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Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! Michael Hichborn joins us to discuss recent big news stories such as the Epstein files and announcement of upcoming SSPX consecrations. Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880

Michael Hichborn joins us to discuss recent big news stories such as the Epstein files and announcement of upcoming SSPX consecrations.

Rob and Anthony discuss the Joel Webbon interview, the items discussed in the interview, and react to a Left Cath review of the interview.

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! Anthony Abbate and Joel Webbon discuss contentious issues in our day, focusing on how Christianity and Catholicism intersect with modern challenges. They explore these topics through the lens of religion, debating various viewpoints. The discussion also touches upon biblical interpretations relevant to contemporary society. Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! We discuss two recent articles: one arguing that you should stay at a bad Catholic parish and fight for it, and the other arguing against that.  What will Anthony and Rob decide? Will they agree? Or not? Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880

We discuss two recent articles: one arguing that you should stay at a bad Catholic parish and fight for it, and the other arguing against that.  What will Anthony and Rob decide? Will they agree? Or not?

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! Daniel O'Connor joins us to discuss the deception around aliens, UFO & UAP phenomena, AI, the day of disclosure, and how Catholics should discern the "signs and wonders" of our time within their faith. This conversation emphasizes the importance of a fervent approach to Christianity, highlighting why lukewarm Catholicism is no longer an option for the church. We explore these topics through a spiritual and theological lens, offering guidance for today's challenges. Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880

Daniel O'Connor joins us to discuss the deception around aliens, UFO & UAP phenomena, AI, the day of disclosure, and how Catholics should discern the "signs and wonders" of our time within their faith. This conversation emphasizes the importance of a fervent approach to Christianity, highlighting why lukewarm Catholicism is no longer an option for the church. We explore these topics through a spiritual and theological lens, offering guidance for today's challenges.

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! Why are U.S. cities erupting after recent ICE enforcement actions? We unpack the timeline, the claims, and what a Catholic view of order and justice requires. Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880

Why are U.S. cities erupting after recent ICE enforcement actions? We unpack the timeline, the claims, and what a Catholic view of order and justice requires.

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! Want the truth about where the trad world stands—without the coping or the clickbait? We follow the threads from Bishop Fulton Sheen’s long-delayed beatification, through Cardinal Roche’s letter on the liturgy, to the uncomfortable reality that a so-called youth movement has quietly gone gray. We get honest about what younger men are actually dealing with: a wrecked dating market, credential mills, debt-squeezed housing, and a job landscape warped by visas and offshoring. Against those pressures, endless arguments about documents and labels feel like theater. Tradition doesn’t need to be softer—it needs to be lived. Less quote-mining, more discipline. Less outrage, more parish life. Teach a traditional Catholic life. Live it for a century. Then evaluate the council when the smoke clears. We dive into Roche’s claim that the older books were a concession never intended to grow and hold it up to Benedict’s “mutual enrichment.” On the ground, where both forms coexist, reverence improves, and people discover the old rite without fleeing their parishes. That matters more than any memo. We also sit with Fulton Sheen’s “ape of the Church,” why hindsight on Vatican II is tricky, and why Sheen still draws seekers who are hungry for clarity and beauty. Finally, we talk about Scott Adams and the risk of treating salvation like a hack. Baptism, repentance, confession, and real community are not optional extras. The Sunday obligation protects the habit of belonging when screens tempt us to go it alone. If beauty saves, it does so in the flesh: Mass, meals, laughter, and the steady weight of shared prayer. Join us for a candid, hopeful reset. Subscribe, share with a friend who needs this conversation, and leave a review to help more people find the show. Then tell us: what should a real trad rebrand look like where you live? Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880

Pilgrimage plans, liturgy politics, and a hard reset on what young Catholics actually need—we cover it all with a mix of candor, humor, and concrete next steps. We pull on threads the news won’t: Fulton Sheen’s overdue beatification and how his voice—prophetic about the “ape of the Church” yet obedient—still steadies Catholics who grew up under John Paul II and Benedict XVI. Then we face the consistory and Cardinal Roche’s letter head-on: the reframing of the 1962 Missal as a mere concession, the sidelining of liturgy in favor of talking points, and the disconnect between “evangelization by beauty” and the refusal to protect beauty where it’s already thriving. If worship is the source and summit, it must look, sound, and feel like heaven breaks in.But the centerpiece is cultural honesty. The online trad world is aging. Young men aren’t arguing footnotes; they’re trying to build a life in a hostile economy: debt-heavy degrees, offshored work, H1B competition, locked housing, and a brutal dating market. If “tradition” can’t connect doctrine to jobs, marriage, and parish power, it turns into cosplay. We outline a better way: pair reverent worship with practical formation—mentorship, skills, stable work, local community, and courtship that actually leads to a wedding aisle.Two final cautions keep us grounded. Public “sinner’s prayers” online aren’t sacraments; pray for souls and cling to the ordinary means of grace. And race rhetoric is acid to the heart; culture matters for marriage and family, but Catholics can’t train themselves to despise their neighbors. Guard your speech, serve your parish, and measure every hot take against the Beatitudes. Want in on the pilgrimage or just craving a conversation that treats your life as real? Hit play, subscribe, and share this with a friend who needs both truth and hope.

