on being born via C-section and how that shaped my own attachment patterns. Then I’m joined by Briana Georjae, practitioner, doula, and guide, who shares her story of being separated from her mother at birth and the lifelong healing that followed. Together, we explore: When something goes out of plan, how can we shift our perspectives that something happened for us. Recognizing your power can transform experiences.There is a blueprint in nature that can guide us.The innate intelligence runs through all living things.Communication with our life force fosters resilience and understanding our connection to creation is vital.What it means to respond to rupture with power and presence This is a conversation about the places we begin, the patterns we inherit, and the possibility of reconnecting with our bodies, our babies, and the blueprints written in nature itself. About Briana: Briana Georjae serves from the critical need to preserve and foster the innate intelligence of women’s bodies. Within a traditional, intuitive, and woman-led container, she offers herbal consultations, holistic womb care, psychedelic integration, and doula services. Work with Briana: https://www.heirlooms.love/ Work with Lesha: https://www.leshanelson.com keywords: power, response, blueprint, innate intelligence, life force, nature, communication, self-awareness, creation, energy, golden hour, birth trauma resolution

In this rich and revealing conversation, Lesha Nelson and Sena Maria explore the transformative power of Hair Tissue Mineral Analysis (HTMA) and its profound connection to both physiological and emotional health. Sena shares her personal journey from deep depletion to vibrant vitality, highlighting the importance of mineral balancing and the subtle interconnectedness of minerals within the body. Together, they unpack the concept of the calcium shell as a protective mechanism, the mineral-depleting impact of modern diets, and the thoughtful, individualized use of supplements. Their dialogue weaves through the terrain of body image, self-acceptance, and healing, offering insight into how societal pressures shape our inner landscape. With a focus on women’s experiences, they explore the effects of sympathetic dominance, the cost of overriding physical limits, and the influence of birth imprints on long-term health. This episode bridges spiritual seeking with physical grounding, and offers grounded, practical guidance for postpartum mothers—including ways to nourish and restore the body while honoring the deep emotional and energetic layers of healing. Work with Sena Maria: https://www.sena-maria.com/ On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sena__maria/ Work with Lesha: https://www.leshanelson.com On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/

In this podcast episode, Lesha Nelson discusses the Perrin Technique, a method developed by Dr. Raymond Perrin for detoxifying the body and brain. She shares her personal journey through the 12-week program, explaining the importance of the lymphatic and glymphatic systems in health and recovery, particularly for those suffering from chronic fatigue and long COVID. Lesha emphasizes the need for consistency in treatment and the potential benefits of the Perrin Technique for fertility and overall wellness. In this episode:• What the Perrin Technique is and how it works• Why lymph and glymphatic flow matter for detox and recovery• How this method supports Long COVID, fatigue, and potentially fertility• Lesha’s personal experience through the 12-week program Perrin Website: https://theperrintechnique.com/ Lesha's Website: https://www.leshanelson.com/ Chapters 00:00 Introduction to the Parent Technique 00:56 Understanding the Lymphatic and Glymphatic Systems 06:34 The Impact of the Parent Technique on Long COVID 11:09 Personal Journey and Experience with the Parent Technique 16:51 The Importance of Consistency in Treatment 22:21 Exploring Fertility and Women's Health 25:04 Bridging Science and Healing Keywords Perrin Technique, Lymphatic System, Glymphatic System, Chronic Fatigue, Long COVID, Detoxification, Health, Wellness, Craniosacral Therapy, Fertility

In this episode, I’m joined by Rachel of The Root Celler Co., a classically trained homeopath whose work bridges the wisdom of natural law with the tender continuum of pregnancy and postpartum. We talk about: The principle of “like cures like” and how homeopathy works with the body rather than against it. Why suppression (through pharmaceuticals) can create chronic patterns. The law of polarity and the law of correspondence — and how they apply to both individual and collective healing. Pregnancy as a portal where lineage imprints rise to the surface. Postpartum as a fulcrum where mothers attune to both baby and culture. Remedies Rachel turns to that carry deep blueprint energy, including fungal remedies, matrodonal remedies (birth substances), and mammalian milks. Rachel’s reflections reveal why tending to mothers is not just personal care — it is collective healing. Resources & Links: Rachel’s Website: therootcellerco.com Rachel's Instagram: @therootcellerco Lesha's Website: www.leshanelson.com Lesha's Substack: substack.com/@lesha Lesha's Instagram: @lesha__nelson⁠

