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The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela

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2022/08/04
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2026/10/07
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32 min.
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The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela is a podcast about the boutique hospitality community and how its top industry executives and leaders stay up-to-date on the best innovative trends in boutique hotels all around the world. Episodes feature candid conversations with visionaries discussing new philosophies, ideas and innovations in the hospitality industry, primarily, the Boutique Hotel Community.

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From Neuroscience to Hospitality: Spenser Apramian's Unconventional Path to Bridgeton
2026/10/07
"A hotel is the ultimate manifestation of a sensory experience." That's Spenser Apramian's framework for why he left neurobiology at Stanford for boutique hospitality investment. In this episode, Spenser, VP of Investments at Bridgeton, joins Ariela to trace his unconventional path — from studying how memories form in the brain, to helping build Fenty Beauty and other celebrity brands at LVMH's Kendo Brands, to institutional luxury hospitality investing through the Sundance Resort deal, and now acquiring and scaling boutique hotels at Bridgeton. They dig into what actually makes a hospitality deal pencil, why preserving a property's existing community matters as much as the renovation, and why a failed self-check-in experiment taught Bridgeton more about hospitality than almost any success. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 – Introduction to Spenser Aprahamian and Bridgeton1:06 – From neurobiology at Stanford to hospitality: the hotel as the ultimate sensory experience2:42 – Building Fenty Beauty and other brands at Kendo, LVMH's in-house brand incubator7:00 – Learning institutional luxury hospitality investment through the Sundance Resort and the Wolf Merritts & Lou Wolf Fund8:05 – Joining Bridgeton and the case for vertically integrated ownership and operation9:41 – What's in the pipeline: a major new drive-to destination project10:30 – Bespoke in-hotel cinemas and other creative amenity ideas15:10 – Lessons from Broadreach's acquisition of Sundance Resort: preserving identity through new ownership17:49 – What makes a deal: why location and basis decide every acquisition20:22 – Scaling with integrity: why culture, not just capital, is the real differentiator21:16 – Community, sustainability, and wellness: which one investors still underestimate24:12 – The next five years of boutique hospitality: AI, personalization, and why human check-in isn't going away27:51 – Why Bridgeton's self-check-in experiment flopped, and what that says about hospitality Episode Highlights: Spenser's path from studying neurobiology and sensory systems at Stanford to seeing hotels as the "ultimate manifestation" of an immersive sensory experienceHis time at Kendo Brands, LVMH's in-house brand incubator, helping build Fenty, Marc Jacobs, and Kat Von D as celebrity-backed brandsEarly hospitality development experience with Ventana Inn (now Alila) and the Segerstrom family's South Coast PlazaLearning institutional luxury hospitality investment through the Wolf Merritts & Lou Wolf Fund's acquisition and operation of the Sundance ResortWhy he joined Bridgeton specifically for its vertically integrated model — owning and operating rather than outsourcing to third-party managementA major new drive-to destination project in the pipeline, in the same mold as Marram and Dawn RanchBespoke in-hotel cinemas and other creative amenities, and how Ferndale Group has made them surprisingly profitableWhat Broadreach's acquisition of Sundance taught him about preserving a property's built-in community and identity through ownership changeHis two biggest filters for acquisitions: location first, then basis — and why a high per-key purchase price is where hospitality investors get burnedWhy he believes culture, not just capital, is what actually lets a hospitality portfolio scale with integrityCommunity as the hardest (and most underestimated) value to build into a property, compared to the now well-understood wellness trendHis outlook on the next five years: more personalization and AI-driven back-of-house efficiency, but no replacing human check-inBridgeton's own failed self-check-in experiment, and what the guest backlash revealed about what people actually want from hospitality Spenser and Ariela close by returning to the idea that's run through the whole conversation: hospitality works because it's fundamentally a people business, and every tool — AI included — only earns its place if it protects that, rather than replacing it. From neuroscience to brand incubation to hotel investment, Spenser's throughline is the same: understand what people actually crave, protect the community and culture already built into a place, and treat efficiency as a means to free up human connection, not a substitute for it. Spenser Apramian invests in and develops luxury destinations with a focus on community, sustainability, and wellness. He holds a B.S. in Neurobiology with Honors from Stanford and an MBA from Stanford Graduate School of Business. Spenser began his career at LVMH, where he helped build Kendo Brands and launch Fenty Beauty by Rihanna, now valued at over $2.8 billion. He later served as Director of the Segerstrom Family Office, owner and developer of South Coast Plaza, the highest-grossing luxury shopping destination in the US, where he drove strategic real estate growth in the portfolio, including its $2 billion mixed-use master plan. He then joined Broadreach Capital as VP of Strategy, focused on the firm's acquisition of Robert Redford's 5,000-acre Sundance Resort. Today, Spenser is VP of Investments at Bridgeton Holdings, a vertically integrated hospitality group with over $2 billion in AUM, where he leads new acquisitions for the hospitality portfolio. During his tenure, Bridgeton has acquired and developed over $200 million in new hospitality assets. https://bridgeton.com/ Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
