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2022/09/25
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2026/09/29
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Outside Ourselves with Kelsi Klembara features conversations about God’s gift of faith. What does it mean for saving faith to stand outside of our abilities and works? Join Kelsi as she explores questions about the Christian faith with theologians and theology lovers. New episodes every other week. Outside Ourselves is a part of the 1517 Podcast Network.

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Augustine on the Modern Condition with Steve Kruschel
2026/09/29
Kelsi chats with pastor and author, Steve Kruschel, about his latest devotional, A Year of Confession with Augustine: 365 Daily Devotions for the Restless Heart. The devotional will be out October 13, 2026 and is now available for preorder. Steve Kruschel serves as a pastor in Platteville, Wisconsin. He has graduated with degrees from Martin Luther College, Wisconsin Lutheran Seminary, and the University of Nebraska. For almost two decades, he has served as a pastor at churches in Nebraska and Wisconsin. He has authored two other books and numerous articles through 1517. He thanks the Lord every day for his wonderful wife, Becca, and the eight children with whom the Lord has blessed them. Timecodes: 00:00 Introduction and Steve's Background 03:30 Involvement with College Ministry 06:31 Devotional Writing and Its Importance 11:08 A Devotional Approach to Augustine's Confessions 18:15 Understanding Augustine's Life and Struggles 24:22 Wrestling with Suffering and Evil 30:40 Understanding Augustine's Confessions 38:30 The Messiness of the Christian Life 43:30 Themes of Restlessness and Grace Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Steve: Preorder A Year of Confession with Augustine Read More from Steve
The Ache of Living this Side of the Sky with Laura Wifler
2026/09/15
Kelsi chats with author, Laura Wifler, about her first book of poetry, This Side of the Sky: 101 Poems and Scriptures for the Hungry, Hopeful, and Homesick. Laura Wifler is a poet, educator, and bestselling author of books for both adults and children. Laura has long offered Christian women a place to feel seen in the midst of ordinary life. Through her poetry, she is known for giving language to what many women feel but struggle to name. Over the years, Laura has authored multiple bestselling, award-winning books for children, including "Any Time, Any Place, Any Prayer" and "Like Me," and is the co-author of the bestselling book "Risen Motherhood." Laura lives in central Iowa with her husband and three children. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Laura: Order This Side of the Sky Laura's Substack Laura's Instagram
When “Fear Not” Feels Impossible with Luke Kjolhaug
2026/09/01
Author and Pastor, Luke Kjolhaug, joins Kelsi to talk about his new book, Fear Not: How the Gospel Disrupts Our Deepest Anxieties. The two talk about how "Fear Not " is often less of a command than it is a promise throughout Scripture and how we can rely on Jesus to defeat our deepest anxieties. Luke Kjolhaug is the pastor of Elim Lutheran Church in Osakis, Minnesota. He holds undergraduate degrees from Wheaton College and the University of Minnesota, as well as a master’s degree from Lutheran Brethren Seminary. Luke is the author of Sinner Saint: A Surprising Primer for the Christian Life. He and his wife Bethannie have been blessed with two daughters. Timecodes: 00:00 Introduction 05:30 Personal Connection to Fear Not 11:17 Understanding Fear in Scripture 13:19 Fear and Anxiety 18:10 The Cultural Context of Fear 24:39 Wrestling with Fear and Faith 29:59 Understanding the Fear of God 34:25 Fear of the Future 43:27 FOMO and Covetousness in Modern Life Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Luke: Preorder Fear Not Follow Luke on Instagram
The World Has Forgotten How to Forgive with Amy Orr-Ewing
2026/08/18
