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When 12-Step recovery meets the contemplative tradition, something profoundly practical emerges. Jim McElroy has spent decades at that intersection, sharing how Centering Prayer and the Welcoming Prayer offer those in recovery a new relationship to pain, not an escape from it. In this conversation, through vulnerable storytelling and the wisdom of Thomas Keating, Jim explores healing as integration rather than elimination, and how both practices bridge the language of 12-Step powerlessness with the contemplative language of consent. Featured Resources: 12 Practice for Daily Life: The Welcoming Prayer - Twelve Steps, Thomas Keating: https://youtu.be/i7VcDwgTyas?is=ga1OmV6AkbfCejnpWelcoming Prayer resources: https://cp12stepoutreach.org/welcoming-prayer/12StepOutreach Centering Prayer resources: https://cp12stepoutreach.org/To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentStream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcasts, Amazon and Spotify!

In this episode, we are joined by Heather Ruce, a spiritual director and somatic practitioner, to explore how healing truly happens in the body. Heather shares how understanding the nervous system and integrating somatic practices deepen rather than compete with Centering Prayer. Together, we explore what it means to include our whole self in the divine therapy, how the body holds unintegrated material waiting to be processed, and why practices like orienting to our senses and opening to pleasure are essential companions to our contemplative practice. To connect with Heather, check out: Her website: heatherruce.comHer Substack: https://substack.com/@heatherruceHer Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/heatherruce/ To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsent  Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcasts, Amazon and Spotify!

We're back after a short break, and we're now at the mid-season mark of season four. In this episode, we step back from guest conversations to reflect on what we've been learning and the themes that have emerged so far. We explore what it means to bring our pain into the light, reflecting on suffering as a kind of fracture and separation, and unpacking the paradox that we are already whole while also needing to do the patient work of dismantling the false self. And at the heart of it all, we consider why we are always returning: to the sacred word, to our wholeness, to each other, and to God. To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsent/Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsent/Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/coutreachStream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcasts, Amazon and Spotify!

This episode weaves together three healing modalities: 12-step recovery, psychotherapy, and Centering Prayer, through the wisdom and lived experience of Howard B. Howard shares what it truly means to accept our basic core of goodness as our true self, and why that acceptance becomes the foundation from which we can look at our shadow and false self. Together, we explore how this radical acceptance, grounded in the belief that we are loved unconditionally, transforms not only how we see ourselves but how we show up in the world.  To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsent/Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsent/Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/coutreachStream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Amazon and Spotify!

Welcome back to Opening Minds, Opening Hearts. In this episode, we are joined by Lawrence H, who was introduced to Centering Prayer while serving time at Folsom State Prison in 2009 and has since dedicated his life to sharing the practice with others. In a conversation full of honesty, hard-won wisdom and real hope, Lawrence shares what it truly means to bring our trauma into God's presence and allow it to be transformed. Together, we also explore the dark night of the soul and how Father Thomas Keating understood it not as something to be feared but as a profound and hidden work of divine therapy that carries us toward deeper freedom. More about Lawrence’s prison ministry: Prison Contemplative Fellowship: https://youtube.com/@pcf_praestolari?si=viiL99d4tJDxq5eyCatholic Prison Ministries Coalition to view the documentary Holding Still: https://www.catholicprisonministries.org/holding-stillTo learn more about the mission of Contemplative Outreach’s Prison Outreach Service Team (COPOST), visit: https://www.contemplativeoutreach.org/prison-outreach-homepage/ To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsent/Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsent/Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/coutreach Season 4 of Opening Minds, Opening Hearts was made possible in part by a grant from the Trust for the Meditation Process, a charitable foundation encouraging meditation, mindfulness, and contemplative prayer. We are extremely grateful for their support [of TMP] and would be grateful for any additional support that you, as a listener, might offer. Your donation helps Contemplative Outreach [us] to freely offer the wisdom of the contemplative tradition and Centering Prayer to all who are interested. If you are a grateful listener and would like to support this podcast, go to: https://www.contemplativeoutreach.org/opening-minds-opening-hearts-podcast-donation/ to make a donation of any amount. This season of Opening Minds, Opening Hearts is produced by Rachael Sanya

