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It's the September-ish show, technically only 6 days late, and we make up for missing museums on the last episode: KJ's Twenty Mule Borax stop in Death Valley (next to a golf course nobody should play in 120 degrees), the Clyfford Still Museum that keeps nearly all its art in storage, and Bob's work trip to Trondheim, where King Olaf is missing, the airport hotel welcomes you to Hell, and the flight home goes from Hell to the other hell, O'Hare. Then Nike's three new super shoes, Bob cracking two hundred pounds and wondering if that counts as a PED at the Reindeer Run, and KJ's not-good September: a knee tweak eight days out, a conga line up the first climb, hail on the jeep road, Steve refusing to let him drop until he'd gone farther than Bucket Hat Bob, and a drop at Dry Lake that gives the show a 100% DNF rate at Run Rabbit Run. We wrap with MRI scheduling chaos, a retired CPAP, and a rant about not tolerating mediocrity, so head to yousaid100miles.com/corrections and tell us why we're wrong. You Said 100 Miles has a website!: https://yousaid100miles.com Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at https://www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith — https://pommelsmith.bandcamp.com Chapters0:00:00 — Welcome to the September-ish Show 0:03:11 — Metropolis and the Ten-Hour Drop Bag Wait 0:07:22 — Museum Corner: Twenty Mule Borax and a Death Valley Golf Course 0:15:42 — The Clyfford Still Museum Keeps the Art in Storage 0:19:48 — Shuttered Presidential Libraries and Cloned Presidents 0:21:31 — Trondheim: Nidaros Cathedral and the Missing King Olaf 0:25:21 — Welcome to Hell (Next to Extra Hell) 0:28:28 — Two Pairs of AirPods and From Hell to Hell 0:34:42 — One Rainy Run, and Staying One Up on Oak 0:39:15 — Three New Nike Super Shoes (and Goat Tech) 0:44:48 — Cracking Two Hundred, and Is It a PED? 0:54:11 — KJ's September: A Knee Twinge at Shenandoah 0:59:54 — Run Rabbit Run's $100K Prize Purse 1:05:29 — The Conga Line and a Pitcher-by-Pitcher Aid Station 1:12:27 — Two Roots, Nearly the Splits 1:16:24 — Long Lake Dogs and Hail on the Jeep Road 1:21:14 — Summit Lake: Farther Than Bucket Hat Bob 1:23:28 — Chasing the Aspens to a Drop at Dry Lake 1:33:39 — Adam Walks into a Living Room Full of People 1:37:58 — A 100% DNF Rate, Oktoberfest, and Resort-Town Dreams 1:47:00 — MRI Chaos and Bob Retires the CPAP 1:57:58 — Very Low Zone Two at Planet Fitness 2:00:08 — Don't Tolerate Mediocrity 2:10:10 — Tell Us Why We're Wrong 2:13:15 — Recs: Game Changer, DCC Book Seven, and Neagley

Elliott Beach is back for the first time since his HURT YS100M debut, and he and KJ walk us through crewing and pacing Jada at Badwater 135 — mandatory sauna training nobody enjoys, the Walmart aisle crawl, and the Dungeon Crawler Carl van theme complete with matching boxer shorts and a Princess Donut light. Strap in for an hour of how the crew hid problems from Jada and lamented losing their Powerade. Also: the portable flush toilet. Clutch. Then Badger 100, notoriously the hottest race on earth, which was cold and pouring rain — Bob made seventy-odd grilled cheeses (with pickles in them, fight him), and Orangeville ran a full Waffle House theme with name tags, a slushy machine, a call-ahead menu board, and Elliott chasing runners down the trail with hash browns. Finally Eastern States 100, where Rocksylvania earns the name: twenty-thousand-plus feet of climbing, a chest-deep creek crossing, a, rattlesnakes, blueberry pancakes you summon with an air horn and then can't eat, and a 54% DNF rate. Elliott dropped at Tomb Flats; KJ dry-heaved his way to a buckle and then got eaten alive by biting flies in the finish-line grass. Plus a wonderful but HURTful surprise for our runners during the race. Corrections are now open at yousaid100miles.com/corrections; go tell us why we're wrong. Chapters0:00:00 — Welcome: Fault Lines and a Very Oversold Guest 0:03:32 — Three Races, One Spoiler 0:06:29 — Badwater Prep: Lists, Logistics, and Mandatory Sauna Training 0:11:58 — Travel Day and the Red Pacifica 0:14:56 — Drop Your Bags and Walk Every Aisle of Walmart 0:16:54 — Dungeon Crawler Carl, Matching Boxers, and a Princess Donut Light 0:24:18 — A Screw in the Tire, and Keeping Jada in the Dark 0:32:02 — 120 Degrees at a Nighttime Start 0:35:10 — Crewing Every Two Miles for Thirty-Nine Hours 0:42:10 — What We'd Do Differently: Drawers 0:43:50 — A Seventy-Degree Swing into Lone Pine 0:45:53 — The Night the Crew Vanished, and the Angry Mashed Potatoes 0:52:00 — The Powerade Diva 0:53:34 — Losing Jada in Lone Pine (She Was Fixing a Toilet) 0:56:02 — Eight Seconds Under Thirty-Nine Hours 0:58:42 — Adopt-a-Highway: Signing Elliott Up Behind His Back 1:03:24 — The Portable Flush Toilet 1:05:04 — Badger 100: Cold, Rainy, and Seventy Grilled Cheeses 1:11:44 — Waffle House at Orangeville and the Call-Ahead Menu Board 1:17:35 — Badger's Real Draw: The Last Supper 1:19:07 — Eastern States 100: Welcome to Rocksylvania 1:24:01 — Elliott's DNF at Tomb Flats 1:27:30 — Pine Creek and a Full Blister Wrap 1:32:04 — Dry Heaving from Aid Station to Aid Station 1:37:24 — Rattlesnakes That Sound Like Bugs 1:41:19 — Skytop, the Air Horn, and Pancakes He Couldn't Eat 1:43:38 — The Rattlesnake Den, Three Quarters of a Mile Out 1:47:22 — Jogging It In, and the Biting Flies 1:53:25 — The HURT 100 Lottery Trap 1:59:34 — Eastern States by the Numbers: A 54% DNF Rate 2:03:34 — Corrections, Discord, and Past My Bedtime