Kelsi is joined by theologian, Amy Orr-Ewing, to discuss the unique gift of Christian forgiveness which Amy writes about in her most recent book, Forgiveness: Reclaiming its Power in a Culture of Outrage and Fear. Amy Orr-Ewing (DPhil, Oxford University) is an international speaker, theologian, and apologist. She is the author of multiple books, including Where Is God in All the Suffering? and Why Trust the Bible? Orr-Ewing speaks at churches and on university campuses around the world and has spoken in the UK Parliament, the United States Capitol, and the West Wing of the White House. She previously served as president of the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics and is an honorary lecturer at the University of Aberdeen. She lives near Oxford, England, with her husband and their three sons. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Amy: Forgiveness: Reclaiming Its Power in a Culture of Outrage Amy's Website Follow Amy on Instagram
Christianity: Antidote to Progress with Eddie LaRow
2026/08/04
Kelsi chat with author and editor, Eddie LaRow, about his forthcoming book, After Progress: How an Ancient Faith Roots a Restless Generation, the needs of those of us living in a digital age, and how those needs are met time and again by Christ and the cross. Eddie LaRow is an acquisitions editor at Baker Books. He has spent nearly a decade in publishing, and his essays have appeared in First Things, Ad Fontes, Mere Orthodoxy, The American Mind, and on his Substack. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Eddie: Eddie's Substack
Why Women Need Good Theology with Mary Van Weelden
2026/07/21
Content Manager for Sola Media, Mary Van Weelden, joins Kelsi to talk about the importance of making sure Christian women receive sound theological teaching and training from the local church, especially in the digital age where Tiktok and Instagram influencers often serve as our guides to theology, life, and more. Mary Van Weelden is Content Manager at Sola Media, a graduate of Westminster Seminary California, a writer, a pastor’s wife, and a former journalist. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Mary: Subscribe to Mary's Substack Follow Mary on X Mary is currently writing a book for P&R's Rooted in Wisdom Study Series entitled, Wisdom for Unwanted Seasons.
The Crisis of Morality (and Importance of Christian Virtue) with Alan Noble
2026/07/07
Author Alan Noble joins Kelsi to talk about the importance of Christian virtue, rooting virtue in the gospel and Noble's latest book, To Live Well: Practical Wisdom for Moving through Chaotic Times. Dr. O. Alan Noble is Associate Professor of English at Oklahoma Baptist University and author of numerous books and articles. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠ More from Alan: Purchase To Live Well Subscribe to Alan's Substack Alan's Website
The Spiritual Search for More with Belle Tindall-Riley
2026/06/23
Kelsi talks with author and theologian, Belle Tindall-Riley, about her new book, The Sacred Ache, and Gen Z's search for the spiritual. Belle holds a Doctorate in Biblical Studies and her debut book, The Sacred Ache, was published in the UK June 2026. She is also editor-in-chief of The Mockingbird magazine. The Sacred Ache will be out in the U.S. early next year. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠ More from Belle: Read Belle at Seen and Unseen Belle's Podcast Follow Belle on Instagram
The Lutheran View of Baptism with Brian Thomas
2026/06/08
Kelsi interviews Pastor Brian W. Thomas about his latest book with 1517 Publishing, By Water and the Word: God's Gift of Baptism for You at the latest Northwest Arkansas HWSS conference. The book serves as a visual and written guide to the Lutheran view of baptism which Kelsi and Brian both argue lines up with the Scriptural view of baptism. Brian W. Thomas is the pastor of Grace Lutheran in San Diego, California. He frequently contributes to 1517 and has written several books, including Wittenberg vs. Geneva: A Biblical Bout in Seven Rounds on Doctrines that Divide and Clothed with Christ: A Biblical Style Guide for Sinners. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠ More from Brian: Purchase By Water and the Word
How to be Human with Carl Trueman
2026/05/26
