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Episode 156: Paul Howard — A united Ireland. But whose flag, whose anthem, whose rules?
2026/10/23
E156 | Paul Howard: A united Ireland. But whose flag, whose anthem, whose rules?
Would you vote for a united Ireland if it meant changing the flag? The national anthem? The Constitution?
And should we settle those questions before asking people to vote?
On Episode 156 of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL welcome Paul Howard, creator of Ross O’Carroll-Kelly, to discuss his new satirical novel, A Nation Once Again.
Its premise: a fictional government department has been preparing for Irish unity since 1958. Turning the aspiration into an actual plan proves rather more complicated.
Paul describes himself as agnostic on reunification and open to persuasion. He explains why the argument needs to move beyond green versus orange, why compromise may leave everyone slightly dissatisfied, and why a premature border poll could set the project back for a generation.
Along the way:
• The solicitor’s letter over a 50-word rugby report that helped inspire Ross O’Carroll-Kelly’s lawyer.
• Why comedy can open up conversations that serious political debate struggles to reach.
• Flags, anthems, policing and the practicalities of bringing two systems together.
• Why Ireland’s Call might offer an unlikely lesson in compromise.
• Paul’s prediction of a border poll within ten years—and Mark’s reasons for disagreeing.
The Decisis case review
Peter and Mark also discuss three Irish decisions from Decisis.ie:
• Merck Serono S.A. v The Controller of Intellectual Property: an unsuccessful appeal concerning a supplementary protection certificate for a medicine.
• Minister for Justice v Curtin: surrender to the UK, errors in a warrant and objections concerning prison conditions.
• Kerr v Moran: joint tenancy, intended ownership arrangements and the refusal to dismiss a solicitors’ negligence claim as statute-barred.
The case-law section is sponsored by Charltons Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, whose services include family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
Paul’s recommendations:
• Death in the City of Light — David King.
• I, Fatty — Jerry Stahl.
• Intermission — his favourite comfort film, accompanied by a wonderful story about meeting Colm Meaney.
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E155 – THE END OF THE BILLABLE HOUR? Larry Fenelon on AI, legal jobs and reinventing the law firm
2026/10/16
THE BILLABLE HOUR IS UNDER ATTACK. AND AI COULD CHANGE THE LEGAL PROFESSION FOREVER.
What happens when one of Ireland's most innovative solicitors decides to throw out the traditional rulebook?
Larry Fenelon SC, founder of Fenecas Law and previously of Leman Solicitors, joins Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL on Episode 155 of The Fifth Court.
He's built a litigation-only firm that doesn't record billable hours, embraces artificial intelligence and believes the Irish legal profession needs to move much faster.
And his numbers are extraordinary.
Five hours of document preparation reduced to five minutes.
Ten employees doing work he believes might otherwise require 20–22 people.
Fixed-fee arrangements instead of the traditional six-minute billing clock.
Larry also reveals:
Why increasing his previous law firm from 25 to 55 people didn't necessarily increase profits.How Leman Solicitors became part of international law firm Ogier.Why AI is forcing lawyers to rethink how they charge clients.Why paper-based court processes are increasingly unsustainable.Why Ireland could become a major international arbitration centre, competing with London, Paris, Vienna and Stockholm.Why he believes Ireland's legal professionals can compete with the best in the world.There's also a remarkable personal story, from working in his family's meat business and studying at the University of Limerick to building, merging and then starting a law firm all over again.
Plus: the Decisis Law Reports case review
Peter and Mark examine three important decisions:
T.O. v HSE — a child's access to weight-loss medication and a challenge to the HSE's refusal to fund treatment.L.M. v N.O.M. — children wrongfully retained in Ireland following a holiday visit, and their return to South Africa under the Hague Convention.The People v C.U. — admissions made by a 17-year-old during Garda questioning and whether those admissions were admissible in evidence.The Decisis case-law review is proudly sponsored by Charltons Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners, George's Street, Dún Laoghaire, specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
Presented by Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL.
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E109 The Fifth Court - retired High Court judge, Bernard Barton RIP
2026/08/11
As the multitude of tributes have shown Bernard was not only a highly respected Judge and member of the Law Library, but was an absolute gentleman, known for his kindness, warmth, and great sense of fun. This we experienced in abundance when he joined us as a guest on the The Fifth Court podcast.
In what was one of our most popular episodes, Bernard’s charm and infectious enthusiasm for law and life shone through.
