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Date created
2022/03/29
Latest episode
2026/10/08
Average duration
34 min.
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Kipp Bodnar (HubSpot’s CMO) and Kieran Flanagan (Hubspot's SVP of Marketing), lead you down the rabbit hole of marketing trends, growth tactics and innovation. On the way you’ll pick up undiscovered strategies to give you that slight edge for success. These are not your typical twitter thread regurgitated marketing tactics that everyone is doing. These are new methods, with unfiltered examination of successful fresh ideas.
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How to Turn Instagram Into a Sales Machine With Muse AI
2026/10/08
Free guide to automate your Instagram marketing with Muse AI: https://clickhubspot.com/dlvm
Ep. 460
“You don’t have a reach problem, you have a repeatability problem.”
Kipp dives into why Meta’s new Muse assistant is the game-changing marketing tool you’re not using to grow your audience and drive revenue from Instagram. Learn more on unlocking deep audience intelligence, turning post engagement into sales opportunities, and building a magical marketing workflow that connects your content directly to customers.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Meta’s Muse https://ai.meta.com/muse/
Grok Bot http://x.ai/news/introducing-grok-bot
Nano Banana https://gemini.google/overview/image-generation/
Apollo http://apollo.io/
Sabrina Ramonov Marketing Against the Grain episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OS4m5Kajt0
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
We Tested What AI Personal Assistants Can Actually Do
2026/10/06
Free guide: how to get AI to recommend your business https://clickhubspot.com/pwcl
Ep 459
Is your next website visitor an AI agent with a credit card?
Kipp and Kieran dive into the explosive rise of personal AI agents and how they're making traditional marketing strategies obsolete. Learn more on how AI agents like Muse, Instinct, and Grokbot are changing the buying process, why marketers must adapt for a world where agents—not humans—are the main customers, and what new marketing strategies you need to stay ahead in the age of delegation.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Meta’s Muse https://ai.meta.com/muse/
Instinct https://instinct.com/
Grok Bot http://x.ai/news/introducing-grok-bot
Claude https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
HubSpot Execs: What Marketing Teams Look Like in 2027
2026/10/01
Get our free playbook to redesign your marketing team in 2027: https://clickhubspot.com/svoh
Ep. 458
Did you know that despite all the noise about shrinking marketing teams, data shows the proportion of marketing roles hasn’t really changed?
Kipp and Kieran dive into the future of marketing teams, why the shape—not the size—of your team is what really matters, and how you can thrive in the new landscape. Learn more on why marketing roles aren’t disappearing, how AI is reshaping teams (not replacing them), and why pod models and zero-to-one marketers are key to the next wave of marketing success.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Claude https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
Codex https://openai.com/codex/
Opus 5.5 https://www.anthropic.com/claude-opus-5-5
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Train Your AI to Write Like a Human With Just 3 Files
2026/09/29
Free: make AI content sound like you (Prompts + 3 Files) https://clickhubspot.com/ilhf
Ep. 457
AI is now a pretty good content creator—and that’s actually a problem.
Kieran dives into why today’s wave of AI-generated content is flooding the internet with sameness, and what marketers can do to stand out from the noise. Learn more on building your own Creative Context OS in just three files, how to teach AI your unique perspective and taste, and the critical difference between content that’s truly “you” versus commodity work everyone else is churning out.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Nicolas Cole, Commodity Content https://artandbiz.substack.com/p/the-right-way-to-write-with-ai
Codex https://openai.com/codex/
Dharmesh Shah linkedin.com/in/dharmesh
Positioning: The Battle for Your Mind https://a.co/d/08UXJ6E1
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
How to Build an AI Marketing Team That Runs Itself (Live Demo)
2026/09/24
(Free) Build your first marketing AI agent: https://clickhubspot.com/lwkf
Ep. 456
Is the CMO role dead in the age of AI-driven marketing?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Cody Schneider (Cofounder of Graphed.com) dive into how AI agents are transforming the marketing landscape, slashing the cost of creative production, and reshaping marketing teams. Learn more on scaling content with AI agents, automating paid and organic campaigns, and how the new world of “marketing engineering” is making one person as effective as a team of twenty.