Kelsi talks with church historian, professor, and author, Carl Trueman about his newest book, The Desecration of Man: How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity. Carl R. Trueman (PhD, University of Aberdeen) is professor of biblical and religious studies at Grove City College. He is an esteemed church historian and previously served as the William E. Simon Fellow in Religion and Public Life at Princeton University. Trueman has authored or edited more than a dozen books, including The Creedal Imperative; Luther on the Christian Life; and Histories and Fallacies. Trueman is a member of The Orthodox Presbyterian Church. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠ Order The Desecration of Man: How the Rejection of God Degrades Our Humanity by Carl Trueman
The Future of Family with Scott Keith
2026/05/12
1517 Executive Director Scott Keith joins Kelsi to discuss his new book, Being Family: Passing Down the Faith Through the Generations. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠ Order Being Family by Scott Keith
The Culture of God's Word with Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford
2026/04/28
Kelsi chats with co-authors, Hal Senkbeil and Lucas Woodford of the newly released "The Culture of God's Word: Faithful Ministry in a Post-Christian Society." The duo talk about remaining faithful to the preaching of God's effective words of law and gospel no matter what ministry trends or cultural contexts surround us. They also discuss the importance of allowing the Word to supersede culture wars and the call for the church to embrace both hospitality and embodiment. Rev. Dr. Lucas V. Woodford, (MDiv, STM, DMin), is President of the Minnesota South District of the Lutheran Church – Missouri Synod and Associate Pastor of Trinity Lutheran Church, Farmington, MN. Dr. Woodford is a Fellow in the Collegium of DOXOLOGY: The Lutheran Center for Spiritual Care and Counsel, charged with research, writing, and speaking regarding the care of souls in the contemporary context. President Woodford is a husband to Becca and father to their seven children, five girls and two boys. Harold L. Senkbeil was born and raised on a Minnesota farm. His rural background has shaped his approach to work and people. He married Jane Frances Nesset in 1971. They are the parents of three and the grandparents of four. Harold was a parish pastor for 31 years prior to accepting a position as Associate Professor of Ministry and Mission at Concordia Theological Seminary, Fort Wayne, Indiana. Since 2008 he has served as Executive Director for Spiritual Care for DOXOLOGY: The Lutheran Center for Spiritual Care and Counsel and spends his time teaching and encouraging pastors to hone their skills in the ancient art of the cure of souls. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠ More from Hal and Lucas: Order The Culture of God's Word Subscribe to Hal's Substack Follow Hal on X Follow Lucas on X Doxology's Website
Blaise Pascal: Faith, the Self, and Our Modern World with Graham Tomlin
2026/04/14
Graham Tomlin joins Kelsi to discuss the influence and faith of 17th-century polymath, Blaise Pascal, based on Tomlin's most recent book, "Blaise Pascal: The Man Who Made the Modern World." The two discuss his similarities and differences with Martin Luther, his views of 17th-century French society (and how this culture offers many lessons for our modern world), and his contributions to Christian apologetics. Graham is the editor-in-Chief of Seen & Unseen, and a former Bishop of Kensington. He is a regular contributor to national publications and has written many books and articles, both academic and more popular. He founded the Centre for Cultural Witness, home to Seen & Unseen, in 2023. He taught theology within Oxford University for many years before founding St. Mellitus College. Show Notes: ⁠⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠⁠ More from Graham: Order Blaise Pascal:The Man Who Made the Modern World Seen & Unseen Graham's Substack
Evidence for the Resurrection with Adam Francisco
2026/03/31