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! A war budget doesn’t come with a press release that says “war.” It shows up as numbers that don’t make sense for peace, and as a mood you can feel in the news cycle. We trace that mood back to two big ideas that shaped the post–Cold War mindset: the liberal belief that institutions can tame power, and the realist insistence that nations ultimately act for themselves. Using Francis Fukuyama’s End of History and Samuel Huntington’s Clash of Civilizations as guideposts, we sketch how the old order frayed and why cultural blocs—religion, memory, language—may reshape the map more than trade agreements ever did. From there, we dig into Ukraine as a harsh teacher: drones over doctrine, trenches over glossy strategy decks, and the stubborn reality of industrial bottlenecks. Can the U.S. rebuild munitions capacity fast enough? What happens when defense contractors get pushed from buybacks to production and the state edges toward a “command economy” posture without formally declaring it? We explore how sovereignty, logistics, and frontier tech like AI become national-security terrain—and why markets shift when mission logic takes over. Europe’s identity crisis threads through it all. A continent that once exported Christianity now struggles to define itself amid demographic change and civilizational tension. We consider what realism predicts for Europe, Russia, and the U.S., and how domestic fractures—censorship battles, CBDC talk, and culture-war fatigue—complicate strategy at home. Yet there’s a human counterpoint here: we share details for our Italy pilgrimage, why we’re keeping it small, how we’ll pray together, and a moving note from a Protestant listener reconsidering Mary through biblical typology. It’s geopolitics with a soul, grounded in faith, community, and the stubborn hope that meaning outlasts headlines. If this conversation challenged your assumptions or clarified the stakes, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review. Then tell us: which lens explains the world better right now—liberal order or realism? Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880

It feels like the world is slipping its old skin. The postwar order promised stability through institutions, trade, and liberal democracy—and then ran headlong into culture, religion, and power. We unpack why those fault lines matter right now: Fukuyama’s “End of History,” Huntington’s “Clash of Civilizations,” and the uncomfortable ways their ideas echo in Ukraine, Europe’s identity crisis, and America’s defense build-up.We talk frankly about an exploding Pentagon budget, pressure on contractors, and what a creeping wartime command economy really signals. If your supply chains run through rivals, if your munitions lines are slow, if your energy is fragile, deterrence becomes theater. We explore how two decades of counterinsurgency left the West unready for attrition, drones, and industrial-scale logistics—and why that matters far beyond headlines. This isn’t cheerleading; it’s an honest look at costs, risks, and timelines.But politics alone can’t explain the ache under the surface. Civilizations are built from stories, rituals, and faith, not just rules and markets. When meaning collapses, people reach for identities strong enough to bind them. That’s why Europe’s cultural drift, mass migration pressures, and loss of confidence feel like more than policy failures—they’re spiritual. We share a practical path that resists despair: invest in parishes and friendships, relearn skills, protect families, care for priests, and live the liturgical year with intention. Resilience starts close to home.If you’re trying to make sense of Ukraine, NATO, energy security, AI, reindustrialization, and the rising talk of great-power conflict—without losing your soul—this conversation is for you. Listen in, argue back, and take what helps you build where you stand. If this episode resonates, share it with a friend, subscribe for more, and leave a review to help others find the show.

Want to reach out to us? Want to leave a comment or review? Want to give us a suggestion or berate Anthony? Send us a text by clicking this link! The spark was small—a tweet from Bishop Barron about synodality and doctrine—but the questions behind it are huge: What should a synod actually decide? How did “the spirit of Vatican II” turn into perpetual uncertainty? And why are everyday Catholics still getting side-eyed for kneeling at communion? We open the hood on a consistory that could reset expectations, sift Barron’s argument for what it gets right and wrong, and get painfully practical about reverence, freedom, and pastoral authority. Along the way, we share a happier twist: a priest reached out and offered to accompany our Italy trip, making daily Latin Mass not only possible but likely across private chapels in Rome and beyond. That momentum matters. People don’t want liturgical roulette; they want beauty, clarity, and worship that deepens faith. The pastoral playbook that treats piety as a problem is wearing thin, and that comes into sharp focus with a diocese banning portable kneelers for the elderly and Jonathan Roumie describing how he was told to stand when he tried to receive on his knees. Reverence isn’t performance; it’s love braving friction. We don’t dodge the tough map either. Under Francis, a common foe united disparate trad corners. Under Leo, the tone is calmer, but the doctrinal direction still worries many. Could a non-territorial jurisdiction—an ordinariate-style solution with bishops from traditional communities—offer stability without schism? Maybe. Or maybe it risks a new ghetto unless leaders honor what’s already law: the right to kneel, the right to receive on the tongue, and the call to worship God with proper solemnity. We’re watching the consistory, reading the dubia, and building something constructive: a pilgrimage ordered to daily prayer and the Eucharist. If this conversation hits home, follow the show, share it with a friend who cares about liturgy and clarity, and leave a quick review. Your feedback helps more people find thoughtful Catholic conversations that aim higher. Support the show GoFundMe for Catholic couple in need: https://gofund.me/314382e0d Check out our new sponsor, Nic Nac, at www.nicnac.com and use code "AB25%" for 25% off! Want the best potato chips in the world? Head over to fatthins.com and use code AB10 for 10% off! ******************************************************** Please subscribe! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKsxnv80ByFV4OGvt_kImjQ?sub_confirmation=1 https://www.avoidingbabylon.com Merchandise: https://avoiding-babylon-shop.fourthwall.com Locals Community: https://avoidingbabylon.locals.com Full Premium/Locals Shows on Audio Podcast: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1987412/subscribe RSS Feed for Podcast Apps: https://feeds.buzzsprout.com/1987412.rss Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/AvoidingBabylon 🎙️ New to streaming or looking to level up? Check out StreamYard and get $10 discount! 😍 https://streamyard.com/pal/d/6029316625530880