Mentions
Cody Schneider https://www.youtube.com/@codyschneiderx
Graphed https://www.graphed.com/
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
DaVinci Resolve https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Give Us 30 Minutes & We’ll Fix Your Marketing for 2027
2026/09/22
Build a taste profile that makes your AI output sound like you: https://clickhubspot.com/iflm
Ep 455
Did you know HubSpot lost 140 million visits in a year but still increased demand generation by 20%?
Kipp and Kieran dive into why the old rules of marketing no longer work—and what new playbooks you need to win in the AI era, at HubSpot’s Unbound. Learn more on building a living taste profile, leveraging AI for relentless content creation, optimizing paid ads through creative experimentation, and turning rapid learning into your team's ultimate advantage.
Mentions
Unbound https://unbound.hubspot.com/
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Yamini Rangan https://www.linkedin.com/in/yaminirangan/
Claude https://claude.ai/
Meta Advantage+ https://www.facebook.com/business/ads/meta-advantage-plus
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Zero-Click Marketing: How to Win When Google Stops Sending Traffic
2026/09/17
Free: 15 prompts to keep your brand visible in search https://clickhubspot.com/ikub
Ep. 454
Did you know that today, 68% of all Google searches end without a single click?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Amanda Natividad (founder of Zero Click Marketing, and co-author of the forthcoming book, Zero Click Marketing) dive into the era of zero-click marketing, covering how search behavior is changing, what it means for your company’s growth, and what you must do to thrive. Learn more on evolving beyond Google to meet your audience where they are, rethinking the purpose of SEO in a diversified search landscape, and building lasting value by focusing on the right audience—not just more traffic.
Mentions
Amanda Natividad https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandanat/
Zero Click Marketing https://zeroclickmarketing.co/
Zero Click Marketing (book) https://www.damngravity.com/products/zero-click-marketing
SparkToro https://sparktoro.com/
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Dharmesh Shah: “The New AI Era Will Create Millions of One-Person Businesses
2026/09/15
[Free guide] build your second brain with AI: https://clickhubspot.com/efeg
To get started with YouSpot, go to https://youspot.com/pricing/pro?promo=BRAINTHEGRAIN You'll then see the coupon code automatically applied on checkout.
Ep. 453
Did you know that 86% of all new companies started aren’t expected to hire any employees?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Dharmesh Shah (Founder of HubSpot) dive into the rapidly growing world of one-person businesses and how AI is fueling a new wave of solopreneurs. Learn more on the evolution of the "second brain" for entrepreneurs, how agentic AI harnesses are changing the game, and why rethinking CRMs for solo operators is unlocking new levels of productivity.
Mentions
Dharmesh Shah https://www.linkedin.com/in/dharmesh/
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
YouSpot https://youspot.com/
Agent.ai agent.ai
SecondBrain https://youspot.com/about/secondbrain
Obsidian https://obsidian.md/
Fable 5.1 https://www.anthropic.com/claude-fable-and-mythos-5-1
Go to YouSpot.com and use code BRAINTHEGRAIN at checkout for the special Marketing Against the Grain price.
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
I Spend $400K/Day on Meta Ads. Here's What's Working Right Now
2026/09/10
Free Meta Ad Creative Prompt Pack: https://clickhubspot.com/prgl
Ep. 452
Could your company grow to $20M in revenue in just 20 months by focusing 80% of your ad budget on a single channel?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Danny Yeung (CEO and co-founder of IM8) dive into the marketing strategy behind the explosive growth of IM8 and how Meta became their powerhouse for customer acquisition. Learn more on how to master Meta’s platform with creative-first tactics, build a high-performing marketing team for rapid scale, and leverage offline strategies to make your brand unforgettable.
