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Trigger Warning: This episode discusses postpartum psychosis, maternal mental health, suicide, infanticide, child loss, and 9/11. Kail sits down with bestselling author Jodi Picoult for her second appearance on Barely Famous to discuss her 30th novel, Hollow Bones. From the inspiration behind the story and its unexpected connection to My Sister’s Keeper to the extensive research that brings her novels to life, Jodi shares the real-life stories, personal experiences, and surprising details woven into her latest release. They dive into postpartum psychosis and the gaps in maternal healthcare, the importance of preserving stories of loss, book bans and the fight for the freedom to read, and what it takes to write fiction that challenges readers to see the world differently. Plus, Jodi opens up about her research process, the realities of publishing, and her upcoming novel exploring AI companions and chatbots. For more information on how to contact your state reps check out Jodi's website here Get Hollow Bones here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Boll And Branch:  Upgrade your sleep with Boll & Branch. Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at BollAndBranch.com.barelyfamous with code barelyfamous. Dipsea: Go to DIPSEASTORIES.com.FAMOUS for your first week FREE - then 25% off. Home Chef: For a limited time, Home Chef is offering my listeners FIFTY PERCENT OFF and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to homechef.com/barely The Absorption Company: Go to absorbmore.com and enter FAMOUS at check out for up to 35% off your first order. HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famous Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Introducing What If Your Greatest Adversity Has a Purpose? from The Oprah Podcast. Follow the show: The Oprah Podcast BUY THE BOOK! Ahead of All Parting by Barry Michels ⁠https://amzn.to/3TTMT8B⁠ Psychotherapist and bestselling co-author of The Tools, Barry Michels, joins the podcast to discuss his extraordinary new memoir, Ahead of All Parting. This is a conversation for anyone searching for meaning in life’s most difficult moments and seeking to discover how transformation is possible in the face of extreme adversity. Barry has been diagnosed with a terminal brain disease, Lewy body dementia. Despite the inevitable pain and grief that come with a devastating health diagnosis, he now sees it as the path he was meant to walk—a path that has opened him up in ways he never thought possible, revealing the power of vulnerability, love, prayer and the written word. Drew Barrymore, one of Barry’s longtime clients, also joins the conversation to share the life-changing impact he’s had on her life. 00:00:00 - Intro 00:02:14 - Welcome Barry Michels, author of Ahead of All Parting 00:06:35 - Barry speaks on Lewy Body dementia 00:09:20 - Grief after hearing a diagnosis 00:12:18 - When did Barry notice something was off 00:14:14 - Getting a diagnosis 00:16:15 - Adversity has a purpose 00:19:45 - Not hiding after a diagnosis 00:20:25 - Welcome Drew Barrymore 00:23:00 - Drew Barrymore on going through challenges 00:25:50 - Drew Barrymore on watching Barry navigate his illness 00:27:20 - How the diagnosis changed Barry as a therapist 00:28:30 - Appreciating life 00:29:50 - Feeling guilt with a diagnosis 00:38:22: Welcome Alex, who was diagnosed with kidney failure 00:43:22 - Religion during a diagnosis 00:49:20 - Barry Michels on writing 00:54:00 - Barry Michels on seeing his mortality Follow Oprah Winfrey on Social: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/oprahpodcast/ ⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/oprahpodcast/⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/oprah/?hl=en⁠⁠https://www.facebook.com/oprahwinfrey/⁠ Listen to the full podcast: ⁠https://open.spotify.com/show/0tEVrfNp92a7lbjDe6GMLI⁠⁠https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-oprah-podcast/id1782960381 DISCLAIMER: Please note, this is an independent podcast episode not affiliated with, endorsed by, or produced in conjunction with the host podcast feed or any of its media entities. The views and opinions expressed in this episode are solely those of the creators and guests. For any concerns, please reach out to [email protected].

This week on Barely Famous, Kail sits down with Christy Carlson Romano to talk about growing up in the spotlight, becoming the breadwinner for her family, and the complicated relationship with her career that shaped so much of her life. Christy gets candid about child stardom, burnout, financial mistakes, setting boundaries, and the experiences behind her new memoir, Once Upon a Trainwreck: The Fall and Rise of a Child Star. She also shares the terrifying story of being accidentally shot in the face with birdshot while clay shooting, how close she came to losing her vision, and how the experience changed her perspective on faith and motherhood. Plus, Christy and Kail compare the pressures of child stars and reality stars, finding partners who understand life in entertainment, and learning when to say no. Get Christy's Memoir Once Upon a Trainwreck: The Fall and Rise of a Child Star here Follow Christy on Instagram For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry To vote for Barely Famous Podcast in the Signal Awards click here Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Fabletics: Shop now at fabletics.com/barelyfamous to get 70- 80% off everything when you sign up as a new VIP. Nutrafol: right now, Nutrafol is offering my listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you visit nutrafol.com promo code FAMOUS Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/famous and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in‑network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Content Warning: This episode includes discussion of sexual assault, rape, consent, and the Cornell 7 case. Some of the discussion may be upsetting or triggering for listeners. This week on Barely Famous, Kail sits down with Kayla for a conversation that covers everything from a very unfortunate red-carpet wardrobe malfunction to wedding planning, family, adoption, grief, and some deeply personal life experiences. Kayla opens up about her adoption story, reconnecting with her biological siblings, searching for answers about her biological family, and the complicated emotions that came with finally finding her biological mother. She also shares how the losses and difficult family circumstances she experienced this year have shaped the way she’s processing grief and moving forward. Later, Kail and Kayla discuss the Cornell 7 case and the broader conversation surrounding sexual assault, consent, accountability, and the responsibility of bystanders and institutions when they know someone is being harmed, and why they believe conversations about consent and educating young people are so important. For more of Kayla follow her on Instagram For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Shopify: Start your free trial period at shopify.com/famous See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail is back in real time with Ike for a life update that covers everything from tonsillectomy recovery and adjusting to life with celiac disease to their latest trip to Salem. Kail opens up about the emotional side of going gluten-free, why having supportive people around her has made such a difference, and how she’s been spending her time off social media Mid-recording the trailer for her new show, Crashing Out with Kail, has officially dropped. She and Ike talk about filming together, some of Kail’s biggest crash-out moments, and what the experience has been like behind the scenes. Plus, they get into true crime, Kail’s latest obsessions, Ike answers listener questions about his career and whether marriage is in their future, and a viral TikTok sparks a bigger conversation about parenting, relationships, and the invisible mental load. Get Kail’s word search book here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Home Chef: For a limited time, Home Chef is offering my listeners FIFTY PERCENT OFF and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to homechef.com/barely Dipsea: Go to DIPSEASTORIES.com.FAMOUS for your first week FREE - then 25% off. HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with debut author Grace Alexander to talk about her novel The Lowe Job and the scandalous, reality-TV-inspired world behind it. Grace shares how she went from working in finance to writing her first novel during maternity leave, landing a literary agent, and becoming a Book of the Month pick. They dive into the inspiration behind the book’s scandal, the influence of celebrity families and social media, and what it means to turn a public scandal into an empire. Grace opens up about the realities of publishing, writing complicated female characters, finding her writing style, and the pressure of following up a successful debut. Plus, Kail and Grace talk dream casting, UK vs. US book covers, mood reading, favorite authors, and the characters that made The Lowe Job so much fun to write. Purchase The Lowe Job here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Collective: Get compounded GLP-1s for $59 a month from Collective Visit collective.org/FAMOUS The Absorption Company: Go to absorbmore.com and enter FAMOUS at check out for up to 35% off your first order. Arya: Right now, Arya is offering my listeners $10 off your first month at GET ARYA.COM/FAMOUS. This offer is only for my podcast listeners so use my link to get this discount. Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/famous and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in‑network psychiatrist in just a few minutes Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famous Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with Jolly Good Ginger for a conversation about how he went from growing up in rural North Carolina surrounded by racism and conservative Christianity to becoming one of social media’s most outspoken creators. He opens up about joining the military, challenging the beliefs he was raised with, and how one TikTok unexpectedly launched his platform. They also get into the viral “Tea Time” era, walking away from millions of followers when the content stopped being worth the stress, raising kids to think for themselves, parenting in the public eye and the importance of being able to explain why you believe what you believe. Plus, Jolly shares what he’s focused on now and why he believes community involvement matters now more than ever. For more of Jolly Good Ginger follow him on Tik Tok and Instagram For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Get your Fatherless Behavior merch and more here Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Home Chef: For a limited time, Home Chef is offering my listeners FIFTY PERCENT OFF and free shipping for your first box PLUS free dessert for life! Go to homechef.com/barely Nutrafol: Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol nutrafol.com promo code FAMOUS Boll And Branch:  Now’s your chance to change