Accordingly , we are re-releasing this episode in tribute to this wonderful man.
Mark Tottenham Peter Leonard
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E154 The Fifth Court: John Freeman BL — Central Bank Power, Personal Accountability and Fair Procedures
2026/07/23
Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by John Freeman BL, author of The Central Bank Acts: A Commentary.
John explains the modern role of the Central Bank of Ireland and how financial regulation has changed since the banking crisis. The discussion examines the increased focus on individual accountability within financial institutions, including how responsibility is assigned to particular executives and decision-makers.
They also consider:
The Central Bank’s investigative and enforcement powersPersonal responsibility for regulatory failuresFines, suspensions and exclusion from the financial services industryThe effect of the Zalewski judgment on regulatory hearingsFair procedures when the regulator investigates and adjudicatesAppeals to the Irish Financial Services Appeals Tribunal and the High CourtThe independence of the Central BankThe relationship between the Central Bank of Ireland and the European Central BankWhy the Central Bank Acts have become so difficult to navigateJohn also discusses the work involved in writing a major legal commentary, the growing use of Irish within the legal profession and his interest in French revolutionary legal history.
Before the interview, Peter and Mark review three recent decisions from Decisis.ie:
An unlawful repossession of a family home resulting in an award of €20,000 in damagesPlanning permission quashed because inadequate provision had been made for children’s play facilitiesA constitutional challenge concerning temporary release and a mandatory minimum sentence for serious drug offencesThe Decisis.ie case-law section is sponsored by Charltons Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners of George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
Presented by Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL.
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E153 The Fifth Court - Who Really Built Ireland's Legal System? Daire Hogan on Judges Who Shaped Irish History
2026/07/14
For more than a century, Ireland's judges shaped the country's politics, business, land ownership and legal system.
But who were they?
On Episode 153 of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by legal historian Daire Hogan, former McCann FitzGerald partner, former President of the Irish Legal History Society and author of the remarkable new book The Judges of Ireland 1866–1921.
It's a fascinating conversation about Victorian Ireland, judicial power, Westminster politics, the Four Courts, Home Rule, the birth of the modern legal system and some extraordinary judicial personalities whose influence is still felt today.
Along the way they discuss:
• why 1877 completely changed Irish courts
• the astonishing political influence behind judicial appointments
• why some judges nearly sailed on the Titanic
• how Irish judges were viewed in London
• the origins of today's High Court and Court of Appeal
• what legal history tells us about modern Ireland
Before Daire Hogan joins Peter and Mark, Mark reviews three important recent decisions from Decisis, kindly brought to listeners with the support of Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
The featured cases include:
Adoption without parental consentSecurity for costsLegal professional privilege and shareholder rights
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E152 The Fifth Court - Jimmy Wales, Wikipedia founder, on trust, AI and why the internet still needs rules
2026/07/01
Episode 152 of The Fifth Court features a very special guest: Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia
Interviewed by Mark Tottenham BL at Dalkey Book Festival.
This is not just a tech-founder interview. It is a fascinating conversation about law, trust, neutrality, rules, evidence, platform responsibility, AI hallucinations, volunteer communities, public knowledge and why Wikipedia has survived while much of the internet has become angrier, noisier and less trusted.
Jimmy explains why Wikipedia’s neutral point of view matters, why “assume good faith” is more practical than naïve, how Wikipedia deals with vandalism, why AI can invent very convincing false sources, why WikiNews did not work, and why Wikipedia avoided the advertising model that turned so much of the web into clickbait.
Jimmy's cultural recommendation, a book by the late author Ray Bradbury, 'Something Wicked this Way Comes'.
Before the interview, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL discuss three recent cases from the Decisis Casebook, sponsored by Charltons Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners: the Supreme Court on “no foal, no fee” and conditional fee arrangements; a drink-driving blood-specimen chain-of-custody case; and a murder conviction quashed because of an unbalanced judicial charge to the jury.