Mentions
Danny Yeung https://hk.linkedin.com/in/dyeung22
IM8 https://im8health.com/
Prenetics https://www.prenetics.com/
Allianz https://www.allianzlife.com/
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Ask Kipp and Kieran a question!
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Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Is the CMO Role About to Disappear Forever?
2026/09/08
Build your AI marketing department with this Claude skill: https://clickhubspot.com/rlcb
Ep. 451
Is the CMO role dying?
Kipp and Kieran dive into why marketing’s highest seat is under pressure and what founders and marketers should do about it. Learn more on why the expectations for marketing leaders are higher than ever, how the evolution of marketing skills and AI are shaping the talent pipeline, and what strategies companies can use when they can’t find the perfect head of marketing.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
LinkedIn https://www.linkedin.com/
Ask Kipp and Kieran a question!
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Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
I Built a $120K/yr Social Media Funnel w/Claude (Full Demo)
2026/09/03
Turn social comments into leads with Claude + Blotato: https://clickhubspot.com/rkhv
Ep. 450
How can one Reel drive $120,000 in annual recurring revenue for your business?
Kipp, and guest Sabrina Ramonov of Blotato dive into how high-performing social content and automated DMs can be seamlessly converted into real revenue and loyal customers. Learn more on building viral social funnels, the power of DM automation for lead capture and monetization, and why treating short-form video as advertising for your long-form brand is the ultimate growth strategy.
Mentions
Sabrina Ramonov https://www.youtube.com/@sabrina_ramonov
Blotato https://www.blotato.com/
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Claude https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
Ask Kipp and Kieran a question!
https://form.asana.com/?k=U4n5W_3WC2SkQO1bwK8Xzg&d=8587152060687
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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Host Links:
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Kieran Flanagan, https://twitter.com/searchbrat
‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
How I Turned Codex Into My Personal Research Assistant (Matt Wolfe)
2026/09/01
*Build your AI Research Desk in Codex:* https://clickhubspot.com/inyh
Ep. 449
Is informational content on the internet dead?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Matt Wolfe (Future Tools) dive into how you can reclaim hours each week by automating newsletter reading, brand mentions, and industry news updates with your own personal AI system. Learn more on building a custom info dashboard with AI agents, the future of media consumption and creator-business relationships, and how you can leverage open-source tools to create a second brain for your work and life.
Mentions
Matt Wolfe https://www.youtube.com/@mreflow
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
GitHub https://github.com/
Gemini Omni 1.1 Flash https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/technology/developers-tools/build-with-gemini-omni-1-1-flash/
Codex https://chatgpt.com/codex/
Claude https://claude.ai/
Obsidian https://obsidian.md/
Ask Kipp and Kieran a question!
https://form.asana.com/?k=U4n5W_3WC2SkQO1bwK8Xzg&d=8587152060687
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
Claude vs. Human Marketer: Which Is Actually Better?
2026/08/27
Build your AI marketing department with this Claude skill: https://clickhubspot.com/uyon
Ep. 448
Can you really fire your entire marketing team and replace them with AI?
Kieran dives into the reality behind agentic marketing systems by putting an AI-powered marketing “team” to the test for a fast-growth AI company. Learn more on how AI audits and rewrites website copy, tackles product positioning, competes in search and LLMs, and whether these emerging systems can actually outperform the average marketer or just generate average results.
Mentions
Open Source GitHub system https://github.com/Yuzzyuk/marketing-os
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Claude https://claude.ai/login
ChatGPT https://chatgpt.com/
Ramp https://ramp.com/
1Mind https://www.1mind.com/
Ask Kipp and Kieran a question!
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Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
We’re on Social Media! Follow us for everyday marketing wisdom straight to your feed
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
How to Stop AI from Killing Your Critical Thinking w/ David Epstein
2026/08/25
Get our anti-AI slop checklist: https://clickhubspot.com/lhug
Ep. 447
For most people, AI is making your marketing worse. For a select few, it's making it 10 times better.