the way you sleep with Boll and Branch. Get 20% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/barelyfamous use code barelyfamous HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with 16 and Pregnant alum Jenn Del Rio to unpack what really happened behind the scenes of her episode and everything viewers never saw. Jenn opens up about becoming a teen mom to twins, escaping an abusive relationship, fighting for custody and unexpectedly finding the man who would help raise her boys. Jenn also reveals how much of her 16 and Pregnant episode was recreated or manufactured for TV and how reality television impacted her real life long after the cameras left. Plus, she shares where life has taken her now: marriage, four kids, farm life, Lupus and the book she’s writing about everything she’s kept private for years. For more of Jenn follow her on Tik Tok and Instagram. For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/famous and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in‑network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com Zenni: Go to zenni.com/podcast and use code PODCAST15 for fifteen percent off your first order, plus free shipping on all US orders over sixty five dollars. The styles sell out, so don't sit on it. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with Ghost Girl author Eva Benefield to discuss the unbelievable true story behind the “Black Swan Murder.” Eva opens up about losing her mom at 14, her dad’s sudden marriage to Ashley Benefield, the years of allegations and custody battles that followed, and the day she learned Ashley had shot and killed her father. Eva shares what it was like waiting four years for the murder trial, testifying against Ashley, and ultimately hearing a manslaughter verdict. She also talks about turning her viral TikTok story into Ghost Girl, building her brand Ghost Cowboy, and why running has become her way of choosing the hard things in life instead of having them chosen for her. To support her business go to ghost-cowboy.com | @evathefreakindiva Eva Benefield on FB get her book here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/famous and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in‑network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. Vinted: ready to clean out your closet and make some extra money? download the Vinted app for free and start listing. With no seller fees, you keep every dollar you earn. Boll And Branch:  Now’s your chance to change the way you sleep with Boll and Branch. Get 20% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/barelyfamous use code barelyfamous HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with Drexann and Zach for a chaotic, hilarious, and eye-opening look at what life is really like with pet monkeys. Drexann shares what goes into caring for Molly Jo, Kelz, and Rain-from diapers, specialized diets, vet care, and round-the-clock feeding to the reality of rehoming exotic animals and dealing with criticism online. They also get into the unexpected drama of the monkey community, why Drexann strongly warns people against getting a monkey just because they’re cute, and how much time, money, patience, and help it actually takes to care for them properly. Plus, Zach explains what it’s been like helping turn Drexann’s monkey-filled life into social media content. follow Drexann on Instagram and Tik Tok for more! Get your Fatherless Behavior Tour Tickets Here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Arya: Right now, Arya is offering my listeners $10 off your first month at GET ARYA.COM/FAMOUS. This offer is only for my podcast listeners so use my link to get this discount. Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famous Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com The Absorption Company: Go to absorbmore.com and enter FAMOUS at check out for up to 35% off your first order. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with Misha, aka Your Bestie Misha, for a conversation about self-worth, sobriety, social media, and learning how to actually show up for yourself. Misha opens up about the moment that changed his life, going from drinking heavily while performing with Cirque du Soleil to getting sober and ultimately building a community of millions online. They talk about his New York Times bestselling book Be Your Own Bestie, the SASS method behind it, setting boundaries, jealousy vs. inspiration, influencer culture, and why self-reflection only matters if you’re willing to make changes afterward. Misha also shares how his childhood experiences shaped the work he does today, what marriage has taught him about balance, and why none of us really have our lives as figured out as we think. Follow Misha on Tik Tok and Instagram Get your Fatherless Behavior Tour Tickets Here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Boll And Branch:  Now’s your chance to change the way you sleep with Boll and Branch. Get 20% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/barelyfamous use code barelyfamous Shopify: Start your free trial period at shopify.com/famous HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com To find the right home for you head to apartments.