Searching for Meaning, Searching for Community: SingleThread's Tony Greenberg on Why Hospitality Is Everywhere
2026/09/30
"It's a restaurant with rooms attached." That's how Tony Greenberg describes SingleThread — and Ariela thinks it might be the future of hospitality. In this episode, Tony, co-founder of SingleThread and CEO of Vertice Hospitality, joins Ariela to trace his unlikely path from working under Mayor Bloomberg on the Hudson Yards development to surviving the 2008 financial crisis to co-founding SingleThread with chef Kyle Connaughton. They dig into what makes SingleThread's restaurant-inn-farm model work, how retail and hospitality are converging across every industry, and why Tony insists that integrity — not opportunity — should decide which projects a hospitality brand takes on. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 – Introduction to Tony Greenberg and SingleThread0:40 – From NYU finance grad to working on Hudson Yards under Mayor Bloomberg3:32 – Striking out on his own to found Up Ventures4:16 – The pivot to food and hospitality, and building Food Union with top chefs6:22 – Losing it all in the 2008 financial crisis, and meeting future co-founder Kyle Connaughton7:11 – Building SingleThread as a side project that quickly took off9:47 – What SingleThread actually is: a restaurant, inn, and farm woven into one experience11:20 – Hospitality's spread into retail and other industries14:22 – Opening Selvedge: extending SingleThread into a standalone inn16:02 – Retail at SingleThread: starting small and staying true to the core business20:37 – Why integrity, not opportunity, should decide which projects to take on20:59 – Bringing SingleThread to Kyoto through a partnership with Capella Hotel Group24:09 – Closing: what's next for SingleThread, including Entremet and future locations Episode Highlights: Tony's origin story: working for Mayor Bloomberg's Economic Development Corp on Hudson Yards in his 20s, negotiating opposite real estate titans like Steve Roth and Douglas DurstStriking out on his own to found Up Ventures after discovering he was barred from working with anyone who'd bid on Hudson YardsBuilding Food Union with chefs Thomas Keller, David Chang, and Albert Adrià as anchor tenants — and watching it collapse in the 2008 financial crisisMeeting future SingleThread co-founder Kyle Connaughton through that experience, and starting SingleThread as a side projectWhat SingleThread actually is: a restaurant, inn, and farm designed as one continuous guest experienceWhy hospitality is bleeding into retail and other industries, and his take on which brands are doing it well versus poorlyOpening Selvedge, a 10–11 room extension of SingleThread with no restaurant of its ownHis approach to retail: starting small (farm store, CPG products, artisan collaborations) and never letting it distract from the core businessWhy he insists on integrity as a filter for every business decision — "if you can't execute at a very high level, just don't do it"Bringing SingleThread to Kyoto through a partnership with Capella Hotel Group, after a pre-COVID Japan project fell throughWhat's next: opening SingleThread Entremet and plans to expand the concept to a few more international locations over time Tony and Ariela close on a theme that's run through the whole conversation: growth, for Tony, only makes sense when it makes everything — the guest experience, the team, and the brand — better, not just bigger. From Hudson Yards to Food Union's collapse to building SingleThread almost by accident, his throughline is patience and integrity over opportunism. As hospitality continues to spill into retail, real estate, and beyond, his approach offers a clear filter: only take on what you can execute at the highest level, and let everything else wait. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
Brand Before Tactics: Andreanna Mazereeuw's Rules for Boutique Marketing
2026/09/23
Andreanna Mazereeuw doesn't think of a hotel website as a brochure — she thinks of it as a lobby. In this episode, Andreanna, president of Wallop, a Vancouver-based strategy agency working with independent, luxury, and experiential hotels, joins Ariela to unpack why so many boutique properties fail to translate their physical distinction into their digital presence. They dig into the real state of direct booking in 2026, why loyalty points mean almost nothing to boutique guests, and why brand strategy — not the latest marketing tactic — is always where the real work has to start. 0:00 – Introduction to Andreanna Mazereeuw and Wallop2:35 – Why boutique and experiential hospitality, and the "David and Goliath" appeal of helping independents compete5:30 – Where digital translation breaks down: treating a website like a brochure instead of an online lobby9:35 – Understanding guest motivations over demographics12:38 – What lasting distinction looks like: a client case study on connection over luxury positioning18:11 – Reframing "digital vs. visceral": continuity, not competition20:17 – The real state of direct booking: website conversion, AEO, paid media, and loyalty23:22 – Why loyalty points don't move boutique and luxury guests25:50 – Rate-matching frustrations and the cost of losing direct bookings and guest data28:34 – Where to actually spend marketing dollars: brand foundations before tactics31:35 – The cultural shift toward community and belonging in travel36:48 – Closing advice: get your data architecture right first Episode Highlights: Wallop's client roster (Brush Creek Ranch, The Drake, Ace Hotel, The Standard, Miraval, and more) and its in-house documentary film arm, Wallop FilmThe "David and Goliath" appeal of helping independent hotels compete against big flags and OTAs through storytellingWhy treating a hotel website like a brochure fails, and her reframe of a good website as an "online lobby" with sensory continuityWhy guest motivation (the real reason someone chooses a property) matters more than demographic personasA client case study where a "luxury" positioning turned out to be secondary to the real driver of bookings: feeling known and welcomedHer reframe of the digital-vs-visceral tension in boutique hospitality as continuity between the two, not a competitionThe current, unglamorous reality of direct booking: converting website traffic, AEO (answer engine optimization), disciplined paid media, and loyalty/email marketing for repeat guestsWhy loyalty points don't move boutique and luxury guests, and Ariela's take on why the Bonvoy pitch to independents misses the markThe real cost — in dollars, data, and guest experience — of hotels refusing to rate-match direct inquiries against OTA pricingHer advice on where to spend marketing dollars: start with brand and guest understanding before tacticsThe industry-wide shift toward community and belonging, and why resonance without performance (or vice versa) both failHer single tactical fix for hoteliers before year-end: get a clean, trustworthy data architecture in place Andreanna and Ariela close by tying the whole conversation back to one idea: distinctiveness only works when it's backed by genuine understanding of the guest, and both brand and business performance have to hold together at once. Whether it's a website, a booking policy, or a marketing budget, the properties winning right now are the ones that know exactly why their guests choose them — and build every decision, digital or physical, around that truth rather than trends, tactics, or hollow authenticity. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
The Loyalty Currency: Annabel Schwartz on Emotional Connection in Hospitality
2026/09/16
Annabel Schwartz says she doesn't love hotels — she loves what happens inside them. In this episode, Annabel, founder of hospitality consultancy Casa Talana and former head of membership and cultural programming at Soho House and San Vicente Bungalows, joins Ariela to talk about the human moments that make hospitality unforgettable. They dig into why emotional connection, not loyalty points, is the real currency of luxury hospitality, what cultural programming gets right and wrong, and why New York's booming private club scene may be reaching a breaking point. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 – Introduction to Annabel Schwartz and Casa Talana1:00 – Her career path: Soho House, San Vicente Bungalows, and founding Casa Talana2:02 – The childhood memories that shaped her belief in hospitality as human connection5:54 – Ariela's own story: the "art of listening" learned at Montage Beverly Hills8:12 – Why emotional connection, not loyalty points, is the real currency in luxury hospitality9:24 – Soho House vs. San Vicente Bungalows: balancing brand consistency with local specificity11:19 – Cultural programming: identifying what a community actually wants vs. what's trending14:11 – Where hotels and membership clubs go wrong: the "what, why, who" test15:37 – The New York private club boom, market saturation, and the craving for nostalgia Episode Highlights: Annabel's path from running membership programs at Soho House and San Vicente Bungalows to founding her own consultancy, Casa TalanaTwo childhood memories — a hotel in Greece and a hotel lobby in New York — that shaped her belief that hospitality is about human connection, not transactionsAriela's own story from working at Montage Beverly Hills, where staff were empowered (and given a budget) to create memorable guest momentsWhy she believes emotional connection, not loyalty programs, is the real driver of guest loyalty in luxury and boutique hospitalityComparing Soho House and San Vicente Bungalows: strong global brand consistency paired with deep local specificityHer "what, why, who" framework for diagnosing where hotels and membership clubs go wrong in their programmingHer take on the New York private club boom — a market she believes still has room to grow, but one edging toward oversaturation and "membership fatigue" Episode Conclusion: Annabel and Ariela close by circling back to a theme that runs through the whole conversation: hospitality's real value isn't the physical space, the brand, or the loyalty program — it's the human moments created inside it. From Annabel's childhood memories to her work reshaping cultural programming at some of the industry's most talked-about brands, her throughline is simple: give people a reason and a space to connect, and the rest follows. It's a timely reminder as private clubs and membership concepts multiply that the ones that last will be the ones built on genuine connection, not novelty. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality. Connect with Annabel Schwartz - Co-Founder, House of Talana LLC - https://www.houseoftalana.com/
Sound as Architecture: Shane Davis on Designing Hospitality Through Music
2026/09/09
Shane Davis didn't set out to build a hotel — he built "a punk rock DIY version of a cultural institution." In this episode, Shane, co-founder of Public Records in Brooklyn, joins Ariela to talk about how a former ASPCA headquarters became one of hospitality's most talked-about cultural spaces. They dig into why sound should be treated as architecture rather than atmosphere, how staying independent and un-overcapitalized shaped Public Records' growth, and what it really takes to build culture — not just design it — inside a hospitality space. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 – Introduction to Shane Davis and Public Records0:29 – How the building's history (former ASPCA HQ) shaped the vision for Public Records3:22 – Growth since 2019: the COVID pivot, "Public Access" channel, and expanding the space6:56 – Public Records as a platform first, physical space second — how that changed the design process9:29 – Staying independent: capital, investment, and resisting the "raise now" mindset10:29 – Sound as architecture, not atmosphere, in hospitality spaces14:05 – Advice for hoteliers building a music program: find a creative partner and have an opinion17:53 – Why Europe stays ahead: passion projects vs. institutionalized hospitality in the US20:34 – Designing multiple spaces within one property and why transitions matter24:24 – Can culture be designed? Building spaces that let culture evolve through the team Episode Highlights: How the building's dual history (ASPCA headquarters, then a stringed-instrument workshop) inspired the name, brand, and concept of Public RecordsGrowing through COVID by building "Public Access," an indie broadcasting channel, instead of rushing into new locationsStaying disciplined on capital: raising money once, early on, and never againWhy sound should be treated as architecture, not atmosphere, in hospitality designHis advice for hoteliers building a music program: find a genuine creative partner and "have an opinion"Why Europe stays ahead of the US in hospitality creativity — more passion projects, less institutional trend-chasingDesigning multiple spaces within one property: why the transitions between rooms matter as much as the rooms themselvesWhether culture can be designed — his take: design can shape intention, but it's the team that creates and evolves real culture over time Episode Conclusion: Shane and Ariela close on a theme that keeps surfacing throughout the season: no matter the topic — sound, capital, design, or growth — hospitality always comes back to people. Public Records' evolution from a scrappy passion project into one of Brooklyn's highest-grossing hospitality venues shows that staying independent, staying curious, and trusting a team to shape culture over time can outperform speed and speculative capital. It's a reminder that the most memorable spaces are built less by formula and more by conviction. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
"Know What You Don't Know": Glyn Aeppel on Investing in Founders
2026/09/02
Glyn Aeppel has spent decades at the highest levels of hospitality investment, but it's her time working alongside André Balazs that tells you the most about her eye. In this episode, Glyn, founder of Glencove Capital and one of the few women-owned boutique hospitality investment firms in the US, joins Ariela to unpack what she looks for in founders and brands, why "scale" means something completely different in boutique hospitality than in big-box brands, and the biggest misconception she still sees derail beautifully designed hotels. They also dig into her decade-long investment in Mob Hotel, lessons from working alongside hospitality icon André Balazs, and the trends she believes will define the next decade of boutique travel. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 – Introduction to Glyn Aeppel and Glencove Capital2:37 – Why she left the corporate world to found Glencove Capital6:06 – What she looks for in founders and brands before investing8:55 – Redefining "scale" for boutique hospitality — the choir and symphony analogy12:17 – Balancing creative vision with financial discipline17:12 – The biggest misconception in hospitality investment18:52 – Lessons from working alongside André Balazs (Chiltern Firehouse, The Standard)23:58 – Inside Mob Hotel: her decade-long investment and its social mission31:19 – Evaluating international investments and the importance of local partners34:28 – The two trends defining boutique travel's next decade: wellness and sustainability42:21 – Closing advice: be authentic and true to yourself Episode Highlights: Leaving a corporate role as "the second-largest shareholder but not the decision-maker" to found Glencove Capital out of frustration, not inspirationCalling herself a "corpreneur" — someone who becomes an entrepreneur later in life after a corporate careerWhat she looks for in founders: passion, deep knowledge, and knowing what they don't knowWhy cookie-cutter consistency is the enemy of boutique hospitality — and her choir/symphony analogy for how a brand umbrella should workThe constant push-and-pull between creative vision and financial discipline in scaling a boutique brandThe biggest misconception in hospitality investment: a beautifully designed building doesn't guarantee guests will comeWorking alongside André Balazs on Chiltern Firehouse and The Standard, and how he built teams around each project's unique visionInside Mob Hotel — her 10+ year investment in Cyril Azoulay's social-mission-driven European hotel brand, and its US expansion plansWhy international investing requires a trusted local partner — including a small but telling example (no TVs in Mob Hotel rooms) of cultural differences in hospitality designTwo trends she believes will define the next decade of boutique travel: deep health and wellness programming, and authentic sustainability Glyn and Ariela close by returning to a theme that runs through the whole conversation — that authenticity, not scale or spectacle, is what separates lasting boutique hospitality brands from the rest. From her own leap from corporate life to founding Glencove Capital, to her work with André Balazs and her long-term belief in Mob Hotel, Glyn's throughline is the same: know what you don't know, surround yourself with the right people, and stay true to your vision even when it isn't the easy path. It's a fitting reminder that in an industry chasing wellness and sustainability trends, the most durable investment is still in genuine, well-curated human experience. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
