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Exploring Tolkien is a weekly show that dives deep into JRR Tolkien and all the ages of Middle-earth. Jonathan Watson and Michael Grumbine are your hosts as they read through Tolkien’s works, interview other Tolkien enthusiasts and authors, and critically examine how Tolkien’s world is being treated by mega-corporations like Amazon.com and Warner Bros.
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172. Morgoth’s Curse was the FIRST Ring of Power : Children of Húrin #9
2026/09/29
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This week, we look at the second half of The Children of Húrin Chapter 6 and discuss the manifestation of Morgoth’s curse. We discuss Morgoth’s shadow… this “mist” that operates curiously like the One Ring, weaponizing Túrin’s pride against him right when he has the chance to accept grace and redemption. We also look at:
Why Beleg is the only messenger to keep searching for Túrin when all others gave up, and the true power of his friendship.
The moment Túrin realizes his own pride and shortcomings… and does nothing about it.
The points where Tolkien reveals Morgoth’s shadow taking over Túrin right when he is about to repent.
How Túrin’s own pride creates the open wound that Morgoth’s curse infects and manipulates.
In our extended episode (available for members who’ve downloaded the Exploring Tolkien app and at https://theonering.com/members), we get into:
The Rings of Power rumor that Sauron needs a Balrog to forge the One Ring completely misunderstands Tolkien’s lore and the true nature of Balrogs.
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The Silmarillion
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Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
171. Forsaking Elves for Outlaws : Children of Húrin #8
2026/09/17
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Túrin Turambar has officially abandoned the protection of Doriath, choosing instead to live as an outlaw among murderers and cutthroats. In our breakdown of the first part of Chapter 6 of The Children of Húrin, we explore Túrin’s tragic descent into darkness, his absolute refusal to live under anyone else’s law, and how a deadly “accident” turns him into the captain of the Wolf-Men.
We also look at:
How Túrin’s slaying of Forwëg perfectly mirrors the tragedy of Saeros in Doriath. Ú
The fascinating real-world Anglo-Saxon history behind Tolkien’s “Wolf-Heads.”
The exact moment in the lore where Tolkien paused writing The Silmarillion to start The Lord of the Rings.
Túrin’s Toll & Titles: Adding new names and fresh victims to our running tally!
Plus, a quick “look” of the Rings of Power DVD release and great news about J.R.R. Tolkien’s favorite pub reopening.
In our extended episode (available for members who’ve downloaded the Exploring Tolkien app and at https://theonering.com/members), we get into:
Is Túrin good? We debate his morality and choices
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The Silmarillion
Unfinished Tales
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The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
170. Tolkien's Only Courtroom Drama : Children of Húrin #7
2026/09/02
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In this episode, we explore an incredibly rare event in Tolkien’s legendarium: a formal Elven trial. We examine King Thingol’s judgment of Túrin after the death of Saeros, uncovering how law, evidence, and mercy operate in Doriath. We also look at:
How Mablung’s testimony and Nellas’s surprise appearance shifted the king’s verdict.
The evolution of Thingol’s character since his harsh treatment of Beren.
Túrin’s growing list of titles and his first official toll.
Why The Rings of Power repeating “the very” over 30 times highlights poor writing.
In our extended episode (available for members who’ve downloaded the Exploring Tolkien app and at https://theonering.com/members), we get into:
User comments on Beleg’s sword choice
Son of Mowen vs Son of Húrin
Why writers like Damon Lindelof fundamentally misunderstand how to adapt source material — particularly when it comes to what fans ACTUALLY want.
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The Children of Húrin
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The Silmarillion
Unfinished Tales
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🔍 If You Like Tolkien
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook)
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The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
Túrin's Fatal Arrogance : Children of Húrin #5
2026/08/18
Get the Exploring Tolkien App to listen to every episode, a Tolkien calendar, the latest news, and member exclusives! Túrin Turambar in Doriath transitions from Thingol’s foster son to a hunted outlaw. Does the fatal insult from Saeros, Túrin’s explosive reaction, and the brutal, naked chase through the woods change his destiny forever? Or is this Morgoth’s curse at work? We also discuss:
The litany of imprudent choices as Túrin (and others) ignore the advice of those around them.