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail’s work trip turns into a chaotic take-your-kid-to-work day when Elliott joins her in New York. They open up about growing up in the public eye, setting boundaries with strangers, handling hateful comments, and why Kail refuses to stay quiet when her kids are targeted online. The conversation shifts to college plans, sibling relationships, spending the summer apart from Lincoln, and Elliott’s growing passion for theater, filmmaking, writing, and ASL. Plus, Kail shares her unexpected celiac disease diagnosis and begins processing what a completely gluten-free future might look like for herself and a family of nine. Get your Fatherless Behavior Tour Tickets Here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Zenni: Go to zenni.com/podcast and use code PODCAST15 for fifteen percent off your first order, plus free shipping on all US orders over sixty five dollars. The styles sell out, so don't sit on it. Nutrafol: Start your hair growth journey with Nutrafol nutrafol.com promo code FAMOUS To find the right home for you head to apartments.com Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/famous and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in‑network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. Progressive: To get your auto insurance quote head to progressive.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Kail sits down with Kaitlyn Bristowe for an honest and hilarious conversation about leaving reality TV identities behind, building a lasting career, and trusting where life takes you next. Kaitlyn opens up about her move to New York City, keeping her new relationship private, freezing her eggs, and her hopes of becoming a mom. They also get into public breakups, working with friends and family, protecting children in the spotlight, self-worth, body image, Botox, therapy, spirituality, and why getting older might actually be the best era yet. Plus, Kaitlyn shares the emotional experience that shaped her belief in the afterlife, her dream of retiring on a farm, and the unexpected realities of starting over in her forties. Follow Kaitlyn on Instagram: @kaitlynbristowe⁠ TikTok: @kaitlynbristowe⁠ and listen to Off The Vine Podcast Get your Fatherless Behavior Tour Tickets Here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Boll And Branch:  Now’s your chance to change the way you sleep with Boll and Branch. Get 20% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/barelyfamous use code barelyfamous Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/famous and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in‑network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Trigger Warning: This episode discusses pregnancy loss, murder, infant death, violence, and other disturbing details that may be difficult for some listeners. Kail sits down with Wade, Cody, and Stephanie from Netflix’s Maternal Instincts to unpack what the documentary left out and clear up some of the biggest questions surrounding the case. They share new details about the lies, manipulation, fake identities & financial schemes, that happened behind the scenes and explain why the reality was far more complicated than it appeared from the outside. Wade also opens up about how he was portrayed, what viewers didn’t see about his life at the time, and the unanswered questions he still carries years later. Together, they reflect on the aftermath, rebuilding their friendship, and how they’re honoring Reagan and her daughter moving forward. Get your Fatherless Behavior Tour Tickets Here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! The Absorption Company: Go to absorbmore.com and enter FAMOUS at check out for up to 35% off your first order. Arya: Right now, Arya is offering my listeners $10 off your first month at GET ARYA.COM/FAMOUS. This offer is only for my podcast listeners so use my link to get this discount. Zazzle: Right now, save 25% on your first order at Zazzle.com. HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. Hiya: for 50% off their best selling children’s vitamin head to hiyahealth.com/famous NPR: Follow NPR’s It’s Been a Minute podcast and indulge your cultural curiosity. To find the right home for you head to apartments.com See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week Kail sits down with country artist Elijah Scott—the singer, not her baby daddy after a viral internet mix-up convinced millions they share a child. Elijah explains how the confusion reached his actual family, why one of Kail’s sons made the rumor surprisingly believable, and how a random DM turned into this episode. They also talk about his unexpected rise from karaoke to millions of streams, navigating country music as an artist who doesn’t fit the industry’s traditional image, life on tour, and the consistency it takes to turn viral attention into a real career. Follow the REAL Elijah Scott Williams on Tik Tok , YouTube, Spotify and Instagram Get your Fatherless Behavior Tour Tickets Here For full video episodes head to patreon.com/kaillowry Thanks for supporting the show by checking out the sponsors! Talkiatry: Head to Talkiatry.com/famous and complete the short assessment to get matched with an in‑network psychiatrist in just a few minutes. To find the right home for you head to apartments.com Boll And Branch:  For a limited time get 20% off, plus free shipping on your first set of sheets at bollandbranch.com/barelyfamous use code barelyfamous Alloy: Join the 95% of women who tried Alloy and saw relief in the first 2 weeks. Head to MyAlloy.com  and use the code FAMOUS and tell them all about your symptoms, and you’ll get a fully customized treatment plan and unlimited messaging with your doctor. Plus you’ll get 20 dollars off your first order today! Shopify: Start your free trial period at shopify.com/famous HERS: start your initial free visit at forhers.com/barelyfamous. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.