Welcome back, everyone! We are so glad you are joining us. In this episode, we are joined by the Reverend Nhien Vuong, contemplative teacher, ordained minister, founder of the Evolving Enneagram, and author of The Enneagram of the Soul, for a deeply personal and illuminating exploration of the Enneagram as a sacred companion to Centering Prayer on the journey of divine therapy. Together, we explore what it truly means to move from a life shaped by the question 'what is wrong with me?' to the lived and felt knowing that we are already whole, and the profound and practical ways the Enneagram and Centering Prayer work together as companions on the same journey toward wholeness and freedom.  To connect with Nhien, check out: Her Evolving Enneagram Community: https://www.evolvingenneagram.com/Her YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@evolvingenneagramHer Enneagram of the Soul Book Journey Training & Certification Program: https://evolvingenneagram.com/enneagram-of-the-soul-facilitator-trainingHer Contemplative Practices & the Enneagram 12-week cohorts: https://evolvingenneagram.com/contemplative-enneagram-communityHer (New!) Mighty Networks Contemplative Community: http://bit.ly/472KcnCTo connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsent/Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsent/Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/coutreachStream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Amazon, and Spotify!

Welcome back to Opening Minds, Opening Hearts. In this episode, we are joined by two dear friends and beloved members of the Contemplative Outreach family, Pamela Begeman and Matt Scrimgeour, for a warm and honest dinner table conversation about Centering Prayer as divine therapy. Drawing on decades of lived experience with the practice, our guests share how Centering Prayer has been the foundation of their own healing journeys, and what it truly means to be restored to our fundamental core of goodness. To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsent/Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsent/Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/coutreachStream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Amazon and Spotify!

We are so glad you are joining us for what promises to be a rich and deeply personal Season 4 of the Opening Minds Opening Hearts podcast. We’ll be exploring the theme of Divine Therapy: Healing the Emotional Wounds of a Lifetime, inspired by Father Thomas Keating's teaching that the purpose of divine therapy is to bring unconscious motivations to awareness and heal the wounds of a lifetime. Our guests this season come from a wide range of disciplines and traditions, and what they share in common is a life transformed by Centering Prayer. Through their stories, we hope you can find yourself somewhere on the journey, too. To learn more about Father Thomas Keating’s Spiritual Journey Series//Models of the Human Condition, visit https://www.contemplativeoutreach.org/the-spiritual-journey-series/  To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsent/Like us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsent/Check out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/coutreachSeason 4 of Opening Minds, Opening Hearts was made possible in part by a grant from the Trust for the Meditation Process, a charitable foundation encouraging meditation, mindfulness, and contemplative prayer. If you are a grateful listener and would like to support this podcast, go to: https://www.contemplativeoutreach.org/opening-minds-opening-hearts-podcast-donation/ to make a donation of any amount. This season of Opening Minds, Opening Hearts is produced by Rachael Sanya Music from Bensound.com. License codes: Z5MRZR8RFEARKTF1 and Z8ATTZIZZVFUOXNC Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Spotify, Amazon, etc.

As we wrap up Season 3 of the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts podcast, we find ourselves reflecting on a season that has been both challenging and enlightening. We’ve had the privilege of engaging in conversations with guests from a variety of spiritual traditions, each offering profound insights into the nature of Ultimate Reality and non-duality from their spiritual traditions. It has been all about expansion—of our hearts, minds, and understanding. We’ve explored how our contemplative practices open us up to new ways of seeing and being, helping us move beyond the boundaries of dualistic thinking. The idea of Ultimate Reality as a shared experience, something we can only begin to describe through stories, metaphors, and silence, has deeply shaped our reflections. Our guests invited us to consider how connection, kinship, and the experience of God weave through all of life. To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentTo learn more about the founding theological principles of Contemplative Outreach, visit https://www.contemplativeoutreach.org/vision/ Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Amazon and Spotify!

