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The Hotshot Wake Up

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212 episodes
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Date created
2022/03/16
Latest episode
2026/10/05
Average duration
54 min.
Release period
8 days

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A podcast and newsletter by firefighters about wildfire and the world. Crew Supervisor and Ex Hotshot overhead. Call it like it is. Monthly Substack subscriptions go towards supporting this content and helping firefighters in need. https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/

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A Conversation With Former Hotshot Superintendent, And Chair Of The Alliance Of Retired Forest Service Fire Leaders, Dan Kleinman. Dan has 40 years of wildfire experience and leadership.
2026/10/05
On today’s show: To Support and Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ A few weeks ago, a letter went out to wildfire agency heads from the Alliance of Retired Forest Service Fire Leaders, advocating for the unification of our nation's wildland firefighters. That letter can be found here. I reached out, and the Alliance Chair, Dan Kleinman, agreed to a conversation about the Alliance’s efforts. Dan has extensive wildfire leadership experience, rivaled by few. Dan Kleinman retired after 40 years in the wildland fire service, including service as a detailed Deputy Regional Fire Director for the U.S. Forest Service (USFS), Pacific Southwest Region, and as an Operations Section Chief with the National Incident Management Organization (NIMO). He began his career with the California Division of Forestry, serving one season before spending the remainder of his career with the U.S. Forest Service. His field and leadership experience included positions as a Firefighter and Module Leader on engine and fuels crews, 12 years on a Hotshot crew including seven years as Superintendent - five years as a Battalion Chief, and five years as a Division Chief on a wildfire-active Ranger District. Throughout his career, Kleinman remained actively engaged in fuels management, including thinning projects and prescribed fire. He maintained prescribed-fire qualifications throughout his career and, for his final 20 years, served as a qualified Prescribed Fire Burn Boss Type 1. Kleinman’s regional and national working-group experience included service on the Regional Safety FIRST Committee and the National Wildfire Coordinating Group (NWCG) Leadership Committee, where he chaired L-580, a leadership-development program designed for senior fire-management and organizational leaders. In 2009, L-580 delivered the first Gettysburg Staff Ride for Wildland Fire Service leaders, a program that continues to be delivered today. Notable assignments included the crash of a top-secret F-117 Stealth Fighter and associated wildfire; the Columbia Space Shuttle recovery and investigation; the response to the Pentagon following the September 11 attacks; and the Hurricane Sandy response in New York City’s Rockaways, where he managed a welfare-check operation across multiple public apartment buildings. At the time of his retirement, Kleinman’s incident qualifications included Incident Commander Types 1, 2, and 3; Operations Section Chief Type 1; Operations Branch Director; Division/Group Supervisor; and Agency Representative. Kleinman remains active with two nonprofit organizations: the U.S. Hotshots Association and the Greenhorn Mountain Veterans Association. He has been married for 39 years and is the father of three adult children. Subscribe now THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
A Wildfire Season Debrief: Director Of The United States Wildland Fire Service, Chief Brian Fennessy. A straight forward conversation about this season and what’s to come.
2026/09/25
On Today’s Show: To Support and Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ The Director of the Wildland Fire Service, Chief Brian Fennessy, started in his inaugural position just 9 months ago, but there is plenty to talk about. We chat about the busy wildfire season, the workforce, and what lies ahead. We dive into budgets, unification, aviation, contracting, the differences between wildfire agency organizational structures, and the most capable and operationally sound wildfire workforce in the world: the wildland firefighters in the United States. What went well? What can be improved? What does the future of wildfire in the United States look like? We cover it all. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
“The System Is Broken.” Frustrations Inside The Forest Service Boil Over As Fire Supervisors Express Fundamental Concerns. All while fire entrapments hit a 20 year record this season.
2026/09/10
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ Frustrations have boiled over within the Forest Service as fire supervisors voice concerns about Agency direction, poor facilities, experienced firefighters leaving the ranks, and infighting with line officers. Wildland firefighter entrapments have hit a 20 year record this season, raising further concern about experience levels in middle management. Unease remains about what the future will look like, and there is urgency to “rip the band-aid off” on plans for Agency change. I cover their concerns as they see it. This is the time for professionals on all levels of the Agency to come together and solve these issues, which ultimately affect the boots on the ground the most. Sometimes voicing these concerns is what it takes for everyone to sit at the table and figure out how to move forward. Change isn't simple, and this isn't an easy situation for anyone involved, but cooler heads must prevail. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
The Politicization Of Wildfire: A Rant. Just Four Wildfires Have Cost Nearly $500M. Wildfire Fatality On The Hawk Fire In Nevada. UTV Rollover Ejection.