Stewardship Is the Strategy with Sarah Eustis on Transforming Boutique Hotels
2026/08/26
Sarah Eustis has hospitality in her blood, literally. In this episode, Sarah, CEO of Main Street Hospitality — a growing collection of independent hotels across the Berkshires and Rhode Island, including her family's iconic Red Lion Inn — joins Ariela to trace her path from fourteen-year-old housekeeper to twenty years in fashion (Ralph Lauren, Gap Inc., Limited Brands, and a stint building a brand in Paris) and back again to lead her family's hospitality legacy. They dig into what it means to be a "steward" rather than just an owner, how emotional connection outperforms transactional service, and the surprising overlap between fashion and hospitality as businesses built on brand, trust, and human connection. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 – Introduction to Sarah Eustis and Main Street Hospitality1:09 – Growing up at the Red Lion Inn and how it shaped her leadership philosophy2:24 – Hospitality as an emotional product, not a transaction, and what it means to be a "steward"6:11 – Lessons from Danny Meyer: training staff to read the room and make guests feel seen11:35 – Career journey: from Ralph Lauren and Gap Inc. to Limited Brands and Paris18:21 – Coming home to build Main Street Hospitality out of the family business19:59 – Leading through scale: staying grounded in the "why" and codifying company values22:29 – The case for conversions and "upcycling" over ground-up hotel development26:25 – Where fashion and hospitality intersect: brand building and shared customer bases Episode Highlights: Growing up inside the Red Lion Inn and learning hospitality as "rhythm," not transactionThe concept of being a "steward" of a place rather than just its owner or operatorTraining lessons from mentor Danny Meyer: reading the invisible "sign" every guest carries and responding to itHer 20-year detour through fashion — Ralph Lauren, Gap Inc. under Mickey Drexler, Limited Brands, and building a brand for a French retailer in ParisReturning home to grow the family's hotels into Main Street Hospitality, now spanning the Berkshires and Rhode IslandWhy she believes boutique hospitality can scale without losing its soul, as long as leadership keeps showing up for the "why"Her outlook on real estate strategy: prioritizing conversions and "upcycling" historic properties over ground-up developmentThe parallels between fashion and hospitality — brand voice, product quality, environment, and genuine customer engagement Episode Conclusion: Sarah and Ariela close by tying together the throughline of her career: whether in fashion or hospitality, the fundamentals are the same — a well-made product, a resonant brand voice, an inviting environment, and genuine engagement that builds trust. Sarah's journey from the Red Lion Inn to global fashion houses and back reinforces the idea that stewardship, not just ownership, is what keeps a hospitality brand meaningful as it grows. It's a reminder that scaling boutique hospitality doesn't have to mean losing its soul, provided leadership stays close to why the business exists in the first place. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
Nomada Hotel Group's Kimberly Walker on Staying Small, Staying Human
2026/08/19
Episode Summary: Kimberly Walker didn't build a hotel brand, she built a philosophy. In this episode, Kimberly, founder and creative director of Nomada Hotel Group — a portfolio of boutique hotels revived from historic buildings across California's Central Coast — joins Ariela to trace her path from restaurant-world dabbler to boutique hospitality visionary. They dig into the "lightbulb moment" that launched her career, the roots of boutique hospitality in hostel culture, and why human connection is becoming more essential to travel in an increasingly automated, AI-saturated world. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 – Introduction to Kimberly Walker and Nomada Hotel Group2:08 – Growing up in California, the pull of travel, and her hospitality "lightbulb moment"7:25 – The value of industry community, mentorship, and building connections11:33 – Hostel culture as the root of the boutique hotel movement20:43 – Antisocial culture, AI companionship, and why human connection matters more in hospitality24:00 – Staying boutique: in-house design, leadership, and finding meaning in the work27:01 – Closing thoughts: what independent hospitality teaches the world about creativity and place Episode Highlights: Kimberly's "lightbulb moment" — the first night Nomada's flagship property openedA Jerusalem cab driver's line that "hospitality" stems from a Hebrew phrase meaning "love of strangers," and how it shapes Nomada's cultureThe shared hostel-culture origins of Kimberly's and Ariela's love of travel — from a Marrakech hostel to Berlin's Generator MitteThe rise of the micro hotel and the importance of knowing your target guestA tangent on AI companionship (ChatGPT, the movie Her) and what it means for hospitality to stay human-centeredNomada's decision to keep design fully in-house rather than outsource, and why that keeps them intentionally smallKimberly's take on discomfort and authenticity as more valuable than luxury alone Episode Conclusion: Kimberly and Ariela close by reflecting on what independent hospitality is really teaching the world: that meaningful travel experiences don't require luxury, just a genuine point of view and a willingness to sit with a little discomfort. The conversation threads together community, creativity, and human connection as the real currency of boutique hospitality — and a reminder that convenience and comfort are worth balancing against the richer, sometimes messier moments that travel is actually for. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Contact Kimberly Walker - Founder & Creative Director, Nomada Hotel Group - https://www.nomadahotelgroup.com/ Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/bllaboutiquelodging/) and LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-boutique-and-lifestyle-leaders-association) to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