Welcome back, everyone! We’re so glad you’re joining us as we introduce our final guest of the season. It’s hard to believe how quickly this season has flown by, but we’re wrapping things up with a truly special guest in this episode. Sister Mary Margaret Funk is a Benedictine nun who has been deeply involved in interreligious dialogue and contemplative practices for decades. Sister Meg shares her profound insights on the teachings of Father Thomas Keating, her journey through various spiritual traditions, and the importance of understanding our thoughts in relation to God. We also explore the nuances of contemplative prayer, the significance of spiritual senses, and the universal quest for Unitive Consciousness. To find out more:Check out Thoughts Matter and other books in the Matters Series written by Sr. Meg: https://litpress.org/Products/3572/The-Matters-Series?srsltid=AfmBOorbxobhc-pGCMe32NPCP7iuqPM7gXJukR8NqlF05IFqWCFYfbxdCheck out the Monastic Interreligious Dialogue website: https://dimmid.org/Listen to the audio files created by Sister Mary Margaret Funk and Kathleen Cahalan which form the 100-day St. Enda Retreat (click on the dropdown arrow): https://stjosephmonastery.org/retreats/#stendaTo connect further with us:Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentTo learn more about Father Thomas Keating’s guidelines for service and principles visit www.contemplativeoutreach.org/vision. Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Amazon and Spotify!

Welcome to another episode of Opening Minds, Opening Hearts. This time, we are joined by Abdul-Rehman Malik, affectionately known as AR, an award-winning journalist, educator, and cultural organizer whose life story is deeply intertwined with themes of migration, faith, and social justice. As a lecturer at Yale Divinity School and the Yale Jackson School for Global Affairs, AR directs a leadership program focused on social justice and public service. His podcast, "This Being Human," explores the intersections of faith, culture, and social change, inviting meaningful dialogue and action. Through his work, AR embodies the belief that mercy, justice, and compassion are essential in navigating the complexities of our world. Join us as we reflect on the nature of Ultimate Reality, the importance of community practice, and the power of mercy in a fractured world, drawing on AR’s rich experiences across the globe.  To connect with AR:Follow him on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/armalik/Follow him on X (formerly Twitter): https://x.com/armalikFollow him on LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/armalikListen more on his podcast,This Being Human: https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/this-being-human/id1549041471 To connect further with us:Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentTo learn more about Father Thomas Keating’s guidelines for service and principles visit www.contemplativeoutreach.org/vision.  Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Amazon and Spotify!

As we continue this season's theme of expanding the boundaries of our faith tradition by creating space for dialogue with our brothers and sisters deeply rooted in other spiritual traditions, we’re delighted to welcome Dr. Yuria Celidwen. She will guide us in exploring contemplative practices from an Indigenous perspective. Yuria was born to Nahua and Maya indigenous lineages in the cloud forest of the highlands of Chiapas, Mexico. As a scholar, she investigates forms of contemplation and transcendent experiences from the perspective of the ancestral wisdom of Indigenous peoples. She looks into how these forms are embodied in pro-social behavior and refers to this research as the “Ethics of Belonging” to understand the world from consciousness, intention, and actions toward planetary flourishing. Her recently published book is titled Flourishing Kin: Indigenous Wisdom for Collective Wellbeing. To connect with Yuria: Follow her on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/yuria.celidwen/Follow her on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yuriacelidwen/Check out her Amazon author page: https://www.amazon.com/author/yuriacelidwenGet your copy of her new book: https://www.amazon.com/Flourishing-Kin-Indigenous-Foundations-Collective/dp/1649632045v To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentOr explore our Threads: https://www.threads.net/@prayerofconsentTo learn more about Father Thomas Keating’s guidelines for service and principles visit www.contemplativeoutreach.org/vision. Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Amazon and Spotify!