What does it mean for Paul to claim that if Christ has not been raised, our preaching and faith is in vain as he states in 1 Corinthians 15? Adam Francisco joins Kelsi to talk about the importance of centering Christian apologetics on the resurrection of Christ as a historically reliable event. The two also discuss helpful responses to many of the common objections to the resurrection and how the apologetic task has shifted in a post-Christian and post-enlightenment age. Adam Francisco is Director of Academics and Scholar in Residence at 1517. He earned his DPhil from the University of Oxford in 2006 and served as Professor of History, Dean, and Assistant Provost in the Concordia University System for nearly two decades. Show Notes: ⁠⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠⁠ ⁠⁠1517 Podcasts⁠⁠ ⁠⁠1517 on Youtube⁠⁠ ⁠⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠⁠ ⁠⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠⁠ ⁠⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠⁠ What’s New from 1517: ⁠⁠Being Family by Dr. Scott Keith⁠⁠ ⁠⁠A Reasoned Defense of the Faith by Adam Francisco⁠⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Spotify⁠⁠ ⁠⁠Youtube⁠⁠ More from Adam: The Resurrection Fact: Responding to Modern Critics Defense of the Faith: Collected Essays in Christian Apologetics Adam's Recent Talk at the Faith and Reason Conference Adam's 1517 Academy Course on Faith and Reason
Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World
2026/03/17
Kelsi chats with author, Laurie Krieg, about her newest book (coauthored with her husband Matt), Raising Wise Kids in a Sexually Broken World, to answer how we keep the gospel as our foundation as we teach and guide our children through increasingly complex sexual issues today. Laurie Krieg is the director of parent programs and discipleship for The Center for Faith, Sexuality, and Gender. Laurie and her husband, Matt, are cohosts of the Hole in My Heart podcast, coauthors of An Impossible Marriage, and live in West Michigan with their three kids. Show Notes: ⁠Support 1517 Podcast Network⁠ ⁠1517 Podcasts⁠ ⁠1517 on Youtube⁠ ⁠1517 Podcast Network on Apple Podcasts⁠ ⁠1517 Events Schedule⁠ ⁠1517 Academy - Free Theological Education⁠ What’s New from 1517: ⁠Being Family by Dr. Scott Keith⁠ ⁠A Reasoned Defense of the Faith by Adam Francisco⁠ More from Kelsi: ⁠Kelsi Klembara⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Instagram⁠ ⁠Follow Kelsi on Twitter⁠ ⁠Kelsi's Substack⁠ Subscribe to the Show: ⁠Apple Podcasts⁠ ⁠Spotify⁠ ⁠Youtube⁠ More from Laurie: Raising Wise Kids Laurie's Website Laurie's Instagram

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Pseudopetunia 2026/06/12
Fantastic Conversations
I think it is incredibly difficult to host a good interview; not everyone can do it well. Kelsi is an exception. She is an excellent interviewer. Not ...
★★★★★
Tony Ramiz 2026/03/19
Fresh, Interesting, Insightful
Kelsi invites interesting guests of varied backgrounds and is bold to challenge on theological principles, always bringing the discussion back to bibl...
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Dylman09 2025/10/22
Excellent Lutheran Content
I am a member of the WELS synod (I believe many 1517 content is LCMS?) but this podcast and many of the 1517 content is great! It’s good to see qualit...
★★★★★
Dad Gibney 2024/10/02
Great show!!!!
My wife and I love Mrs. K!
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Eric T Nystrom 2024/09/09
So many voices speaking with honesty and hope
I can’t recommend this podcast enough. A diverse array of honest voices talking about all aspects of Christianity, with a clear focus on the Finished ...
★★★★★
driver_8 2024/09/09
Excellent
Kelsi’s a great interviewer, and she has interesting and faithful conversations with a slew of wonderful guests. Recommended!
★★★★★
@mountainbadger 2024/08/12
Behold what manner of love
The Father has given unto us. that he has given us another great podcast to bless us with @BadgerSmith7 Keep the yeah! It’s genuine, it’s you, it’s cu...
★★★★★
Yayappa 2024/07/09
Best
I listen to many of the podcasts that 1517 produces and Kelsi’s is my favorite. Her gracious manner and thoughtful questions make it easy to listen ye...
★★★★★
caligirlHis 2023/11/22
Thankyou
Loved the sinner saint episode I’ve not started reading bondage of the Will Yet but I’m definitely inspired by this conversation Just wow! Spoke direc...
★★★★★
Drew from the Mitten State 2023/09/01
Love the show
This is such a valuable podcast with great guests and topics. The only critique I have is that it is often hard to hear due to the volume level. Eve...
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