Healing Spaces: Creating a Wellness Sanctuary with Diana Stobo
2024/02/19
Episode Summary: In this episode, Diana Stobo, a pioneering chef and advocate for wellness and healthy living, shares her transformative journey from a raw food advocate to a wellness real estate pioneer in Costa Rica. Diana discusses the challenges and triumphs of building a wellness hotel focused on healing modalities and the philosophy of "slumming it in luxury" in the hospitality industry. Joined by Ariela, they dive into the importance of staff retention, leadership in hospitality, and the personal journey of self-discovery and overcoming Imposter Syndrome. Episode Time Stamps: 0:00 - Introduction to Diana Stobo and her journey in Costa Rica2:09 - Building a wellness hotel with a focus on healing modalities7:13 - Overcoming challenges in Costa Rica: Staffing, regulations, and growth11:29 - Luxury hotels in Costa Rica and Bali: Personalized service and unique experiences18:21 - The challenges of building and leading a team in the hospitality industry22:25 - Self-discovery and leadership: Overcoming Imposter Syndrome and finding self-worth Episode Highlights: Diana's transition from a raw food advocate to a wellness real estate pioneerThe concept of building a wellness hotel starting with food and expanding to include various healing modalitiesThe decision to build in Costa Rica over Thailand and the associated challenges"Slumming it in luxury" and the importance of unique experiences in luxury travelThe significance of staff retention and creating an authentic, intimate guest experienceAriela's insights on leadership, balancing compassion with effective managementOvercoming Imposter Syndrome and the journey of self-discovery and personal growth Episode Conclusion: Diana and Ariela highlight the transformative power of wellness, not just in the context of a hotel or travel experience, but as a personal journey of growth, leadership, and authenticity. They stress the importance of knowing oneself, being direct, and maintaining integrity in both personal and professional life. This episode serves as an inspiration for anyone looking to make a meaningful impact in the hospitality industry or seeking personal transformation through wellness. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Thank you to our sponsor, Solonis! Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
Behind Boutique: The Story of Mac&Lo's Hospitality Mastery
2024/02/05
Episode Summary:In this riveting episode of The Unfamiliar Shift, Ariela engages with Audrey Laurent and Sergio MacLean, the visionary principals of Mac&Lo Hospitality. The duo dives into their unique approach to curating immersive and impactful guest experiences, drawing from their diverse cultural backgrounds and deep artistic roots. From initiating operations from the ground up to spearheading custom hospitality projects, Audrey and Sergio share insights into their exemplary service ethos, molded by industry icons like Ian Schrager and Andre Balaz. Episode Timestamps:00:00:00 - Introduction to hospitality industry insights with Mac&Lo principals00:02:46 - Discussion on luxury hotel design and approachability in Detroit through the Shinola and Bedrock partnership00:11:51 - Insights into the hospitality industry backgrounds, training, and the art of storytelling in service00:18:25 - Exploration of hotel management and operations with a focus on culture and design Episode Highlights:Hospitality Industry Insights: Audrey and Sergio share their journey in creating bespoke hospitality experiences, highlighting their diverse cultural backgrounds and artistic influences.Luxury Hotel Design in Detroit: The episode sheds light on their partnership with Shinola and Bedrock, revealing their commitment to celebrating Detroit's culture and heritage while providing a luxury experience. Ariela, Audrey, and Sergio discuss the evolving trends in hotel service, emphasizing the importance of approachability and personalized service.Backgrounds and Training: The episode takes a deep dive into the backgrounds of Audrey and Sergio, showcasing how elements from acting, arts, and service industries blend to create a unique approach to hospitality, focusing on storytelling and meticulous service.Hotel Management and Operations: Audrey and Sergio recount their experiences in managing hotels in NYC, their meeting at the Mercer hotel, and their journey in building a company that thrives on a blend of culture, design, and exceptional operational standards. Episode Conclusion:Wrapping up this episode of The Unfamiliar Shift, Ariela highlights the passion and dedication of Audrey and Sergio in redefining hospitality through their unique blend of culture, design, and impeccable service. Their journey from the grassroots in the industry to leading bespoke hospitality projects serves as an inspiration and a testament to the power of innovation, personalized service, and a deep understanding of guests' needs. This episode not only sheds light on the intricate workings of luxury hotel management but also celebrates the diverse backgrounds and creative approaches that drive the industry forward. Stay tuned for the next episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela for more insightful discussions on the boutique lifestyle lodging industry. Thank you to our sponsor, Solonis! Keep connected with BLLA for the latest updates and explore BLLA.org for more resources. Follow us on Instagram and LinkedIn to keep up with the pulse of boutique hospitality.