The stark contrast between how Elves and Men process grief, maturity, and the passage of time.
Saeros’s unprovoked ambush in the woods and his ultimate, fatal leap into the rocky stream. Is Mablung to blame?
In our extended episode (available for members who’ve downloaded the Exploring Tolkien app and at https://theonering.com/members), we get into:
Maybe the Orcs DID actually write poetry (in the Hobbit)?
Does the Balrog ACTUALLY speak?
Maybe Rings of Power’s Nazgnagols are right?
🎉 To get the extended episode, become a member using our Exploring Tolkien app, or become a member at https://theonering.com/members ($4/mo and free for the 1st month). 🔗 Episode Links Get the Exploring Tolkien App! The Children of Húrin The Story of Kullervo The Silmarillion Unfinished Tales 🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast Subscribe on Apple Subscribe on Spotify Get the Exploring Tolkien App Get the Extended Podcast 🔍 If You Like Tolkien The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook) The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book) The Silmarillion The Children of Húrin The Atlas of Middle-earth Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
168. Orcs Writing Poetry and Galadriel's Love Triangle - The Rings of Power News
2026/08/05
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Is The Rings of Power Season 3 course-correcting—or just running out the clock? In this episode, we wade through two weeks of Comic-Con news and leaks, catching all the ways Amazon’s show is retooling, rewriting, and ruining Tolkien’s world. From the much-maligned Harfoots’ quiet removal to a new class of “Nazgnagol” proto-wraiths and the baffling “Balrog teaches Sauron” rumor, we break down what’s actually changing (and what’s still totally bonkers).
We also look at:
The accelerated release schedule and what it means for viewers (and podcasters)
The “dismal retreat” – showrunners’ subtle admissions about failed seasons
The orc who writes poetry and the continued humanizing of evil that breaks Tolkien’s world
Galadriel’s love triangle with Sauron and Celeborn—officially confirmed. Good lord.
How the focus on spectacle and “member berries” misses Tolkien’s core themes
In our extended episode (available for members at https://theonering.com/members), we dig into:
Why blurring good and evil undermines Tolkien’s moral universe
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The Children of Húrin
The Story of Kullervo
The Silmarillion
Unfinished Tales
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Get the Exploring Tolkien App
Get the Extended Podcast
🔍 If You Like Tolkien
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook)
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book)
The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
167. Pride Comes Before the Thrall : Children of Húrin #5
2026/07/21
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Is Morwen heroic, tragic, or just stubborn to a fault? We’re on to chapter 4 of The Children of Húrin, exploring how pride, fate, and Morgoths curses shape the next generation after the Nirnaeth Arnoediad. We unpack why Morwen refuses help, howt fate and free work in tandem, and how Túrin’s story is already marked by sorrow and legacy.
We also discuss:
Whether Morwen’s choices are shaped by pride or the curse of Morgoth—or both
Why Tolkien spends so much time on the theme of charity and nobility in hard times
The meaning of the Helm of Hador and why Thingol reveres it
Sador’s role as a substitute father and teacher for Túrin when Morwen won’t speak
In our extended episode (available for members who’ve downloaded the Exploring Tolkien app and at https://theonering.com/members), we get into:
Andy Serkis’s defense of The Hunt for Gollum’s casting and the use of AI on set
First glimpses of the new Gandalf in The Rings of Power—and what we make of it
How modern adaptations handle mythology, diversity, and audience immersion
Tolkienian pride—from Morwen to modern filmmakers
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The Children of Húrin
The Story of Kullervo
The Silmarillion
Unfinished Tales
🎧 Subscribe to our Podcast
Subscribe on Apple
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Get the Exploring Tolkien App
Get the Extended Podcast
🔍 If You Like Tolkien
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook)
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book)
The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
166. Is Evil Really in Control : Children of Húrin #4
2026/07/07
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Is evil REALLY in control? Tolkien pursues this in this chapter–for the first and only time Morgoth reveals himself in a long discussion… and the results are….? We dissect this showdown on a hill of bones and discover why it is unlike anything else in Tolkien’s works, what it reveals about free will, evil, and despair, and how Húrin’s stubborn defiance sets the stage for all the tragedy to follow.
