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91 episodes
Language
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Katherine SigbladExplicit
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Date created
2023/01/16
Latest episode
2026/05/05
Average duration
67 min.
Release period
7 days
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Modern motherhood is rife with stereotypes, tropes, and narratives that have overcomplicated what was once biologically normal and intuitive. Moms Off The Record explores how culture, systems, and modern lifestyles shape the decisions we make as women and mothers and what may have been lost in the process. Inspired by ancestral wisdom while rooted in modern reality, this podcast is for those who want to think critically about the foundations we’re laying for ourselves and our children. Here, we ask the tough and often uncomfortable questions in pursuit of nuance, discernment, and most importantly, the truth. Episodes air every Tuesday.
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#91: This is See You Later! Where I'm Going and What I'm Doing
2026/05/05
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I have been very busy life-ing, particularly with two extremely active toddlers, and therefore my priorities have majorly shifted. I may return to this podcast once we're all settled into our new home and routine in Sweden in the fall, but I'm not going to commit to any definitive timeline or frequency.
In this episode, I discuss one of the major inspirations of the decision to take a step back, Michaeleen Doucleff's newest book Dopamine Kids, along with my desire to place more time and attention on fostering in-person relationships with my community right here.
I talk about which high-value activities I'd like to replace with some low-value activities I became accustomed to and what life will probably look like for at least the next few months.
While my goal is to be online less, particularly on instagram, I don't take for granted the meaningful connections I've made thanks to social media.
Best ways to stay in touch:
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How Erik and I met thanks to Tinder in 2020: https://katherine-sigblad.medium.com/how-my-husband-and-i-met-got-engaged-married-and-honeymooned-during-the-pandemic-a0cb848ee4cf
and if you're in Southwest Florida or the Stockholm metro area, email me so we can arrange a mom+kid meetup IRL!
I'd love to hear from you whether you took an extended social media break or a permanent one. What was it like? Drop a comment in the episode in Spotify or email me.
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#90: Porn Has No Place in The Home with Isabella Malbin
2026/04/28
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Isabella Malbin is a former liberal feminist who helps women unpack the ideologies, industries, and medical technologies that seek to control women’s bodies through the Whose Body Is It podcast and instant access classes.
Welcoming Isabella Malbin of @whosebodyisit back after her initial episode three years ago, we discuss:
why there is no such thing as "ethical" pornwhy it isn't normal to normalize porn in your marriagewhy porn is inherently harmful even if you think all adults are consentinghow we can rewrite the script as parents when having conversations with our children about pornHow porn subliminally infiltrates other aspects of our culture and society like body hair and body modificationBoundaries and values around porn consumption in a marriageYou can take the masterclass Remove Porn From Your Relationship + Bedroom. Even if porn is not an issue in your marriage, like it is not for me, it's great to have clear and confident talking points especially when people claim "sex work is work" and "ethical porn is okay."
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#89: Forced to Balance Major Childhood Surgeries with Holistic Values featuring Dr. Johanna Hartley
2026/04/21
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Just over three years after airing our episode with chiropractor Dr. Madalyn Turner, I sit down with her twin sister Dr. Johanna Hartley, who is also a chiropractor, to learn about how she has been pulled between the highly medicalized hospital system and her family's holistic values after discovering her second son, born at home, had a congenital defect called Hypospadius in which the urethra is not where it is supposed to be.
It turns out, he had the most severe version.
To give you an idea of where Dr. Johanna falls on the crunchy scale, she is a non-vaccinating chiropractor who prefers to use conventional, OTC medication as a last resort. In her story, it becomes apparent how humbling and earth shattering supporting your infant through three major surgeries is and how it rocks your world and forces you to exercise discernment with prioritizing your holistic values.
In this episode, you'll hear how Dr. Johanna and her husband ultimately find the right surgeons out-of-state for their son's procedure and how they knew the first opinion they received from a local "expert" was subpar. Dr. Johanna also walks us through her first two birth experiences and how this initiation into motherhood laid the foundation for how she shows up for her family and her worldview.