From Imagination to Innovation: The Art of Hotel Entrepreneurship and Creative Branding with Cory Schisler
2024/01/29
[Episode Summary] In this episode of "The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela," host Ariela Kiradjian is joined by industry expert Cory Schisler to dive into the world of authentic hotel and restaurant brand building. Cory shares his insights, experiences, and valuable advice on creating unique and successful hospitality ventures. From a luxury boutique hotel project in wine country to the intricacies of branding, PR, influencer marketing, and the power of creativity, this episode is packed with valuable knowledge for anyone in the hospitality industry. [Episode Timestamps] Introduction: Authentic hotel and restaurant brand building with Cory Schisler. (0:00)A luxury boutique hotel project in wine country. (1:56)Funding and positioning a boutique hotel in wine country. (6:11)Branding and messaging for a boutique hotel. (12:14)Preopening budget for PR and its impact on a hotel's success. (15:44)Influencer marketing for a small hotel. (20:16)Creativity, reading habits, and podcasting. (26:19) [Episode Highlights] Introduction: Authentic hotel and restaurant brand building with Cory Schisler. (0:00) Cory shares insights on building authentic hotel and restaurant brands. A luxury boutique hotel project in wine country. (1:56) The Madrona in Healdsburg, California, opened a year and a half ago.The trio behind the project, including Cory Schisler, found the hotel through serendipity and shared passion for real estate and design.They pursued the opportunity despite initial assumptions, showcasing the power of following creativity and living in flow. Funding and positioning a boutique hotel in wine country. (6:11) The Madrona offers a cosmopolitan experience with a high-end cocktail program and luxury service.Securing funding for smaller properties with under 50 rooms can be challenging; Cory shares his approach through personal connections and networking.Challenges faced, including the pandemic and election cycle, were overcome with community support and helpful county permits.Building relationships with neighbors and stakeholders from the beginning was a priority. Preopening budget for PR and its impact on a hotel's success. (15:44) PR is crucial for a successful hotel opening; allocating a significant budget for pre-opening PR efforts is advised.Establishing awareness and building relationships with PR partners for ongoing interest in the hotel is vital.Collaborative PR efforts with a nearby winery resulted in mutual benefits and increased exposure. Influencer marketing for a small hotel. (20:16) Building relationships with publications and influencers is essential for driving awareness and inquiries for small hotels.Influencers as content creators play a key role in keeping the brand visible and relevant.Measuring digital marketing efforts through metrics and data for bookings and ROI is crucial.Finding balance in a partnership, with creativity and finance/hospitality focus, is discussed. Creativity, reading habits, and podcasting. (26:19) Ariela and Cory discuss multitasking reading habits and creative brains.Cory shares his approach to reading books based on mood and the importance of creativity in the industry. [Episode Conclusion] This episode of "The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela" provides invaluable insights into the world of authentic hotel and restaurant brand building, with Cory Schisler sharing his experiences and expertise. From finding the perfect boutique hotel project to funding, branding, PR, and influencer marketing, listeners gain a comprehensive understanding of what it takes to succeed in the hospitality industry. The episode wraps up with a discussion on creativity and its significance in hospitality.
Lark Hotels CEO's Secrets to Scaling Success
2024/01/22
Summary: In this episode of The Unfamiliar Shift with Ariela, Lark Hotels CEO Peter Twachtman takes us on a journey into the world of bespoke hospitality and immersive stays. From scaling a hospitality company with integrity to navigating the evolving landscape of boutique hotels, the discussion touches upon key insights and challenges in the industry. Timestamps and Topics: 0:00 - Introduction2:10 - Scaling a Hospitality Company9:05 - Hotel Industry Trends and Independence12:24 - Boutique Hotels and Their Place in the Industry18:42 - Scaling a Boutique Hotel Collection25:01 - Personal and Professional Development in Boutique Hospitality Key Discussion Points: The significance of a strong foundation, including people and systems, in scaling a hospitality business.The challenges of maintaining authenticity and independence in the face of increasing competition and institutional ownership.The role of vulnerability and trust in leadership and team dynamics.The value of personal development in building strong business relationships.The profound impact of creativity on business, beyond surface-level thinking. Concluding Thoughts: This episode provides valuable insights into the world of boutique hospitality and the challenges and opportunities it presents. From scaling a boutique hotel collection to maintaining authenticity and fostering creativity, the discussion highlights the keys to success in this dynamic industry. The importance of personal development and building trust emerges as a recurring theme, underscoring their significance in the world of bespoke hospitality. Ariela and Peter offer a wealth of experience and wisdom for anyone interested in this fascinating industry.
Creative Spaces, Creative Minds: Jersey Banks on Hotel Entrepreneurship
2024/01/16
Episode Summary: In this episode of Creative Spaces, Creative Minds: Jersey Banks on Hotel Entrepreneurship, we dive into the world of boutique hotels, dynamic branding, and the art of hospitality. Jersey discusses her journey from artist to hospitality entrepreneur, the impact of social media on her business, and the evolution of her unique brand. We also explore the role of creativity and women's empowerment in the hotel industry. Timestamps & Topics: 0:00 - Introduction to Jersey and her journey from artist to hospitality entrepreneur, including the balance of business and motherhood. 2:14 - Hospitality industry beginnings and Instagram marketing strategies. Insights into Jersey's unexpected entry into the industry and her adaptation to social media trends. 7:20 - Property development, marketing strategies, and creative revenue streams. Discussion on unique property features and the growth of Jersey's company.  14:57 - Creativity, passion, and evolution in business. Ariela and Jersey share insights on staying inspired and adapting business models. 20:53 - Women's empowerment in the hotel industry. Exploring the opportunities and challenges for women in hotel ownership and leadership. Key Discussion Points: The unique blend of artistry and hospitality in Jersey Bank's career.The evolution of social media marketing, particularly Instagram, in promoting boutique hotels.The importance of creativity and adaptability in property development and branding.Strategies for creating diverse revenue streams in the hospitality industry.The significance of women's empowerment and leadership in the hotel sector. Concluding Thoughts: Jersey Banks' story is not just about boutique hotels; it's a testament to the power of creativity, adaptability, and the importance of female leadership in the business world. Her journey from an artist to a hospitality entrepreneur showcases the dynamic nature of the hotel industry and the endless possibilities for those willing to think outside the box and lead with passion.