We also cover:
Brandon Sanderson’s “five ingredients” for epic fantasy
The real meaning behind Morgoth’s boasts about fate and power
Where Tolkien slips myth, theology, and “eucatastrophe” right into the dialogue
Free will or predestination… is there an answer here?
In our extended episode (available via our Exploring Tolkien App or for our site’s members–), we go deeper on:
Did Tolkien “ruin” fantasy by setting too high a bar? Why so much modern fantasy struggles in his shadow
How much control did Morgoth really have over Húrin (and Turin)?
More listener questions: the flame from Fingon’s helm, the Doom of Mandos, and the limits of fantasy as a genre
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Image Credit: The Words of Húrin and Morgoth by Alan Lee
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The Silmarillion
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🔍 If You Like Tolkien
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The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
158. An Interview with Bernard Hill (Théoden)
2026/06/25
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This is my favorite interview from the December 2, 2003 roundtable discussions for The Return of the King! Bernard Hill was such a real, genuine, and engaged personality. He had great stories from the set, from time spent with James Cameron, and how much he found joy in his home and horses. And he really like the iPod I used to record this interview! 😂
He also discusses:
How he helped shape iconic scenes, including the “spears” charge at Pelennor Fields
The collaborative script process and what it revealed about the making of LOTR
Bernard’s own shire: restoring a wildflower meadow and building his haven in Suffolk
In our extended episode (available via our Exploring Tolkien App or for our site’s members–), we go deeper on:
New app features–including Word of the Day feature and trivia
How you can join the conversation, give feedback, and win giveaways
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The Children of Húrin
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The Silmarillion
Unfinished Tales
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🔍 If You Like Tolkien
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook)
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book)
The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
164. A Glimmer of Hope Through the Eyes of Death : Children of Húrin #3
2026/06/09
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“Day shall come again”–but for now, it’s the Battle of Unnumbered Tears. In this episode, we walk through Chapter 2 of The Children of Húrin a breaking down Tolkien’s bloodiest, most tragic battle. We cover the epic (and doomed) alliance of elves, men, and dwarves, the double-cross by the Easterlings, and why Morgoth’s victory still leaves him filled with dread. And we even get the Pope involved!
We also look at:
Why the elves’ greatest host could never stand against Morgoth—and what the battle’s tactics reveal about Tolkien’s “epic history” mindset
The legendary valor (and fate) of Húrin and Huor—plus the prophecy that links Gondolin to Morgoth’s ruin
Tolkien’s use of prophecy, fate, and heroism: why the darkest chapter is full of hope for the future
The difference between Tolkien’s approach to battles and the modern appetite for nonstop action
In our extended episode (available via our Exploring Tolkien App or for our site’s members–), we go deeper on:
Listener comments about tragic foreshadowing, and Turin’s nature.
More LEGO Lord of the Rings
Why pop culture’s take on Tolkien struggles with the deeper logic of Middle-earth
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The Children of Húrin
The Story of Kullervo
The Silmarillion
Unfinished Tales
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Get the Exploring Tolkien App
Get the Extended Podcast
🔍 If You Like Tolkien
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook)
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book)
The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
163. The Most Tragic Middle-earth Childhood : Children of Húrin #2
2026/05/26
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Turin’s tragic journey starts here. In this episode, we examine the opening chapter of The Children of Húrin, exploring the foundational relationships and lineage that shape Turin’s fate. Why does Tolkien focus so much on houses and kin? How does the friendship with the crippled servant Sador color Turin’s early years? We unpack the narrative roots of tragedy, prophecy, and the fraught bond between elves and men.
We also look at:
What Tolkien’s “fire” actually means when describing Húrin
The rare, uneasy alliance between elves and men in the First Age
How tragedy marks Turin’s family from the very beginning
Giving, pity, and the early signs of Turin’s character—before everything goes wrong
In our extended episode (available via our Exploring Tolkien App or for our site’s members–), we go deeper on:
The roles of Morwen and Húrin—and how their contrasting natures shape Turin’s destiny
Tolkien’s craft: why his metaphors never just describe, but also worldbuild
Why houses and heraldry matter so much in Middle-earth’s oldest tales
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The Children of Húrin
The Story of Kullervo
The Silmarillion
Unfinished Tales
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Get the Exploring Tolkien App
Get the Extended Podcast
🔍 If You Like Tolkien
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook)
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book)
The Silmarillion
The Children of Húrin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again – Tengwar Hat
162. Morgoth’s Curse and the Pride of Men : The Children of Húrin #1
2026/05/12
We finally return to Tolkien’s First Age for a new deep-dive series on The Children of Hurin.