We’re back again and excited to be having a conversation with Kaira Jewel Lingo in this episode. Kaira is a Dharma teacher and mindfulness practitioner with a lifelong interest in spirituality and social justice. She works in Engaged Buddhism, which was developed by one of her teachers, Thich Nhat Hanh, and draws a lot of her experience from her parents' lives of service, in particular, her dad's work with Martin Luther King Jr. She lived as an ordained nun for 15 years in Thich Nhat Hanh's monastic community and is now based in New York with her partner, Fr. Adam Bucko whom you might recognize from season 1 as one of our guests. Our conversation with Kaira touched on the themes of spirituality, interfaith dialogue, and social justice alongside her practice in Engaged Buddhism. To connect with Kaira Jewel: Visit her website: kairajewel.comFollow her on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/kairajewelFollow her on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/kairajewel/Find her on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCfmckIOMHnvVnGn-IBYp_CgGet your copy of her new book: amazon.com/author/kairajewelFor more information on their new spiritual center, check out their Give Butter site: https://givebutter.com/JqUSN5 To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentOr explore our Threads: https://www.threads.net/@prayerofconsentTo learn more about Father Thomas Keating’s guidelines for service and principles visit www.contemplativeoutreach.org/vision. Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Amazon and Spotify!

As we take a moment to reflect halfway through the season, we're struck by the rich dialogues we've been having. Our guests have shared such profound insights, and it's been truly transformative. We’re delighted you can join us as we explore the many ways these conversations have reshaped and deepened our understanding. What's been particularly special is how accessible our guests have been—spiritual leaders who are deeply respected yet share their wisdom with such warmth and openness. We also took some time to reflect on how most of these wisdom practitioners were influenced by Thomas Keating, the significance of Centering Prayer, and the importance of being open to different spiritual traditions. Our conversation highlights the beauty of silence as a universal language and the incredible journey of understanding through not knowing. To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentOr explore our Threads: https://www.threads.net/@prayerofconsentTo learn more about Father Thomas Keating’s guidelines for service and principles visit www.contemplativeoutreach.org/vision. Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Amazon and Spotify!

These conversations with our guests this season have been a profound privilege and truly humbling experience. Together, Colleen and Mark have embraced the role of students, exploring contemplative practice and meditation from diverse perspectives, and our guest in this episode is offering us some profound insights into the wisdom of the mystics within the Christian perspective. We are honored to ‘sit at the feet’ of Dr James Finley, a student of Thomas Merton and also a clinical psychologist. Jim teaches how connecting to our divine indwelling can transcend fear and shame, and awaken us to our true self. He is a faculty member at the Center of Action and Contemplation. Jim has authored numerous books, including Merton's Palace of Nowhere, The Contemplative Heart, and Christian Meditation. He also hosts the Center for Action and Contemplation's podcast, Turning to the Mystics. Join us in exploring the way contemplative practices, particularly within the Christian mystical tradition, opens us up to a unitive experience of God's presence in all aspects of life, transforming both suffering and the ordinary into expressions of extraordinary grace. Find out more about Dr. James Finley: On the CAC website: https://cac.org/about/our-teachers/james-finley/The Turning to the Mystics podcast: https://cac.org/podcast/turning-to-the-mystics/ To connect further with us: Visit our website: www.contemplativeoutreach.orgFind us on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/prayerofconsentLike us on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/prayerofconsentCheck out our YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@prayerofconsentOr explore our Threads: https://www.threads.net/@prayerofconsentTo learn more about Father Thomas Keating’s guidelines for service and principles visit www.contemplativeoutreach.org/vision.  Stream and Download the Opening Minds, Opening Hearts Podcast NOW for FREE on Apple Podcast, Google, Amazon and Spotify!