If you are grappling with making complex decisions, especially given your holistic values, in the face of medical necessity, then this episode is for you.
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#88: Demystifying the Ms. Rachel Cult and the Autism - Screen Time Connection
2026/04/14
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Warning: If you are a member of the Ms. Rachel cult, this episode will be a tough listen. Please don't say I didn't warn you!
Andreina Rosales is also a Millennial toddler mom, and she is working towards her PhD. It wasn't until her own son was born at just 6 months gestation that her world was rocked when the doctor explained he likely will have autism as a result of being a premie.
From that point, Andreina became obsessed with researching the causes of autism, and we discussed the autism-screen time connection. Yes, there is a type of autism that presents as screen-induced.
We would not do this conversation justice if we skirted around the topic of Ms. Rachel. Ms. Rachel is the archetype of a mainstream Millennial mom's idol, and the sad irony of her show is that children are not actually becoming better communicators despite this being the show's premise. Andreina explains the difference between verbalizing and communicating.
Andreina and I reminisce about the nostalgia of the low-stimulating, cozy classic shows of our early-to-mid 90s childhood and how stark the contrast is with today's over-stimulating, brain-rot slop children's programming.
There is a disturbing new finding that Andreina has recently uncovered in her research, and it's thematic across most modern young children's programming. Be sure to listen until the very end for it.
Please don't be hard on yourself if your kids have been exposed to addictive modern kids' tv. There is such a thing as neuroplasticity, and a screen-tox may be just the trick. Not all hope is lost.
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#87: Kidfluencing, Sharenting, and Family Vloggers with Fortesa Latifi
2026/04/07
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This episode is going to ruffle some feathers especially within the online motherhood realm, however it's one that needs to be shared. I understand the initial reaction some will have of defensiveness, however I appreciate you letting that initial feeling simmer and continuing to listen with an open mind.
It's never too late to change your mind! I did a few years back.
I sit down with journalist Fortesa Latifi who is the author of "Like, Follow, Subscribe: Influencer Kids and the Cost of a Childhood Online". She reveals what her interviews with famous mom influencers, their children and nannies have described about what actually goes on behind the cameras.
We examine:
The ramifications of a child's digital footprint through multiple angles and what the future holds Which current events were going on in 2023 that attributed to the trend of hiding children's faces onlineIs it true that AI can unveil a child's face behind an emoji placed over it?Which type of child content gets the most engagement from family vloggers? It might surprise you.How is being a minor showcased online different from being a minor on a tv show or in a movie?How does the law protect children online?Why do certain demographics tend to fall into the family vlogging world?
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#86: Finding an Aligned Mother's Helper, Nanny, Babysitter or Preschool/Daycare
2026/03/31
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If you are childcare-curious or actively seeking any type of childcare for your babies or toddlers, you need to listen to this solo episode. I leave no stone unturned.
I talk about just about every single variation of childcare from my personal and professional experience both on the receiving and giving end from pre-motherhood and currently as a mom of two toddlers.
In this solo I discuss:
the challenges of full-time outsourcing childcare to grandparentsthe differences between preschool and daycarewhat exactly is a mother's helper and what is her function?why and when might you want a mother's helper vs. a sitter vs. a nanny?why might a stay-at-home mom want or need childcare assistancethe challenges of trying to piecemeal the best care and support when we do not live in a hunter-gatherer societyLooking for a caretaker for your baby or toddler? I've created a guide full of the best questions you can ask your daycare, preschool, nanny, sitter or mother's helper to gauge if they're the right fit.
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#85: Fertility Awareness Method, Oopsie Babies, Birth Control, and Perimenopause with Carly Hartwig
2026/03/24
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Whether your goal is to prevent or plan pregnancy, and better yet you want to avoid non-evidenced based, toxic, and synthetic methods, you NEED to listen to this.