161. Tolkien's First Tragic Tale : The Story of Kullervo
2026/04/28
The Story of Kullervo was likely the earliest inspiration for one of Tolkien's greatest stories -- The Children of Húrin.
160. Did Peter Jackson make Saruman too Powerful? : Film Change #49 and #50
2026/04/14
This episode tackles two more changes from Peter Jackson’s Fellowship of the Ring—Saruman orchestrating the storm on Caradhras, and the missing warg attack in Hollin. We break down how these adaptations simplify Middle-earth, debate whether Saruman’s powers go too far, and discuss what’s lost when the mountain itself isn’t an antagonist.
We also examine:
Why Jackson condensed multiple threats into “just Saruman and Sauron”
The cinematic potential of Gandalf’s fiery defense against spirit wargs
Aragorn’s warnings vs. Saruman’s prophecies—and who really drove the Fellowship's next moves
What removing the Hollin warg attack means for Sauron’s reach in the story
In our extended episode (members at https://theonering.com/members), we dive into:
News about Tolkien’s rare books and LOTRO’s new expansions
Listener comments over Boromir’s character moments on the slopes of the Misty Mountains
The fated 5 seasons of The Rings of Power
What’s next for the podcast (Children of Húrin, Kullervo, and maybe Lord of the Rings itself)!
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The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (audiobook)
The Expanded Letters of JRR Tolkien (book)
The Silmarillion
The Fall of Gondolin
The Children of Hurin
The Atlas of Middle-earth
Make Tolkien Great Again - Tengwar Hat
159. Boromir's Slippery Slope : Film Change #48 (and Stephen Colbert's Lord of the Rings movie!?)
2026/03/31
Boromir handles the Ring, and Stephen Colbert handles a movie script.
159. One DOES Simply Walk Into Mordor : Film Changes #46 and #47
2026/03/18
In this episode, we dig into two crucial scenes: the iconic formation of the Fellowship and the bridge-side tryst between Aragorn and Arwen.
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Elirexnihilo 2026/07/30
Two white guys talking about Tolkien
I looooooooooooove these guys! The hobbit and movie changes series were great. I also hate rings of power so again, great!!!!
Conchobar Schmidt 2024/10/08
Quality decline
Production quality has suffered, making it difficult to listen to.
LerTy14 2024/08/13
Become a Member!
Fell into this podcast a couple months ago after the glowing review of the greatest show ever made, episode aired early April. This episode started my...
someone else took my name 2024/08/05
If You Like Tolkien
Best podcast to both escape into fantasy worlds and explore philosophy most applicable for today. No longer a freeloader. Definitely worth the $4.
JohnTuttleIII 2024/04/19
Great podcast for Tolkien lovers
I enjoy listening to you guys talking about your love of all things Tolkien
TicciToby????? 2023/11/01
Phenomenal.
In a world that seems intent on subverting Tolkien’s stories, it’s incredibly refreshing to hear Michael, Jonathan and Dan appreciate Tolkien’s world ...
dani_california 2023/09/01
I sub-create because I am created.
These guys are better than any literature class I ever took! They are appreciative of Tolkien’s work and knowledgeable about him as a writer and a man...
kwillis90355 2023/01/11
Best Read Through Podcast for Tolkien!
Best Podcast for a read through of The Silmarillion!!
PastorDarylMessina 2022/12/03
This is FANTASTIC!
Easily the best chapter by chapter read through of the silmarillion that I’ve found. Great insight, usually stay on track. Overall awesome!
DreamNomad 2022/10/29
Funny, In Depth, Entertaining
Three guys from very different backgrounds and a mutual love for Tolkien! I love how they are always respectful and thought-provoking, and show me thi...
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