2026/08/28
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ Putting out wildfires is hard enough, but the constant tit for tat political grandstanding is wearing on the workforce. I express what I’ve been hearing from the boots on the ground. A classic rant. The Hawk Fire in Nevada announced a fatality this morning. A woman who sustained injuries during the initial day of the fire has passed away. The Nation remains at a PL5, and we are one lightning bust away from all out chaos again. Full operational update. BC wildfire says civilians are stealing their equipment used to protect homes. Alberta wildfire charged over the death of a wildland firefighter on the Jasper Fire. UTV rollover report. Passenger ejected at 30MPH. Plus more. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Congress Holds A Bipartisan Meeting On Wildfires Across The West. What Happens In Those Meetings, Is Progress Being Made, Will We Have Wildfire Amnesia Again? A conversation with Senator Tim Sheehy.
2026/08/10
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ I sat down with Montana Senator Tim Sheehy to discuss the current wildfire situation across the American West. Congress recently held a bipartisan meeting to talk about the fires burning in multiple regions, the devastation in Spokane, Washington, and the need for wildland firefighter support. I ask if this season will be a reckoning for the wildfire system, Congress, and the public, with the amount of fire currently on the ground and the tragic loss so far this year. What happens in these congressional wildfire meetings? Why does it always seem like things are delayed, or remain unchanged? What can be done to better support the boots on the ground, and will we have wildfire amnesia again once the season comes to a close? The Senator addresses all these questions, and more. As you know, Senator Sheehy didn’t hold back. https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
USWFS Director, Chief Brian Fennessy: Unification, Initial Attack, Safety, Workforce Culture, Landscape Resilience Work, Tech, And Misconceptions.
2026/08/07
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ Today I welcome the Director of the United States Wildland Fire Service, Chief Brian Fennessy. As we all know, it’s been very busy up until this point, and there is lots to cover. We discuss the unification of the Department of the Interior wildland firefighters and what that looks like moving forward. Who will do the landscape work? Do we have enough firefighters and resources? We have a conversation about initial attack, full suppression, safety, and the current fire conditions on the ground. Chief Fennessy addresses the many misconceptions about how wildland firefighters operate, and how policy is based on current and expected conditions on the ground. Could the full suppression strategy change if conditions change? Of course. We also dive into modernizing the workforce; this includes not only using new tech, but also updating the aging comms network and dispatch communication network. Plenty to talk about. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Great Basin Goes PL5. Line Medic Saves Life Of Wildland Firefighter In Idaho. Entrapment On Coleman Creek Fire In Oregon. Dozer Burnover In WA, Dozer Rollover In CA.
2026/08/06
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ The Great Basin moves to a PL5, and the Widemouth 2 Fire nears 100K acres. Full National wildfire update. A report about a line medic who made unconventional decisions that led to life-saving measures for a wildland firefighter in Idaho. Reports on the Coleman Creek entrapment in Oregon, the dozer burnover on the Kaiser Canyon Fire in Washington, the Dozer rollover on the Gann Fire in California, and the tender rollover in Idaho. Deputy Chief Sarah Fisher’s statement on the feasibility study to combine firefighters from the Forest Service into the USWFS. Update on the Seven Cabins Fire in New Mexico. As I reported in May, the airplane crash that started the fire happened inside a military GPS jamming testing zone. New details confirm that military operations likely brought down the plane. Full story of the fake paramedic on the Elk Fire in Colorado. It reads like a Tom Clancy novel. Plus more. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Environmental Lawsuits Halted 10s Of Thousands Of Acres Of Fuels Projects In Oregon, That Are Now Burning. Lyons Fire Burnover Report. Timelines Released For Knowles Fire Entrapment.