In this heartfelt episode, I share my personal journey of navigating and recovering from burnout as a birth worker. Through honest reflection, I explore the unique challenges caregivers face in this deeply emotional and demanding field—from the unpredictable schedules to the weight of holding space for others. You’ll hear the turning points that helped me recognize the need for change and the strategies that transformed my approach to work and life. From setting boundaries to integrating nervous system regulation practices, I offer actionable steps to help birth workers create sustainable, aligned careers that honor both their passion and their well-being. Whether you’ve experienced burnout yourself, are feeling the early signs, or simply want to ensure longevity in your caregiving work, this episode is packed with insights, encouragement, and practical tools to support you. Quote shared in episode was by Prentis Hemphill Purchase your very own copy of Replenish + Thrive: a mini workbook for birth and bodyworkers to prevent burnout and secondary trauma https://leshanelson.kit.com/products/replenish-thrive Stay connected with me on IG: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/

Welcome back to another episode of Nurturing Resilience where today we're diving into a fascinating topic that's been buzzing in both medical and alternative health circles: the rise in tongue-ties and changes in oral-facial development. Have you noticed more people talking about tongue-ties lately? Or maybe you've heard about changes in facial structures affecting breathing and sleep? Well, you're not alone. There's been a noticeable increase in these conditions, and today we're going to break down why I think this might be happening. Since my practice has opened 13 years ago I have definitely seen an increase in oral restrictions. I get asked all of the time "why is this happening?" If you know me, you know that I like to answer my clients with the best information I can, and so today I am sharing the top seven reasons (aka rabbit holes) I have found to hold true. In this episode I share the 7 reasons which include: - Processed diets lacking essential nutrients - Increased exposure to environmental toxins - Changes in breastfeeding practices - Genetic factors like MTHFR mutations and folic acid - More sedentary lifestyles - Increased awanress and diagnosis - Changes in our oral habits and development While the exact cause is not fully understood, it is clear the rise in tongue-ties and changes in oral-facial development likely result from a combination of modern lifestyle factors. I talk about what are the factors we can control and what to do to seek help if you are mom struggling with this issue. This is a nuanced topic and I did my best to highlight multiple perspectives and thoughts. The biggest take away is to get help! You do not need to struggle through this alone and there are many people trained specifically to address this topic. Remember, while we're seeing an increase in these conditions, understanding the potential causes empowers us to make positive changes that can affect future generations.

In today's episode, we welcome Anna Jones RN, BSN, not only because of her expertise in birth but to hear her lived experience birthing twins vaginally. Anna's journey as a twin mom who successfully delivered vaginally is not only inspiring but also educational. Her experience challenges the prevailing trends in twin births and offers valuable insights for all expectant mothers and birthing people, twins or not. To provide context, let's look at some statistics: According to the National Institute of Health, 3.4% of pregnancies are twin births. From 1995 to 2008, cesarean rates for twin births increased steadily from 53.4% to 75%. This means that currently, only about 25% of twin births are delivered vaginally, making Anna's experience relatively rare. Anna Jones a registered nurse, birth consultant, & mom of 4 wild boys with a passion for helping mothers feel informed & empowered in their pregnancy, birth, and postpartum experiences. After completing her senior capstone project in the antepartum/postpartum floor & then working as a nurse in labor & delivery, she saw the lack of birth education first hand every day. Seeing others have less than experiences simply because they “did not know” was the fuel behind the creation of her business & personal podcast “A Better Birth”. She is passionate about the enabling women and birthing people to empower themselves with information so they can make confident, informed decisions and have an experience that feels right to them. In this episode, we'll explore the factors that contributed to Anna's successful vaginal twin birth, discuss the current medical practices surrounding deliveries, and examine how informed decision-making can impact birth outcomes for everyone. Anna will share her personal story, including the challenges she faced and the strategies she employed to achieve her desired birth experience. Her story is particularly significant given the statistical trends, and offers a unique perspective on unmedicated birth. What struck me the most about Anna was her her ability to advocate for herself through the entire process. She incorporated food, movement, mindfulness and gratitude into her birth prep which led to the birth she desired. She also strongly advocates for choosing the people you want in the birth room which can make ALL the difference to your experience. Anna is all about empowering people with education and choices so they have the pregnancy, birth and postpartum they desire. You can hear her passion in our conversation and I hope it inspires you to educate and advocate for yourself in your own life and birth. You can reach out to her for consultation services as well as find her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/abetterbirth_/ as well as on her podcast: A Better Birth https://open.spotify.com/show/1Kx5qv9EwJLFhJdZekJ39F?si=12f7d373199e444a You can find me at www.leshanelson.com and https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/ Feel free to reach out to me with any questions and comments and leave a review!