00:00 – Intro: Episode 152
01:47 – Decisis Casebook sponsor: Charltons Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners
02:00 – “No foal, no fee” and conditional fee arrangements
03:29 – Drink-driving conviction and blood-specimen chain of custody
04:34 – Murder conviction quashed over judicial charge to jury
06:03 – Jimmy Wales interview begins
06:43 – Why Wikipedia was hard to compete with
07:58 – Neutral point of view and controversial topics
09:49 – How Wikipedia’s rules developed
11:40 – Volunteer communities and optimism about people
15:12 – Why a wiki works for an encyclopedia, but maybe not for poetry
17:03 – Why Wikipedia is vandal-proof
18:30 – Jimmy Wales: “Queen Elizabeth II, not Henry VIII”
20:07 – Arbitration committees and Wikipedia governance
21:24 – Wikipedia in 150–300 languages
23:31 – What workplaces can learn from volunteers
29:06 – Audrey Tang, Taiwan and digital consensus
32:10 – “Assume good faith”
34:25 – ChatGPT, fake ISBNs and made-up legal cases
37:17 – Law enforcement and good faith
39:03 – Why WikiNews did not really work
44:12 – Constitutional change and institutional deadlock
49:37 – Platforms, publishers and free speech
50:25 – Why Wikipedia did not become an ad machine
53:04 – Jimmy Wales’ book recommendation: Something Wicked This Way Comes
54:33 – Outro
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E151 The Fifth Court - Peter Charleton Part 2: what judges really worry about
2026/06/23
In Part 2 of our extended interview with retired Supreme Court judge Mr Justice Peter Charleton, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL continue a remarkable conversation about life at the Bar, life on the Bench, and life after the Supreme Court.
Peter Charleton speaks about the reality of appearing in high-profile criminal cases, the discipline of addressing juries, why a good advocate must be able to hold attention, and why, in court, “your job is basically to stay on the horse”.
He discusses the emotional weight of criminal work, the dangers of lawyers mistaking themselves for victims, the Morris Tribunal, the call to the High Court, the pressure of judgment writing, and the move from sitting alone in the High Court to deciding cases with colleagues in the Supreme Court.
There is also a fascinating discussion on the length of modern judgments, why digital searches are different from physical searches, how Supreme Court judges deal with disagreement, and whether advocacy still matters in an age of written submissions.
And, in a lovely final turn, Peter Charleton reflects on retirement, family, music, film, War and Peace, Clint Eastwood, and why music, in his view, is a higher form of reasoning than law.
Before the interview, Mark and Peter discuss three recent cases from the Decisis.ie casebook, with thanks to the sponsor of the Decisis casebook discussion, Charltons Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners of George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, who specialise in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
LSRA v O’Brien
A solicitor was prohibited from practising in his own right for 10 years following serious misconduct and repeated non-compliance with undertakings. The High Court stressed that its role in reviewing LSRA determinations is not a rubber-stamping exercise.
LSRA v Salabi
An overseas lawyer seeking to practise in Ireland could not rely on Belgian professional indemnity cover. The court held that the foreign cover did not meet the Irish regulatory requirements.
Foreign Births Register citizenship challenge
A challenge to the requirement that foreign-born children be registered on the Foreign Births Register before acquiring Irish citizenship was rejected, with the court finding no particular injustice in the requirement.
CHAPTERS
00:00 Introduction and Part 2 preview
00:48 Decisis casebook discussion, sponsored by Charltons Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners
03:49 Peter Charleton interview resumes
04:31 High-profile criminal cases and staying on the horse
05:15 Addressing juries and holding attention
07:13 Worrying about cases and professional regret
08:08 Criminal work, vicarious trauma and perspective
09:03 The Morris Tribunal and Donegal
10:37 The call to the High Court
11:43 Why judging was not easier than being a barrister
13:48 How to write a judgment
15:46 Are modern judgments too long?
18:07 Digital searches and privacy
19:52 Moving from the High Court to the Supreme Court
20:22 Keeping an open mind on appeal
21:30 Overturning colleagues and why it is not personal
23:45 Irish courts, US courts and the politics of judging
26:26 Is great advocacy dead?
28:38 Retirement from the Supreme Court
30:41 Life after the Bench
31:22 Music, law and philosophy
32:47 Film and book recommendations
34:45 Closing thanks
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E150 The Fifth Court - Mr Justice Peter Charleton: law, crime, music and the nature of evil
2026/06/18
The Fifth Court marks Episode 150 with Part 1 of a wide-ranging conversation with recently retired Supreme Court judge, Peter Charleton.
To mark Episode 150 of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by Mr Justice Peter Charleton, recently retired from the Supreme Court.
In Part 1 of this extended interview, he reflects on republicanism and nationalism, growing up near Seán Lemass and Theodore Kingsmill Moore, music, Trinity, the King’s Inns, devilling with Peter Sutherland, early years at the Bar, criminal law, defending accused persons, and the deeper questions of crime, morality and human nature.
It is a thoughtful, personal and sometimes unexpectedly funny conversation with one of Ireland’s best-known jurists.
Before the interview, Mark and Peter discuss three recent cases from the Decisis.ie casebook.
The Decisis.ie case-law section is sponsored by Charlton Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners of Dún Laoghaire.
Case 1: The High Court quashed a District Court judge’s refusal to convict in speed-limit cases, holding that judges must apply the law rather than substitute their own views on whether limits are fair.
Case 2: In DPP v O’Hara, the Court of Appeal upheld a murder and burglary conviction, rejecting challenges to DNA and search-warrant evidence.
Case 3: In a Hague Convention child-abduction case, the court refused to return a child to New Zealand because of concerns about the mother’s depression and risk of relapse.
This is Part 1 of a two-part interview. Part II will be posted next week.
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E149 The Fifth Court - Bridget Hourican on Frank Callanan’s Joycean masterpiece
2026/06/09
Bloomsday Special: The secret political life of James Joyce — and Frank Callanan’s final masterpiece
Was James Joyce really apolitical?
For decades, many scholars claimed Ireland's greatest writer stood apart from politics.
Frank Callanan disagreed.
Before his untimely death, the renowned barrister, historian and Parnell scholar spent 25 years researching what became his final work: James Joyce: A Political Life.
In this special Bloomsday episode of The Fifth Court, Bridget Hourican joins Peter Leonard and Mark Tottenham to discuss Frank's extraordinary final book, his lifelong fascination with Joyce, Parnell, Irish nationalism, exile, censorship and the political forces that shaped modern Ireland.
The conversation also becomes a moving tribute to Frank himself — one of the most beloved and intellectually gifted members of the Law Library.
Among the topics discussed:
Why Frank spent 25 years researching JoyceThe political meaning hidden inside Ulysses and DublinersJoyce's obsession with ParnellWhy Dublin publishers burned copies of DublinersJoyce, censorship and Irish respectabilityWhy Joyce left Ireland and never truly returnedFrank Callanan's remarkable legal and academic careerThe challenge of completing a 900-page masterpiece after his death
For anyone interested in law, literature, Irish history or Bloomsday, this is a fascinating conversation.
Book recommendation:
James Joyce: A Political Life by Frank Callanan
Decisis casebook section sponsored by Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners.
1. The runaway truck case
Duggan v Logan (Mr Justice Oisín Quinn)
A driver was seriously injured when a truck rolled out of a filling station and into traffic with nobody behind the wheel after the driver failed to apply the handbrake.
Why it matters:
The High Court awarded damages of approximately €128,000 and provides a reminder that leaving a vehicle unsecured can create liability even when the driver is physically absent from the vehicle.
2. Turkish worker wins immigration rights challenge
Ozek v Minister for Justice (Mr Justice Simons)
A Turkish migrant worker successfully challenged the Minister's refusal to properly backdate an immigration permission.
Why it matters:
The Court found that EU-derived worker protections had not been correctly applied, reinforcing the importance of protecting migrant workers' rights under European law.
3. Mother and Baby Institutions Redress Scheme
Kiernan (otherwise John Duncan Morris) v Minister for Children (Mr Justice Owens)
A claimant challenged a decision that certain institutions were not covered by the Mother and Baby Institutions Payment Scheme.
Why it matters:
The Court held that the legislation should be interpreted more broadly and that the applicant was entitled to seek redress under the scheme. The decision may affect how eligibility is assessed in future claims.
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E148 The Fifth Court - Peter Shanley SC -Barristers Direct, legal access & barristers as entrepreneurs
2026/05/18
Episode 148, The Fifth Court
Peter Shanley SC on Barristers Direct, legal access and barristers becoming entrepreneurs
Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by Peter Shanley SC, founder of Barristers Direct.
Peter explains how changes under the Legal Services Regulation Act opened the door to direct access to barristers in non-contentious matters, why Barristers Direct was created, and how the service works for individuals, companies, in-house counsel and solicitors.
He also talks family legal dynasty, rugby, the late Peter Shanley, direct access, AI note-taking, probate, employment law, defamation, and why solicitors may actually benefit from the service.
The Decisis.ie case-law section, sponsored by Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners of George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, covers:
A suspended trade union member allowed to contest an Executive Council election
A Hague Convention child-return case involving Ireland and Poland
Citizenship refusals based on historic criminal convictions
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E147 The Fifth Court - John O’Donnell SC on Law, Literature and Life
2026/05/08
ON this episode of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by John O’Donnell SC — one of the Bar’s leading advocates… and one of Ireland’s most quietly brilliant writers. This is a conversation that moves from the Four Courts to the writing desk — and back again.
We step into a different courtroom entirely — the imagination.
John O’Donnell SC discusses:
Winning the Francis McManus Short Story AwardWriting Mr. Who — a story inspired by a real criminal caseThe discipline of writing daily at 6:30amWhy short stories thrive in IrelandAnd his upcoming novel Second SkinThis is law, but not as you expect it.
We begin, as always, with the Decisis casebook section, sponsored by Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, covering:
1. Teaching Council v CD
A school principal steals up to €100,000… and is NOT struck off. Why? Gambling addiction, remorse, and the court’s willingness to give a second chance.
2. Pepper Finance Corporation v Ward
A default judgment overturned… after SEVEN years. Solicitor misconduct, delay, and “special circumstances” collide.
3. O’Callaghan v O’Callaghan
A family hotel empire tears itself apart. Misrepresentation vs arbitration — and why the court said: “Off you go… to arbitration.”
Chapters00:00 – Intro
02:00 – Decisis Sponsor: Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners
02:15 – Case 1: Teacher theft & second chances
05:30 – Case 2: Default judgment after 7 years
08:00 – Case 3: Family hotel war & arbitration
10:30 – John O’Donnell SC interview begins
18:00 – From barrister to poet
25:00 – Writing discipline: 6:30am starts
32:00 – Mr. Who: crime, imagination, and narrative
40:00 – Law as inspiration for fiction
50:00 – Poetry reading
57:00 – Fastnet Film Festival & courtroom dramas
01:02:00 – Close
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E146 The Fifth Court - Your Reputation on Trial — And Why the Rules Are Changing - John Kerr
2026/04/17
Your Reputation on Trial — And Why the Rules Are Changing
This is not just another legal interview. This is a story about growing up under armed protection, about a father who became the last Law Lord in the UK, and about a legal system that is about to change in a very big way.
John Kerr — barrister, defamation specialist, and colleague — joins us to talk about:
What it was like living through the Troubles with security at the front gateWhy his father became the “Great Dissenter” in the UK Supreme CourtThe truth about defamation cases — and why juries may be scrappedAnd what happens when your reputation becomes your livelihood
Plus:
Three fascinating Decisis cases including dead-person defamation, missing expert witnesses, and multi-million euro stud fees. Decisis is brought to you thanks to Charltons Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners.
defamation law Ireland, jury trials Ireland, Brian Kerr judge, UK Supreme Court law lords, Irish barristers, Paul Tweed defamation, legal podcast Ireland, Fifth Court podcast, Irish courts cases, Decisis cases Ireland, John Kerr barrister, freedom of expression law
TIMELINE
00:00 Intro + Decisis sponsor mention
02:00 Defamation after death — can you sue?
05:15 Lost expert witness — trial goes ahead anyway
08:30 Coolmore stud fees — big money, no excuses
12:00 John Kerr — defamation specialist
14:00 Growing up in Northern Ireland during the Troubles
17:00 Armed guards, relocation, and real risk
20:00 The career of Lord Kerr — last Law Lord
25:00 The “Great Dissenter” — why minority judgments matter
30:00 From solicitor to barrister — taking the leap
34:00 Defamation reform — are juries finished?
40:00 Big awards, big problems — reality vs headlines
47:00 International defamation and celebrity cases
50:00 Book & film recommendations
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E145 The Fifth Court - Verona Murphy - From leaving home at 14 to Ceann Comhairle, Dáil Éireann
2026/04/08
The "referee" of Irish politics: Verona Murphy on power, pressure and running the Dáil
What actually happens when you’re handed the whistle in Irish politics?
On Episode 145 of The Fifth Court, hosts Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL travel to Leinster House to sit down with Verona Murphy, Ceann Comhairle — the referee of the Dáil.
This is not a standard political career story.
From leaving home at 14, school at 15…to a period of homelessness… to driving trucks across Europe with ABBA blasting…to running a haulage company…to qualifying in law… to becoming Ceann Comhairle.
Inside this conversation:
What the Ceann Comhairle actually does (it’s far, far bigger than you think)Why the job is effectively 24/7How legislation really moves (or doesn’t) inside the DáilThe reality of managing conflict, egos and political theatreWhy many TDs don’t understand the system they operate inThe truth about independence in Irish politics
Plus:
Brexit through the eyes of the haulage industryWhy respect (or lack of it) is crippling key sectorsAnd the surprising power behind “standing orders”
Decisis Case Round-Up (with thanks to our sponsor)
This episode includes analysis of three recent decisions, brought to you by Charltons Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, Georges Street, Dún Laoghaire — specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
Cases discussed:
1. Student A v Trinity College Dublin
Can you stay anonymous if accused of academic misconduct?
The High Court says: almost never.
2. Hegarty & Others v Revenue Commissioners
Revenue loses — because “tax avoidance” isn’t enough if there’s a real commercial reason.
3. G v G (Child Abduction Case)
A 22-month-old taken from the US to Ireland — and the court orders the child back.
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Because law — like politics — only makes sense when someone explains it properly.
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E144 The Fifth Court - Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court | Parnell, leadership, and the law
2026/03/24
Episode 144 – Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court | Parnell, leadership, and the law
In this very special episode of The Fifth Court, hosts Peter Leonard BL and Mark Tottenham BL are joined by Mr Justice Brian Cregan, Judge of the High Court, to discuss his book Parnell: A Novel and the legal, political, and historical legacy of Charles Stewart Parnell.
Drawing on extensive original research, Mr Justice Cregan explores Parnell’s emergence as a political leader, his use of parliamentary obstruction, and the legal dramas that shaped his career — including the Special Commission and the O’Shea divorce proceedings.
The discussion also addresses a striking historical assessment: whether Parnell’s political impact surpassed that of Daniel O’Connell, and what this means for how Irish history is understood.
The episode includes detailed analysis of landmark legal moments, including the cross-examination of Richard Pigott — widely regarded as one of the most significant in legal history.
Decisis Case Notes With thanks to Charlton Solicitors & Collaborative Practitioners, sponsors of the Decisis law reports segment.
This week’s cases include:
Pizzarchi v Kepak Cork Unlimited Company – renewal of a lapsed personal injury summons refused due to deliberate inactionDPP v Murray – Court of Appeal upholds cumulative sentence for harassment of legal professionals and victimEastwood v Richards – presumption of revocation does not arise where will remained in solicitor’s custodyKey Timestamps00:05:54 – Introduction to Mr Justice Brian Cregan00:23:05 – Parliamentary obstruction and the mechanics of power00:31:42 – The Pigott cross-examination and the Special Commission00:37:20 – The O’Shea divorce proceedings and political consequences00:42:56 – Parnell and O’Connell compared Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
E143 The Fifth Court - Máirín de Búrca, once more in front of the courts
2026/03/18
Máirín De Búrca is in front of the courts again | The Fifth Court
There are some names that belong in the footnotes of Irish history. Máirín De Búrca belongs in the headlines.
In this very special episode of The Fifth Court, Peter Leonard and Mark Tottenham visit Máirín at home to talk about a life that took her from Chicago and Newbridge to housing protests, anti-apartheid activism, women’s liberation, prison, and one of the most important constitutional cases of the 1970s.
Yes, Máirín De Búrca is in front of the courts again.
This time she faces The Fifth Court where she tells the story behind the famous De Búrca and Anderson case, the challenge that exposed the absurdity of all-male, property-owning juries and helped change Irish law for good.
This is a warm, funny, vivid and deeply important conversation about activism, law, protest, courage and a very different Ireland.
Also in this episode, in the Decisis case round-up, Mark and Peter discuss three striking recent decisions:
Kelly v An Bord Pleanála, where approval for a bus stop outside a home was quashed over privacy and safety concerns;
Q v O, an interim access case involving a non-parent in a same-sex family despite the absence of a professional report on the child’s wishes;
and In Re Tusker Property Holdings, where reckless and fraudulent trading led to personal liability, disqualification and costs orders.
The Decisis section is proudly sponsored by Charlton Solicitors and Collaborative Practitioners of George’s Street, Dún Laoghaire, specialists in family law, civil litigation, property, wills and probate.
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