2026/08/01
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ Full report released for the Lyons Ferry Fire burnover. Comprehensive report details firefighters trying to burn off around themselves before being overtaken by fire. Tens of thousands of acres of fuels treatment and wildfire mitigation projects were halted in Oregon due to environmental lawsuits. Groups sued Mt. Hood National Forest and the Forest Service, which stopped the fuel breaks and fuel reduction projects. Those same project areas are now totally burned. The USFS and USWFS released a timeline report for the Knowles Fire Entrapment in Colorado. France’s Interior Minister announced this week that they had arrested 162 wildfire arsonists in the last 25 days. France has now doubled the previous record for total acres burned. Alaska sends fire crews down to the lower 48. Full operational update. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
The Eyes In The Sky Above Wildfires: Air Attack And Helicopter Coordinators, What They Do, And How To Become One. A conversation with Jon Freeman and Matt Lynde.
2026/07/24
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: 👇https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ Today, Jon Freeman (USWFS) and Matt Lynde (USFS) join the show to discuss everything about wildfire aviation supervision and coordination, and, if you are interested, how to become one. This is a big-picture job, and as they describe, the best job in the industry. As an aviation supervisor, you are basically a flying radio, or 7 radios… and it is a position that takes mental fortitude and operational clarity to keep the aviation dance going, get everyone what they need, and keep folks safe. We also discuss the increasing danger of civilian drones over wildfires, which shut down aviation operations immediately. And lastly, what is the path an individual needs to take to achieve this in their career, the prerequisite qualifications, and classes needed. Jon is currently working in Oregon, and Matt is headed back to California. It’ll be busy until winter. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Ontario Armageddon, Minnesota Mayhem, And The American West Continues To Burn: Wildfire Smoke Headed East, As 3 Fires Cross International Borders.
2026/07/16
On Today’s Show: To support and subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ Three wildfires have crossed the international border of Canada and Minnesota, and hundreds of thousands of acres have burned. 183 new starts across Ontario are expected to burn for weeks. Wildfire smoke will blanket the eastern United States as poor air quality records are already being set. More Minnesota fires merge as firefighters work to access the wilderness fires. Colorado, Utah, Oregon, and California are still seeing wildfire activity. Full operational update. Wildfire aircraft are now hard to come by, as demand for aviation resources continues to increase. Starting the morning campfire in spike camp. It’s easy, but hazardous. Burn injury report. Plus more. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
New Fires In PNW And California As Southern California Moves To A PL3. Tremendous Progress On Fires In Colorado, Utah, And Southwest.
2026/07/11
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ New wildfires are popping up in the Pacific Northwest and California. Southern California moves to a Preparedness Level 3. A lot of progress is being made on wildfires across Colorado, Utah, and the Southwest as containment rises. Containment drops on the Gold Mountain Fire in Colorado as a civilian drone shuts down air resources while trying to catch spot fires. 12 fatalities, 8 injuries, and 36 missing on wildfires in Spain. Authorities say many of the deceased were foreigners who ignored evacuation routes and got caught out in the open. Chainsaw and burn injury updates. What is the Super El Niño going to bring with it? Full operational update. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Full Operational Update For Wildfires Across The West: Colorado Still Very Active And Under Red Flags, Progress Being Made In The Southwest And Utah.
2026/07/02
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ A full operational update of all fires across the nation. Colorado fires expect extreme fire behavior again today. Red flag conditions continue across much of the Region. Progress is being made on most of the fires across Utah and the Southwest. A breakdown of year-to-date wildfire numbers in Utah compared to last year. Less fire, more acres. New Mexico reports the warmest start to a year ever on record. The Transportation Safety Board provided an update on the cause of the wildfire aviation accident in Canada. New study on what keeps people from evacuating a wildfire zone, and overall preparedness. I have been looking for fundraisers for the three firefighters killed on the Knowles Fire in Colorado. Two are available for Emily Barker and Nicholas Hutcherson, and I am still looking to see if there is another for Sydney Watson or the two others injured. Emily Barker Fundraiser Nicholas Hutcherson Fundraiser THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Colorado Declares A State Of Emergency: Nation Moves To A Preparedness Level 4. Full Update On National Wildfires And Agency Updates On The Knowles Fire Burnover.
2026/06/29
On Today’s Show: To Support And Subscribe https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ Colorado has declared a State of Emergency due to the wildfires actively burning across the State. The National Preparedness Level moves to 4. Updates from the USWFS and Forest Service on the burnover event on the Knowles Fire. Wildfires continue to make large runs across Utah. The Pocket Fire in Arizona increases to over 11,000 acres. A conversation about current wildfire conditions on the ground. Plus more. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.