Bob is officially back to running — gingerly. Coach Claude drew up a twelve-week run-walk plan, the carbon plate has been demoted to his walking shoes, and there's now a barbell in the garage and daily ankle rehab, all in the name of never rolling that ankle mid-race again. Meanwhile KJ is deep in Badwater taper: endless sauna sessions that have earned him a genuine, app-certified Heat Champion belt (cup-holder mods pending), uphill treadmill work, and a Precision Hydration race-day plan he walks us through gram by gram. Then it goes gloriously off the rails. We narrate the Precision Hydration case-study site for what KJ swears is “excellent pod,” mistake a 29029 Everesting event for a “hiking race” and rename it wilderness sauntering, break down the logistics of pacing Badwater two miles at a time, and launch the KJ Pacer Lottery for Eastern States (is there an Alex?). Also: orange Kit Kats vs. Terry's Chocolate Orange, a Hot Topic / Journey's / FYE mall-nostalgia tour, the I Got That On Vinyl website, Starlink rentals for the Badger beer-mile stream, and — after Oak Miller became the first person ever to complain about the show — a hard-fought Jewish-vs-Italian deli debate. Back in a couple of days; see you at Badger. Got a DNF — or a DNOF — story of your own? Go write it at https://chatdnf.com. You Said 100 Miles has a website, with auto-scrolling transcripts Bob spent way too long building: https://yousaid100miles.com — come join the Discord. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at https://www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith — https://pommelsmith.bandcamp.com

Bob is out of injury jail — sort of. The bone bruise still won't quit, so there's now a rigid carbon plate living in one shoe, a health-insurance mystery he refuses to let go of, and a certain very-trending procedure finally checked off the list. Meanwhile KJ preps for Badwater the only sensible way: baking in his condo sauna until he's a certified Heat Champion (belt included), then cramming a Furnace 50K, Eastern States, and a wedding into the same three weeks. We recap Western States from the couch — Tammy Hellings' incredible late rally, the new pole and traction-device rules, and Oak's fateful portapotty miscalculation — then coin the term ultrarunning has been missing: the tricerabottom (you'll have to listen). Captain's Corner heads to the Woodrow Wilson Presidential Library in Staunton (pronounced "Stanton"), Bob strikes out at the Met but wins Central Park, KJ visits the Flight 93 Memorial, and caps it off with a surprise first-place relay leg at Laurel Highlands. Back in about a month — we'll make July happen. Got a DNF — or a DNOF — story of your own? Go write it at https://chatdnf.com. You Said 100 Miles has a website, with auto-scrolling transcripts Bob spent way too long building: https://yousaid100miles.com — come join the Discord. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at https://www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith — https://pommelsmith.bandcamp.com

KJ tours the Green Bank Observatory inside West Virginia's radio-quiet zone (no cell phones, very big dishes) and runs the WV Trail Festival at Snowshoe — fog, a pizza-oven aid station, and a website worth copying. Bob hits Cedar Point and the Field Museum's Pokémon Fossil exhibit while nursing a bone bruise. We do actually talk some about ultrarunning: Cocodona, controversial finishes, running funks, volunteering and finding running joy again. No swimming, no depressing shit. Got a DNF story of your own? Go write it at https://chatdnf.com. You Said 100 Miles has a website: https://yousaid100miles.com Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at https://www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Episode Artwork Attribution: NRAO/AUI/NSF, CC BY 4.0 , via Wikimedia Commons Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith — https://pommelsmith.bandcamp.com