In today’s podcast is interview Ali Guyer. Ali is a certified infant sleep specialist, an occupational therapist and a mom of one (very wakeful baby/toddler). She became certified to help other families navigate sleep after her own anxiety-inducing and confusing journey of deciding whether or not to sleep train her son. From her own experience of living with an anxiety disorder, she wanted to help other families understand the importance of infants experiencing close proximity and responsiveness day and night- to prevent future nervous system dysregulation and mental health challenges. She is passionate about challenging the modern non-responsive sleep practices that are so often encouraged to new parents by family, friends and trusted health providers. I decided to embark on this podcast because one of the most asked questions I get asked in my clinical practice is about sleep and if parents should sleep train. Sleep training typically involves methods like controlled crying or "crying it out," where parents allow their baby to cry for a specified period before offering comfort. The goal is to teach the baby to “self-soothe” and fall asleep independently. But what we know now is that babies that are sleep trained aren’t necessarily “self soothing” but rather shutting down their nervous systems. We also know that babies that are sleep trained are not sleeping better or more compared to babies who are not sleep trained, they are just not responding anymore. Ali decided to deepen her learning and train as a sleep specialist after she was told to not pick up her crying baby which went against all of her instincts. She desired to respond to his cues and found a training that was attachment focused and made more sense to her and her baby’s needs. With sleep specialty Ali helps moms come up with solutions to the baby’s unique signaling and attachment cues for sleep. We also address: Ali’s own story how she got into this work Six states of sleep What is happening physiological with babies during stress and attachment A person’s reactivity to stress is set in the first year of life Understanding low sleep need babies, what are the baby’s needs vs doing the same thing for everyone The sensory system and it’s relationships to sleep Why breastfeeding to sleep isn’t bad And so much more! Book mentioned: What Happened to You by Dr Bruce Perry https://a.co/d/eJL1Twu Connect with Ali website : https://www.nestingowlsleep.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nestingowlsleep/ Isla Grace Sleep Website: https://islagrace.ca/ Work with or connect with Lesha: https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/ My website: https://www.leshanelson.com/ Enjoy!

In this episode of the Nurturing Resilience Podcast I invited a special guest, Jaime Carroll, to delve into the emotionally charged and challenging topic of infertility. Jaime serves as an Education and Advocacy Coordinator at the Utah Infertility Resource Center and is courageously open about sharing her personal journey with primary and secondary infertility, multiple losses, and the joy of finally welcoming her two children into the world through IUI and IVF procedures. This episode takes a deep exploration into the struggles, triumphs, and emotional rollercoaster associated with infertility treatments like IUI and IVF. The conversation doesn't shy away from discussing the heart-wrenching impact of miscarriages and the resilience needed to navigate these tough experiences. In addition to the physical and emotional toll, the societal stigma around infertility is also discussed. We bring to light the often unspoken feelings of guilt and personal shame that individuals and couples combating infertility may experience. This episode seeks to challenge these stigmas and foster understanding and empathy among listeners. Highlighting the core theme of our podcast, we focus on the importance of resilience in the face of these hardships. Jaime's journey is a testament to this, having navigated her way through adversity and emerged 'resilient as f**k'. This resilience has not only seen her through her infertility journey but also played a significant role in dealing with her recent ADHD diagnosis, a topic that we also touch upon in this episode. As we dive into these sensitive topics, it's important to note that this episode includes content that may be triggering for those who have experienced similar difficulties. I deeply care about my listeners and their wellbeing, therefore, I encourage everyone to ensure they are in a supportive and safe environment before tuning in. I hope this episode provides valuable insights, fosters understanding, and perhaps offers comfort to those on similar journeys. Please consider leaving a review, following this podcast and sharing with your friends and family. It is deeply appreciated. To work with me and check out my work: www.leshanelson.com https://www.instagram.com/lesha__nelson/ To work with Jaime and the UIRC: [email protected] UIRC: https://www.utahinfertilityresourcecenter.org/