Today, The Forest Service And USWFS Announce New Steps To Reduce Hazardous Exposure To Wildland Firefighters. Decontamination, Smoke Mitigation, Mask Use, And Mop-up Exposure.
2026/06/24
On Today’s Show: To support and subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ The U.S. Department of Agriculture’s Forest Service, along with the Department of the Interior, today announced new steps to reduce hazardous exposure for federal wildland firefighters. These actions include expanded access to N95 respirators on the fireline, required training, and standardized decontamination protocols, such as showers and Nomex cleaning. There is also direction on reducing exposure to extended periods of mop-up. I welcome Erin Phelps, Deputy Director of Risk Management with the Forest Service, to discuss everything in the release. Erin is no stranger to the fireline, working on engines, Hotshot crews, and as a rappeller before taking a more direct role in policy and management. There is a lot to cover, and plenty of questions. Deputy Director Phelps helps answer those questions and provides all the details on what it will look like moving forward. The Hotshot Wake Up is 100% listener and reader supported. No ads, no sponsorships. Thank You.
Nation Moves To A PL3: Human Remains Found After Washington Wildfire. Incendiary Devices Found At Wildfire In Colorado. Wildfire Helicopter Fire During Bucket Drops.
2026/06/18
On Today’s Show: To support and subscribe: https://thehotshotwakeup.substack.com/ The Hotshot Wake Up is 100% supported by the readers and listeners. Thank you. The National Preparedness Level increases to a PL3 Wildfire bust across much of the West. Full operational update. Human remains found after the Upriver Fire in Spokane. Sheriff reports individuals refused to evacuate. Incendiary devices were found by Forest Service firefighters on a Colorado Fire. Also in Colorado, a helicopter lands after a fire in the cockpit while conducting bucket drops. State of emergency declared in Oregon and Washington. Idaho wildfire fund runs out of money. Reports on Rhabdo and burn injuries during the California prescribed burn. Watch Duty back up for Cal Fire personnel. Plus more. THE HOTSHOT WAKE UP — Thank you to all of our paid subscribers. Your support allows us to donate generously to firefighter charities and supports all of our content. You also receive all of our article archives, more podcast episodes, Monday morning workouts, and also entered into our giveaways, plus more.

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4 out of 5
216 reviews
★★★★★
IA Captain 2025/10/10
Some lame crew deciding to get together and post one star reviews? Hmmm
Great interviews and a good show.
★★★★☆
Jd54635435 2025/08/24
Excellent Resource (but unnecessary misleading claims)
“It’s just six bucks.” A claim made repeatedly in every single episode. But it’s $6.99, so constant insults from the host. Dude, drop the $.99 or star...
★★★★★
matt1075 2025/07/06
Good stuff
As a former helitack & hotshot and a father of a hotshot this podcast is great for those that want more than just some wildfire updates. Good intervie...
★☆☆☆☆
Taylor Monney 2025/03/05
(Engine) Slug for Salt
If you’re hoping to hear right wing bootlicking and “I told you so” for hours, this is the show for you.
★☆☆☆☆
betterwhale2497 2025/02/16
Not a real hotshot
This guy is a grifter. The definition of stolen valor and doesn't seem to have any idea of what fire culture actually is.
★☆☆☆☆
Smokey Os 2025/02/16
Not an Expert
Listening to this podcast is like listening to a guy who is on his first day making fry’s at McDonalds try to be an expert at fine dining. His fire ex...
★☆☆☆☆
danechidna 2025/02/16
Poor representation of the Wildland community.
Tim lacks any sense of journalistic integrity. He pushes falsehoods and outright lies. He advocates for slashing hiring at already struggling agencies...
★☆☆☆☆
0Playswithfire0 2025/02/15
Rumor mill and lies/exaggerations
Tim was a firefighter, but Tim is no longer a firefighter. He spreads lies, create riffs in the community, and way over exaggerates just about everyt...
★☆☆☆☆
Dan7788543 2025/02/15
Dude is a poser
He is not a reliable source and is so blatantly biased.
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Eric688727 2025/02/02
This guy is a liar
Lies about his past experience. Spreads misinformation and in general is just a bad podcast. All his inside information is false. He’s just reading pu...
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