Carly Hartwig (@cleanlivingwithcarly) and I discuss:
Why is the fertility awareness method an evidence-based, effective way of preventing or planning for pregnancy? How does it differ from the rhythm method? What about Natural Family Planning?What's the difference between the Billings, Justisse, and Marquette methods, and why did Carly choose to become certified in Justisse?Why are women accidentally becoming pregnant when using the app Natural Cycles? What about when wearing condoms?Are vasectomies and "non-hormonal" IUDs really harmless?How do we want to introduce FAM to our daughters?Is perimenopause real? What are the symptoms?Is HRT (hormone-replacement therapy) always bad?)
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#84: Legally Proving Vaccine Safety and Conflicts of Interest with Aaron Siri
2026/03/17
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I sat down with Aaron Siri, Managing Partner of the NYC-based law-firm Siri & Glimstad specializing in vaccine injury, RFK Jr.s attorney during his presidential campaign, and the author of Vaccines, Amen the Religion of Vaccines.
We discuss
the conflicts of interest between the nation's leading vaccinologists, vaccine manufacturers, and the United States government.how vaccine manufacturers were able to get away with administering medical products that have never been proven to be safewhat is fundamentally wrong with the clinical trials performed for vaccinesmyths and lies we've been fed about how vaccines are responsible for saving livesthe legal process that occurs when a parent sues for a vaccine injuryFollow Aaron Siri on instagram
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#83: Postpartum Doula Drama, Breastfeeding Tips, Oral Ties, and Low Supply with my Cousin Megan, IBLC and NP
2026/03/10
Today I chat with my second-cousin Megan who is a younger yet ever so wise Millennial toddler mom and Renaissance woman. Our moms are first cousins. Megan has worked as a doula and now runs a doula placement agency in Southern California. She’s also a mom to a three-and-a-half-year-old daughter, an IBCLC, and a Nurse Practitioner.
Have you heard of the company Carrot? Women who are not even adequately trained to be postpartum doulas are able to bypass the necessary time and in-person training it takes in order to become one in order to get their piece of the pie. Why is this problematic? When families hire a postpartum doula, the expectation is that the entire family unit will be cared for including the home. There is an expectation that breastfeeding support will be offered and that the postpartum doula is actually knowledgeable about breastfeeding. Instead, women are able to claim the title of postpartum doula while actually stepping into the misleading role of overnight nanny or newborn care specialist.
During this episode, I also ask Megan for her nuanced opinions on bottle and pacifier usage (it’s not so black-and-white!). We discuss what is really attributing to textbook low supply.
We delve into a breastfeeding technique I had never heard of before called “reverse cycling” and why we think it’s so seldom discussed. It’s typically used as a strategy for moms who must return to work and don’t want to affect their supply or offer formula, so they hold off on nursing all day and then nurse truly on-demand all throughout the night. It does require bedsharing in order to be successful.
I ask her what is the worst breastfeeding advice she’s ever heard as someone who is trained as an IBCLC, a Nurse Practitioner, a former doula and a toddler mom who is still nursing.
Despite having to return to work outside the home (part-time for 12 hour shifts!), Megan is still successfully nursing her 3.5 year old.
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#82: My Two Very Different Toddler Night Weaning Experiences
2026/03/03
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In this solo, I discuss why I chose to nightwean each of my children when I did and how I returned to my "why" when staying committed to nightweaning felt hard in the middle of the night.
I explain which strategies worked vs. which didn't. Why I nightweaned my son at 21 months old vs. my daughter at 17 months old and what it meant for each of their breastfeeding relationships with me.
Each of my children, as I'm sure each of yours, have such different temperaments. There is no one-size-fits-all nightweaning blueprint. A lot of it is a mix of your maternal intuition coupled with some trial and error. There are general guidelines of definitive nos and yes's with the process, but there is no bypassing the hard parts. Like with any other challenging milestone, it must be met head on. This is something I kind of learned the hard way.
