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Sass returns and Erica joins for a random episode about a very hot TV show. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Special Guests Oak Miller and Steve Tursi join Bob and KJ to talk about their race at the 2026 St. Croix 40 Winter Ultra, including our very interesting experience having a Juicy Lucy before the race. Museum lovers fear not, there is much talk about Paisley Park at the end! Some alternate title suggestions from the AI: The Great St. Croix Saunter: A Winter AdventureFrom DNF to Victory: The St. Croix Saunter ExperienceWinter Ultra Shenanigans: Gear, Burgers, and FriendshipRoller Coasters and Race Prep: A Winter Ultra JourneySurviving the Chill: Insights from a Winter Ultra MarathonSledding Shenanigans: Tales from the TrailHeadlamps and Hills: A Journey of Endurance Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Scott Kummer of Ten Junk Miles joins Bob & Kevin to recap the 14th Annual Torchy’s Run and talk about winter ultras in advance of Bob & Kevin wandering in the snow at the St. Croix 40 winter ultra next month. There is museum chat, professional wrestling chat, and Kevin gives us his breakdown of the Taco Bell 50K and the Devil Dog 100. Please consider making a donation to Band of Runners here: https://donorbox.org/14th-annual-torchy-s-taco-run Check out the Ten Junk Miles podcast available on the your favorite podcast platform, or find it here: https://tenjunkmiles.libsyn.com/website Come run one of the TJM races in 2016! Registration is open for all 3 races: Sugar Badger: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=127092 Badger: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=128933 Dot’s Last Standing: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=130317 Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Bob & Kevin had almost no planned topics and somehow still got sidetracked, a lot. Kevin blindsides Bob with a complex question about iconic ultras. Please excuse my hoarse voice. Please consider making a donation to Band of Runners here: https://donorbox.org/14th-annual-torchy-s-taco-run Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Paul Fortunato returns to share his tale of his recent finish at the No Business 100. Kevin talks about his finish at the Rim to River 100. Bob details his failure to beat his neighbor at a local 5K. We also have some opinions about Pie. Please consider making a donation to Band of Runners here: https://donorbox.org/14th-annual-torchy-s-taco-run Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

KJ ran Woodstock Warrior, we crewed the Wasatch 100, I volunteered at Last dot Standing, KJ convinced Bob to buy Janji and we both have a museum story (kind of) & more! Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

So, we thought this would come out before the swap cast – we were wrong Injuries, GLP-1’s, Costco, Dry Needling, 100 mile pace groups, and carbon plated walking boots? Bob’s TeamRMHC (Ronald McDonald House Charities) fundraising link: https://give.rmhc.org/fundraiser/5879512 Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

Over Badger weekend Bob and KJ sat down with Joe, Shae, and Kevin of the Where’s the Finish? podcast. This is a swap cast! If you listened to this episode on the WTF? feed this is the same one, but we certainly appreciate if you download it from here too! Where’s the finish podcast: https://www.wheresthefinishpodcast.com Bob’s TeamRMHC (Ronald McDonald House Charities) fundraising link: https://give.rmhc.org/fundraiser/5879512 Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

The Volo Museum, Kettle Moraine 2025, great aid station items, and bad (great) ideas. Bob’s TeamRMHC (Ronald McDonald House Charities) fundraising link: https://give.rmhc.org/fundraiser/5879512 Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

Special, special guest Paul Fortunato joins us to defend his honor as a runner after finishing the Potawatomi Trail Races 200. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

Back to our regular schedule after we had to cancel last month’s episode (thanks KEVIN). We meander a bit on this one, but don’t worry, we hit Museums and tablets, just what you were coming here for! We discuss a pair of runs around Washington D.C. and Manhattan in this episode, if you’d like to follow along with the route description find the maps here: https://www.racetheperimeter.com Bob and Kevin have a lovely chat about the Field Museum in Chicago. Do we talk about running at all? Only one way to find out! If you’re downloading today, a reminder that the Swammie Shuffle is going on right now with runners on day 5! To support the Swammie Shuffle and help out some extraordinary organizations doing great work to help our veterans and their families please consider a donation to Awareness N Action https://awarenessnaction.org/ and Mission 22 https://mission22.com/. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

Bob and Kevin have a lovely chat about the Field Museum in Chicago. Do we talk about running at all? Only one way to find out! If you’re downloading today, a reminder that the Swammie Shuffle is going on right now with runners on day 5! To support the Swammie Shuffle and help out some extraordinary organizations doing great work to help our veterans and their families please consider a donation to Awareness N Action https://awarenessnaction.org/ and Mission 22 https://mission22.com/. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

Ice in Virginia, Swammie Shuffle, running clothes, KJ ran a fatass 50k, long run nutrition, Bob’s recovery, and wrap it up with some takes on the WSER lottery, because we can’t help ourselves. To support the Swammie Shuffle and help out some extraordinary organizations doing great work to help our veterans and their families please consider a donation to Awareness N Action https://awarenessnaction.org/ and Mission 22 https://mission22.com/. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

John Krause, creator of the long running Motivation Theory Running YouTube channel, joins Bob & Kevin to chat about his experience at the Devil Dog 100 and his life in ultras. Check out Motivation Theory Running on YouTube – Motivation Theory Running – YouTube Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Will Kevin run Devil Dog 100? What are our favorite gear items? Are the recent Strava changes to the API actually an issue? Why don’t we have more heels in pro ultrarunning? Bob and Kevin kind of answer some of these questions. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith