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2026/09/27
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Official podcast of the Evoke Endurance collective. Evoke Endurance is an institution that disseminates information on training for mountain sports. Here we share our collection of interviews, discussions, and educational materials for the benefit of the global mountain community.
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#138 Ask Evoke: Athlete-Submitted Questions For September 2026
2026/09/27
Join Coaches Leif Godberson and Nikki Larochelle for our September installment of Ask Evoke, where they answer training questions submitted by members of the Evoke Endurance community.
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:21 Carb loading and cramping
00:05:48 Training without a heart-rate monitor
00:13:45 Minimum volume to maintain uphill running fitness
00:20:01 Tracking downhill running capacity
00:28:47 Training for an objective with no specific date
00:34:51 Importance of a long training day weekly
00:41:23 Structuring maintenance training between objectives
00:45:45 Training prescriptions for double thresholds
00:55:27 Training a one-arm pull-up
#137 Ask Evoke: Athlete-Submitted Questions For August 2026
2026/08/29
Join Coaches Andy Reed and Kylee Toth for our August installment of Ask Evoke, where they answer training questions submitted by members of the Evoke Endurance community.
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:53 Role of plyometrics training in ultra-running
00:05:18 Improving down-hill resilience
00:12:22 Scheduling around an inter-block break from training
00:15:14 Evoke methodology relevant to cycling
00:22:25 Aerobic deficiency and adding weight
00:24:55 Chronic Training Load’s relationship to volume
00:28:25 Favorite workouts
00:29:40 Pre-race capstone runs
00:34:20 Back-to-back long runs
00:36:57 Utilizing zone 1 for fast athletes
00:38:30 An elite’s staple workouts for 100 mile runs
00:43:38 Improving at running hills
00:46:36 Beginner tips for improving aerobic capacity
00:48:05 Day-to-day heart rate & RPE variation
00:53:12 LT1 speed vs LT2 speed
00:53:55 Training muscular endurance on Zwift
00:54:48 Mitochondrial function
00:55:39 Thoughts on stretching
00:59:45 Muscular endurance benefits for flats
01:01:10 Rucking in zone 2
01:02:02 Choosing specific races
01:03:57 Thoughts on agility
01:05:15 ME training and tapering
01:08:07 Recent Tour de France outcomes
01:12:31 Tempo vs. threshold training for ultras
01:16:19 Strength training for marathons
01:22:18 Outro and thanks
#136 Jam McManus: Climbing Lhotse Without Supplemental Oxygen
2026/08/13
Join coach Larry Goldie for a conversation with Jam McManus. Jam is a high-altitude mountaineer who recently summited Lhotse without the use of supplemental oxygen, making him the first Irish person to do so. He has now set his sights on becoming the first Irish person to climb Mount Everest without supplemental oxygen, in 2027.
Earth’s Edge Guides: https://earths-edge.com
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:03:25 Jam’s early experiences with climbing
00:10:50 First experiences climbing in the Himalayas
00:12:36 First no oxygen 8000 meter peak attempts
00:15:14 Lessons learned from climbing without supplemental oxygen
00:24:34 How being above 8000 meters without oxygen feels
00:34:23 History of altitude exposure quickens later acclimatizations
00:41:22 Attempting Lhoste instead of Makalu in 2026
00:44:35 Jam’s training and preparation for Lhotse
00:52:20 Mental training
00:58:34 Risk calculations while guiding
01:03:15 Learning from failure
01:06:11 Big picture lessons from climbing and training
01:11:43 Outro and thanks
#135 Ask Evoke: Athlete-Submitted Questions For July 2026
2026/07/31
Join Coaches Maya Seckinger and Seth Keena for our July installment of Ask Evoke, where they answer training questions submitted by members of the Evoke Endurance community.
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:34 Tracking and qualifying fatigue
00:09:44 Improving aerobic base with limited training time
00:11:30 Managing down-hill volume
00:14:46 Does zone 1 training create a positive training stimulus
00:18:19 Training down-hills for a specific race
00:19:27 Aging well
00:20:05 Intensity runs during a base phase
00:22:42 Training zone 2 & intensity in the same day
00:25:03 Best trail running home towns
00:27:01 Using stair climber machines for aerobic base work
00:28:50 Usefulness of nose breathing vs. MAF
00:32:19 VO2 max vs. lactate threshold for predicting performance above 8k meters
00:36:06 Increasing durability and fatigue resistance for a 59 year old
00:39:00 Finding down-hill race pace & tactics
00:42:39 Key to aerobic base training
00:43:48 Speed during aerobic base work
00:44:57 Managing training load for both mountain biking and running
00:47:25 Physical preparation for a professional guide exam
00:52:55 Using TrainingPeaks training stress metrics
00:56:41 Outro and thanks
#134 Strength Training For The Endurance Athlete
2026/07/04
Join Coaches Scott Johnston and Vince Paikowski for a deep dive on strength training for the endurance athlete, with an emphasis on muscular endurance training. See episode guide for topics covered.
Learn more about muscular endurance:
https://evokeendurance.com/resources/muscular-endurance-all-you-need-to-know/
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:42 Vince’s discovery of the importance of strength training
00:03:23 Evoke’s applied methodology
00:05:09 Discovery of the effectiveness of muscular endurance
00:11:25 Science is downstream of anecdotal evidence
00:18:22 Indicators of poor muscular endurance
00:22:23 Definition of terms: strength; power; muscular endurance
00:26:08 Applications of muscular endurance
00:29:11 How strong is strong enough?
00:42:26 Specificity and muscular recruitment
00:50:40 Muscular endurance is not the end state, specificity is
00:59:40 Muscle fiber types and the physiological ‘dimmer switch’
01:13:47 What is missing from an individual athlete’s training?
01:19:57 Training tools and use-cases
01:24:27 Muscular endurance training methods
01:36:06 Perceptive cues common to muscular endurance stimulus
01:45:45 Conflating elite athletes' recent training with event success
01:58:03 Final Thoughts
#133 Paul Booth: New Science On Carbohydrate Utilization In Ultra Running
2026/05/29
Join Coach Scott Johnston for a conversation with Paul Booth, who works alongside Scott as a Performance Nutritionist on the teams of 2025 UTMB 1st-place finishers Tom Evans and Ruth Croft. In this discussion, they explore how metabolic processes are measured in the lab, and look at the latest research on carbohydrate fueling and fat utilization in ultra runners. See episode guide for topics covered.
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:27 Can metabolism be measured through calorimetry?
00:04:31 Are VO2 Max tests capable of measuring metabolic equilibrium?
00:10:57 Applying lab derived energy usage to variable terrain
00:16:58 Recent study of carbohydrate utilization in ultra running
00:31:34 Does carbohydrate introduction shift substrate utilization?
00:33:22 Is high carbohydrate intake inhibiting fat utilization?
00:42:43 Fat utilization vs. carbs during races
00:46:01 Does high carbohydrate intake cause carbohydrate dependence?
00:53:32 Pitfalls of reliance on widely available metabolic testing machines
01:03:27 Tips for feeding between and during runs
01:16:16 Final thoughts
#132 Ask Evoke: Athlete-Submitted Questions For April 2026
2026/04/29
Join Coaches Maya Seckinger and Nikki Larochelle for our April installment of Ask Evoke, where they answer training questions submitted by members of the Evoke Endurance community.
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:05:58 Time in zone 2 vs. even more time in Z1/low-Z2
00:10:27 Training while raising children
00:13:38 Optimal heart rate zone range for a long hike
00:15:56 Training during transition periods between seasonal events
00:19:48 Is there an upper limit for high-volume days?
00:23:28 General advice for pacing a first 50k race
00:30:57 General signs of fatigue vs. fitness improvements
00:34:30 Integrating aerobic base work as a tri-athlete
00:36:34 How attentive to heart rate spikes does a beginner athlete need to be?
00:40:50 Recovering from over training and overcoming aerobic deficiency
00:46:50 Outro and thanks
#131 Climbing Mt. Everest & Lhotse, Step-By-Step
2026/04/14
Join coach Leif Whittaker and his guest, Garrett Madison, as they take you through the step-by-step process of climbing Mt. Everest, and Lhotse. As the founder of Madison Mountaineering, Garrett has guided hundreds of clients on the world's biggest peaks, and is one of the most experienced high-altitude guides on the planet.
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Learn More about Garrett and Madison Mountaineering:
https://www.instagram.com/madisonmtng/
https://madisonmountaineering.com/
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:55 Garrett’s nineteenth expedition to Everest
00:06:46 Selecting a guide service/climber’s personal resume
00:20:38 Training and preparation
00:28:51 Arrival to Katmandu and acclimatization trek to basecamp
00:35:15 Altitude simulators for preacclimatization/staying healthy
00:49:52 Basecamp and technical review
00:54:32 First Rotation: Through the Khumbu ice fall to Camp III
01:05:44 Summit rotation
01:15:22 Final summit push
01:23:15 Summit attempt, and descent
01:31:47 Camp IV to Lhotse summit push and back to Camp II
01:41:41 Back to Basecamp
01:42:14 Final thoughts
#130 Ask Evoke: Athlete-Submitted Questions For February 2026
2026/02/26
Join Coaches John Frieh and Leif Godberson for our February installment of Ask Evoke, where they answer training questions submitted by members of the Evoke Endurance community.
To submit your own training questions, or if you would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, visit our Reddit forum: https://www.reddit.com/r/evokeendurance/, or contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:02:13 Possible limitations to heart rate drift tests
00:05:31 Should a drift test be performed when fatigued or fresh?
00:07:17 Best protocol for determining ventilatory thresholds?
00:12:15 Optimal weekly aerobic base training duration?
00:16:17 Altering Evoke’s stock mountaineering plan for a busy schedule
00:20:13 How do other sports fit into a yearly endurance training plan?
00:26:34 Blending martial arts with endurance training?
00:29:43 Training for fire fighting and endurance sports?
00:35:21 Balancing ultra marathons and mountaineering objectives
00:39:58 Training for fast and light alpinism
00:53:19 Modulating stair climber training in Evoke’s stock plans
00:56:16 Is heart rate important for recovery workouts?
00:57:11 Outro and thanks
#129 Ask Evoke: Athlete-Submitted Questions For January 2026
2026/01/28
Join Coaches Leif Godberson and Seth Keena for our January installment of Ask Evoke, where they answer training questions submitted by members of the Evoke Endurance community.
To submit your own training questions, or if would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:39 Moving from WI4 to WI5
00:07:49 Differences in training between uphill touring and ice climbing
00:12:30 Thoughts on stretching
00:16:31 Improving movement efficiency below aerobic threshold
00:21:47 Downhill vs Uphill legs for skiing
00:25:09 Training for FKTs with 4th and 5th class terrain
00:39:00 Training downhill running for ultras
00:45:51 Outro and thanks
#128 Racing Forward with Parkinson’s: Coach Larry Goldie Talks with Dr. Sue Goldie
2025/12/13
Join coach Larry Goldie for a conversation with Dr. Sue Goldie. Sue is a triathlete, Harvard professor, and public health researcher. In 2021, Sue was diagnosed with Parkinson’s disease. Since her diagnosis, she has continued to compete in Ironman triathlons while maintaining her academic and research career and raising public awareness for those living with Parkinson’s.
To submit your own training questions, or if would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, contact us here.
Learn more about Sue in the links below:
Sue is working on education initiatives with the Davis Phinney Foundation - https://davisphinneyfoundation.org/
New York Times Article About Sue: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2025/10/13/us/sue-goldie-parkinsons.html?unlocked_article_code=1.2U8.Fsoa.l7nSqV4lLyrR&smid=url-share
Sue’s Bio: https://hsph.harvard.edu/profile/sue-goldie/
GHELI (Global Health Education Learning Incubator): https://gheli.harvard.edu/
CHDS (Center for health decision science): https://chds.hsph.harvard.edu/
NPR Interview with John Branch: https://www.npr.org/2025/10/18/nx-s1-5575741/for-four-years-she-hid-her-parkinsons-diagnosis-then-she-let-a-reporter-follow-her-journey
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:04:02 Sue’s early experiences in endurance sports
00:19:57 Sue’s Parkinson’s diagnosis
00:24:44 Modifying training after Parkinson’s diagnosis
00:29:14 Learning to train with Parkinson’s
00:36:08 Training for injury prevention
00:39:08 Tracking medication efficacy while training
00:43:02 Sue’s unique challenges during race transitions
00:48:17 Tips for fitting training into a busy lifestyle
00:54:44 Sue’s partnership with her coach
01:01:34 Experiences racing and embracing the ‘pain cave’
01:10:44 Facing danger and the life lesson it gives
01:11:44 Broader understanding of Parkinson’s and Sue’s future projects
01:19:05 What’s next for Sue
#127 Ask Evoke: Athlete-Submitted Questions For October 2025
2025/11/03
Join Coaches Maya Seckinger and Mark Postle for our October installment of Ask Evoke, where they answer training questions submitted by members of the Evoke Endurance community.
To submit your own training questions, or if would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:06 Key differences between weighted hikes and gym-based muscular endurance
00:06:21 Training for an 85k running race while cycling primarily
00:11:30 Increase ability to run uphill late in a run
00:15:08 Stair master or stairwell for vertical gain accumulation
00:19:08 Most efficient way to build aerobic base
00:25:06 Methods for adding weekend volume for a time-constrained athlete
00:30:54 When does flat speed work outweigh uphill tempo?
00:36:08 Acute muscle stiffness and soreness after stairs
00:39:12 Muscular endurance substitutions for zone 4?
00:45:18 Recommended threshold work and muscular endurance for VK race
00:49:05 Is considerable DOMS normal after a muscular endurance session?
00:53:11 Do heart rate zones matter for strength training?
00:54:49 Book recommendations
00:59:51 Stretching recommendations
01:01:13 Best ways to learn about training for sport?
01:03:16 Pros, benefits, and cons of VO2 max intervals
01:08:34 Upper body muscular endurance training for cross-country skiing?
01:11:25 Final Thoughts
#126 Seb Pelletti & Ethan Berman: Shooting The Moon, First Ascent Of Ultar Sar's South East Pillar
2025/10/26
Join Evoke Coach Seth Keena for an interview with Seb Pelletti, and Ethan Berman to discuss their recent first ascent of Shooting The Moon, on the South East Pillar of Ultar Sar, located in the Karakoram range of the Himalaya, in Pakistan. See Episode Guide for topics covered.
To submit your own training questions, or if would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:01:01 Hunza Region Overview
00:04:23 History of the South East Pillar
00:09:04 2024 South Pillar attempt
00:26:36 Background of the team
00:36:09 Ethan's first formalized training
00:42:47 Seb's training and preparation
00:48:07 Unique physical demands of South East Pillar
01:01:15 Specific aspects of mental and physical training
01:09:07 The team's muscular endurance training
01:22:11 Improvement aspects for the future
01:34:12 The naming of Shoot The Moon
01:35:56 Final Thoughts
#125 Joseph Mestrallet: Data-Driven Race Pacing Strategies
2025/10/16
Join Coach Scott Johnston for a conversation with Joseph Mestrallet, who works alongside Scott on the team of 2025 UTMB 1st-place finishers Tom Evans and Ruth Croft as a data analyst for running performance metrics. In this discussion, they explore the pacing strategies and analytical tools used for Tom and Ruth, and how Joseph’s experience both as a runner and a mathematician provide a unique skill set to approach the pacing challenges of ultra-distance races. See episode guide for topics covered.
Joseph’s company, Enduraw Performance Science: https://enduraw-data.com/
To submit your own training questions, or if would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:49 Joseph’s background
00:03:58 About Enduraw
00:08:57 Emergence of data-driven performance
00:14:34 Applying data analysis
00:22:45 “Digital Twin” data modeling
00:30:19 Ruth Croft’s 2024 UTMB pacing
00:38:03 Using grade-adjusted pace
00:49:34 Tools for amateur and elite runners alike
01:01:42 Data + training builds confidence
01:09:19 Final thoughts
#124 Paul Booth: Performance Nutrition And Fueling Strategies For UTMB
2025/10/08
Join Coach Scott Johnston for a conversation with Paul Booth, who works alongside Scott as a Performance Nutritionist on the teams of 2025 UTMB 1st-place finishers Tom Evans and Ruth Croft. In this discussion, they explore the fueling strategies and testing used for Tom and Ruth, examine how nutrition influenced their UTMB performances, and share tips and strategies for amateur and elite runners alike. See episode guide for topics covered.
To submit your own training questions, or if would like to learn more about the Evoke Endurance community, contact us here.
Episode Guide
00:00:00 Introduction
00:00:39 Paul’s experience and educational background
00:04:57 Testing for and optimizing fueling strategies
00:14:57 Causes of GI upset
00:17:11 Effects of dehydration
00:19:29 Strategies for training your gut
00:20:99 Fueling for running vs. cycling
00:28:38 Fat for fueling and fat adaptation
00:38:48 Glycogen depletion stimulus strategies
00:45:05 Pre-race gut training
00:46:59 Nutrition should support training load
00:49:54 Paul’s thoughts on Kilian Jornet’s fueling strategies
00:52:02 Work capacity of world-class athletes
00:59:40 Respiratory Exchange Rate explained
01:01:58 Carbon-13 isotope testing for measuring carbohydrate metabolism
01:10:44 The gamble of fueling and training approaches
01:16:20 Model for the future of trail running
01:18:09 Final thoughts
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Rich Jortberg 2025/09/25
Thanks Scott for great podcast
You do a great job of clearly explaining how and why you coach the way you do. While some of your thoughts may be controversial, I think anybody who...
Granitemountain 2025/06/03
Good Concept, But Execution Falls Short
I really wanted to like this podcast — the show notes suggest valuable insights for endurance athletes. But the delivery is very disorganized, with lo...
Sarita7981 2025/05/19
Good show, bad language
As an aspiring uphill athlete I find the show helpful. But please watch the language. The S word is used too often without an “E” warning.
F_U_C_K__Y_O_U6969 2025/05/14
Fantastic!
Been following this company since they first dropped their training for the new alpinism book. Fantastic group of coaches and great podcast.
Nolan Fourteen 2024/01/18
Been waiting for Nikolai on here
Thanks!
ircommando 2023/03/03
Awesome content
I have been a weekend warrior most of my life and getting some direction on how to improve my capacity for adventure, as well as making sure they cont...
elsenderoduroNM 2022/11/28
Excellent!
This is a seamless continuation of the the excellent, educational, and free content that Scott provided at UA.
Thanks for not retiring yet!
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