I explain when I believe it is developmentally inappropriate vs. appropriate to night wean and when the benefits of nightweaning outweigh the benefits of night nursing. I also talk about how and when your husband can get on board with helping.
For more support with nightweaning, join dozens of other women in the private Moms Off The Record community. We have an active nightweaning thread within the forum with other first-hand accounts and success stories!
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#81: Learning from Women in Hunter-Gatherer Societies with Elena Bridgers
2026/02/24
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Elena Bridgers is a mother of two, science writer and researcher with a focus on maternal health and well-being, examined through the lens of evolutionary mismatch.
Her personal journey of finding motherhood challenging after choosing to have two-under-two and going through extreme sleep deprivation led her to ask why this is so hard. How did our ancestors do this?
While Elena is a big fan of Michaeleen Doucleff, author of "Hunt, Gather, Parent," she points out that Michaeleen's focus is on parenting strategies whereas Elena examines the social context in which our ancestors mothered.
In this episode we discuss, from a hunter-gatherer evolutionary perspective:
interpregnancy intervalsbreastfeeding as birth controlweaning from nursingtandem feedingthe tradwife movement and having very large familiesBedsharing vs. sleep trainingAlloparenting, "free" childcare, and the nuance with daycareUse code MOTR to save 35% off the Mama Baby Biome Method and First Foods Plan.
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#80: A Regulated Nervous System Is Not Always A Calm One with Amanda Texeira
2026/02/17
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Today I'm joined by LCSW Amanda Texeira who is a mom of three boys and a holistic, trauma-informed therapist. to unpack one of the most misunderstood and overused phrases in modern motherhood: nervous system regulation.
Somewhere along the way, “regulated” became synonymous with “calm.”
If you’re not calm all the time? You must be dysregulated!
Amanda debunks this myth.
We talk about the pendulum swing in motherhood content: from hyper-curated, perfectly curated moments to victim-mindset misery. We discuss how algorithm-driven black-and-white parenting advice like never saying the word “no” can actually make moms more dysregulated, ironically.
We explore:
Why calm ≠ regulatedThe difference between congruent responses and suppressionHow to model emotional intelligenceWhy yelling “NO!” when your child runs toward traffic is actually regulatedWhy Amanda doesn't like parenting scriptsThe performative side of “gentle parenting”How algorithm-fed content can manufacture miseryWhen "mental load" rhetoric is helpful vs. harmfulWe close by talking about congruency, repair cycles, environmental regulation myths, and why your reaction often makes sense even when Instagram denies it.
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#79: Why We Want a 3-4 Year Age Gap for Baby #3 IF We Have One
2026/02/10
I have no clue whether Erik and I will have a third baby. We're both leaving the door open for that possibility. What we do know though is we're waiting minimum 3-4 years between baby 3 and our second baby. Probably leaning closer to 4 years.
With two kids just over two years apart, I reflect on what the postpartum period was actually like for me, especially as a mom who parents intentionally, prefers not to take shortcuts or use literal or metaphorical pacifiers, and mothers in alignment with biological norms. Hint: I had to take shortcuts. I needed to give myself a lot of grace.
I examine factors such as my personal capacity, my kids' and my own temperaments, resources, age, energy, and milestones I would prefer for my second baby to reach before we even begin to think about trying for a third IF we eventually decide to have a third.
In this episode, I talk about:
What postpartum really looked like with two kids 26 months apartMy theory for why “two under two” works for some families and not for othersThe physical and emotional toll of back-to-back pregnancies and extended breastfeedingWhat bigger age gaps actually mean for sibling bondsHunter-gatherer family spacing and modern pressures around fertilityEgg quality vs. egg quantity (and why I’m not afraid of pregnancy in my late 30s)If you’re a mom who feels conflicted about wanting to wait or pressured to hurry up, this conversation is for you.
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#78: What Does Sovereignty Really Mean and How to Claim it with Celanie Jones
2026/02/03
I welcome my friend Celanie Jones for an honest, intricate conversation about sovereignty and what it actually means, without the catchy buzzwords, and how it’s often distorted in modern motherhood and within spiritual communities. Celanie is a homeschooling mom of two young children and local Weston A. Price chapter leader.