Bob and KJ reconvene to recap the Hyner 50K — Paul left it all out there at 6:06, Elliot had a solid day, KJ ran his fastest Hyner ever despite a deeply unwise dive bar pizza the night before, and Bob rolled his ankle at mile 4, kicked the other foot into a rock, ran out of water, and DNF’d at mile 16. Allegedly while wearing two watches. The cake table at the finish line is real, and SOB Hill earned its name. Also on deck: Bob tours the First Division Museum at Cantigny, KJ paces Motivation Theory Running to a big PR at the C&O Canal 100, then walks up the AT to Jefferson’s Rock, lipoprotein(a), KJ pitches a fix the Western States lottery and Bob counters with an Olympic-style qualifier race (held at Hyner, naturally). Bob previews a new feature for ChatDNF that might actually be useful for people to come out soon, maybe. Until then, go write your DNF story at https://chatdnf.com. You Said 100 Miles now has a website: https://yousaid100miles.com Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at https://www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith — https://pommelsmith.bandcamp.com

Bob’s back from the Field Museum, KJ has strong opinions about water parks, and special guest Jada Freer joins fresh off running the Badwater Cape Fear 50K to give us the full debrief — hectic travel, dolphin sightings, golf cart navigation failures, and a trail section that was genuinely not built for tall people. Also: Creeper Socks get their moment, bib boards get a serious policy discussion, the Saunter Triple Crown is born, Jada’s safety pin sock system is revealed and immediately causes chaos, Cocodona is moving to a lottery, and KJ is outfitting a Starlink backpack for Badwater 135 crewing duties. If you DNF’d a race and need someone to process it for you, check out ChatDNF.com. Bob built it. It might sting a little. You Said 100 Miles now has a website: yousaid100miles.com Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference on Spotify and Apple Podcasts. Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith.

Bob’s ailments, KJ’s coaching, and much discussion about how Bob is an old man who hates social media. You Said 100 Miles now has a website! https://yousaid100miles.com. You can finally get in touch with us! Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Sass returns and Erica joins for a random episode about a very hot TV show. Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Special Guests Oak Miller and Steve Tursi join Bob and KJ to talk about their race at the 2026 St. Croix 40 Winter Ultra, including our very interesting experience having a Juicy Lucy before the race. Museum lovers fear not, there is much talk about Paisley Park at the end! Some alternate title suggestions from the AI: The Great St. Croix Saunter: A Winter AdventureFrom DNF to Victory: The St. Croix Saunter ExperienceWinter Ultra Shenanigans: Gear, Burgers, and FriendshipRoller Coasters and Race Prep: A Winter Ultra JourneySurviving the Chill: Insights from a Winter Ultra MarathonSledding Shenanigans: Tales from the TrailHeadlamps and Hills: A Journey of Endurance Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Scott Kummer of Ten Junk Miles joins Bob & Kevin to recap the 14th Annual Torchy’s Run and talk about winter ultras in advance of Bob & Kevin wandering in the snow at the St. Croix 40 winter ultra next month. There is museum chat, professional wrestling chat, and Kevin gives us his breakdown of the Taco Bell 50K and the Devil Dog 100. Please consider making a donation to Band of Runners here: https://donorbox.org/14th-annual-torchy-s-taco-run Check out the Ten Junk Miles podcast available on the your favorite podcast platform, or find it here: https://tenjunkmiles.libsyn.com/website Come run one of the TJM races in 2016! Registration is open for all 3 races: Sugar Badger: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=127092 Badger: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=128933 Dot’s Last Standing: https://ultrasignup.com/register.aspx?did=130317 Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Bob & Kevin had almost no planned topics and somehow still got sidetracked, a lot. Kevin blindsides Bob with a complex question about iconic ultras. Please excuse my hoarse voice. Please consider making a donation to Band of Runners here: https://donorbox.org/14th-annual-torchy-s-taco-run Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

Paul Fortunato returns to share his tale of his recent finish at the No Business 100. Kevin talks about his finish at the Rim to River 100. Bob details his failure to beat his neighbor at a local 5K. We also have some opinions about Pie. Please consider making a donation to Band of Runners here: https://donorbox.org/14th-annual-torchy-s-taco-run Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife Theme song courtesy of Pommelsmith

KJ ran Woodstock Warrior, we crewed the Wasatch 100, I volunteered at Last dot Standing, KJ convinced Bob to buy Janji and we both have a museum story (kind of) & more! Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife

So, we thought this would come out before the swap cast – we were wrong Injuries, GLP-1’s, Costco, Dry Needling, 100 mile pace groups, and carbon plated walking boots? Bob’s TeamRMHC (Ronald McDonald House Charities) fundraising link: https://give.rmhc.org/fundraiser/5879512 Check out the other Team Puma Knife Podcasts at www.teampumaknife.com, including Subtle Interference which you can find on Spotify and Apple Podcasts or download directly here: SubtleInterference – Team Puma Knife