Bridging Cultures: Andrew Miele's Innovative Approach to Wellness Tourism
2024/01/09
Episode Summary: In this insightful episode of our podcast, we delve into the fascinating world of wellness tourism with Andrew Miele, the CEO of Nomade People. We explore Andrew's unique leadership journey in the hospitality industry, his vision for conscious hospitality, and how he seamlessly blends spirituality and business to redefine the guest experience. Timestamps & Topics: 0:00 - Introduction to Andrew Miele and Nomade People 2:09 - Andrew's Career Path in the Hospitality Industry 6:26 - Career Transitions and Business Growth 14:01 - Wellness Tourism and Hotel Operations in Tulum, Mexico 18:41 - Evolving a Hotel Company into a Cultural Brand 25:12 - Balancing Spirituality and Business in the Wellness Industry 31:12 - Conscious Travel and Hospitality Industry 37:09 - Hotel Industry Trends and Understanding Guests' Needs 43:44 - Beauty Industry Collaboration and Networking Key Discussion Points: Andrew Miele's career journey from a Holiday Inn in Ontario to leading Nomade People.The transformation of Nomade People and Andrew's role in shaping the company's future.Unique challenges and opportunities in wellness tourism, especially in Tulum, Mexico.The evolution of a hotel company into a broader cultural brand, influencing various aspects of lifestyle and travel.The delicate balance between spirituality and business, and how this impacts guest experiences and industry trends.Future directions for the hospitality industry, focusing on authenticity, integrity, and personal connections. Closing Thoughts: Andrew Miele's journey and insights offer a refreshing perspective on the hospitality industry, highlighting the importance of understanding and catering to the evolving needs of modern travelers. His approach to blending wellness, culture, and business serves as an inspiration for industry leaders and enthusiasts alike. As we look towards the future, it's clear that the hospitality industry is not just about providing a place to stay, but about creating meaningful experiences and connections that resonate with guests on a deeper level.
Reviving History: The Tale of New Orleans' Boutique Hotels
2023/12/12
Episode Summary: In this episode, we dive into the world of boutique hospitality with Nathalie Jordi, exploring her unique career path from ice pops to the development of boutique hotels in New Orleans. Join us as we uncover the story behind the creation of the Hotel Peter and Paul, delve into the challenges of hotel development, and discuss the importance of local ties and sustainable tourism in New Orleans. Timestamps & Topics: [0:00] Introduction to Boutique Hospitality Industry with Nathalie Jordi She shares her diverse career journey from ice pops to boutique hotels in New Orleans. [1:49] Hotel Development in New Orleans Focus on design and local partnerships. Ariela's excitement about Nathalie's boutique hotel, Hotel Peter and Paul. [6:37] Redeveloping a Historic Church Property into a Hotel Overcoming opposition from a neighborhood association. Building local support and securing a zoning change. [10:53] Hotel Development Challenges and Local Ties The importance of neighborhood ties and community-led projects. Challenges in securing financing and the role of persistence. [14:58] Financing and Construction Challenges for a Historic Hotel Ariela discusses banks' inflexibility in financing boutique hotels. The complexities of renovating a historic property. [22:51] Boutique Hotel Ownership in New Orleans The challenges of catering to diverse customer needs and the emotional labor involved. Nathalie's passion for New Orleans and sustainable tourism. Key Discussion Points: Career Transition Exploring Nathalie Jordi's unique shift from a different industry to boutique hotels.Understanding the motivations and inspirations behind this career change. Design & Local Partnerships The role of design aesthetics in creating a boutique hotel experience.How local partnerships enrich the hospitality experience and benefit the community. Historical Redevelopment The challenges and rewards of transforming historic buildings into boutique hotels.Strategies for engaging with local communities and gaining support for redevelopment projects. Financial & Construction Hurdles Discussing the difficulties in financing boutique hotel projects.The unpredictability and challenges encountered during the renovation of historic properties. Sustainable Tourism Natalie's vision for sustainable tourism in New Orleans.How boutique hotels can contribute to a more sustainable and culturally respectful tourism model. Direct Booking Advantages Exploring the benefits of direct booking for both the hotel and the guests.The impact of direct booking on guest experience customization and hotel revenue. Closing Thoughts: Nathalie Jordi's journey in the boutique hospitality industry highlights the importance of design, local partnerships, and sustainable practices in creating unique and memorable experiences for guests. Her dedication to preserving the cultural essence of New Orleans while facing various challenges is a testament to her passion and commitment to the industry. Season 2 is sponsored by Solonis, the property management system designed for hotels. Solonis is also a premier partner member of BLLA.

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Ariela90210 2022/08/16
Super interesting
This has been missing in the hospitality industry….thanks Ariela for making me feel seen and heard as a boutique hotelier!
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FrancescaAngel 2022/08/16
AMAZING!!!
What an amazing podcast. It’s short and sweet and to the point. I look forward to listening every week.
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