Celanie shares her rocky but redemptive journey through abuse, trauma, pregnancy termination, postpartum psychosis, and her time inside the Free Birth Society, where the language of sovereignty was used ironically to control rather than to encourage autonomy. We unpack how real sovereignty isn’t about rejecting systems blindly but rather listening to your own body without the outside influence of another leader or expert.
This episode explores:
• What sovereignty actually means on a nervous-system level
• How cult dynamics show up in “crunchy” and spiritual motherhood spaces
• The role of trauma in people-pleasing and submission
• Why changing your mind is a powerful act of sovereignty
• How to tell if you’re truly making your own choices
Please share your feedback within the comments section of Spotify or on instagram. We welcome your respectful discourse!
follow Celanie at @bodilywaysofknowing
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#77: The ByHeart Formula Botulism Outbreak: You Won't Believe What The FDA Found
2026/01/27
I sat down with Caley Jones of Rad Moms Union to unpack what’s really happening behind the scenes of the ByHeart formula manufacturing plant, and why their recent botulism outbreak should raise everyone's eyebrows.
Caley brings a critical, highly-relevant perspective to this conversation. Before becoming a mom, she worked directly in consumer goods, food manufacturing, quality assurance, and factory testing both in the U.S. and overseas. In this conversation, she explains how infant formula manufacturing differs from other food industries, why formula factories are often held to lower standards than organic snack foods, and how companies like ByHeart are able to bypass third-party oversight.
We talk in depth about:
The botulism outbreak and FDA findingsWhy powdered formula is not sterileHow recalls are handled differently for formula vs foodThe dangers of influencer marketing for infant formulaWhy “clean,” “organic,” and “purity” labels don’t tell the full storyWhat parents are not being told about preparation, water boiling, and bacterial riskHow convenience culture (single-serve packets, on-the-go prep) increases dangerWhy infant formula exists in a regulatory gray zone. It's neither a food nor a drug👉 Join the movement on Jan 28th
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Redeemed4ever2221 2026/08/01
Best podcast for moms!
I love kats info on pregnancy and birth and once baby is out I’ll follow the parenting info! I’ve been doing a wild pregnancy and love hearing her in...
Meryss1 2026/02/23
I’m so glad I found this pod!
As a new mum wanting to parent intentionally, so many of the topics that Kat and April (and now just Kat) cover in the episodes really resonate with m...
Pinkgiraffe123 2025/10/01
Love, love!
The ladies behind this podcast are incredible about speaking to topics that are so meaningful to the intentional motherhood journey. Thank you for pou...
K. Osborne 2025/08/26
Love These Moms
These moms give their heart and soul to this podcast and so appreciate them sharing their knowledge, wisdom, and passion of motherhood! In a world fil...
Dingus234! 2025/04/05
Love but…
I love this podcast and the guests that they have on the show. However I do not love the part of the intro that mentions not needing evidence to prove...
Rii-H 2025/03/07
So enjoyable!
I love listening to April & Kat's conversations.. there is so much valuable information in each episode. It feels like I'm listening to a conversation...
Tifffffles 2025/02/24
I absolutely love this show
April and Kat I have listened to all of your episodes and have been following for a long time now. You guys are the absolute best. I greatly appreciat...
DrSweets5 2025/01/08
Crunchi Dad
As a crunchi dad I like hearing there perspective and I usually learn something new every episode. My wife is pro pharma, and pro don't question, so I...
Lms6525 2024/11/02
Love April & Kat!
I love this show because both April and Kat bring such a sense of “human-ness” & immense relatability. I’m always learning along with them. Great gues...
holisticallysandra 2024/11/01
Critical thinkers discussing everything motherhood
Definitely a podcast worth your time! As a health care provider I’m very particular about the kind of information I consume. Especially when it relate...
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