Kipp and guest David Epstein (author of Range (#1 NYT bestseller) and the new Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better (May 2026)) dive into why AI is creating a wave of “slop marketing” and what marketers can do to protect—and strengthen—their critical thinking in an age of automation. Learn more on proven frameworks for defining the right problems, the power of independent team thinking, and how cutting through complexity helps you deliver clear, remarkable marketing.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
David Epstein https://davidepstein.com/
Inside the Box: How Constraints Make Us Better https://a.co/d/0dSEv0R5
Nest https://home.nest.com/
Scite https://scite.ai/
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
Resource
[Free] Steal our favorite AI Prompts featured on the show! Grab them here: https://clickhubspot.com/aip
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‘Marketing Against The Grain’ is a HubSpot Original Podcast // Brought to you by Hubspot Media // Produced by Darren Clarke.
How to Run a Marketing Agency With 0 Employees ($100k to $1M)
2026/08/20
Free: build a Claude-powered content engine https://clickhubspot.com/mslb
Ep 446
What does it actually take to 5x your solo marketing business in a year using AI?
Kipp, Kieran, and guest Barbara Jovanovic (Founder of Startup Cookie) dive into how top solo marketers are scaling agencies with agentic AI systems, and why most automated LinkedIn content totally misses the mark. Learn more on how agentic systems drive efficiency and scale for one-person teams, the difference between building a real content workflow versus relying on prompts, and why authentic insights—not just automation—are the secret to standout founder-led growth on LinkedIn and X.
Mentions
Loop: Outlearn. Outmarket. Outgrow https://www.hubspot.com/loop-marketing-book
Barbara Jovanovic https://www.linkedin.com/in/barbara-startup-cookie
StartupCookie https://startupcookie.com/
Claude https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT https://claude.ai/
ChatGPT Codex https://chatgpt.com/codex/
Granola https://www.granola.ai/
Buffer https://buffer.com/
Wispr Flow https://wisprflow.ai/
Get our guide to build your own Custom GPT: https://clickhubspot.com/customgpt
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beccabooker 2026/06/15
Loved the episode on Claude
Learning so much from the Claude episode with the code workflow! Fascinating!!!
Nikki4m 2026/06/03
Superficial
I just listened to an episode where data analyst said to doublecheck your work and all the numbers that AI gives you, and the host praised her saying ...
Digital Mully 2026/05/07
Acronym soup & nothing but a plug for hubspot
This show has turned into “throw against the wall and see what sticks” type podcast. Every episode is “tip” that is really a feature of hubspot. 😔
Gustavomun3455 2026/03/13
The perfect podcast for a marketing, director, manager, or CMO
I worked for a personal injury law firm in Los Angeles. We are constantly looking at new ways to market the firm, and I personally am looking for new ...
sloaneebalonee 2025/06/30
AI First, Marketing Second
I used to love this podcast, but lately it is literally nothing but AI. It’s less a marketing podcast, more AI in marketing podcast if we’re being hon...
Lsenick 2025/05/23
Too Good to Speed Up!
Usually I listen to podcasts at 1.5 speed, but not Marketing Against the Grain. They are too informative, too knowledgeable, and so innovative that I ...
AdQueenSuz 2025/04/23
Creative, Insightful, and Packed with Actionable Tips
This podcast is a must-listen for marketers who want to stay ahead of the curve. I’ve learned so many valuable hacks and shortcuts—especially around A...
Kazanov 2024/06/23
Too much talk
The podcast covers good topics. I find it very wordy. Lots of talk about nothing. Sometimes after an hours chapter I am still unsure what is the take ...
sfn177 2024/06/16
A one-of-a-kind podcast!
It’s so unbelievably rare to find a smart, authentic, real marketing podcast. This is it. Inspiring and a joy to listen to.
EugeneOregon ducks 2024/04/25
A Realtor
Your 6 day course topic was amazing, but then again all your shows are very helpful.
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